Not Forgetting the al-Hillis 22278


The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?


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  • Tim V

    James
    19 Dec, 2012 – 4:43 pm Interpol have to be brought in with formal request from participating nation and takes time as far as I am aware. Its not used to augment a domestic investigation but to enable international investigation. I doubt they would fit the “military types” or that thry came from Paris embassy. The Brits have never denied this story which I’m sure they would have it was wrong. Of course it’s feasible they didn’t come from Paris but from Hereford by helicopter. SAS certainly have that ability but it would require exceptional circumstances such as hostage situation with British national as in Tony Blairs intervention in Gold Coast. These thing usually take time and careful planning. This was immediate and impactful within 12 hrs at the outside. This would NEVER happen for “conventional” murder(s). Whoever ordered the specialist BRITISH forces in must have known background. They must have been able to get French co-operation at the highest level. It is the key to what was intended and what went wrong.

  • James

    Tim…

    I agree, if of course we assume that this is actually a new investigation.

    I doubt it is. A new murder(s). But not a new investigation.
    Infact I would be so bold as to point out that your own views would certainly indicate that this “investigation” is not new.

  • Tim V

    Suhayl Saadi
    19 Dec, 2012 – 9:23 pm – I’m only on here as I haven’t got the hours in the day to be on more than one. So if you don’t want to miss our jems you know where to look lol.:-)

  • Tim V

    Not quite sure what u mean by this James
    20 Dec, 2012 – 12:49 am. You say:

    “I agree, if of course we assume that this is actually a new investigation. I doubt it is. A new murder(s). But not a new investigation. Infact I would be so bold as to point out that your own views would certainly indicate that this “investigation” is not new.”

    If you mean do I think the killings at Chevaline were “one off”, isolated acts of purposeless violence – no I don’t. I think, as I am sure many do, that they were intentional, intricately planned assassinations, organised not by individuals in the accepted sense but by organisations or even states, with almost limitless facilities at their disposal as part of a much wider conspiracy and/or process that may have gone on for years or recently initiated.

    I think it possible that criminal/mercenary/professional types might have been utilized to provide distance and deniability, but on balence I think that is LESS likely than highly trained employees of the organisation or state. It was, quite contrary to what Maillaud would have us believe, an exceedingly slick and precise operation, which points to professionals. Nor do I believe as I said at the beginning, sparing the lives of the children or Martin was accidental. It points to a specific brief and specific targets.

    There have been so many “red herrings” by Maillaud (and recent developments around the disappearance of Christian (Stan) Millaud who may or may not be related in some way, are wierd in this regard) that we can only assume, if not directly implicated there has been a concerted effort to disguise and conceal true motives and the identity of the killers.

    In a number of respects the British have been unhelpful to the storyline, but neither have they contributed anything to the public domain. There is a suspicion that the children’s treatment and exclusion from family members, is influenced as much by what they might say as for their protection. I hope and pray that someone is able to look after their interests, at what must be a totally disorientating and distressing time. It is a scandal if family members are being denied access as part of a process of cover-up. The potential for child abuse is not limited to TV personalities. Where are the campaigning newspapers on this one?

  • Tim V

    As to Interpol this:

    INTERPOL is the world’s largest international police organization, with 190  member countries.
    Our role is to enable police around the world to work together to make the world a safer place. Our high-tech infrastructure of technical and operational support helps meet the growing challenges of fighting crime in the 21st century.
    SUPPORTING POLICE WORLDWIDE
    We work to ensure that police around the world have access to the tools and services necessary to do their jobs effectively. We provide targeted training, expert investigative support, relevant data and secure communications channels.
    This combined framework helps police on the ground understand crime trends, analyse information, conduct operations and, ultimately, arrest as many criminals as possible.
    NEUTRALITY
    At INTERPOL, we aim to facilitate international police cooperation even where diplomatic relations do not exist between particular countries. Action is taken within the limits of existing laws in different countries and in the spirit of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Our Constitution prohibits ‘any intervention or activities of a political, military, religious or racial character’.
    VISION AND MISSION
    The vision:
    “Connecting police for a safer world”.
    The mission:
    “Preventing and fighting crime through enhanced international police cooperation”.
    Read the full  vision and mission.
    A GLOBAL PRESENCE
    The General Secretariat is located in Lyon, France, and operates 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. INTERPOL also has seven regional offices across the world and a representative office at the United Nations in New York and at the European Union in Brussels. Each of our 190 member countries maintains a National Central Bureau staffed by its own highly trained law enforcement officials.

  • Tim V

    Law enforcement plays a crucial support role in nuclear safety and security, INTERPOL Chief tells Fukushima ministerial conference

    KORIYAMA CITY, Japan – INTERPOL Secretary General Ronald K. Noble has underlined the essential role of law enforcement in supporting those responsible for nuclear safety and security, in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear accident triggered by an earthquake and tsunami in March 2011.
    Speaking at the Fukushima Ministerial Conference on Nuclear safety (15-17 December), Mr Noble said that a lesson from severe nuclear incidents such as Fukushima or Chernobyl (1986) is that law enforcement must play a crucial role in supporting emergency preparedness and response, capacity building and information sharing.
    With 116 countries, ten international organizations and five associations at the meeting, senior officials including Koichiro Gemba, Japan’s Minister for Foreign Affairs, and Yukiya Amano, Director General, International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), heard how law enforcement also has a clear role to play when it comes to preventing terrorist attacks against nuclear facilities.
    Secretary General Noble said that over the past year alone, thanks to key partners like the IAEA, INTERPOL’s radiological and nuclear terrorism prevention programme had trained close to 170 officers from more than 40 countries on how to handle radiological crime scenes and disaster management.
    In this respect, rapid and secure police communication is one of INTERPOL’s strategic priorities, with its global state-of-the art I-24/7 communication network allowing almost 17 million messages to be exchanged within seconds by police around the world in 2011 alone.
    Mr Noble said that INTERPOL therefore fully supported the IAEA Action Plan on Nuclear Safety and its reliance on emergency preparedness, capacity building and communication and information dissemination, key components within a programme of work to strengthen the global nuclear safety framework.
    Recalling how within 48 hours from the moment the Tohoku earthquake had struck Fukushima an INTERPOL Incident Response Team was ready to be deployed to support disaster victim identification efforts, Mr Noble said: “INTERPOL renews its pledge to assist all countries and their police, to be ready for any future incident that may arise, including the one we hope we’ll never face: the day a single individual crosses borders to detonate a nuclear or radiological device and take as many innocent lives as possible.
    “That’s the day we will know for sure whether we have learned the lessons of history,” warned the Head of INTERPOL.

  • James

    Tim…

    Basically, I don’t know ! There are seemingly many avenues.

    The IAEA was meeting (and prep’ing for that meeting) that week…or just after.

    There was an attempted “break in” reported in LaDauphine just after.

    The French “Nuke Inc” is very leaky.

    That could be one thing.

    But I doubt Al Hilli was the “target”.
    I’m not saying it is possible he was a “bystander” either. Although that is a possibility.

    There’s something about “CEZUS” and AREVA that would draw the attention of others, I would imagine.
    And I doubt “France” would be happy with “themselves” being looked at in that way.

    Was it “Nukes”. Was it TIMET. I don’t know.
    But I think Mollier was “part and parcel” of “things”.

  • Pink

    So all this cloak and dagger stuff about Stan aka Christian whats the deal is he dead or alive ?
    Could these witnesses they are interviewing be behind this shooting
    a meeting in a lonely spot with no cell phone coverage ,spotters out on motorbikes ,avoiding the police etc the mind boggles .
    ……

    For the people who think extraction is possible I will mention something that came up a long time ago someone may remember it and be able to track it down ,there was a photo published of three bodies in a morgue with what I think was a rabbi in attendance at the time it caused some interest on one of these main forums as it was being connected with the shooting of SAH and co and I thought it was decided it was an error by the paper or something like that, I can’t quite remember but in view of the way this twists and turns I think it might be a good idea to revisit that for a second look if it can be found.
    I am pretty sure it was discussed either here, DI ,or MZT and I favour here.

    Doing my best to keep searching when I get a chance I am so busy and not very well so it’s a bit of a mission.

  • straw44berry

    Q 10.57 LINK

    That most of the victims were from two to three times in the face.

    —————————–

    Please can someone tell me how it is possible to shoot a class full of children 2 or 3 times each in the face.

    Line them up against a wall and shoot the first and the remainder turn their backs or duck or faint.
    After the first shot to a child do they remain standing, waiting for shots 2 and 3.

    No reports I have heard have said the shots were in bursts of 2 or 3 at a time.

    Lay them all on the floor and shoot them. As the shooter walks amongst them, one trip and he’s on the floor.

    Have they been taking lessons from the Al-Hilli ‘official’ version that makes not one iota of sense.

    SHOUT IT LOUD : NOT ALLOWED TO SEE THEIR OWN SON OR DAUGHTERS BODIES

    I am not showing disrepect to the families that have lost children or of the teachers but there should be no question of them not being allowed to see them one last time, if they wish.

  • straw44berry

    Pink 8.06 am

    It was me that posted the photo saying something like -‘What the hell is going on here?’

    I wish I knew my words more precisely for a search on here, which I am completely unable to succeed in doing.

    I think it appeared in my google daily photo search for al-hilli.

  • NR

    @ straw44berry 20 Dec, 2012 – 8:22 am
    There are other pages pointing out odd features. Gun pages remark on the 100% kill rate, no injured, accomplished by a supposedly mentally disadvantaged person (autistic/asperbergers) who, while having great mental abilities are often not that physically coordinated. And who from pics, seems not to be strong, yet can carry and handle 3 guns and “hundreds” of rounds of extra ammo, a large weight. (Unless the police meant the extra ammo was in the car, and if they meant that why didn’t they say so.)

    Previously it was said the shooter had two handguns with him and the AR-15 was found later in the trunk of the car, now it’s said he used the AR-15 for “most” of the murders, and I guess one or both handguns for others, and it was a shotgun found in the car.

    There are comments that the name “Sandy Hook” is on a map in the last Batman movie – they had a screen grab of this – don’t know if it’s fake.

    Others comment on a video that has a grieving father laughing before the part of him crying that was used on-air and asking if he should just “read from the card”. Don’t know if that’s fake either. Or was the original a media fake when one crew couldn’t find a real grieving parent (maybe their competitors grabbed all those) so they had somebody play one.

    A few hours after the shootings, I recall one radio or tv network interviewed a school employee who was adamant that Mrs. Lanza had never worked at that school in any capacity in the last two years while she was there. Yet the media kept saying she was a teacher until recently – a few corrected much later. But today US ABC-TV is now saying she volunteered there. It’s like they need some explanation for why that school was targeted.

  • Kenneth Sorensen

    Straw, I remember you posted that photo, and I just ignored it at the time, and of course thought it had nought to do with the killings in Chevaline. But now that I see it again, and with the caption, it strikes me that it must be Israel which out of propaganda purposes has arranged that they are buried in Israel.

    The shooting at this Jewish scholl does actually have something to do with Israel, because in all likelyhood the chap doing the shooting, wouldn’t have comed up with the idea of using his last ammunition in this school, if it weren’t for Israel’s actions. and that this is the case seems to be correbolated by the fact that the cause of the crime, i.e. Israel, take it on itself to bury the victims.

    The fact of course is, that the world of today is generally free of anti-semitism, and when something [that are called that] occurs, it always have connection to some of Israel’s actions – someone who are mad about Israel’s actions in the occupied territories (or further afield), witness the growth of such attacks around 2002-03, whwn Israel cracked down hard on the Intifada2, and may well have killed Arafat with poisoned chocolate – something that a Swiss and a French team independent of each other are investigating.

    —–

    With regards to the specific shootings in Toulouse, I always maintained form the start, that this was a North African immigrant, who resented seing other north African Muslims in Frendh Uniform going to fight in a Muslim counry, Afghanistan – and that he after jhaving shot THEM, knew that the rest of his life was set to be — how shall i put it — lost, so — when faced with life imprisonment (or perhaps he had figured out he was going to meet his destiny in a shoot out) he decided to use his last ammo in this Jewish school.

    Of course it’s a tragedy, but one needs to keep ones head colsdin these situations, and not jump to conclusion that this was part of any rising anti-semitism.

  • Kenneth Sorensen

    In other words, if Israel didn’t exist these Jewish children would have been alive today. I think this is an immensely important thing to get communicated out. I did my (small) bit when the chief editor of one of Denmarks largest dailys also started (ranting) about the shootings and the fate of these Jewish children, which of course was tragic, but needs to be seen in a greater context. First, as I mentioned the shooters specific background in north Africa – and as I put it at the time, this was just a case of French misdoings in its colonies, coming back to haunt them in this way. And as such a rather trivial matter, which was to be expected. Of course the tragedy was that he used his last amunition on these Jewish children. But it is wrong — particularly for an Editor in chief — to blow this aspect out of proportion, and I told her.

    This specific Editor actually published the now infamous Muhammed Cartoons in February 2008 – and the Danish Embasy in Karachi was bombed in June, wich I do not think is a coincidence. As such she has by her actions increased the terror threat against Denmark. It bears witness of a generL LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF mUSLIM SENSITIVITIES, AND WHO CURRENTLY GENERATES THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF HAVOC IN MUSLIM LANDS, and should of course be deplored by all righteous and honest men and women. I’m sure you have types like her in abundance in your countries, but nevertheless they need to be confronted for their lack of knowledge, which simply is not tolerable for an editor in chied (DOH!)

  • bluebird

    Off topic (lanza)

    He suffered from the Williams Beuren syndrome. This is a genetic defect (might result from imbreeding history of royals).

    Looking his face, there are 100% visually signs for williams beuren. His hair. His eyes, the nose, the distance between nose and eyes and particularly his chin. That alone is not sufficient for a diagnoses, however, what we had learnt recently about his behaviour and what his mother had told to friends regarding his behaviour, the diagnosis is 95% williams beuren. This is a genetic defect but does not cause stupidity. They can be brilliant in music or scientists in mathematics but unable to understand social behaviour or even unable to read a book.

    The interesting thing is that the SALK institute is the world wide leader in scientific research of williams beuren patients. There are only about 400 alive.
    The thing is that these patients can give them a clue about how a brain works and what influence genes and biogenetics (e.g. embryon cells) can have on a brain. Even top german neuroscientists are working at the SALK institute on williams beuren disease. This syndrome is a challenge for neuroscientists in the machine-brain science.

    Now that we know that his uncle robert lanza is a professor at the SALK institute and that he is working on neuroscience with embryon cells, wouldnt it be likely that adam had been at the SALK institute for some time as a patient and a model for neuroscience research? We dont know, but it is likely. Where had he been during the time after they took him off school? Nobody had seen him. Even the hairdresser said that he did not come to her since then. Had he been at the SALK institute as a research object?

  • NR

    Before it’s too late, let me offer seasonal greetings. First, a Happy Mayan Doomsday Day to all who booked tickets on the spaceship. Sincere condolences for the rest of us.

    If we survive that, a Very Merry Christmas and Joyeux Noël to those who celebrate that occasion and Happy Winter Holidays to those who do not.

    For those who are a dismayed by the festivities and excesses of the season, though I do not share your sentiments I understand them and will join you in one, and only one, Bah Humbug!

  • bluebird

    Straw
    thanks for this link. incredible! One could not make this up in the weirdest fantasies.

    NR
    Jon made this board available until dec 25th. So it seems that doomsday was delayed to dec 25th, the day when the sun arises again from doom. 🙂

  • NR

    @ straw44berry 20 Dec, 2012 – 11:05 am
    “I initially thought this was a hoax:-”
    http://www.amazon.com/Sandy-Hook-Lingerie-Party-Massacre/dp/B00013K894/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355999675&sr=8-1&keywords=sandy+hook+lingerie

    From: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread909747/pg1
    “The director of that weird movie is Ufologist and paranormal investigator Timothy Green Beckley, who is a frequent guest in Coast to Coast AM: http://www.coasttocoastam.com...”

    “Now, look at this very weird review of that movie, published in a blog specialized in horror movies: aslashabove.com… First of all, notice how the review was published on July 20, 2012, the same day of the massacre in Aurora, Colorado, during the premiere of “The Dark Knight Rises”.”

    “Now read the first paragraph of the review: “So here we have Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre. Let’s say that again, SANDY HOOK LINGERIE PARTY MASSACRE! What do you think of when you see that combination of words? What’s in a title anyway? Does it have a cryptic meaning? Who is Sandy Hook? What on earth am I writing about? Let’s move on…””

    “Do you notice how it looks like the author wants everyone to notice there is something wrong with the title of the movie, and that the title has a cryptic meaning?”

    The movie’s poster has the word “hurricane” in it. IMDB has removed their pages on the movie.

  • bluebird

    NR
    Interesting

    The only code i can read is Sandy Hook LPM

    LPM is local position management, a technology used for drones and soldiers and there is a lot of research on that. You can play SIM games from a central computer screen with real people by using LPM.

    http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2003SPIE.5048..128F

  • James

    http://www.physio-pedia.com/William's_Syndrome

    “This is a wiki created by and for the students in the School of Physical Therapy at Bellarmine University in Louisville KY”.

    •Mild to moderate mental retardation
    •Average IQ = 55-60 but can range from 40-90
    •Mild to moderate learning disabilies

    •Mild growth retardation, short stature

    •Overfriendly personalities
    •Very sociable
    •Empathetic

    I haven’t read much on these shooting, but he was small ?
    But on the other points, he doesn’t fit that syndrome at all.

    Like I say, it’s America…and they’re all crackers there.
    Some States even have “open carry” laws. Blokes wandering around with AK47’s !!! (check out YouTube).

    Sounds a “harsh” thing to say BUT, Yank nutter goes mad in a school and kills 20 or 30 kids. Where’s the News in that ?
    It’s bound to happen.

    As a P.S.
    Recently in The States, I had the misfortune to be “invited” along to a shooting range. It was like a “disco”. Music pumping, lights, rest areas, chill out zones….and “dudes” fully “pumped up”.

    I could not believe what I was seeing.

    Hence I can not work out what the fuss is about. It is bound to happen. And no doubt will again. Give it time.

  • James

    Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre (2000) More at IMDbPro »

    Shooting locations….

    Hoboken, New Jersey, USA.
    Ocean Grove, New Jersey, USA.
    Sandy Hook, New Jersey, USA.

    Again, I haven’t followed these shootings, but wasn’t the shooter originally from Hoboken ? (Or his dad was ?)

    And Sandy Hook is where the shootings took place ?

    Maybe it’s not a good idea to go to Ocean Grove. Some copy cat loon will be hanging around down there no doubt.

  • bluebird

    James

    He fits a 100%. Yes, he was small and looked underage.
    His face fits 100% into williams beuers.
    You did not read everything. Aggressive behaviour is mentioned, autism, too.
    They are a genius in one side of their brain and an idiot on the other side. IQ is tgerefore below average, particulrly because their social IQ is close to zero. However, they can be better in musics or otherwise in mathematics than any of us.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21103708/?i=3&from=/21211940/related

    Quote

    Anxiety, depression and attention problems were the main behavioral problems found in WBS with no gender differences. Significant differences between cohorts were observed in somatic complaints, delinquent behavior, aggressive behavior, and externalizing problems. Some associations between IQ and anxiety items were found. The findings are discussed in terms of behavioral phenotypes, genetic implications and ID.

    My most important question: had he been at the SALK institute since he was pulled out of school? Nobody had seen him since then, not even his hair dresser.
    Was his mother about to send him back to the SALK institute of his uncle Robert?

  • Jon

    Q, I couldn’t get the “Dion Longworth” comments with a Google search either. I suspect the on-site search only searches posts and pages, not comments. However in the admin interface I can see they are there – 59 of them not including this one.

  • bluebird

    NR

    I got this conspiracy from the ATS blog. It seems to be coincidence, though. Give credits to ATS and that poster. The poster of the review on the date of the aurora shooting was from the UK and he was a computer expert. He travelled to Moscow from time to time and he spoke 4 languages fluently, russian, arab and english as well as french.

    Fact number 1 – In the movie “The Dark Knight Rises” there is a STRIKE in a district called SANDY HOOK

     Fact number 2 – In the premiere of the movie “The Dark Knight Rises”, on July 20, 2012, there was a massacre in a theater in Aurora, Colorado. 

    Fact number 3 – In the same day, July 20, 2012, someone posted a review about a horror movie called SANDY HOOK Lingerie Party Massacre in a blog, and the review starts with the following: “So here we have Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre. Let’s say that again, SANDY HOOK LINGERIE PARTY MASSACRE! What do you think of when you see that combination of words? What’s in a title anyway? Does it have a cryptic meaning? Who is Sandy Hook? What on earth am I writing about?” 

    Fact number 4 – In the horror movie in question, SANDY HOOK Lingerie Party Massacre, from the year 2000, the plot says there is a serial killer who strikes AFTER hurricanes. 

    Fact number 5 – There was a very strong hurricane in November 2012, called Hurricane SANDY, that affected the whole Northeast of the USA, including both the town of Sandy Hook, in New Jersey (where the horror movie is supposed to take place) and the village of Sandy Hook, in Newtown, Connecticut. 

    Fact number 6 – Less than one month and a half AFTER Hurricane Sandy, a serial killer enters SANDY HOOK Elementary School, in the village of SANDY HOOK, in Newtown, Connecticut, and kills dozens of little kids in a horrible massacre 

  • Mochyn69

    Interesting comments about williams and SALK, and don’t wish to derail that discussion,but need to actch up.

    Tim has been asking abiut the ’20 military types’.

    We need extreme caution here, as it’s very difficult to track down any reliable source for this information. I have tried to find something credible, but it seems the story emanates from UK newspapers, maybe the DM and the Mirror, quoting Demain TV quoting unspecified locals.

    Apart from the fact I can find nothing on Demain TV about Chevaline, let alone ’20 military types’, as has been mentioned previously I think, Demain TV itself seems to be a French TV channel dedicated to job hunting. Therefore a rather unlikely source.

    Tim, do you have any reliable primary sources for these ’20 military types’?

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