Not Forgetting the al-Hillis 22278


The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?


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  • Q

    Further to the interview I saw with M. Maillaud, it involved him saying “at three o’clock”. The interpreter took that to mean “three hours”. Thinking of all the time issues Tim V has revealed to us, and the implications of correct vs. erroneous translations. Sometimes the translations are technically correct, but wrong.

    Further to erroneous interpretations gathered at media scrums:

    Professionals like M. Maillaud are quite good at dealing with scrums. It’s part of their job. They also usually come with their own crew, who record and sometimes videorecord the interview. These assistants also handle the reporters, making the scrum keep its distance, directing questions, limiting questions and ending the interview at will. They sometimes pre-screen the questions and reject unsuitable ones, although all parties would like you to believe it’s completely spontaneous. The secret’s out.

    Relatives of people caught up in news events are unlikely to deal well with scrums. They are surrounded in a crowd of microphones and lights. They are stressed, tired, confused and unaccustomed to having their personal space invaded (and sometimes being jostled in the process), or being in the spotlight. They’re surrounded by people talking over other people. Now throw in some language barriers and people who don’t want to hear what they have to say anyways. I’ve always believed that this approach is not fair to the families who wind up in front of the cameras. Reporters use some of the same interrogation tricks that cops use, like posing a question in several different ways and trying to get the interviewee to make a mistake in the confusion. The only difference might be that they all play “bad cop”, without a “good cop”.

    I don’t blame the uncle Ruslan for asking the reporters to respect his property. He may have granted his interview only to get the reporters to back off. Were they standing on his front step, shoving cameras at the windows? Okay, now I’m starting to understand why Sylvain Mollier’s family passed on interviews. Weren’t they connected to politicians familiar with the media, who might have warned them against such a thing?

  • Q

    It is most helpful to grasp the “lone wolf” vs. “lone wolves in packs” distinction. I will apply this understanding to the “lone wolf” theory advanced by the AECL Chalk River nuclear plant co-workers of Lachlan Cranswick. A local cop said that there was no sign of a wolf attack, as there was no blood, clothing or remains anywhere to be found at the time of the disappearance. It makes more sense now, considering that “lone wolf”, and “lone wolves” in packs have nothing to do with canines. Real wolf attacks on humans are so rare as to be extraordinary, and always leave signs. Other wolves have sweeper teams.

  • Q

    It is most helpful to review certain media outlets for their slant on important stories, like The Telegraph, Fox News and the New York Times.

    The New York Times is reporting that the Boston bombing brothers acted alone. Meanwhile, one “alternative” website is showing the photos of three men in khaki pants, military boots and dark jackets, carrying black backpacks and sporting earpieces with wires, who were photographed at the Boston bombings. The website claims that the skull logo on the hat of one of the men is a special ops/private security firm logo. The website shows photos of the men running from the scene after the bombings without two of the backpacks. Photos of three men with a striking resemblance to the men at the scene of the Boston bombings are then shown in a TV interview shortly after the Sandy Hook shootings, where they played a key role. What the?

    Chevaline was too secluded to offer images caught on multiple security cams and phones.

  • NR

    @ Q 19 Apr, 2013 – 11:04 pm
    “In shades of M. Maillaud, the story of the Boston bombers robbing a 7-11 convenience story has been retracted. What next?”

    I think there will be nothing next. Just as with Chevaline the major media are uninterested in investigating discrepancies. There’s no profit in it. Their consumers don’t want questions asked. The media’s task is to don short skirts, grab their pom-poms and act as cheerleaders to the collective. With the fiends and monsters killed/captured, the only interest, if any at all, is in background that proves those named are indeed fiends, bigger fiends than we imagined, and a “brought to justice” (like a true Jihadist would care) by whatever means.

    A US senator is calling for the surviving fiend to be tortured under the “public safety” exemption, as soon as he regains consciousness. Most considerate of him, waiting for that. Better results might be obtained by torturing while unconscious. Who knows what might be blurted out.

    Like Chevaline there will remain a few hundred amateurs with limited resources investigating oddities. There are many. In addition to the firm you mention:
    http://www.thecraft.com/craft_skull.html
    “Craft International are mercenary Knights Templars.”

    There is the forgotten story of the Saudi student who was not-a-suspect, possibly a witness, but “was not free” to leave the hospital, and why his roomie drove in circles around a police station until he was stopped, then led them to the apartment where they removed a spool of yellow wire, a large black hold-all, and a military style rucksack. Note the Boston affair has zero red backpacks or red holdalls.

    Or there’s the story of why were the two brothers initially incorrectly named as Mike Mulgeta and Sunil Tripathi, allegedly from India, Indonesia and a few other places. Where did that come from, why did AP go with it, with media dutifully following along like puppies? Who are Mike and Sunil? Innocent citizens misidentified and smeared?

  • bluebird

    http://www.dnaindia.com/world/1824889/report-boston-bombing-suspect-not-guilty-best-friend-starts-troycrossleytruth-campaign

    NR
    The j_tsar twitter account seems to be legit. His friends and contacts there are legit and make sense. E.g. rapper troy Crossley is one of his best friends. Their twitter talks are still there. Also his talks with TheRealAbdul are still there.
    All of his friends crying “false flag”.

    Even Jahar did twitter himself on April 16: “False flag”.

    However, we do not know about how many posts were deleted or blanked by the clean teams. For instance, there are no messages in the days after sept. 6th and thete are no messages on dec. 14 and 15 in his twitter account. Maybe coincidence or Jahar was too busy in these days?

    You are right. We cannot believe very much on the www.
    Even many of the pictures were clearly photoshopped. However, there is a chance that photos were edited by truthers to confirm their conspiracy theory. The www is pretty much a mess regarding the truth. However, defending the truth might guarantee freedom. Not defending the truth means slavery and warfare.

  • Tim V

    Bluebird
    20 Apr, 2013 – 2:59 pm

    Btw. Tsagaev received his US citizenship on SEPTEMBER 11 2012.
    Not even the most crazy conspiracy guy coupd invent such a coincidence without looking ridiculous.

    Really? Proof positive that that the secret of good comedy is … timing.

  • Tim V

    Q
    20 Apr, 2013 – 5:10 pm re. wolves/lone wolf as has been noted, in both Boston and Chevaline the “Lone Wolf” suggestion was made from official (police) sources very early on in the time-frame. Of course as I pointed out months ago, in the case of Chevaline it actually happened in designated “Wolf Reserve” at a place called “Martinet”

    Definition of martinet:

    “an implement in erotic spanking scenes, hard to distinguish from the flogger, but that is usually lighter and

    a French homonym, from first name Martin and suffix -et, is a kind of swallow.

    “Swallow”: “Seduction is a classic technique; “swallow” was the KGB tradecraft term for women, and “raven” the term for men, trained to seduce intelligence targets.[12]” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clandestine_HUMINT_asset_recruiting

  • Tim V

    “As part of the swap announced Thursday, the 10 accused Russian spies in U.S. possession will fly home.

    The fate of their children were certainly “part of the negotiations, ” Martin said — another precedent.

    The Russians will claim those who were Russian-born are their citizens, Martin said.

    “For the children who are native-born Americans, the Constitution confers American citizenship,” he noted.

    But evidence that their parents’ citizenship was falsely obtained will complicate matters.

    “Children who are foreign-born and whose parents used false documentation to obtain their child’s citizenship, places the children in jeopardy in terms of their status,” Martin said.

    Those over 18 can decide for themselves what to do, unless they are here illegally.

    But in the end, Martin said, “the families will have to make the decisions” on the fate of their youngsters, he said.

    “It puts them in their lap.”

    Some of the accused have been expressing deep worries about their childrens’ well-being, but Martin said his sympathy for them has limits.

    “They should have been thinking about that before taking on their spying assignments,” he said.

    By Jeff Stein | July 8, 2010; 5:15 PM”
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2010/07/spy_swap_nearly_unprecedented.html

  • Tim V

    The two CIA’s ?

    ” If he rejects the report and defends the program, he will be courting the ire of some Democrats on the intelligence committee who feel very strongly about this report and think it’s very well done. On the other hand, if he embraces this report, he’s joining in very, very strong criticism of a program that was at the heart of the CIA’s campaign against al-Qaida for some years. And there are many CIA rank-and-file officers, midlevel folks, who were involved in that program.

    The so-called enhanced interrogation methods – waterboarding and so on – really divided the CIA as much as those methods divided the Congress, the public. And so some people will probably – at the CIA – probably be quietly cheering this report. Others will be infuriated by it. And it will fall to John Brennan to manage this very difficult process.” http://www.npr.org/2013/03/10/173934709/the-cia-brennan-inherits-more-military-less-espionage

  • Q

    “I just saw all the Swat teams in our backyard with their funds drawn,” she said. “We were crawling on our elbows through the house, trying to find a safe place. Our doorbell was ringing and we didn’t know who it was, we couldn’t see the police. We were terrified.”

    From: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/20/boat-watertown-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-swiss-cheese

    @ Tim V: The secret to good comedy is found in the ridiculous. The poor woman must have found it quite frightening to see a bunch of cops waving dollar bills.

  • Q

    @ Tim V: To quote Henri le chat, “Mon francais is perfect.”

    All I can tell you early into the clip is that they are sure the cyclist had nothing to do with it. That’s where I stopped watching.

  • Tim V

    “Dschokhar Tsarnaev’s feet can be seen at the center of this image captured by an infrared device.
    Thermal imaging has helped firefighters, airport security guards, scientists and building inspectors — on Friday, it helped restore peace to Boston.

    A helicopter equipped with a thermal imager picked up on Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s body heat through a tarp in a Watertown, Mass. resident’s boat.”

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/thermal-imaging-aided-bomb-suspect-arrest-article-1.1322811#ixzz2R3B9W0gs

    Inferences may be taken from information released and information with-held. In sharp contrast to the Pentagon attack and Chevaline, the ACTUAL helicopter heat camera image has been published. In the former video was seized and buried (giving meaning to the term in “in camera” perhaps?); in the latter the well publicised ineffective helicopter heat search (proving incidentally the lone wolf(ves) didn’t escape on foot.

    I am tempted to think that uncharacteristic revelation of police/FBI material is as suspicious as the usual retention/secrecy. Early information can as easily indicate framing as efficiency and transparency.

  • Tim V

    BOSTON’S extraordinary manhunt began with eight words, written down by one of the victims of the marathon bombing, who has now been hailed a hero.

    He wrote: “Bag, saw the guy, looked right at me”.

    Jeff Bauman had been waiting for his girlfriend to cross the finish line when a man wearing a cap, sunglasses and a black jacket over a hooded sweatshirt looked him in the eyes and dropped a bag at his feet. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/boston-bombers-were-revealed-to-police-in-eight-words-written-by-hero-runner-jeff-bauman-who-helped-with-manhunt/story-e6frg6n6-1226625202011

    This sounds like a fairly convincing witness and the description appears to fit. I’ve tried to find the shots of the two walking away that I thought were out there, to see if they still had their back-packs (described as a “bag” above you will notice) but I can’t find it now. Perhaps BB you might be more successful?

  • Tim V

    Thanks Q
    21 Apr, 2013 – 12:37 am. Sounds as if they are a Maillaud conduit then. Who knows what jems might remain hidden there then?

  • NR

    Tim V 20 Apr, 2013 – 10:01 pm
    “I still have an open mind about this incident”

    Me too. Oddities so far prove nothing, just items of interest.

    One is that, according to our ever-reliable media, after the fiasco of the wrongly accused (by Reddit/4Chan and Murdoch’s New York Post) backpack brothers in blue, investigators next released the first photos of the official suspects, two men seen wearing black backpacks near the bombing scene.

    The media assured us that authorities needed help in identifying the two, as they must already have run the pics through facial recognition software, government databases, TSA cameras at airports, etc., and found no matches.

    Yet shortly after the strange “sketch” pic at the convenience store was released, the authorities added two clear passport/visa pics. Why wouldn’t those pics be in their databases, especially since one suspect had been investigated by the FBI in 2011?

    I’ve not seen an interview with the driver of the vehicle the suspects carjacked, used his ATM card, then released unharmed. Is he a BM/PD type character? Did they load up with their final allotment of one last pressure-cooker bomb, home made grenades and pipe bombs and weapons, then go out on the street looking for a carjack victim, or did they carjack first and travel somewhere to pick up weaponry?

  • NR

    Q 21 Apr, 2013 – 12:29 am: “I just saw all the Swat teams in our backyard with their funds drawn,”

    One of the best lines ever. If they didn’t have fistfuls of dollars in hand, the managers and supervisors certainly had visions of budget increases dancing in their heads. No politician would dare object now.

    Watched an hour of Fox News. The law-and-order loons are in full cry. Only Jerry Springer and Dr. Phil absent. Best was someone demanding, “We gotta stop goin’ after the Genoveses and Colombos and worry about terrorists. Check all the computers.” Thought it was a real mafioso, but it was an ex NYPD homicide detective. He’s ready for prime-time if Hollywood needs a convincing Don.

    Earlier in the week someone on Fox accidentally referred to the suspect as a gentleman instead of a terrorist. They’re still apologizing for that. Typical media. Endless apologies for trivial mis-speaks, especially politically incorrect ones; never an apology for factual errors. Could not endure an hour of CNN to find out what leftist loons are spinning.

    If they’re going to interrogate the alleged terrorist, either regularly or enhancedly, it should be on live TV, so if he names either President Putin’s or Obama’s minions or Mossadi from Monash, they can’t stamp it super-duper-secret and cover up.

  • NR

    Tim V 21 Apr, 2013 – 1:45 am: “I’ve tried to find the shots of the two walking away that I thought were out there, to see if they still had their back-packs (described as a “bag” above you will notice) but I can’t find it now.”

    There is vid of the two approaching a surveillance cam and then one from a reverse cam of them walking away, but both these are several minutes prior to placement of the bombs. Don’t recall if there’s anything of them walking away after placement.

    The authorities say they have video of one actually placing a bomb, but that vid is not released. There’s a still frame of one of them allegedly standing beside a bag on the ground, on the spectators side of the fence, but no frames of him actually putting the bag down. The bag is supposedly right next to the child that was killed.

    Not that it’s a conspiracy, but prior to the pics of the final suspects, it was a big deal when authorities released pics from the Lord & Taylor surveillance cam. First pic was of the supposed unexploded bomb in a white bag with orange trim next to a trash bin on the street side of the fence.

    Second pic was after explosion, but the area where white/orange bag sat was heavily blurred because our delicate sensibilities couldn’t handle the unspeakable carnage. To a casual observer it seemed the two pics were minutes apart, and the question was what happened to the heavy crowd behind the fence; were they vaporized and why was the trash bin not damaged?

    It was only our much maligned Daily Mail that pointed out the two pics were probably hours apart, and they also had a less heavily blurred version of the after-explosion pic where the white/orange bag was still visible, though one couldn’t tell if it had been damaged. In retrospect it was likely a plastic trash bag that had been removed from the bin and placed on the street side for later clean up. The officials, having the unblurred version, must have know what it was when they released the pic so why did they leave the impression it was some sort of backpack or bag.

    The DM was also the only media I saw that gave an exact distance in feet between the two explosions. The rest had wildly varying guesstimates — too lazy to check a map.

  • NR

    @bluebird 21 Apr, 2013 – 10:05 am
    “Same guys “first responding” in Boston and in Sandy Hook:”
    Isn’t that interesting.

    Apparently the driver of the carjacked Mercedes is Missing In Action and many people have noted this. Just like BM and PD, he did not give interviews immediately. Ordinarily the media would be all over the unnamed man — like a gang rape, as one commenter phrased it. US ABC TV and others have people in far-off Dagestan interviewing parents, but nothing about the carjacked man.

    It’s only the police who say that he said the suspects confessed to him that they were indeed the bombers. Also, they already had a vehicle. Why carjack another, unless they needed his ATM card for cash.

    “From there, the brothers allegedly carjacked the Mercedes, forcing the driver to withdraw money from an ATM. They eventually let the victim go, but not before telling him they were responsible for both the marathon bombings and the police officer’s death, Deveau said.”

    “A single officer was the first to encounter the two cars that Tamerlan and Dzhokar Tsarnaev were driving, just before 1 a.m. Friday, Chief Edward Deveau said. One of the vehicles was a Mercedes sport utility vehicle the brothers carjacked earlier that night, he said.”

    Many others have noted the absurd story that authorities needed public help IDing suspects from pics when they already had the passport pics. Either the vaunted facial recognition system designed to catch terrorists is a total farce, or there’s an obscure and dark reason behind this. Like authorities didn’t catch Bradley Manning by monitoring communications, but needed two small-time, free-lance loons to entrap him.

    Many others are also calling for the surviving suspect to be interrogated on TV — one suggestion is Sen. Rand Paul be present to insure integrity.

    There’s only one other ref I could find to the unusual “sketch” pic from the convenience store. It’s key to something. What?

    One investigative tack is to take roll call of all the $250,000 emergency script doctors in Hollywood and determine how many are suddenly in Washington this week.

    The alleged bomber may well be eating ice-cream in hospital, waiting for somebody, anybody, to come up with a convincing plot.

    “We need another rewrite. The King told the boss if we mention another Saudi, no more oil. Bibi won’t allow mention of Australia and Putin’s at the judo club, so we don’t know what notes well get back from him. Try to make Russians look good.”

  • NR

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/mass_gov_says_suspects_has_motivation_0aEQNdcDuCoKEZUwFmftmK

    “It does seem to be pretty clear that this suspect took the backpack off, put it down, did not react when the first explosion went off and then moved away from the backpack in time for the second explosion,” [Governor Patrick Deval] said. “It’s pretty clear about his involvement and pretty chilling, frankly.”

    “[He] said he hadn’t viewed the videotape but had been briefed by law enforcement officials about it.”

    “Boston Mayor Thomas Menino also said information he has indicates that the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombing acted alone.”

    Then they wonder why there are conspiracy theories. Has a judge ruled this video, pre-explosion, is too morbid for us to see, like the happy family pics of the SAHs? Or is the raw camera data uploaded to Industrial Light & Magic for CGI work. 🙂

    http://shoebat.com/2013/04/18/another-photo-of-alharbi-in-hospital-this-time-smiling-with-saudi-diplomat/
    Compare to:
    http://www.bizpacreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/boston-terrorist.jpg

    The UK Mirror is sticking with sleeper-cell story linked above. Drudge Report links to it. No one else is going with it, including DM.

  • Tim V

    NR
    21 Apr, 2013 – 11:49 am

    This seems to raise a few questions. Police say the two brothers high jack the Mercedes. When did they do this? After the forced lift with the disappeared driver I assume. Where were they heading and why were they not well clear of Boston if their intention was to get away? In this vehicle it appears they had other explosive devices including pressure cooker similar to those that were used earlier. So when and how did they have them in the vehicle if they left their back packs at the scene? They must presumably have gone back to their accommodation, collected them, then hi jacked the vehicle? Sounds a bit implausible but perhaps I’ve just misunderstood.

    “Five other police officers, including two who had just finished their shifts, then arrived at what Deveau called a “very tight area” in the middle of an intense shootout.
    “We estimate there was over 200 shots fired in a five- to 10-minute period,” Deveau said.
    One of the brothers threw an explosive at the officers. They later discovered it was a pressure cooker bomb, similar to the ones used at the marathon Monday, the chief said.
    “We find the pressure cooker embedded in the car down the street, so there’s a major explosion during this gunfight (with) my officers — six of my officers that I’m extremely proud of,” Deveau said.
    The brothers also allegedly threw other explosives at the officers. “They were lighting them and throwing them,” Deveau said, adding they were “very rough devices.”
    Two exploded and two did not. Police later found a sixth explosive in one of the cars.”

  • Tim V

    I wondered if they ended up at their own house but apparently not, so the weapons and bombs must have been with them in the high-jacked vehicle(s). How would they hi jack a vehicle whilst carrying large bulky items if they had left their back packs at the scene? Just asking.

    And then there is the timing (again). About fourteen hours between initial blasts and the shoot-out. Nineteen hours between the shoot-out and the arrest? What happened in the interims?

    ” Handguns, a rifle and at least six bombs — three of which exploded — were found at the scene early Friday after officers first confronted the two Boston Marathon bombing suspects in the darkness of a residential street, the Watertown, Massachusetts, police chief said Saturday in an interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer.
    A single officer was the first to encounter the two cars that Tamerlan and Dzhokar Tsarnaev were driving, just before 1 a.m. Friday, Chief Edward Deveau said. One of the vehicles was a Mercedes sport utility vehicle the brothers carjacked earlier that night, he said.
    The chase that ensued eventually led to David Henneberry’s backyard, where Dzhokar Tsarnaev had hidden on the floor of Henneberry’s boat. Tsarnaev was taken into custody at about 8:45 p.m. Friday evening.” http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/20/us/boston-details

  • Tim V

    “The manhunt for Dzhokar Tsarnaev lasted all day Friday and brought much of Boston to a standstill. Then, in the evening, authorities finally got a tip: A Watertown man told police someone was hiding in his boat in the backyard, bleeding. It turned out to be their suspect, Deveau said.
    “At that point, we had a couple of thousand police officers on the scene. The turnout was just incredible,” he said.
    A thermal image photograph indicated that a person — identified by police as Tsarnaev — was lying in the center of the boat.
    Officers could see Tsarnaev poking through the tarp covering the boat, and then a gunfire erupted, Deveau said.”

    ME: The next bit doesn’t ring true does it? “Flash-bangs” are used to disable prior to attack. In which heavily armed men would have gone in to arrest suspect following them being used. Instead spokesman says that negotiation follows the blast-bangs. This is simply incredible. A suspect would be in no fit state to negotiate for the twenty minutes following such.

    “Police used “flash-bangs,” devices meant to stun people with a loud noise, and started 20 to 30 minutes of negotiation with Tsarnaev.”

    “Police had no idea whether he had weapons or explosives with him, so they repeatedly told him to stand up and lift his shirt to show he wasn’t wearing a device, Deveau said.
    An FBI negotiator was on the second floor of the house looking down at the boat, but he couldn’t see Tsarnaev under the tarp. A state police helicopter overhead used a heat sensor to determine that Tsarnaev was alive and moving, Deveau said.
    Eventually Tsarnaev stood up and lifted his shirt for the officers.
    “At that point, once we saw that, we felt comfortable enough to send some officer tactical equipment to grab him and pull him away from the boat,” Deveau said. “He needed first aid, so he was transported by ambulance into a Boston hospital.”

    I would suggest this is a highly contrived account of what actually happened.

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