Not Forgetting the al-Hillis 22278

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The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?

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  • bluebird

    Ricki Tarr

    Quote:
    There is a real possibility if the company is Allot that this is actually connected to the Al-Hilli murder

    ++++

    I would go even one step further than you and say:
    There is a real possibility if the company is Allot that al Hilli was actually connected to or contracted by Allot.

    Please help me with the verification whether or not Talia Schwartzmann and Talia Devanderschueren is the same woman. This unsolved question makes me crazy.
    Perhaps identity swaps? But why using the same picture for two women? Or is one life of the two depicted lives of pretty Talia a fake life on the internet?

  • Ricki Tarr

    Blue – I think without doubt it is the same person I have looked at the photgraphs and id say I was 90% sure, im good with faces!

    One of the pictures is on two of the profiles but on one of them it has been cropped!

    Great find.

  • NR

    “20.02.13 Big Brother is winning. Here’s a news flash, for free: Repressive regimes know how to use Facebook too. You know what your government wants you to know. No more.”

    “Ever since the gag order imposed on Ben Zygier’s existence was rendered ridiculous by the ruckus on social networks, whoops of victory have been heard. “It is a new era,” pundits crow. “The genie can’t be stuffed back into the bottle,” they boast. The revolution won’t be broadcast on television or reported in the newspaper, but will be disseminated by online streaming, the geeks preen.”
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/big-brother-is-winning.premium-1.504682

    Copy/Pasted under the fair-use doctrine — plus it’s a free ad for Haaretz. To read more log in for 10 free stories/month or pay for unlimited.

  • James

    Blue…

    Can’t help you with the pictures.
    They do look to be the same person. But couldn’t confirm it.

    “Perhaps identity swaps?”
    That’s more than likely. I think there has been “alot” of it (pardon the pun) going around.

    And with that “pun”.
    Allot seems the likely place for “Leonardo” to have worked.
    And mostly likely FOR Mossad.

    Did Mossad kill him ?
    Well, they do kill their own. So that’s certainly a “maybe”.

    And the “sentiment” in the Press pushes the theory of Mossad.
    BUT the “Mossad killed him because Al Hilli was a spy” makes for a convenient story.

    Therefore if they did (and they don’t mind the speculation), why did they. That’ll be the interesting bit !

  • James

    Think Allot/Iran sales has been hit on before ?

    “Defense Ministry closes probe into Allot’s alleged Iran sales
    The investigation concluded that the company was unaware that the internet monitoring equipment it sold to a distributor ended up in Iranian hands”.

    “Bloomberg broke the story in late December, claiming that Allot knowingly sold the equipment to Iran.

    According to Bloomberg, the company’s “deep-packet inspection” technology can monitor e-mails and messages, and locate people through mobile phones. Allot’s share price fell over 5% on Nasdaq and the TASE following the report, notwithstanding the company’s denial”.

    http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000718874&fid=1725

  • Marlin

    Bluebird 8:02AM

    Looked at the Tahlia pictures – they do look similar but I can’t be sure they are the same without looking at more. Similar hair styles in women can be really deceiving. Plus they both wear similar glasses, and are both young of about similar age . It will take a bit more time to make sure, one way or another. Will check some more later.

    Here is something else I found though, looking through the facebooks: David Schwartzmann is definitely living in Israel now – at least much of the time – that’s pretty clear. But Paul DVDS is not so clear – seems to be in canada and very few of his friends have Israeli names, if any. Had he become israeli at any point his facebook would be choke-full of israelis – they always flock together. Where you find one you’ll find lots more.

    I did, in the meantime, find the name of Ben Zieger’s wife in Israel – it’s Maya (saw it on a blog which had a clear photo of the grave stone). She probably carries the name of Alon, what Ben went by in Israel. I would assume that by now her facebook, assuming she had one, has been scrubbed. Found another australian israeli name – who was a close friend of Ben Zygier. Will provide later.

  • bluebird

    Check the facebook photo of David Schwartzmann and then watch the photo of Ben Zygier in the telegraph linked by NR above:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/9877712/Ben-Zygier-The-great-Prisoner-X-conspiracy-theory.html

    Once again this looks like nameswapping. I cannot help, but they look like twins such as Talia DVDS and Talia Schwartzmann are looking like twins.

    Something is stinking here. Either deliberate false flag pages or there are once again being more identities used and documents swapped.
    If they are agents, i really wonder why they are using facebook and linkedin. They must know that it is easy to track such open and public data. Is it used for disinformation? But then, why did they delete al Hillis and Sylvain’s facebook page already before they announced their names? The relatives could not have done this so quickly. There need to be a government action to delete it that quickly. Facebook and linkedin sites of “normally killed” victims always still exist for many months after their confirmed death.

    James
    I agree with your post. However, as I wrote several times before, i strongly believe that in 2002/2003 Hezbollah did push a beautiful Mata Hari called “Iqbal” into Saad’s bedroom in Dubai. That caused MI 6 to supervise him in 2003. Step by step, SAH might have started to work for both sides. That would always cause bloodshed when it is enough.

    I will stop here digging into Zygier friends because my goal isnt to uncover identities of Mossad agents but to find the “WHY” regarding the al Hilli killings.

  • bluebird

    Marlin

    Zygier’s wife is Maya Zalewsky. She is polish. She uses her name as Maya Zalewsky-Alin today. There was a facebook page and there still is a google link but it is gone.

    I found the below cached on google:

    Aussie agent Ben Zygier jailed for ‘treason’ in Israel | The …
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/…zygier…/stor…– He travelled to Israel in 2000 and later married Maya Zalewski. In early 2010 he was …

    +++++

    I checked that google link but that sentence is gone now. Nada!

    http://m.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/foreign-affairs/aussie-agent-ben-zygier-jailed-for-treason-in-israel/comments-fn59nm2j-1226577492430

    Here is something intetesting below from that link. His mother was a high ranked person in Monash school!!! I suggest to read the comments, too.

    Search for Maya Zalewsky on google and perhaps you will still find something. I stop my digging into Mossad names here because as explained above.

    Quote link above:

    Zygier’s father Geoffrey is a well-known leader in the Jewish community in Melbourne, where he is executive director of the B’Nai B’Rith Anti-Defamation Commission, and former executive director of the Executive Council of Australian Jewry and Victorian Jewish Community Council.His mother Louise is the former philanthropic relations director at Monash University Law School.His sister, Tully Zygier, is a community development worker at Yooralla who has a monthly radio show and is a prolific blogger. On November 21, 2011, she made reference to “the end of last year when I was going through a very hard time”.

  • bluebird

    Sorry

    Mistyped above

    Shoul read: Maya Zalewsky- Alon

    Marlin, we found this at the same time, did we? 🙂

  • James

    Allot sends stuff to RanTek.
    Who then sends then to Iran.

    RanTek also has “M86security” has a client.
    M86 Security International Ltd are listed in England.

    They are based in Lincoln’s Inn Fields.
    And there parent company is “M86 Security Inc” based in the USA.

    I believe they were previously called “Marshal UK Limited”
    NOTE one “L”.

    Now that company (with one L) is dissolved….and the one director is discribed as “a builder” !

    Very strange !

  • James

    Now http://www.m86security.com opens you up into Trustwave.com

    Now Trustwave a VERY interesting !

    Certificate Authority Trustwave has revoked a digital certificate that allowed one of its clients to issue valid certificates for any server, thereby allowing one of its customers to intercept their employees’ private email communication.

    The skeleton-key CA certificate was supplied in a tamper-proof hardware security module (HSM) designed to be used within a data loss prevention (DLP) system.

    DLP systems are designed to block the accidental or deliberate leaking of company secrets or confidential information

    Using the system, a user’s browser or email client would be fooled into thinking it was talking over a secure encrypted link to Gmail, Skype or Hotmail. In reality it was talking to a server on the firm’s premises that tapped into communications before relaying them to the genuine server

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/09/tustwave_disavows_mitm_digital_cert/

  • NR

    @ bluebird 20 Feb, 2013 – 9:41 am
    “I would go even one step further than you and say:
    There is a real possibility if the company is Allot that al Hilli was actually connected to or contracted by Allot.”

    “I will stop here digging into Zygier friends because my goal isnt to uncover identities of Mossad agents but to find the “WHY” regarding the al Hilli killings.”

    Great work on all this, Bluebird. Even if it isn’t Allot it could be one of the other companies like that — Big Data, deep packet inspection, etc.

    Wonder what happened to THF who set off for the New World to find proof that William Herskowitz, from upstate New York, was the shooter at Chevaline, before he shot a chef in Israel.

    Someone here looked into this before, but is this connected?

    “Sylvia Axelrod Herskowitz, graduate of Hunter College, New York. After her marriage to Rabbi William Herskowitz, they moved (from Australia) to Toronto, Canada… In 1962 their family relocated to New York…”
    http://www.jewishaustralia.com/bookseshkolot.htm

  • James

    So RanTek who have sent Allot kit to Iran.
    Also deal with M86 Security…..

    M86 Security is Trustwave….who have a neat little piece of kit that can trick a security certs….and therefore read all your “secret stuff” !!!!

    …and Ali in Oz is Linked In to A Jewish spy, that was killed by his own side !

    And the shooting at Chevaline AREN’T to do with Mossad “hosing down” it’s own inner workings !!!!

  • bluebird

    I think that my BEST FIND in the recent 2 MONTHS was Ali al Hilli in the linkedin profile of Geoffry Zygier. That is quite something.

    Of course the coincidence of Zygier/Milano and Allot and Allot/Surrey Satellites being on the same address, and many of your other finds, thicken the plot.

    Ypu guys will need some time now to work through the new information and to collect the important things. Pity that felix, ferret and olifant are no longer here. Katie would go nuts regarding the new Israel connections.

  • bluebird

    In this linkedin page Maya Alon says that she now works for Amdocs.

    http://il.linkedin.com/in/mayaalon

    David Schwartzmann and Paul Devandenschueren are also working for Amdocs today (in different regions). Previously they both worked for Allot Milano. I suggest that Amdocs, Allot and Elbit are more or less under the same corporate governence.

  • bluebird

    Pity that Sorensen is not here for making screenshots of Geoffry Zygier’s linkedin page and of Maya Zalwsky-Alon’s pipl and linkedin sites.

    Could anyone please? … I am sure that this will be in nirvana soon.

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