The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
I used Trotsky’s birth name as a bit of a tease NR
2 May, 2013 – 11:28 am but there was also a serious point. First, that he was of a Ukrainian Jewish family though not necessarily practising. That chimes with the discussion in here of the ex-patriot Iraqi Jewish community that may or may not include individuals of interest here. Then the method of execution. Cut throats and ice picks certainly suggest a preferred Muslim method and a classic Stalinist one. Tamelin might be a prime suspect subsequent to the Boston bombing, but there is nothing to say the murder of his friend, was not carried out by his Chechen criminal fraternity (Muslim and communist) in the well-worn horse’s-head-in-the-bed syndrome, it may have been used to ensure compliance of the Tsarnaevs. It is not even beyond the realm of possibility that an agency would do it for the same reason but in a way that may point elsewhere.
The new Airbus a350, EADS, CEZUS, problems ….. Boeing ?
That ties in eveyone there doesn’t it ?
There must be an “answer” we are missing ?
Mollier ????
The DNA parallel is notable Q
2 May, 2013 – 5:51 pm. In both cases DNA results used not to identify but to confuse. Again we have to ask, why in the French case, notoriously secretive – not even releasing what could have been a useful photograph of living people with the simply preposterous excuse that it would be “too morbid” – why it would announce the DNA bungle at all? A disclosure can be as revealing as a refusal to disclose. The lab results could have been kept as a confidential part of the investigation. No one needed to know how many different DNA results there were let alone announce a major breakthrough immediately followed by a retraction. Two explanations occur to me (probably many more exist): the DNA results were genuine and had to be undermined because they pointed to murderer who was actually being protected or it was essential to undermine the DNA evidence generally so that limited inference could be drawn from it. In both Boston and Chevaline the circumstances and the way in which they appear to be investigated, appear highly suspect.
I tried to post this last night but the site wouldn’t respond I was advised so I will try again now.
Boston and Chevaline may not be directly connected but the inconsistencies in story line have a familiar ring. Tamerlan Tsarnaev struck and by implication killed by his brother Dzhokhar running over him, when a photo of a naked Tamerlan in police custody after the event, exists. (You will remember police blame Al Hilli for injuries to SM when it appears quite impossible from the geometry/location of the vehicle and position of bodies). Then we have the two hour shoot out with his brother in the boat, yet a photo exists of him climbing out of it and no gun was recovered from him or the boat. The rather “convenient” bullet in the throat that might be expected to seriously interfere with his ability to speak. Tamerlan clearly died at some point AFTER he was arrested. Of course this might be explained by delayed trauma but unlikely given medical care. There are the recorded voices of them shouting several times whilst being fired upon that it wasn’t them and requesting the police “chill”. The firing continues. The case of the shot policeman that strangely mirrors Lee Harvey Oswald. The very suspicious looking security(?) men in the Boston crowd with VERY large rucksacks and identical clothing (uniform) with khaki trousers and military style boots. Also distinctive earpiece that no FBI/CIA asset can go out without. No one has claimed them which in itself is suspicious. As I have said before these ppl are lazy and unimaginative. Rather pull out an old plan than invent a new one. LHO was used. If you are to throw the blame, the subject(s) must be CONVINCING material. Silent families not quite working this time despite expectations given their CIA/RBS they might have been. The brothers had money clearly but no obvious source. What’s the betting the American taxpayer paid them via untraceable intermediaries? So clear perpetrators who were intent on doing the same in New York quickly identified, captured – oops killed. Frighten the general public shitless. Get them used to city lock-down and rampaging quasi paramilitaries entering properties without warrant (I think this was a FIRST) more surveillance cameras, anti scrutiny legislation passes on the nod, US/Israeli bonds strengthened, Muslim terror further reinforced, a huge ammonium nitrate explosion killing devastating hardly considered. Yup altogether job well done. Someone’s bullet points (pun apologies yet again) all ticked.
And what if the Ammonium Nitrate plant explosion was intended to be used as the 9/11 incident. Certainly had the appearance of a nuclear explosion mushroom. Could the relatively less serious but high profile Boston event have been intended to take attention away from what was a much more serious incident at West? Just thinking aloud here but we have to imagine the situation if Boston hadn’t happened. West would have been the main story. As it was it hardly got any attention from the press despite widespread devastation and death. I made the suggestion a few weeks ago whenever an aircraft comes down we should ask who was on it. Perhaps we should ask the same question of West?
“WEST, Texas (AP) — Investigators working to figure out what caused a massive, deadly fertilizer plant explosion in Texas have talked to more than 370 people and received more than 200 tips as they continue to search for a breakthrough.
Two weeks after the April 17 blast that killed at least 14 people, agents compare their work to solving a puzzle or completing an archaeological dig.
“We’re trying to find the critical piece,” said Chris Connealy, the state fire marshal, on Thursday.
Their work is complex for several reasons: the magnitude of the blast at West Fertilizer, which knocked out windows and rooftops all over the tiny town of West and registered as a small earthquake; the deaths of 10 first responders and two others who volunteered to help; and the spread of debris as far as two miles away.
Agents are using digital mapping of the plant, rakes, shovels and front-end loaders to sift through dirt and rubble over an approximately 15-acre site. Possible bits of evidence are being catalogued and tested.”http://news.yahoo.com/officials-no-breakthrough-yet-texas-explosion-202412169.html
I wonder if it will be treated in the same way as the WTC or differently?
and ref above discussion of MZ what’s this?
“Lucid Dream Mask Turns Bedtime into Inception”
Came up after the Boston item. Some clever person on here might know. And have you noticed how much more nuanced Obama’s comments are?
Mercaders in Mercedes? Those photos and observations @ http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU certainly raise the usual doubts. The agencies really haven’t got up to speed with the new internet age. Would any of the official story have been subject to challenge before it. Taking ppl into custody and then shooting them smacks of the worst excesses of a fascist state. This certainly seems to be the case of both brothers. And the question i posed back along about pictures of them AFTER the explosions seems to partly answered. Yes it does seem they still have their backpacks whilst walking away. And you know how big a pressure cooker is? Neither shown back pack appears either big enough or the right shape to me, in fact as someone who uses one constantly it would be hard to get a saucepan in let alone the bigger pressure type. The detachment of navy seals/blackwater guys complete with logo DO have much larger ones though that could hold such. These men are not even admitted by spokespeople. Ah now there is a clue.
A Chinese joke/catchphrase, useful describing every event we’ve discussed:
“Yuan Fang, ni zen me kan? – Yuanfang, What Do You Think?”
“Di Renjie: Yuan Fang, what do you think?”
“Yuan Fang: Your majesty, I think it is queer.”
“The above dialogue comes from a popular Chinese TV series called Amazing Detective Di Renjie and happened between Di Renjie and his deputy to show internal discussion about a case. The reason why it is re-used in Chinese daily life came after an obvious murder was ruled a suicide by Chinese police in Quanzhou, Zhejiang province. A netizen suspected there must be something that had to be hidden to protect the police. Afterwards, this catchphrase began being used to express suspicion and how ridiculous a situation is.”
http://advertising.chinasmack.com/2013/top-10-chinese-buzzwords-of-the-last-year.html
@Ferret 2 May, 2013 – 9:41 pm
Welcome back too. “Re the Lamberts, I can’t be arsed to go over to MZT to find the nuggets.”
It’s near impossible to find old comments on CM or MZT. Archives usually not in search engines — both nobots for a reason? — and no in-site search. The Lamberts were a minor diversion. MZT folk tried to find credible cave and waterfall. Most were on other side of valley — one waterfall the Martinet side. He might have exaggerated their connection to the story.
One fact that came of Alexander’s vid journey and new posters at MZT is that the barrier above Martinet is seldom, if ever, in place. Though ONF enforces posted rules — car/bike/MB/hike — for roads/trails.
From US Drudge Report, if of interest:
“… search collapsed buildings for survivors after a disaster, sample an environment for hazardous chemicals before humans are sent in, or pinpoint enemy soldiers or terrorists holed up in urban areas.” [Spying on citizens not mentioned.]
http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/0502/Flight-of-the-RoboBee-Tiny-hovering-robot-creates-buzz
But we’re saved by this. Tim V, you’ll want one:
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/05/01/tiny-device-will-detect-domestic-drones
“FBI now says suspect yelled ‘Jesus,’ not ‘Jihad’ during Dallas airport trespass…” and “High Schooler Arrested After Posting ‘Terrorist Threats’ on Facebook… photos included the caption, “F— politics, F— Obama and F— the government!!” His page also contained a Satanic photo.” [Not Satan too! Can we still yell, “Blessed Green Goddess Mother Nature”.]
“SHERIFF: ‘We want people to call us if guy down street hates government’…” [Stasi coming to a neighbourhood near you.]
http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/bradshaw-gets-1-million-for-violence-prevention-un/nXbs4/
“US would rather kill suspects than send them to Cuban detention centre.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/02/us-drone-strikes-guantanamo
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-01/russia-s-20-biggest-billionaires-keep-riches-from-putin.html
Today’s Boston story: Bros built bombs in Tamerlan’s and wife’s apartment. The one originally said to be shared by bros. Comment on infowars.com “If the cooker in that apartment was conclusive, why wasn’t it seized as part of evidence when the police went in and claimed nothing of substance was found there? Why is this place not guarded and sealed if the authorities believe bomb making activity took place there?”
They were delighted to have media in to illustrate how filthy, low-life, Chechen terrorists lived — dirty clothes and dishes. How could wife not have known of bomb-making living there with baby? CNN still spinning, “She worked 70-80 hours a week”. Neighbours said she was there much more time, loud arguments at night. (Arguments like, “The red wire goes there. No it doesn’t you fool!)
Has anyone suggested she might be expert bomb maker trained by Skull n Bones connections? Totally sexist to exclude her as a principal.
Dzhokhar allegedly told interrogators (they’re letting each item drip out slowly) that they intended to do suicide bombs for July 4 in Boston, but when they saw how easy it was to make them they advanced plan to Marathon. Easy to make? With complicated toy-car detonators. How did they know they were easy to make if the didn’t test them. Allegedly all inventory worked flawlessly, incl. pipe bombs and home made grenades.
Two or more versions of every story. Tamerlan was run over by his bro / by police / not run over at all / executed by police.
They shot MIT cop / or didn’t, no evidence of that yet except confession to carjacked Danny.
There are serious debunking pages where members make honest attempts to explain perceived conspiracies and on some points they are absolutely stumped.
CNN had solemn, former, network news anchor, Dan Rather reminding us of fog-of-war, conflicting stories, we must wait for completed investigation, etc. (In 3 or 4 years when people have forgotten details and CIA concocts science to explain anomalies). The Benghazi investigation is going well. Apparently the original investigation is so flawed/corrupt the State Department Inspector General must now investigate the investigators. Then who will investigate the IG?
James,
You did not provide a link in your last message Did you mean that?
European production. We conduct our operations in Europe primarily through our wholly owned subsidiaries, TIMET UK, Ltd. and Loterios S.p.A., and our 70% owned subsidiary, TIMET Savoie. TIMET UK’s Witton laboratory and manufacturing facilities are leased pursuant to long-term operating leases expiring in 2014 and 2024, respectively. TIMET UK’s melting facility in Witton produces VAR ingot used primarily as feedstock for our Witton forging operations. TIMET UK forges the ingot into billet products for sale to third parties or into an intermediate product for further processing into bar or plate at our facility in Waunarlwydd. TIMET UK’s melting and mill products production in 2008 was approximately 81% and 61%, respectively, of annual practical capacity, and we expect lower utilization in 2009. In mid-2008 we completed construction of a new VAR furnace at our Witton location, which increased our European VAR capacity by approximately 2,000 metric tons.TIMET Savoie has the right to utilize portions of the Ugine plant of Compagnie Européenne du Zirconium-CEZUS, S.A. (“CEZUS”), the 30% minority partner in TIMET Savoie, pursuant to a conversion services agreement which runs through 2015. TIMET Savoie’s capacity is to a certain extent dependent upon the level of activity in CEZUS’ zirconium business, which may from time to time provide TIMET Savoie with capacity in excess of that which CEZUS is contractually required to provide. Our agreement with CEZUS provides for the expansion of the maximum annual melt capacity that CEZUS is contractually required to provide to us to 2,900 metric tons for three years following the capacity implementation in late 2008. During 2008, TIMET Savoie utilized 97% of the maximum annual capacity CEZUS was contractually required to provide, and we expect to utilize less than the maximum annual capacity CEZUS is required to provide in 2009.
ttp://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/EFX_dll/EDGARpro.dll?FetchFilingHtmlSection1?SectionID=6442477-8399-87565&SessionID=K3BFWjneTZgJaP7
@Tim V 3 May, 2013 – 1:38 am
“what’s this? “Lucid Dream Mask Turns Bedtime into Inception””
Read quickly that lucid dreaming is when you control or guide your dream or are aware you’re inside a dream. Some people learn the technique from instructions. The lucid dream masks,
US$200-300, supposedly speed the learning by detecting signals — brain waves or Rapid Eye Movement?? — and output light and sound feedback cues. Users say it works for some people, not for others.
Suggested reading at MZT. A new motive. Fits with previous theories here at CM. At first glance it explains much.
Peter 5-2-2013 at 20:55:33
Oui 5-2-2013 at 23:18:05
See_Bee 5-3-2013 at 00:32:08
http://www.marilynztomlins.com/articles/chevaline-shootings-saad-al-hilli-sylvain-mollier-brett-martin-philippe-d-xavier-baligant-2/
NR
I made a lot if comments regarding Philippe Brett.
I also said that a secret must be found when we knew more about the Marechal murder.
Was he stabbed with an ice pick?
This whole thing was mist likely about ransom money for Iraqi abduction of Feench citizens and ransom money paid to criminal gangs from French tax money with kickbacks from the ransom money then paid to corrupt Chirac and his political party. There were millions paid to negotiators such as Philippe Brett and his team. Were did all the other money go?
Bluebird.
Pretty much !
You see the important “thing” for aircraft manufacturers is make planes that can use less fuel. So you wnat to make aircraft “lighter”….and get more in them. That’s how you pay the bills.
What links Martin (Boeing) with Al Hilli (Airbus, EADS) and Mollier (CEZUS)…..is TimeT. That is the only link through.
That and the use of Titanium of course.
Timet is CEZUS and works for two fierce rivals. Boeing and Airbus.
Both of those are “rushing” to out do the other. Both are facing tech issues.
Put it this way… The DH 106 Comet.
That “did” the British Aircraft industry.
But you don’t want planes falling from the sky. That would we unbelievable. Yet in “manufacture”, could there be “delays” ?
To be fair, I am clutching at straws. But just trying to find something that links them all together.
Going slightly on from that. WBM must have been the person that identified the 4×4 as a U.K. plated BMW X5. It is believed that no one else was on that route at that time. (Approx 15.28, 2K’s from the carpark)…
Therefore he has either “recalled” it was a U.K plated vechicle …and “recalled” the make and model.
At this time (in a “straight” investigation) it would be a very bad thing to “recall”….as the police spotlight would turn on you !
Or this information was “known” to the police and not released.
Maybe as part of the investigation (a cunning plan ! etc).
Either way, Martin was confident to “go public” when he must of known that the “killer or kills” had MOST LIKELY driven past him.
Why such confidence ? I’d want round the clock guards.
Did Martin know he would be safe ?
Did Martin believe the killer would be caught quickly ?
Clearly now it can be seen that his interview was a “PR” event designed to put a face (and a name) to the “ex RAF man” (note, not ex Boeing Capt). There was no information given out that may have been considered to be “an appeal for witnesses”.
Makes the “interview” look even stranger now.
Yea pleased to see you too Ferret
2 May, 2013 – 9:41 pm. Don’t leave it all to us especially now you’re NVQ’d (National Vocational Qualification) So they do one in Dirty Tricks?
and welcome back too Marlin, James, Mochyn and any other stay-aways
someone needs to keep flagging up the false ones
First, a disclaimer. This Q is not affiliated with any other Q individuals or organizations.
Next, a bunch of loose ends. As we recall when the Boston drama was unfolding, police moved at one point from a house they had staked out to a garage, where D. Tsarnaev was said to be holed up. The pack of journalists within the roped-off zone were in hot pursuit. That alone is questionable. Why let them in on the pursuit at all, since the entire city was in lockdown? Can we assume that the garage was the one that is no longer in business: i.e. the defunct garage that supposedly belongs to the much-tattooed and ringed Gilberto Junior, where D. Tsarnaev took his Mercedes for repair? According to the links I posted yesterday, Mr. Junior’s garage must have been closed for a year, and yet the journos at the scene interviewed him in front of sign with the Junior Autobody name and phone number on it. Not one of them noticed that the garage is under a different name, and has even been hastily and poorly painted on one side only? Why not interview the current owner, “Farid””? Did D. Tsarnaev leave his Mercedes in the garage for a year, and then show up to claim it from the previous owner, who was wandering the streets looking for paparazzi to interview him? How could the ex-Brazilian who favors large dark sunglasses have been found so quickly, and why did D. Tsarnaev drop his car off at a defunct garage? Thus we come to the photos of D. Tsarnaev getting out of the boat. Was this whole charade a distraction for what was really going on back at the previously staked-out house? Why didn’t any of the journo pack stay behind to watch the house? There is something strange about that whole scenario. Was this thing planned a year ahead? Who really is behind that garage, and whose side are they on? What really goes on there? As we know, the garage was a dead end, and no Tsarnaev was found inside. However, Gilberto Junior was there, eager to grant interviews: a reverse paparazzi. Small point: mechanic wearing rings? Most don’t, due to risk of losing a finger at work.
Another point. The Mercedes lifestyle of the Tsarnaevs is now being touted as an example of welfare fraud by some websites. All that shoplifting is part of the picture of typical welfare fraudsters, we are led to believe. No champagne and caviar dreams, just stolen dresses and Mercedes. Let’s get riled up about welfare fraud.
Some of the many theories out there now include a coverup for Saudi involvement, a body being switched for the student who “suicided”, and the Saudi who was originally said to be feting it up a hospital in the company of Mrs. O., quietly leaving the country.
@ Tim V: Apparently there was a sale on beige khakis, maybe at Lord & Taylor, because all those MIBlack jackets and emergency personnel in white jackets were wearing them. Some have revealed the startling resemblance between three men who were cops at Sandy Hook, and those crafty men at the Boston Marathon. A blonde woman is also shown to “be” a teacher from Sandy Hook, who cries without tears, and a person from the Boston marathon who was interviewed with the elderly man who fell down. That is Kaitlyn Roig/Rebecca Roche.
The French approach to such matters seems to be different. Let the case fade away. Let conflicting “facts” and inconvenient inconsistencies remain unexplained, or even add to the confusion. Announce defeat at the outset, then set out to prove yourself correct. They don’t seem to be getting much scrutiny at all from the public. A different mindset among the citizens of France: acceptance, apathy and resignation? The strategy suits the setting?
And you have to wonder if journos worldwide are reading here. After posting about the Toronto 18 plot from 2006, what do you know: there they were, being arrested unloading fertilizer on the TV news last night, in a story related to the current Canadian train-bombing plot. The clip shown was part of the RCMP sting, part of which was in a video clip posted here. That plot involved an ammonium nitrate explosion that never happened, unlike West, Texas stage.
Off-Topic – Boston: Wait another sec. The alleged bomber bros original target was Boston July 4 celebration using suicide bombs, but they advanced date because they discovered how easy it was to make bombs. Suicide bombs don’t need elaborate toy-car remote controls as detonators.
After finding, “how easy it is” to make a variety of explosive devices out of common household things, incl. Vaseline, plus retail firecrackers, and presumably testing all those, they then add a whole level of complexity that require retesting with toy-car remotes, including on-site (Marathon) test of reliable signal range.
Using Chinese joke from above” “Your majesty, I think it is queer.”
I don’t think anyone has mentioned this yet. Isn’t it curious that Rendition & Extradition Air had some exotic destinations that seem to be vital elements of current news? Is rendition off the table due to highly-public consequences?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/11/04/us-italy-renditions-verdict-idUSTRE5A33QB20091104
Meanwhile, this story is intriguing:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/03/us-usa-explosion-texas-idUSBRE94206020130503
Meth-heads helping themselves to the unlocked pantry at West, Texas?
The amount of product placement in the Boston bombings is remarkable. The garage owner wears an Adidas ballcap. Mother Tsarnaeva stands accused of shoplifting from Lord & Taylor. Obscure car audio website D4S has its hoodies on the air 24/7. Even 7-11, Shell and Mobil get publicity. Meanwhile a T-shirt made by a well-known athletic company, deemed highly offensive after the bombings, is posted for sale on an online auction site at a ridiculous price, before being withdrawn.
From Reuters link on rendition, above:
“Of course it was an illegal operation. But that’s our job. We’re at war against terrorism.”
Q 7.04 Article by Eric Moskowitz can be reached at [email protected]. (Jewish Russian connection?)
It’s a very full description of events in that car. It rather reminds me of the WBM script – appearing to be detailed but on examination lacking substance and raising questions. What and how did a recent visa immigrant from China manage payments on a top of the range Mercedes ML 350 (http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mercedes-benz/m-class/first-drives/mercedes-ml350-bluetec) price at least £45000. OK he had rich parents in China. Then why not remain in the land of opportunity?
Let’s accept he’s genuine and his report accurate we have an old sedan pulling up behind him, “old sedan swerved behind him”, Tamerlan Tsarnaev (TT) gets out and taps on his passenger window and manages to get inside. He admits to killing the MIT policeman only 30 minutes before, yet appears quite calm. The Chinese victim seems to take this in his stride. He reports nothing unusual about his assailant – not sweating or blood splattered, or breathing heavily – just that he had a gun and admitting to the murder and bomb blast. This also appears strange. If their plan was a bombing expedition, would it not be sensible to keep quiet about these events and treat it just as a car hi-jacking?
He says Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (DT) follows behind in the sedan (not the Tsarnaev’s Mercedes you notice) to another location where items (heavy items) are transferred.
“Directed to a quiet neighborhood in East Watertown, Danny pulled up as told on an unfamiliar side street. The sedan stopped behind him. A man approached — the skinnier, floppy-haired “Suspect No. 2” in the photos and videos released by investigators earlier that evening — and Tamerlan got out, ordering Danny into the passenger seat, making it clear if he tried anything he would shoot him. For several minutes, the brothers transferred heavy objects from the smaller car into Danny’s SUV.” So they leave “the sedan” there, TT drives and DT sits in the back. They drive around to a cash machine, and a (closed) petrol station before returning to the parked sedan to transfer more stuff. (Note: by this time “Danny” has seen the sedan three times at least but never identifies it as a Mercedes)
“Doubling back, they returned to the Watertown neighborhood — “Fairfield Street,” Danny saw on the sign this time — and grabbed a few more things from the parked car, but nothing from the trunk.”
This sounds suspect. If they were on a well planned bombing mission/murder spree would they not have transferred all they required in one go before setting off in earnest for their New York destination? Why take a chance of returning to a vehicle that may have been reported, identified and staked out? Why leave behind incriminating items on the first depart? Has this sedan been located and examined by police? It is not, presumably the second car at the ultimate shoot-out.
“Dzhokhar went to fill up using Danny’s credit card, but quickly knocked on the window. “Cash only,” he said, at least at that hour. Tamerlan peeled off $50.” So was this an automated system they were using or a cashier. If the latter clearly a witness. Have we heard about him/her? “Danny” makes his escape at this point but apparently leaves behind his mobile phone on which he had been talking to friends. You may consider this strange also.
I’ve not had a chance to tie this into the vehicles at the final shoot-out at which DT is alleged to have run over his brother. Was this in Danny’s Mercedes or another? Maybe someone else can elucidate as in Chevaline the devil is in the detail and exposes lies if there are any.
Of course Danny’s story may be accurate. The BIG question is though, if so were the two individuals who hi-jacked his car the Tsarnaev brothers or look-a-likes acting for someone else?
@NR 6:29 a.m.: Maybe all the prison ships are full.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_ship
@ Tim V, 4:07 pm: Thanks. I’d forgotten to mention Mercedes and the product placement of its wonderful new satellite-tracking system, which was used to find the perps in this investigation. Also forgot to mention the various phones which were used by the perps and their victims, but why no mention of the secure and encrypted, military-approved Blackberry used by the catchers of said perps.
The brothers were terribly inept at using debit cards, but then I guess you can’t buy Mercedes with a debit card. I guess you wouldn’t pay cash for one at the dealership, either: too likely to attract attention. Surely they’d filled up those Mercedes with gas at the stations in their hood and knew the rules, or did they just get a new one every time the tank was empty? Awfully odd about the $50, as some stations have rules about no $50s, and some don’t make change or even take cash at night. Best to fill up in the daytime, and hope that when you jack a car, the owner has not outwitted you by intentionally driving on a near-empty tank, just in case.
So they were either suave and sophisticated nouveau-riche immigrants with all the trappings of success, like fancy clothes, cars, cellphones and enough laptops to throw away, or they were bumpkins who barely grasped the rules in the promised land. Which is it? They can’t be both.
nOW ONE FURTHER OBSERVATION BEFORE i MUST TEAR MYSELF AWAY. In those images of TT post mortem (I am taking them as genuine)
(@ http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU about a third of the way down)
there are two highly unusual symmetrical injuries to the left and ride side of his chest.
My guess is that these are autopsy incisions to remove samples from organs. This may be standard practise in US I don’t know. I think in UK a central incision would be more likely. Any pathologists in who could shed light?
“The BIG question is though, if so were the two individuals who hi-jacked his car the Tsarnaev brothers or look-a-likes acting for someone else?”
Good question, Tim V. If they were doppelgangers, this might explain the simultaneous robbery that occurred when the Tsarnaevs were trying to pay for gas, or buy junk food in the convenience story, or whatever that convoluted story was. In any case, the robbery, or not, is long forgotten. It was over the top, and was dropped.