The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
It’s a chilling thought Bluebird
24 Apr, 2013 – 10:47 pm that much of London’s inflated property prices results from crime, drugs, espionage, and/or Russian mafia apart from all the other illicit and tax-dodging schemes. What a pack of cards. The modern equivalent of elegant and respectable Bristol and Liverpool built on the proceeds of the slave trade.
@ Bluebird
“Members of the Royal family have expressed “dismay” at the Duke of York’s friendship with a convicted paedophile… he was “very, very upset” at the furore over his relationship with the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/8369525/Royal-familys-dismay-at-Duke-of-Yorks-controversial-friends.html
Oh, Goody! Now we’ve got The Royals and pervs indirectly connected to the Boston Bombings:
“Did Epstein’s wealth and social connections -— former President Bill Clinton; Prince Andrew; former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak; New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson; and former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers were just a few of the prominent passengers on his private jets -— allow him to receive only a slap on the wrist for crimes that carry a mandatory 20-year sentence? Was he able, with his limitless assets and heavy-hitting lawyers -— Alan Dershowitz, Gerald Lefcourt, Roy Black, Kenneth Starr, Guy Lewis, and Martin Weinberger among them—to escape equal justice?”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/07/20/jeffrey-epstein-billionaire-pedophile-goes-free.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/08/sarah-duchess-of-york-jeffrey-epstein-pedophile-loan_n_832858.html
Names named here – assorted perverts, not Uncle Ruslan. Wouldn’t want to falsely accuse him of anything dirty.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-222773-p-236.html
“Katherine was arrested along with an unnamed female minor on 26 June 2007. Then, the police report states, she was ‘skinny’ with hazel eyes and red or auburn hair – now firmly concealed by the Hijab.”
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/tamerlan_tsarnaev_got_mass_welfare_benefits
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2314214/Katherine-Russell-wife-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-arrested-shoplifting.html
They’re all Welfare Queens with Rolexes, Benzes & Porches! Assorted stories floating about that bros revealed to Mr. AnonCarjackVictimConfessor that they were headed to Manhattan to party (odd for devout Muslim jihadist); that bros who originally were said to have arsenal of weapons had one 9mm, killed cop to try and obtain second gun, failed; that Tamerlan asked how to find copy of “Protocols of Elders of Zion (he didn’t know how to use search engine); that Russian agents followed on ground him in US and became alarmed before his trip to Russia, alerting FBI. (Should we outsource our intelligence services to the Russians?)
“Something familiar, something peculiar, something for everyone: a comedy tonight!”
There is the same thing happening like we have had in the Chevaline case.
Media tried to tell us tgrough “friends”:
1. “suddenly turned Radical; recent rants on muslim extremists boards, hates America, hates Israel, false flag truther.”
“Debunked”:. Tamerlan visiting CIA seminars in 2012 and Jahar being the weed smoking ordinary American teenager.
2. Ordinary family, emigramts, nothing spcial.
“Debunked”: Links to CIA and Halliburton and to Kazah billionair Kulibayev (son in law of Kazah president) – (that’s the links of uncle Ruslan) and then links to Kirgysian and Chechnian oligarchs and mafia bosses (father).
Don’t know whatelse will come up next.
The same was the case with the al Hillis. Ordinary Iraqi family …. until we found Hashim, united nations representative for Iraq plus the deep links of al Hilli with Ayatollah al Sistani and al Khoei.
Almost forgot about REDdit co-founder Aaron Swartz.
We knew Tamerlan’s YouTube channel included the radical Australian sheik, but suddenly it’s reported he also had on his YouTube channel vids of extremist Dagestani bomb maker. Why would that not be emphasized earlier? Have they been added by “someone”.
If Tamerlan was devout Muslim and controller of puppy-dog bro, why was he a stoner and heavy partier? Following the edits of the Audtralian sheik Tamerlan was obliged to whip baby bro for his evilness.
Now some bomb making experts are saying the bros were extraordinarily clever and equipped each of their cooker bombs, pipe bombs and home-made grenades with alternate methods of detonation. Like cell-phones, toy-car remotes, and old-fashioned fuses if you needed to quickly fling them at police. The loons can explain away anything.
Another bomb-maker is sticking to his story that there’s zero chance of novices making that many devices without premature explosions.
Official reports say at least one of the pressure cooker bombs was detonated by toy-car remote. That could not be the one where the bomber is shown in pics detonating it by making a cell phone call. I mean, you wouldn’t briefly hold a toy-car remote to your ear.
Correction above: “edicts of the Australian sheik” not “edits of the Audtralian sheik”
“On the run: A man thought to be 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev enters a gas station in Cambridge, Massachusetts, wearing a gray hoodie and carrying snacks on Thursday evening. He appears to be followed by his brother Tamerlan in a beige cap.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2313489/Boston-bomber-Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev-seen-using-stolen-ATM-card-cash-new-surveillance-images.html#ixzz2RMZCxyIX
Find 12 or more things wrong in above pics. It does explain what I called the “canvassed” or “sketch” pic. It’s zoomed so far as to see camera pixels. Easier to ID him on a less magnified version.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2314448/Now-officials-claim-Boston-bombing-suspect-NOT-armed-boat-showdown–despite-police-account-firefight-shooting-himself.html
“A criminal complaint outlining federal charges against the surviving bombing suspect, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, described him as holding a cellphone in his hand minutes before the first explosion.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2314479/Boston-Marathon-bombing-Devices-detonated-remotes-taken-toys.html
Pic of “Two different caps”. Possibly a crease, but doubt that turns a 3 into a 7.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIeDUVxCQAA2h34.jpg
With the assassination of Osama and massacre at Chevaline we got the 72 versions. With this one were getting the 7200 and possibly the 72,000 before it’s over. Lucky us. There’s a massive cover-up of something in progress — sting gone wrong or embarrassment at the total intelligence failure. Unlike Chevaline, a very few of the main media, Daily Mail and CNN, are questioning discrepancies.
Widow’s father, Warren Russell, is an emergency room doctor whose Facebook profile lists his high school alma mater as the elite New Hampshire boarding school Phillips Exeter Academy and college as Yale.
Yale! Skull n Bones! The Illuminati Russell Trust! Don’t know if he’s a Bonesman and in pic below can’t see if he’s throwing Masonic gang signs, but he has the G.W. Bush “What Me Worry?” grin. And he’d have protection from Sec State Kerry and others.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/21/article-2312588-196625AE000005DC-208_634x433.jpg
How does widow of a dead Muslim alleged terrorist get immunity from immediate and extensive questioning? Look what happened to the poor Elvis impersonator. Either she’s connected or threatening to spill more beans and is doing a deal. Dangerous dealings. We’ll soon hear she died of a broken heart.
“Tsarnaev’s lawyer said she had no reason to suspect her husband of anything and was focused on supporting her family, working 70 to 80 hours, seven days a week as a home health care aide. According to him, her husband cared for their daughter when she was away. However, witnesses say that she was normally at home with the child and often seemed lonely.”
http://articles.mamaslatinas.com/in_the_news/112485/katherine_russell_tsarnaev_10_things
Other neighbours said they were kept awake by frequent loud arguments between the lovey-doveys late at night.
An interview with a Boston shopkeeper: “Awad, who emigrated from Lebanon in 1988, said he’s all but certain more arrests will follow. He said he won’t be surprised if the Tsarnaev brothers had ties to others in the Boston area who are religiously inspired and hold radical anti-Western, anti-Christian views.”
“Around school, Tsarnaev was known as a guy who loved soccer and brushed off invitations to join the Muslim Student Association on campus, according to its president, Ahmad Nassri. “I was trying to pull him into the group,” Nassri said. “He didn’t really want it. I think he attended one meeting. He defined himself as a Muslim but if you asked him if he was religious he would say, ‘No.’” Bettencourt said he had found disturbing the casual way Tsarnaev chatted about the bombings during his gym workout. “I don’t know how he talked about it. I don’t know what was going on in his head,” Bettencourt said. “I was driving here and thinking ‘Wow, he actually did it.’” [Or he didn’t.]
Russians claim Tamerlan attended CIA affiliated seminar in Russia. Can’t get a good translation.
http://izvestia.ru/news/549301
“Troy Crossley, 20, as the person responsible for starting the campaign to exonerate the Boston bombing suspect. Crossley has employed a flood of tweets with hashtags like #troycrossleytruth and #fuckthegovernment.”
He’s accused by non-deniers of the official tale of being a fan of an obviously guilty monster, along with enamoured teen girls. Standard troll tactics.
http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/dzhokhar-is-innocent.html?m=1
On the other CM threads, worth reading, the squabbles and insults are minimal this time, one commenter makes a good point.
He’s formerly of The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), and in debunking some of the conspiracies, such as government photoshopped pics, he relates how difficult it is to get anything properly coordinated between agencies. I’m assuming he means joint ops such as raids by ATF, DEA, Sheriffs, Federal Marshalls, local police.
In the Los Angeles Rodney King riots it took 4 days to activate and deploy the National Guard and Marines.
http://www.southcentralhistory.com/la-riots.php
Which brings up another question. Immediately after the shootout with Tamerlan, the governor locked-down the city of Boston and had virtual (if undeclared) martial law in a large area of Watertown. How did the government do that so quickly? Why would they anticipated the need to do that?
http://www.eurasiareview.com/21042013-boston-bombings-kyrgyz-former-neighbors-talk-about-tsarnaevs-north-caucasus-ties/
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article621056.ece
Goga Ashkenazi: By royal ascent
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/goga-ashkenazi-by-royal-ascent-2239797.html
The key to Goga’s wealth is her son Adam’s father, Timur Kulibayev, who is said to control 90 per cent of the Kazakh oil fields. Kulibayev is also the son-in-law of Nursultan Nazarbayev, the country’s President for the last 20 years. He remained married to the President’s daughter Dinara (and still is) at the time Adam was born at the Portland Hospital in London in December 2007, and when he and Goga walked into the Westminster Council office to register the child’s birth six weeks later.
Enter “Uncle Ruslan”But the biggest red flag, the one pertinent to murder in Boston, was Oligarch Kukibayev’s use of money laundered through a network of offshore companies to attempt to hide his purchase of Prince Andrew’s crib, which emerged during a legal battle between another billionaire Kazakh oligarch, Mukhtar Ablyazov, and BTA Bank, from which Kazakhstan claims Ablyazov embezzled a very cool $6 billion dollars.And this is where “Uncle Ruslan” Tsarni comes in.The purchase of the Prince’s estate was put together, according to prosecutors in Italy and Switzerland, by a group of oil executives who comprise “a network of personal and business relationships” allegedly used for “international corruption,” reported The London Telegraph.Tsarni, called “a US lawyer who has had dealings in Kazakh business affairs,” by the Sunday Times, clearly appears to be a member of that network.The Sunday Times reported, “A statement by Ruslan Zaindi Tsarni was given in the High Court in December, claiming that Kulibayev bought Sunninghill and properties in Mayfair with $96 million derived from a complex series of deals intended to disguise money laundering.”“Tsarni alleged that the money came from the takeover of a western company, which had been used as a front to obtain oil contracts from the Kazakh state.”A Big Big Sky’s the LimitThe “western company” used to launder the money which the Sunday Times referred to is Big Sky Energy Corporation, where Ruslan Tsarni was a top executive.
Interesting links back to London and to the British Royalty (Tsarnaev family)
The trouble is the “two state solution” and I’m not referring to Israel. We have the state within a state, a parallel administration that is well funded by the state but hardly answerable to it.
The way it disperses its billions of dollars/pounds/euros is shrouded from public gaze. The public is informed its rationale is essential and protective; its methods legal; when because political leaders and public are kept in the dark the former cannot be challenged. Both assertions have to be largely on trust.
Every so often the truth emerges and then the spin machine roles into action – “ancient history”, “past mistakes”, “different now”, “rogue agents”, “didn’t know/wasn’t informed”, “exceeded authority”, “suspicious deaths”, “reputation demolition”, “early retirement whilst protecting the pension”, “promotion as reward for silence”, “arms length deniability”, “sacrificial lambs” etc.!
In reality in pursuance of the ill-defined national interest, which in fact may be personal interest of a select few, the public purse is utilized for operations that may involve violence and mass injury/death, to increase tension, public anxiety of some amorphous threat, that enables greater state power and actions that would otherwise not be tolerated.
All these were evident in the Italy examples from 1970’s to mid 80’s, masterminded by CIA and right wing groups, the aim being to frustrate the Communist Party and specifically so alleged by a leader of the so-called “Gladio” organisation. It would be a fool to think that the CIA has changed its persona – a reformed character – and no longer engages in such practises.
The great difficulty is in distinguishing between the genuinely executed foreign terrorist operation and those actually inspired and masterminded by our own agencies the so called “False or Black Flag” operation. (NB Chevaline was on the way to “Black Mountain”)
The other “State” is represented we hope by the justice and police system. However as we saw in the Italian 1972 Peteano case, where policemen were lured to their deaths, it was later revealed that the very Carabinieri chief in charge of the murder investigation, though not party to the deaths, was party to the cover-up. It is done as per Chevaline, with ostentatious show of action, whilst lacking any real intent, and along the way allowing so many oversights, seeded mistakes and failures to pursue lines of enquiry, to ensure ultimate nothing is resolved. Seldom though has failure been so clearly predicted.
Government must keep up appearances whilst actually being complicit either in the crime itself or in the cover-up. That this is deeply corrosive of our trust in our system of democratic government is an understatement. If you cannot trust the police and justice system to uncover the truth and pursue murders, who can we trust?
As for the British system and secret agencies we like to think we are somewhat superior to those Americans, Russians and Israelis. It is often stated that MI6 does not engage in murder. The story is told of Churchill rejecting a plan to assassinate Hitler as evidence. (The thousands of German civilians incinerated hardly makes for a convincing moral position though)
Having said that, there is evidence in relation to Nasser and recently Patrice Lumumba (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-22006446) that we in fact did, not to mention where we assisted others as with Reagan’s bombing run on Libya to kill Gaddafi. Similarly we can hardly be proud of our record with rendition and torture even if we wore white gloves and only looked on.
Then incidents Such as Gareth Williams remind us that indeed we have very similar circumstances here, where police and Coroner investigations are actually obstructed. Where incongruities in the 7/7 bombing for example make you wonder, particularly when followed by the obligatory loss of civil rights and increased state powers that almost got through.
So is Boston just the latest example of this state within a state organising an event, following its own perverse agenda? Can the FBI be relied upon to to uncover the truth? We shall have to wait and see won’t we? If not we only have the WWW to fall back on.
The British spy Gareth Williams was friends with Timur Kulibayev Kazakhstan’s President Nursultan Nazarbayev’s son-in-law, Timur Kulibayev,
Timur Kulibayev was born on 10 September 1966 in Alma-Ata, Kazakhstan. Kulibayev began his business career in 1990 and is currently deputy head of the Samruk-Kazyna company. It is widely acknowledged that Kulibayev would replace President Nursultan Nazarbayev, should he step down from his position.
Earning a significant net worth from the many positions that he has held in state owned enterprises, Kulibayev is worth an estimated $1.1 billion. Kulibayev is the Kazakh billionaire alleged to have stolen $6 billion from Kazakhstan’s BTA Bank.
The other billionaires in the Kazakhstan rich list are Alijan Ibragimov, … and Timur Kulibayev.
25 year old Alijan Ibragimov is one of four sons of oil baron , listed in the 400 richest people in the world, and lives in London where he has invested millions in oil and a health drink company.” Alijan Ibragimov is a prominent oligarch and part of the “Trio”, a circle of Kazakhstani oligarchs that include his business partners Alexander Mashkevich and Patokh Chodiev. Ibragimov has interests in many industries across Kazakhstan, including mining, oil & gas, and banking. Ibragimov has been ranked 382nd on Forbes’ list of world billionaires, with a net worth of $3.3billion. He lives with his wife and six sons in London.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/world-news/spy-in-bag-had-mysterious-links-to-kazakh-oil-oligarch/story-fndir2ev-1226545626323#ixzz2RU5Q6uj6
“Accused of the Boston bombings, The Tsarnaev’s, Uncle Ruslan Tsarni (Tsarnaev), of Montgomery Maryland, who so roundly condemned them in an emotional TV interview, graduated from Duke Law School in 1998 and is now a ‘well-connected’ oil executive and lawyer.”
“Uncle Ruslan appears to have links to a group of oil executives who, according to The London Telegraph, comprise “a network of personal and business relationships” allegedly used for “international corruption,” The “western company” used to launder the money which the Sunday Times referred to is Big Sky Energy Corporation, where Ruslan Tsarni was a top executive.
“Big Sky, which used to be known as China Energy Ventures Corp, is a now-bankrupt US oil company run by S.A. (Al) Sehsuvaroglu, a long-time executive of Halliburton, which had oil leases in Kakakhstan’s Caspian Basin.”
“Tsarni was Big Sky’s Corporate Secretary and Vice President for Business Development. He joined Big Sky in 2005.”
Uncle Ruslan is currently involved in an international criminal investigation into Timur Kulibayev, who has links to prince Andrew” http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/tsarnaevs-maryland-uncla-ruslan-work-for-halliburton-or-cia/
So we now have direct links from Gareth Williams through, Kulibayev, Ibragimov, Ruslan to the Tsarnaevs with for good measure Prince Andrew, CIA and MI6 thrown in for good measure along the way. Now hold to the view that this was a purely “Muslim terrorist attack”.
Too good. Too funny. Some 8 hours back, CNN was questioning why, if as now admitted, the younger bro was unarmed, did the police chief report a fierce firefight, 200 rounds exchanged, over several minutes. CNN is back in the guvmint corral (apologies in advance to horses, cowboys, equestrians if offended). DM pics reveal boat is indeed Swiss cheese of bullet holes, just like the alleged, official, shape-shifting story.
A CNN reporter now desperately spins, reminding us the first report was “fog of war” etc.
1: The boat was not in the secured perimeter. They didn’t consider the fiend might hide along the waterway. (In or out of the perimeter, what does that have to do with a firefight?)
2: Police worried he might have hostages. (In spite of thermal images of one and only one body inside the boat. 200 rounds, all from the police, would certainly have Swiss cheesed any hostages.)
3: We must not rush to judgment and condemn the police.
At least some of the police wanted him dead, dead, dead. Not unusual in a cop killing, where the suspect often meets with summary execution. If only one cop fired, intentionally or accidentally, it would set off a volley of gunfire from their side.
Police must have been astonished to find suspect still alive, no less than the suspect himself, only because he was on the other side of the engine.
CNN dropped all previous questions about the official documents read to the suspect in hospital, in which pics of him detonating by cell phone are part of the overwhelming evidence, conflicting with new accounts saying detonators were toy-car remotes.
The apologist loons explain everything away.
“THE MI6 code breaker who was found dead inside a sport’s bag in a London flat had reportedly been in contact with the son of a Kazakh oil oligarch.
Police in the UK are investigating Gareth Williams’ contact with Furkat Ibragimov, the son of a Kazakh billionaire, in the months leading up to his death Britain’s Daily Telegraph reports.
The 25 year old is one of four sons of oil baron Alijan Ibragimov, listed in the 400 richest people in the world, and lives in London where he has invested millions in oil and a health drink company. Just how they met and if Mr Ibragimov knew Mr Williams worked for MI6 is not known, though the pair are thought to have a mutual friend in Miss Elizabeth Guthrie.”
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/world-news/spy-in-bag-had-mysterious-links-to-kazakh-oil-oligarch/story-fndir2ev-1226545626323#ixzz2RUI9o56P
http://www.secinfo.com/dVs8j.z1h.htm
Didnt we have a long discussion with great links regarding Ibragimov/williams/al hilli here in this thread before? I am sure that i did submit some evidence but i cannot find it. Could somebody find this?
This link above is the final proof of the Kulibayev-Tsarnaev connection.
@Tim V 25 Apr, 2013 – 3:55 pm
“The British spy Gareth Williams was friends with Timur Kulibayev Kazakhstan’s President Nursultan Nazarbayev’s son-in-law, Timur Kulibayev…”
Forgot that connection. So many conspiracies, so little time. Good analysis of the “Two Governments”. Goes way back, but quietly under the radar, and if they’d succeeded in Hitler’s assassination, cheers all round. There was unanimous agreement on who was an enemy in those days.
@ bluebird 25 Apr, 2013 – 11:25 am
http://www.eurasiareview.com/21042013-boston-bombings-kyrgyz-former-neighbors-talk-about-tsarnaevs-north-caucasus-ties/
Excellent background info.
Take cover! The spin-machine is spinning out of control and unless it’s made of AQ Khan’s marging steel, with special groves machined in the bottom, we’re in greater danger than standing by the monkey cage at the zoo.
Now surviving bro confesses their impromptu post Boston plan was to bomb NYC Times Square. AnonCarjackVictim said he overheard them saying they were headed to Manhattan to party.
Suspect allegedly confirmed party remark in hospital interrogation pre-formal allegations and Miranda Warning. At which time he allegedly clammed up. Now we hear of further questioning, when he is more lucid (how lucid was he for initial interview) and confirming plans to bomb Times Square, info which can be used against him in court.
Color code alert: In press conference, NYC Mayor Bloomberg, who in light of Boston bombings said US must “reinterpret” the Constitution (not amend it) and accept greater surveillance, and NYC Police Commissioner are both wearing matching ORANGE ties. A raising of the threat alert? A Masonic gang-sign?
Mayor Bloomberg took the opportunity to call for more funds for more cameras everywhere. (With live feeds to Citizen-Stasi, uh Concerned Citizens Neigbourhood Watchers, as is done in the UK — and local councils complain bitterly that when they see something suspicious (every 15 minutes no doubt) and report it to their local police they can’t be bothered to check the same vid.)
Why is it that in the former USSR and East Germany it’s claimed people were forced to spy on each other? No force needed. People are delighted to spy on each other and report them for the most trivial offenses.
CNN dropped all ref to one bro seen detonating bomb with cell phone. But mentioned authorities can find no vid of one bro actually placing bag on ground — as described by eyewitness.
@Tim V 25 Apr, 2013 – 4:01 pm
“Just how they met and if Mr Ibragimov knew Mr Williams worked for MI6 is not known, though the pair are thought to have a mutual friend in Miss Elizabeth Guthrie.”
Ah yes, wealthy Ms. Guthrie, of three separate, unexplained identities.
The Tsarni background is getting even more exciting:
Quote:
Big Sky Energy expands its management team, Gaston appointed CFO
Big Sky Energy Corp. named Bruce H. Gaston CFO of the company, which is currently operating in Kazakhstan’s pre-Caspian basin. Gaston replaces Tom Milne, who will remain at Big Sky as a director of the corporation. Gaston has nearly 20 years’ experience with a background in Eurasia, and most recently worked with Deutsche Morgan Grenfell in London and Tokyo. He has been a finance and risk management consultant, a director of Deloitte & Touche Central Asia, and has considerable experience in risk management in global markets. Gaston received his BA from the University of New Brunswick and an MSc in economics from the University of London. Ruslan Z. Tsarni also joins Big Sky’s management team as vice president, business development and corporate secretary. Tsarni has 10 years of experience in oil and gas legislation and corporate law. His most recent position was that of corporate counsel of Nelson Resources Limited Group, while serving as managing director of many of its subsidiaries. Tsarni has counseled multinational companies on various facets of Kazakhstan legal issues.
http://www.ogfj.com/articles/print/volume-2/issue-4/energy-players/energy-players.html
This guy was his president with whom he was running the company (Big Al Sehsuvaroglu)
http://www.yatedo.com/p/S.A.+%28Al%29+Sehsuvaroglu/normal/151fb21fe238bf59f9642ab6b80ce051
Did you notice his nuclear background and his French company in Nice where he apparently luves?
Previously, Mr. Tsarni served as Corporate Counsel ofNelson Resources Limited Group of companies, as well as Managing Director of several of its operating subsidiaries, responsible for all matters relating to corporate governance and placements and filing requirements under the securities regulations of Toronto Stock Exchange and AIM.He worked with financial institutions and banks on raising funds for acquisition and development of the assets operated by Nelson’s subsidiaries, as well as managed legal and administrative matters for all such subsidiaries.From 1999 to 2001, Mr. Tsarni worked as Head of Legal Affairs of Golden Eagle Partners LLC where he developed downstream and upstream oil and gas businesses in Kazakhstan and served as Managing Director of its wholly owned subsidiary Tobe LLP.From 1998 to 1999 Mr. Tsarni worked as Senior Associate with Salans Hertzfeld & Heilbronn providing legal advise to major multinational companies on different aspects of Kazakhstan legal issues on development of mineral resources, corporations, taxation, currency, customs, employment, banking, bankruptcy and trade marks.From 1994 to 1996, Mr. Tsarni served as a consultant for Financial Markets International LLC and Arthur Andersen LLPcontracted by USAID for projects aimed to develop securities markets in Central Asia, where he trained corporate governance and corporate finance principals to state and private companies.
http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/profile/person?personId=648306606&targetid=profile
Full biography of Tsarni
I remember that Golden Eagle Partners LLC was once mentioned here in the al Hilli case or was it 9/11?
In a separate interview with CBS News, Alvi Tsarni said his nephew Tamerlan had called him on Thursday night, just hours before Tamerlan was killed, to apologise for ”problems between family”
http://www.theage.com.au/world/family-split-by-conflict-two-nephews-losers-20130420-2i735.html?skin=text-only
Sounds common like Saad and Zaid.
Family conflicts.
So then, Tamerlan phones only 3 hours before his death his uncle, a CIA agent and Halliburton oil field manager to excuse for the family problems? (Caused by whom? By their father?).
Could the phone call have been like that?
“Uncle, they are going to kill us! Please stop them! Please dont let them kill us. We excuse for what my father has done. Please forgive us and stop this. This is ridiculous. Please don’t retaliate to our family that cruelsome. Dont kill my little brother. Please! We are innocent.”
Previously, Mr. Tsarni served as Corporate Counsel ofNelson Resources Limited Group of companies, as well as Managing Director of several of its operating subsidiaries, responsible for all matters relating to corporate governance and placements and filing requirements under the securities regulations of Toronto Stock Exchange and AIM.He worked with financial institutions and banks on raising funds for acquisition and development of the assets operated by Nelson’s subsidiaries, as well as managed legal and administrative matters for all such subsidiaries.From 1999 to 2001, Mr. Tsarni worked as Head of Legal Affairs of Golden Eagle Partners LLC where he developed downstream and upstream oil and gas businesses in Kazakhstan and served as Managing Director of its wholly owned subsidiary Tobe LLP.From 1998 to 1999 Mr. Tsarni worked as Senior Associate with Salans Hertzfeld & Heilbronn providing legal advise to major multinational companies on different aspects of Kazakhstan legal issues on development of mineral resources, corporations, taxation, currency, customs, employment, banking, bankruptcy and trade marks.From 1994 to 1996, Mr. Tsarni served as a consultant for Financial Markets International LLC and Arthur Andersen LLP contracted by USAID for projects aimed to develop securities markets in Central Asia, where he trained corporate governance and corporate finance principals to state and private companies.
http://blendzpolitik.blogspot.com/2013/04/tsarnaevs-ties-to-big-oil-and-kazakhstan.html?m=1
Tsarni was also a senior associate for the law firm Salans Hertzfeld and Helibronn, now known as Salans LLP, of London. Founded in 1978 by two American lawyers, Carl Salans and Jeffrey Herzfeld, and a FRENCH lawyer, Eliane Heilbronn, Salans was the first Western law firm to enter post-Soviet Russia in 1991. Tsarni was also consultant Arthur Andersen. While working for Andersen and Financial Markets International LLC, Tsarni was contracted with the U.S. Agency for International Development to advise countries in transition like Kazakhstan and Ukraine on how to create derivatives markets, the lifeblood of the new “casino capitalism” that has brought ruin to so many nations. FMI has been active on behalf of the USAID in Ukraine, Russia, India, Romania, Nicaragua, West Bank/Gaza.It appears that Ruslan Tsarni has more connections with Big Oil than with U.S. intelligence agencies, although at times their operations abroad do overlap.
France and some Chechen Ibragimovs. One arrested in France.
http://www.chechencenter.info/n/44-european-news/2052-1.html
Alijan Ibragimov is …. grown up in Kyrgistan like the Tsarni (Tsarnaev) family and then moved to Kazahstan for gas, oil and mining business.
http://no1idea.blogspot.com/2010/11/alijan-ibragimov.html?m=1
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alijan_Ibragimov
Interesting thing in the Gareth Williams case. I said that there are many pieces of a puzzle but step by step those pieces are fitting together. Wasnt a FURKAT IBRAGIMOV the lover of Gareth Williams? Or is that just coincidence?
Berezovsky funding Chechnian terror?
Newsline – January 25, 2002
January 25, 2002Service (FSB) Director Nikolai Patrushev said during his visit to Chechnya on 24 January that his agency has information linking Berezovsky to “Chechen terrorists,” and will formally ask foreign security service services for any information they may have on the embattled oligarch’s involvement in such activities, Russian news agencies reported. Patrushev said the FSB is preparing an international warrant for Berezovsky’s arrest as well as materials “containing documented facts regarding Berezovsky’s bankrolling of terrorists.” The documents will be hand over to the “foreign partners” of FSB, added Patrushev. He described as “nonsense” Berezovsky’s repeated claims that he has proof that the FSB organized the bombings in August and September 1999 of apartment buildings in Moscow and Volgodonsk. VY…DETAINS TERRORIST/BUS DRIVERA resident of Chelyabinsk has been telephoning a number of foreign embassies in Moscow declaring that he represents “an extremist Islamic organization with ties to the Taliban,” according to a source in the FSB office in Chelyabinsk Oblast, ITAR-TASS reported on 23 January. The caller also claimed responsibility for the terrorist acts in New York and Washington and reportedly made political demands, which if not fulfilled would result in new terrorist acts. According to ITAR-TASS, the Chelyabinsk resident in question is an ethnic Tajik by the name of Furkat Ibragimov, who works as a trolley bus driver. According to ntvru.com, Ibragimov is being charged with making false reports about acts of terrorism, which could result in a maximum sentence of three years in prison. JAC
24/04-2012 / Politics
Authorities of Kyrgyzstan have become hostages of geopolitical fight of national interests between the U.S. and Russia in Central Asia – Kadyr Malikov
26/03-2012 / Politics
U.S. Assistant Secretary of State to arrive in Kyrgyzstan
21/02-2012 / Society
USA House of Representatives congressmen arrived in Kyrgyzstan
27/12-2011 / Society
USA have contributed over $1B to Kyrgyzstan for 20 years
07/10-2011 / CIS http://eng.24.kg/politic/2013/04/25/26765.html
“President of Kyrgyzstan is closely connected to the criminals.
On Friday, April 12 a scandal occurred by the report of MP Ismail Isakov and many internet publications in connection with the release of criminal authority Aziz Batukaev under the reason of severe illness. After the release he arrived in the “Manas” airport, being completely healthy and with the escort of Kyrgyz authorities from different structures through the VIP hall. The special plane “Challenger” with a flight to Grozny came after him. According to some sources, the plane was sent by the President of Chechnya Ramzan Kadyrov.
According to the people, close to Atambaev, Head of Russian Custom Service Belyalinov made a deal with Atambaev on the release of Aziz Batukaev by the urge of Kadyrov.
This fact was scandalously discussed by the press of KR and the parliament, as Batukaev is a very important person. Below are some views on this.
`Thief in law” ridiculed the judicial system of Kyrgyzstan and the entire political system of KR. Aziz Batukaev got out of Detention Center 4 on April 9 and on the same day he left for his historical motherland – Grozny, Chechnya. The operation “Freedom to Batukaev” was held by the help of Kyrgyz authorities. Who helped to release one of the most influential criminal authorities of CIS?” http://www.kchr.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5219
Said Batukaev was next door neighbour to the Tsarnaevs in the early 1990’s. “Organized crime boss Aziz Batukaev, who is also an ethnic Chechen, lived next door to the Tsarnaevs. Batukaev grew up and lived in Tokmok, but is now in Chechnya.” Purely co-incidental of course.
Tim v.
You won’t believe this, but billionaire Alijan Ibragimov grew up in Tokmok, too. He is about the age of Ruslan, Alvi and Anzar Tsarnaev.
Why do I mention Alijan Ibragimov?
Like Tsarni he went to Kazahstan, uniting with Kulibayev and managing Kazah oil fields and mining for Americans, particularly for Cheney’s Halliburton, and for British BP.
However, particularly i mention him Simply because his son Furkat was the friend of Gareth Williams.
One piece of puzzle fits into the next one!
Btw, Tokmok is not like NYC. Tokmok has got just 50.000 inhabitants. It is rather like Newtown or Peoria.
The Tsarnaev family is famous and reknown in Tokmok. People said that most guys from the Tsarnaev clan did work for the SECURITY business.
Despite the media slant (this is more alqueda terrorism) the Tsarnaev brothers who are in the frame, do not fit the extremist mould in any way. They are much more closely aligned to CIA through Uncle wheeled out for TV interview (apropos WBM?) whilst taxi driver disappears (apropos the first responders and forester at Chevaline?) and to criminal elements in Kazakhstan. The premature release of their criminal neighbour it is thought at the insistence of Chechen Russian puppet President, introduces a further twist. As in the JFK assassination what we appear to be seeing is international crime and state interests/SIS working in concert to cause mayhem and offering up convenient hedonistic individuals as convenient scapegoats. The question is how does this further US interests in Kazakhstan or elsewhere?
and I am sure no one missed the Halliburton/Cheny/Bush connection above. (American tax payers send a billion dollars to Kazakhstan, a good proportion of which goes in bribes to the political/criminal elite. In return Halliburton get the oil thus benefiting the American political/criminal elite.Helpfully the “bombers” Uncle Ruslan works for Halliburton. Is that right or have I been terribly mislead?
NR, can you explain why both brothers seem to share the same hoodie, or not? The hoodie has this logo:
http://www.down4sound.com/forum/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0gjMeArgY4
I went looking to see if it was connected to Indy Audio Labs, but found nothing. Never mind.
Fascinating connection (as always) BB
(Bluebird
26 Apr, 2013 – 12:25 am.) We might be able to tie all these threads together yet. Where’s that maths genius who always used to give us the statistical odds against all of this happening by chance alone?
BTW, NR, it occurred to me that advice on batteries, etc., could be gleaned from that down4sound forum. People who seem to know a lot about audio systems seem to end up in or near deadly explosions for some reason.