The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
@ bluebird 7 Dec, 2012 – 1:14 pm
“NR I agree. Bruinsma (Mabel Wisse Smit’s boyfriend until his dead) worked with the Hells Angels and they inheritated his drug business after his death. There was always a deep connectivity between the Montreal and the Dutch Hells Angels.
So Smits was at one time connected to the Dutch Hells Angels and is now connected to the Open Society Institute, Soros’ pet project.
I recall, way back, the Scientologists were involved in this, supposedly via EarthLink, one of the early big ISPs and its owner Sky Dayton.
Bluebird there is a Brett Martin company in Ireland is that worth look ?
http://www.brettmartin.com/en-gb/plumbing-and-drainage/sales-enquiry/northern-ireland.aspx
Bluebird
7 Dec, 2012 – 3:29 pm You say “Had anyone already checked that brown baseball cap in the front case of that car versus the brown baseball cap that the “hunter” Mollier was wearing on his portrait photo of ACAFC? It looks quite similar, but my eyes are probably not that good as yours and I am not very good in analysing pictures. Although we had moved the Belfort-Mollier “ad acta” we should look once again:”
I posed this same question many weeks back. They do appear remarkably similar. If Zainab was in the front passenger seat as reported by the builders I did raise the possibility that she got out to allow Mollier to get in for a private chat. This I thought was thrown out by the Mollier cap picture @ http://www.acafc.net/pages/ACAFC__les_instructeurs_de_la_FFCA-336873.html being rejected as “our” SM. Has this changed?
I suppose the cap might have belonged to SAH but he doesn’t strike me as a “cap person” and I doubt it would have fitted Zainab either. Nor is there an obvious explanation why the wearer (whoever it was) would leave the car without it. So it remains a bit of a mystery that like everything else is devoid of official explanation.
Zooming in on the cap on the dashboard in the car photo and the design is remarkably like SMs hunter cap.
That isnt a common colour for baseball caps and the logo on it is unusual too.
Olifant’s DOUBLE LIFE DOUBLE CHARACTERISICS has been going around in my head all night, but no reason came to me as to why.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/french-alps-shootings-why-was-victim-saad-1478542
A load of waffle here but when I was going through the photo gallery there is a picture of two women with flowers one in a blue top and a pink box and flowers and the other one in a print dress and pink bag of flowers ,she has a card showing on her dress I cant see if its hung around her neck or how its held there I thought it looked like writing but my eyesight is poor I wonder if its possible to get a closer look at it?
@ Pink 8 Dec, 2012 – 8:33 am
Re your question about the ID card one of the ladies is wearing around her neck, it’s not your eyesight. It’s too blurred to be readable. Maybe someone has sharpening software that would make it readable.
As for the dirty and clean wheels it does seem that way at least for the rear passenger side wheel. Another small thing is in pics of the SAH house at Claygate, it is odd how many sets of green, brown and blue rubbish bins are on the property. In my town you must pay extra for each additional bin.
“The burial of the body, however, remains to be confirmed……”
Were there reports that confirm SM interment happened? Al Hilli’s body was brought to UK for burial (and presumably seen when coffin would be opened) SM – different decision? What substances could merit further analysis? Any significance that policemen say ‘Who knows, he may have had a double life’? Any more to this comment than meets the eye? Any hints?
“L’inhumation du corps reste en revanche à confirmer…..” “The burial of the body, however, remains to be confirmed……” 17/9/2012 Only family and friends were informed in the absolute discretion. An indispensable requirement not to attract the horde of media that followed the tragedy. To collect and start mourning, simply. The burial of the body, however, remains to be confirmed. The investigation is still ongoing, the family has not been authorized incineration, as was wished. Funeral celebrated on a Sunday evening. The fact is unusual for a story, too, uncommon. {http://www.ledauphine.com/faits-divers/2012/09/16/un-dernier-hommage-rendu-a-sylvain-mollier}
Glad to know that straw and tim v. agreed regarding that baseball cap.
I also agree with olifant’s double character theory.
Now about SM. I was just beginning to think about when i saw those two Belfort companies being liquidated. That could be another reason than the shareholder being dead, and likely is another reason, perhaps bad business strategy. It simply made me think to look at the cap again, but my eyes are not the best.
I checked the ACAFC website and the blog wasnt updated since 2009. That is a long time.
What do we know about Sylvain? Nothing!
We know that he was apparently working for Cezus/Areva, but he wasnt due to a baby pause that is pretty weird given that he must do something for a living plus perhaps paying for the two elder sons.
What do we know about him pre-2012? Nothing!
We do not even know whether or not he lived in Ugine pre 2012.
The boys lived with their mother after their divorce. Perhaps he was living in Belfort from 2006-2009 and returned to Ugine only recently? Maybe in 2010? When did he meet Ms. Schutz? 2010?
Also in Belfort there is a HUGE AREVA company. Would it be unlikely if he lived in Belfort before 2010? We do not know. Also there was/is another Mollier with the first name of his brother still working as a top manager at Areva/Belfort. We do not know whether or not related, but there are still pending questions regarding Mollier because the ACAFC website presents a picture from 2009 but not a current one and we do know nothing about Mollier 2006-2009. Not where he had been, nor where he had worked then.
Its difficult to sort wood from trees so lets see what else has been happening.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/30/french-supercop-arrested-drugs-barons
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9605614/Marseille-police-crime-corruption-and-cover-up-at-the-highest-level.html
Kadhim was also buried at Brookwood.
When the family funerals happened the picture of Zaid was alone along side the coffin being carried, not with others, was this photo cut from Kadhim’s funeral?
@ Pink
8 Dec, 2012 – 8:33 am that Mirror reference you gave @
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/french-alps-shootings-why-was-victim-saad-1478542 is mainly regurgitated old news but there are a few nuggets of interest. First there is bit about SAH being badly beaten up on a return to Iraq in 2010. I knew he’d been there but didn’t know he got beaten up. Maybe I just missed it.
“But a source close to the French detectives said officers are keen to learn why Saad, of Claygate, Surrey, was badly beaten up when he visited his family’s ancestral home in Baghdad in 2010.”
However we all know Iraq is a dangerous place to be especially if you are a person who has missed all the pain, and returns to reclaim property last exercised forty years before. Not enough to organise assassination two years later not only of the culprit, but also his extended family and passer by in far off France I’m thinking. It’s one thing to get beaten up, which might just have been a mugging, and quite another a military style operation to massacre four people. If the cause was there why wasn’t killed there – job done? This has all the makings of another time waster and excuse producer for the French authorities. “Send the papers to Iraq. We’ll be lucky to ever see them again.”
At least the Mirror is prepared to float the idea that it could be an Israeli operation but note how Mossad is distanced by a “monitoring e-mails” role and “by hiring an assassin”. Also the judicious use of “even”.
“This prompted suspicion the Israeli secret service Mossad was monitoring emails from Mr Mollier, who could have sold nuclear secrets. Based on this line of inquiry, Mossad would have hired the motorbike-riding assassin to follow the Frenchman and ambush him. It was even suggested Mr Mollier had arranged a secret rendezvous with Saad.”
The effect of this wording is to create the impression of a far-fetched hypothesis. We do have the “motor-bike-riding assassin” treated as fact though which I had rather thought was until now just a possibility. Does it indicate the French line now?
Finally it confirms that the unfortunate Mollier was shot seven times. This figure has been subject to variation and doubt and five shots have been quoted in the past. Can we now assume seven shots are now confirmed? In which case we can presumably conclude that five of the shots were to the body initially, with a further two to the head if the official view that there were two distinct shooting phases can be relied upon.
From this we can conclude that being the first target, shot multiply plus later invariably fatal head shot, it is inconceivable that he was not an intended target, maybe even primary target. Nor would it be far fetched to envisage that though severely wounded and incapacitated by the first volley, he may have been capable of movement, which may account for what appears to be “drag marks” in the blood stains, prior to the fatal head shots which leave a separate deep stain quite visible on the aerial DM photograph.
Why given this overwhelming evidence would the French investigators refuse to concede that he was indeed a principal target and attempt why this should be?
*Why given this overwhelming evidence would the French investigators refuse to concede that he was indeed a principal target and attempt an explanation why this should be?
Meanwhile we still wait for the papers to pose the detailed and difficult questions of the prosecutors both in France and Britain. Perhaps they are waiting for Leveson to be done and dusted first?
Why would you want this order? But not for Al Hilli? is that the case?
Burial permit / Temporary (provisoire) permit: This is mandatory and is issued by the mayor, wherever is the place of death (or by the prosecutor where an investigation by Police is in progress) Le caveau provisoire : The temporary vault: is used when the body of the deceased person cannot be placed in a final resting place The temporary vault has a sliding plate that allows opening and closing. It should be closed using a padlock. The Commissioner of Police shall grant licenses for temporary storage; for the exhumation of bodies and urns.etc etc
His body will be buried temporarily. Son corps sera inhumé de façon provisoire. {http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/tuerie-de-chevaline-les-obseques-du-cycliste-celebrees-ce-dimanche-16-09-2012-2167137.php} 16.9.12 2pm
His burial is however provisional, Son inhumation est toutefois provisoire, {http://www.20minutes.fr/ledirect/1004491/tuerie-chevaline-obseques-sylvain-mollier-celebrees-dimanche} 16.9.12 6pm
“The burial of the body, however, remains to be confirmed……” “L’inhumation du corps reste en revanche à confirmer…..” 17/9/2012 06.01.
{http://www.ledauphine.com/faits-divers/2012/09/16/un-dernier-hommage-rendu-a-sylvain-mollier}
The burial of the body has not yet been determined, the investigation continues L’inhumation du corps n’a pas encore été fixée, l’enquête se poursuivant. 17.09.2012 at 06:52
{http://www.mannecy.fr/27438-tuerie-de-chevaline-funerailles-de-la-victime-savoyarde.html}
I’m at a loss to see why that instruction for SM and not for the Al-Hilli’s.
Obituary of Roger MOLLIER
The friendly classes 1952-53 was sad to announce the death of his secretary
Roger MOLLIER
According to his will, buried in the strictest privacy classards respectent.Une thought for him.
This was one of last years obituaries for his father -secretive?
Saturday night is meteor night, time for the latest vid:-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20654335
Tim *Why given this overwhelming evidence would the French investigators refuse to concede that he was indeed a principal target and attempt an explanation why this should be?
Hmmm why indeed !
We are not going to get far on SM until we get told something it’s where Saad fits in I can’t make out.
Remember the guy scouting around the caravan park I think that may be why Saad moved camp the dutch guy was quite observant.
Mrs camp owner said nonsense , bad publicity is not good for business she would say that.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9536990/France-shooting-hiker-describes-horror-of-murder-scene.html
“Dutch tourist Eli Draaisma, 64, from Veememdaal, in Holland, also said that a “strange” man of Eastern European appearance was scouring every corner of the Village Camping Europa site in Saint Jorioz, three hours before the al-Hilli’s left for a neighbouring campsite.
“He was dressed all in black, black trousers, black long-sleeved shirt,” he said. “He seemed to be searching the campsite, looking everywhere, but he didn’t look like a tourist. He definitely didn’t look like he belonged, he was not on a holiday.”
and if Saad’s in then we need to figure out why he was in Doussard .
Where did BM start his bike ride from exactly does anyone know ?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/12/french-alps-shooting-photographs-taken
Newly discovered photographs of the Hillis with their daughters Zainab, seven, and Zeena, four, who survived the attack, only add to the mystery. The holiday snaps, which have not been released, were taken by Mr Hilli and show his wife, mother and daughters smiling outside a picture-postcard local house, decked with flowers, close to the nearby village of Doussard, half a mile from where the attack happened.
Detectives believe that minutes after the pictures were taken, the family were killed. Officers believe the snaps go some way to discrediting claims that the 50-year-old had driven his family up the Combe d’Ire for a prearranged “secret” meeting, but admit they are sure of nothing.
“Every lead is still being investigated. But looking at the photos, it’s clear these were people who had no idea what was waiting for them,” said a source close to the inquiry. “It was just before they were killed, but they don’t look in the slightest bit worried. They are all smiling. It’s a normal, happy holiday photograph.”
The investigating judge has refused to release the pictures, deeming them too morbid.
http://www.france-voyage.com/towns/doussard-29799.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doussard
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9536990/France-shooting-hiker-describes-horror-of-murder-scene.html
@ Pink 8 Dec, 2012 – 8:54 pm
“Dutch tourist Eli Draaisma, 64, from Veememdaal, in Holland, also said that a “strange” man of Eastern European appearance was scouring every corner of the Village Camping Europa site in Saint Jorioz, three hours before the al-Hilli’s left for a neighbouring campsite.
“He was dressed all in black, black trousers, black long-sleeved shirt,” he said. “He seemed to be searching the campsite, looking everywhere, but he didn’t look like a tourist. He definitely didn’t look like he belonged, he was not on a holiday.”
This is the supposed “Balkan looking” man? The one the UK Sun did one of its, “Help Us Catch the Balkan Man” and had their star reporter Alex West on the ground to confront him.
But wasn’t there also the “Well Dressed Man” hanging around the campground, that was later said to be an Italian tourist? Or are these two men the same one, but described differently.
NR Excellent Observation..It is good to see that if ones car breaks down in France, the Tow people will gladly replace missing roof racks in the process. The AAA club here in the US should take a lesson from such a civilized society They are years ahead of us! 🙂
I have noted some differences in coloring of vheicle, and even positions that seemed off. But I attributed that to dusting powder giving vehicle worn look and the air shots using diffenet angles, and the newspaper editor making some pictures redder than need for that blood effect.
@pink hmmm That article is strange when it says attack less than a half mile from Doussard.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc191/sys_config/chevalinemap1.gif
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc191/sys_config/chevalenemap2.gif
Ugine would be off to the right near Giez I believe.
And it is odd judge keep pictures for sentimental and aesthetic reasons..not based on sound legal logic since nothing gruesome in picture, and the public interest value in solving would outweigh his own personal non legal feelings.
I think we know why Ikbals and the rest not released, since we are on topic of double dutch.
@NR we can certainly add that to staged.
@Hi XM what is rdEIIYyxhtgPaVWiSn 1562?
is it something in here?
https://www.google.com/search?q=rdEIIYyxhtgPaVWiSn+1562&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
I still have problem with BMs recovery position which by itself is a crucial and time consuming detail, in which he fails to mention a gunshot wound. Someone posted the PD mentioned she did not appear hurt or bloody..I saw that but cant get the article.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vBWWleBSW6A
@ XMhYiVZuMOfuHQq 8 Dec, 2012 – 10:43 pm
“rdEIIYyxhtgPaVWiSn 1562”
Ha! We’ve received our first encrypted message, one that undoubtedly unlocks this mystery when decoded.
GCHQ, can we borrow one of the Cray supercompters for a bit to unscramble it? We promise we won’t look at any of the Really Big State Secrets, like the names of Lordships n Ladyships connected to Jimmy Savile’s procuration business.
Sys
8 Dec, 2012 – 10:49 pm I liked your photomontage but if the highlighted areas are meant to indicate the layby in question I think they have the wrong location (again!). Looking at the photos it is much futher to the right (actually south) and just before the marked junction shown going UP (east)
The distance in the article must be wrong as well, unless it only refers to the distance between both villages, as even at the sign (which is the other side of Chevaline) is still 3 Km from Martinet. So it would seem that Doussard is actually about 3 miles (4.82 km) from the crime scene. At an average of 30 mph (probably optimistic for the route) it would therefore take a minimum of six minutes to get from one to the other with absolutely no hold-ups or delays.
The police say the photos were timed at 3.15. If we allow a minimum of five minutes either end to get three adults and two children in and out of the car, plus the manoeuvres, there is insufficient time available if the killer shots were at 3.30 as suggested. If they were travelling in this time slot, the builders were wildly out on there timing and the BMW would have to had passed WBM on the way up the Combe which has never been suggested. Apologies for repeating this stuff.
re Roger Mollier – sépulture dans la stricte intimité Why do so many French obituaries stipulate? 1) Jean Paul Delarue died age 48, 2012, TV presenter, cancer, story he had converted to Islam, funeral strictly private, ie hide fact of burial in muslim cemetery 2) expense of catering for mass of people by restricting attendance 3) strictly private, therefore by invitation only – to avoid presence of unwanted family relations. Could 3) be more relevant? 1) have read suggestion of this but no evidence seen
re les amicales 1952-3 – the alumni, fraternity, old boys club. Presumably he left lycee age 18/19? So studied to baccalaureate level? in 1952 – probably not very widespread then. Was there a suggestion SM also attended lycee?
@NR
I dont know if there is more than 1 dodgy character this one mentions someone visiting with a smart jacket but no names .
I suspect its the same one.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-alps-murders-annecy-shooting-victims-had-moved-campsite-8124815.html
“A Dutch couple believed the group planned to spend a week at the three-star Village Camping Europa site in St Jorioz but they left after a two-night stay.
The campers said father-of-two Saad al-Hilli acted strangely during that time, leaving his family alone several times each day.
They also noticed an unusual man wearing a smart jacket visiting while the al-Hillis were there.”
Further down its says
Staff at Village Camping Europa described the family as “very quiet, nice people”.
A manager, who refused to give her name, said: “They came to stay with us on Saturday evening and left on Monday.
“That was pre-planned – they were here for just a few days.”
She dismissed suggestions that Mr al-Hilli behaved oddly during his stay, adding: “There was nothing strange. All families leave the campsite at all sorts of times to run errands, go to the shop, organise activities, that sort of thing.”
And she said comments about a mysterious man described as appearing “to come from the Balkans” were “ridiculous”.
She said: “That was an Italian man who was here. He left and got on his plane as was planned.
Then there are some more dutch witnesses who mentioned the tyre pumping and apple picking is that at campsite 2 ?
Yesterday tourists at the campsite where the family were staying spoke of their shock at what happened.
Dutch woman Sandy Rombout, 39, said the Al-Hillis had arrived at the site on the shores of Lake Annecy at around 4pm on Monday in their dark-red BMW, which had a mountain bike on a roof rack.
‘They had a small caravan and pitched a large tent to one side and a second tent at the back,’ she said.
‘They seemed like a normal nice family. The kids were playing outside the caravan and the dad came out and was showing the younger one how to ride her bike.
‘They were very friendly and said hello to people. We saw them sitting in their tent and also having a barbecue outside at night.’
Another Dutch visitor said the family seemed to have problems with their car because every day he saw the father pumping air into the right-hand rear tyre of the BMW.
He said the grandmother had been picking fallen apples and giving them to the children. ‘They were very friendly and the children played with the other kids in the play area. I heard them speaking English outside the caravan but they also spoke what I thought was Arabic inside.’
And then Eli
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9536990/France-shooting-hiker-describes-horror-of-murder-scene.html
“Dutch tourist Eli Draaisma, 64, from Veememdaal, in Holland, also said that a “strange” man of Eastern European appearance was scouring every corner of the Village Camping Europa site in Saint Jorioz, three hours before the al-Hilli’s left for a neighbouring campsite.
“He was dressed all in black, black trousers, black long-sleeved shirt,” he said. “He seemed to be searching the campsite, looking everywhere, but he didn’t look like a tourist. He definitely didn’t look like he belonged, he was not on a holiday.”
@Tim yes ..I usuaually rely on yours but that was was to show how unreliable newspapres are as a source of measurement, much less reporting. That was googles ponting where that combe d ire was..not the killing spot.
@NR I think That ridge on the flatbed that stood out may be this you ll have gauge yourselves..the BMW has a ridge on both sides. which might acount for that, but I did note on two photos the rear has this little fin or extra light that seems to have been worked about with if one goes by the abrasion on one and not another.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc191/sys_config/bmwalhilliplus500alscro-1.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc191/sys_config/Saad-al-Hilli-car__1583445a1.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc191/sys_config/Saad-missingstriationrear.jpg
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I don’t recall if this was ever posted. Thierry et Claire Schutz mentioned:
http://lostdanslesandes.over-blog.com/5-index.html
@ Sys 9 Dec, 2012 – 2:33 am
“@NR I think That ridge on the flatbed that stood out may be this you ll have gauge yourselves..the BMW has a ridge on both sides. which might acount for that, but I did note on two photos the rear has this little fin or extra light that seems to have been worked about with if one goes by the abrasion on one and not another.”
I think that fin on the back roof top is the high brake light. I can’t tell if it’s damaged on the passenger side or if that’s a reflection.
One other thing with the aerial pics. I said a while back the reason we kept seeing the same ones over and over was because the media pays a licensing fee and can use the same pic for 3 months, though that depends upon who they acquired it from.
So one would expect there would be a big selection from a stock photo service like Getty Images, but there is not. Of the aeriel
ones of the BMW at Martinet, there is the much used one of the pass. side and two less used ones of the driver’s side and the front.
I would think the photog in the helicopter must have taken as many pics as possible as they passed by slowly or hovered. There is obviously a time lapse between the 3 pictures. Why not offer at least another 3 or 6 or 9 pics to the stock services, even if they’re similar except for angle? I mean, this is the actual crime scene. There are dozens of pics available of the press and police standing around and cows on the road etc.
It is hardly surprisin, as The Mirror and the DM have reported, that French authorities, having failed to pin the al-Hilli massacre on Tehran,are now asking the Shia government in Baghdad to solve the West’s cockup at the expense of Saddam’s Sunnis, either still loyal or disgruntled ones.
There would obviously be big bucks for the Shias if they could somehow explain why Saad, rather than Sylvain, et. al were the target.
Mollier has to be discounted as a target though shot the most times because getting him makes no sense with any Sunnis, whether pro or anti Saddamites.
They could have beaten up Al-Hilli back in 2010 when he visited Iraq because of his doing so, but the fact that he was not killed then shows that it was just a local incident, not the basis of a most well-organized international conspiracy.
Good to see that at least the tabloids are talking about possible Mossad involvement, given the fallout from the Leveson Inquiry. Perhaps, the press will feel obliged to do some original research on the cockup, starting with the murders of William Hershkovitz, and Nick Mockford, the most forgotten about victims in today’s world mayhem.
looking for more aerial photos, no joy but found these:-
http://www.apimages.com/Search.aspx?st=k&remem=x&entity=&kw=chevaline&intv=None&shgroup=-10&sh=10
On page 1 of 4 searching for al-hilli what is the significance of Bray Court? one photo is of 1-6 Bray Court? There are several photos.
http://www.apimages.com/Search.aspx?st=k&remem=x&entity=&kw=al-hilli&intv=None&shgroup=-10&sh=10
I am about to got out so cant research it now