The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
From Mr Lambert in the I.O.M (funny, do they have there banks there !)
“He said the murdered family, made up of the husband and wife, two children and paternal grandmother, were frequent visitors to the campsite and were well known to others there”.
How the hell did he know that !!!!
He goes on….
“Mr Lambert said they had driven back from a cave and waterfall past the murder scene at around the time the shootings would have taken place”.
Ya just have to laugh.
French bloke being shot.
Family sat in car dying.
Younger girl falling about the place.
Ex RAF guy running around shutting down cars and giving first aid…
…and Mr Lambert and co, driving past !!!!! Holy F*** !
James, I am far from sick, just because I hold a different view to your own I get called names, you are the aggressor . Maybe you don’t understand democracy or freedom to express a personal view.
Your desire to pigeon hole is risible…. I see nothing wrong with being a Zionist if that’s what people want to be.
I have refrained from describing what I think of you but I’m certainly not short of material !
Funny how these deprived people in Gaza have …. what did you say ‘pencils banned’ but hey, hey, no shortage of paint & aerosols for their graffiti, or materials for rockets, they have hands which could be used to pick up litter, they have sea water running along their coastline which could be used to wash down the filth.
I am so fed up with the insults so regularly thrown at Israel & mostly it seems out of ignorance…. disagree by all means but flinging insults says a great deal more about you & ruins your case.
Now the Mail on Sunday is reporting that the motorcyclist who Brett Martin saw leaving the scene of the massacre as he was going up the hill towards it is the leading suspect in the crime – who should have been the leading one from the outset.
Will determine if Williams Hershkovitz was also a motorcyclist when I learn more about his prowess with guns, and what gun clubs he may have belonged to in the New Paltz and Hyde Park areas.
The investigation seems to have avoided the most likely suspect until he was conveniently disposed of, and forgotten about – like what happened to Saad al-Hillis’ business neighbor, Nick Mockford.
Radio Manx interview with Mr Lambert…
And he doesn’t say a thing about being at or near the scene of the crime.
He just says that he was at the same “camp site” as Al Hilli.
…and that he’d just been for a swim !
http://manxradio.com/newsread.aspx?id=61400
@NR: It is a good question, do organized crime types do extractions? The family wants him declared dead, but is he?
@NR: It’s only the dyed ones that died.
Thank you, all, for the information on Mr. Lambert. I wonder how many other Mr. Lamberts passed by that way that day. This is what I was looking for a couple of days ago. The road closure obviously didn’t stop people from heading up that way. I don’t think that Sylvain Mollier and the al-Hillis were the only travelers. I do think that the investigators know about others, and are keeping that information quiet as part of the investigation.
@ Bluebird: I suggest further information in your signature. “I don’t eat oranges, especially the Satsuma variety. I do not wear a red wig, nor do I dye my hair red. I do not have expensive taste in women’s clothing.”
@Bluebird: On second thought, forget it.
The official story for the death of Lachlan Cranwick was that he wandered out onto a frozen river in the middle of the night, taking only his work ID card. This was a man who many said never left home without his GPS, flashlight, cellphone and all manner of safety equipment, even in the daylight hours. He posted extensively on his website about safety equipment for various sorts of outings.
He also managed to defy the laws of physics by choosing a shallow body of water off the main river to do so. And as most people familiar with winter know, still, shallow bodies of water are frozen hard in the middle of winter and stay that way until spring. Obviously, the organizers of a winter festival that took place after this mysterious fall through the ice felt it was safe enough for small children. Elsewhere, someone in the area posted a Youtube video showing how they had to drill through the ice with a power ice auger in order to ice-fish. It took several minutes.
So you see, there is no hope for it. If you wander onto thick, frozen ice in the middle of the night, it will be said that yes, this was out of character, but you were chased by wolves (who do not behave this way). It will be said that the wolves waited patiently while you struggled to control the power ice auger, because this is not easy for someone as slight in build as you, who worked at a desk all the time. And never mind that you didn’t own an auger of any kind. It will also be hinted that you were suicidal, even if you were making plans for an international conference or something. And your computer hard drive will by wiped clean of all evidence.
So forget about it. The only hope is if some peeps in the hinterland take an interest in you, for reasons they don’t understand themselves, and call it out as a lie.
Last article. http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/
“You thought we could be decent men in an indecent time. You thought we could lead by example. You thought the rules could be bent but not break…2 you were wrong. The world is cruel. And the only morality in a cruel world is chance. Unbiased. Unprejudiced. Fair.
“The movie concludes by emphasizing that Batman must become the villain, but as usual it never stops to notice that the Joker is actually the hero. But even though his various games only have one innocent casualty, he’s much too crazy to be a viable role model for Batman. His inspired chaos destroys the criminals, but it also terrorizes the population. Thanks to Batman, society doesn’t devolve into a self-interested war of all-against-all, as he apparently expects it to, but that doesn’t mean anyone enjoys the trials.
“Thus Master Wayne is left without solutions. Out of options, it’s no wonder the series ends with his staged suicide.”
@Bluebird: It should be noted that Lachlan Cranswick wrote free software for his specialized scientific field, and shared it with scientists around the world. There was a Lachlan Cranswick Software Fayre at a scientific conference in Grenoble in autumn 2012.
Cranswick also supported certain ecological causes financially, one of which had a leader who was murdered in a parking garage. Supposedly it was over an inheritance.
http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/isle-of-man-news/murder-in-the-alps-manx-couple-caught-up-in-police-investigation-1-4900897
This Malcolm Lambert is intersesting. Stupid me, hadn’t even noticed him before. And reported on the 6th September too. From the Ilse of Man they camped only 50 yards away at the same camp site. The significant bit is that he says he drove back past the murder scene, arriving “about 3.30 pmm so we may assume he came past Martinet around 3.15. This means if the Al Hillis had arrived as we think about 2.50 they would have been there when they passed. They are asked whether they remember seeing them but given the location and likely speed, its not unreasonable to expect them to remember if they were parked up there. Even if we are wrong and the Al Hillis arrive only immediately before the shots at 3.30 it is highly likely that they would have to pass one another, and on such a narrow road you wouldn’t forget that. Yet not asked by the reporters and no reference to whether they did or didn’t in the piece. How about someone here contacting them to pose the question? It might help to pin down what time the Al hillis arrive definitively and any other vehicles in the immediate vicinity. So now we have at least TWO vehicles (forestry vehicle the other) coming down past within minutes of the massacre. Secondary question did they remember passing the two cyclists and where?
Q
13 Jan, 2013 – 7:28 pm re. Lachlan Cranswick
“I remember there was another Australian scientist over there who’d been there for 30 years and when I went there looking for my brother, he sat me down one night.
“He told me, ‘You know Rupert, all the theories that are going around are complete bullshit and that really, your little brother’s in the river’.”
Oh yes how did he know? Anyway there appears an amazing number of strange fatalities connected to nuclear physics. Who just goes out on whim and leaves his house open? There is “Jim’ll Fix it” and “Jim’ll fix it”.
Interesting on France, Mali and Areva.
Frsnce is fighting a bloody war with already hundreds being killed during the past 3 days.
France is fighting for uranium and for Areva in Mali.
http://uraniuminvestingnews.com/tag/falea-project
http://www.rockgatecapital.com/s/Falea.asp
This is about project Falea in Mali.
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/lauren-collins/2012/10/mitt-mali-and-france.html http://uraniuminvestingnews.com/tag/falea-project
When France is fighting wars for Areva and Uranium, then they would not hesitate to kill a family for Areva’s interest and favour.
Malcolm Lambert?
Don’t tell me that this is the Malcolm Lambert, is he?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/063120959X/ref=aw_d_detail?pd=1
The question is, are all these suspicios deaths, isolated, unrelated, incidents or part of the application of co-ordinated scheme of things according to agreed parameters and objectives. If so by whom, to what objective? Stopping Iran and associated accolytes getting the bomb must be a top liklihood, and who leads the charge on that?
suspicious*
Malcom Lambert (Isle of Man)
Felix did some research on icke
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1061252243
There is more regarding Malcolm Lambert (the right one)
http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/profile/person?personId=511507443&targetid=profile
He likes photography:
http://www.iomastronomy.org/lunareclipseiom.html
He worked as a director for the Willis Management group:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Group
Willis has strong ties to Iraq and military:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Group
http://www.innertemplelibrary.com/2010/08/lockheed-martin-corpn-v-willis-group-ltd-wlr-daily/
Quote
Willis Forms Iraq Reconstruction Team London, UK, May 28, 2003 – Willis Group Holdings (NYSE:WSH), the global insurance broker, has formed a specialist team within its market-leading Construction practice to assist companies to explore and undertake business opportunities in the reconstruction of Iraq. More than $10 billion worth of projects are anticipated to be commenced within the next five years following the lifting of sanctions, all of which will require significant insurance and risk management services. “Willis has been a major broker in the Construction sector in the Middle East for many years”, said David Turner, Chief Executive of Willis UK Construction practice. “Our industry and market placing expertise is complemented by the local knowledge provided by our two Arabic speaking construction specialists in Dubai “. “We have brought together in one team leading practitioners, able to provide a broad range of services to meet the specific requirements of Construction clients wishing to do business in Iraq.” Willis Group Holdings Limited is a leading global insurance broker, developing and delivering professional insurance, reinsurance, risk management, financial and human resource consulting and actuarial services to corporations, public entities and institutions around the world. With over 300 offices in more than 80 countries, its global team of 13,000 associates serves clients in some 180 countries. Additional information on Willis may be found on its web site: http://www.willis.com
@Tim V: I’m going OT.
At 1:04, 1:49 and 2:23 on this video, there is a person who resembles the late Lachlan Cranswick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXpYdFVdwJo
Also seen is a person who resembles an Iranian-born scientist who worked with him at the Chalk River nuclear plant.
It was said at the time of his disappearance that Cranswick shared his free software with other scientists in his field, regardless of their country of origin.
Cranswick had also studied a piece of one of the failed space shuttles. He was well-known around the world as an expert in his line of work. He was on the radar, so to speak.
@Bluebird: The plot thickens. Now another person with ties to Iraq appears on the same mountainside, at the same time? He seems to be a lot like Sylvain Mollier, just passing by, minding his own business, etc.
Now we can toss another Hollywood movie into the mix: “Mr. Hollande’s Opus”. Just kidding.
@ Q : Off Topic, except that it might be a useful skill in an extraction. How photorealistic special effects makeup can now duplicate bodies and body parts.
“Remy Couture found not guilty of corrupting morals.”
“The trial heard that Interpol received a complaint in 2006 from a user in Austria. The scenes were deemed so realistic that a pathologist in Europe couldn’t rule out that a homicide had actually been committed.”
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Remy+Couture+found+guilty+corrupting+morals/7737731/story.html
Question: Is Willis Construction involved in building a pipeline to transport oil from Kurdish territory in Iraq?
Q
We heard about the nuclear pollution in Iraq. Insurance? How many billions? What does SAH know about nuclear desasters in Iraq? What know the MDs Iqbal and Suhaila about radioactive pollution? What does CRIIRAD (Sylvain?) want to do? Sue the insurance? What does the UNO in Geneve know? Do they contribute evidence? Secret meeting for insurance negotiations in favour for the Iraqi people? What would an insurance company have to pay for such kind of post war desasters?
Good question, BB. Insurance is a big issue for construction companies rebuilding in these former war zones, too.
Here’s an article related to my previous thought:
http://fuelfix.com/blog/2013/01/13/oil%E2%80%99s-divisive-influence-in-iraq/
“As relations among local parties become more poisoned, so is the investment climate for foreign direct investment. So far, the Iraqis are finding no takers for ExxonMobil’s 60 percent stake of the giant West Qurna-1 oilfield. Last month, Lukoil made clear it would decline to bid, leaving an even narrower field of possible investors.”
From the article above. Some background:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/exxon-to-pick-buyer-soon-for-iraqs-west-qurna-1-field/article5244479/
Sir Jeremy Hanley
I bet that SAH knew him. There were common interests in London and Iraq.
http://www.willis.com/About_Willis/Our_Team_And_History/Board_of_Directors/
In Lambert’s radio interview, he doesn’t say anything…other than the Al Hilli family were at the same campsite. That’s all he said.
Of course he could have been asked not to say anything.
Or he could be “something else”.
But the reported statement….
“Mr Lambert said they had driven back from a cave and waterfall past the murder scene at around the time the shootings would have taken place”.
Just doesn’t make any sense.
He had driven on a closed road…possible, the barrier was up.
And then passed the crime scene “at around the time the shootings WOULD have taken place” ????
What does that mean ?
Is this sloppy reporting by a local rag ?
What does “would have taken place” mean ? Did it take place ?
Given that the report says he “passed by” the crime scene “at around the time of the shootings”, there is NO mention that he saw the BMW.
This is the English plated car that was parked 50 yards from the place he was staying…and now he is passing it parked in a layby. Was this not noticed by Mr Lambert (or Mrs L or indeed the other couple) ?????
I am not convinced that the report correct in the first instance.
If(IF)it can be proven that Mr Lambert said what is reported in the newspaper, then the question of “did murder actually take place” would be the order of the day.
I think (but do not know) that this is a case of sloppy reporting.
James
Here is the Lambert audio clip from Manx Radio.
http://manxradio.com/newsread.aspx?id=61400
Isle of Man (Manx) is interesting. They apparently have a unique legislation. Malcolm Lambert was director of the Willis Group Isle of Man.
Isle of Man was used both by Iraq and by Iran to undermine UN sanctions.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/10604897
http://www.gov.im/treasury/ViewNews.gov?menuid=&page=lib/news/treasury/customs/iraq.xml
Blue.
Yes, I have listened to that.
He says that he hadn’t seen Al Hilli (although he thinks that the girls were sleeping in the samller tent) …and there are lots of cameras around at moment !
That’s not what the “report” carried.
The “report” in the newspaper said he (Mr Lambert) was up that road and passing by !
Another thing about Mr Lambert. He “appears” rather savvy with the local news. Why ?
Well it could be he has been “on” there before. He was giving his expert insurance advice to shopkeepers after a local incident.
He also is the press officer for a local golf club.
He also writes for the local table tennis club.
and he did a fine piece on facebook for a friend that passed away.
…he also likes taking pictures. The moon. The railway tracks. allsorts.
I can only think that the reportage is at fault. I wait to be corrected.
However it would appear he (Mr Lambert) called the IOM press and gave his interview. As he was still in France at the time of the written report, I can only think that the reporter was “enthusiastic”.