The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
The only explanation I can come up with is that Saad was an informant/agent runner for 5 or 6 and Mollier was his asset, Saad was probably receiving intelligence about dodgy dealings in the French nuclear field or information or people of interest?
Brett Martin was probably his guard/chaperone either from the Increment or UKN, they may have been using his House and expertise in flying!
I think Martin screwed up a gave Al-Hilli and his family a bit too much space and maybe the killers noticed this window of opportunity in which they could silence both parties and the family was considered collateral!
I think that Saad and his handlers knew that they were being watched and that is why he also had his family with him as he thought this would add protection as the killers would risk blowing their cover!
Saad was probably parked in the layby using it as anti-surveillance trap to see if he was being followed.
Let’s see it that way:
That is the same system that Lawrence of Arabia did invent to bribe the al Saud family (until today). Let the corrupt earn bribery money by giving them the chance for kickbacls in huge economic deals. Of course, for such kickbacks you need a good Meyer Lansky accountant to launder that money.
In return, the corrupt would have power and influence in their country and they will support those who gave them the power, wealth and money. That system still is working well with the al Saud family since nearly 100 years.
Rafsanjani clan (clerics/ grand ayatollah): MI6 asset
Larinjani clan (Najaf clerics, Ayatollah): MI6 asset
Al Hilli clan (Najaf clerics, grand Ayatollah) : MI6 asset
Bahmani/Mirza clan (former Persian Royals): MI6 asset
al Saffar clan (former Persian Royals): MI6 asset
Pahlevi clan (former Persian Royals): MI6 asset
Mousavi: MI6 assett
Manucher Ghorbanifar: MI6/CIA and French assett (Iranian weapons dealer from France)
Just as a sidenote (Both the al Hilli shariah clerics and the al Saffar Royals were supporting to bring Shia Islam into Iran). Without them there would not be Shia Islam in Iran.
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2009/06/some-dots-you-may-connect.html
“Mousavi, a politician who had been out of power for twenty years, entered the race at almost the last moment. The poll showed he didn’t even come close to Ahmadinejad amongst his own ethnic group.”Ahmadinejad is considered to be personally completely non-corrupt, while a major supporter of Mousavei, Hashemi Rafsanjani, is infamous in Iran for hiscorruption.”Mousavi is also good pals withManucher Ghorbanifar!”Remember the meeting in Rome with Ledeen in which they cooked up the trickery which led to the disastrous American attack on Iraq?”Remember the Niger documents?”The connections to corruption and to the neocons make Mousavi’s recent actions quite understandable.
http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_56031.shtml
He said unlike Iraq there is no need for a military campaign. “Our most potent weapons are the peoples of Syria and Iran and they are primed, loaded and ready to fire. We should now pull the political lanyards and unleash democratic revolution on the terror masters in Damascus and Tehran.”
This is a quite interesting piece one should know regarding intelligence “double think” and reality. There is no “black or white” only.
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a1998huntingheroin
In July 2006, fighting breaks out in southern Lebanon between the Israeli military and Hezbollah. Western intelligence officials soon learn that Victor Bout, the world’s biggest illegal arms dealer, has been spotted in a Hezbollah military building in Lebanon. Officials also discover that Richard Chichakli, Bout’s longtime business partner, has recently moved from the US to Damascus, Syria. Israeli officials suspect that Bout arms Hezbollah with sophisticated Russian-made armor-piercing antitank missiles. [FARAH AND BRAUN, 2007, PP. 254] Bout’s role is not confirmed at the time. But in 2008, journalist Douglas Farah, co-author of a 2007 book on Bout, will tell ABC News that recent intelligence indicates Bout did supply the armor-piercing missiles to Hezbollah. [ABC NEWS, 3/6/2008] In 2006, Bout’s network is also supplying the US military in Iraq (see Late April 2003-2007).
New York Times Magazine publishes an article based on an interview with Victor Bout, the world’s biggest illegal arms dealer. Bout worked extensively with the Taliban in the years before 9/11, and because of this, he claims, “I woke up after Sept. 11 and found I was second only to Osama,” in terms of being a wanted criminal. But he hints that he has powerful connections.
“My clients, the governments… I keep my mouth shut.” He also points to the middle of his forehead and adds, “If I told you everything I’d get the red hole right here.” When asked about his possible ties to Russian intelligence, he says, “Until now you’ve been digging in a big lake with small spoons. There are huge forces…”
He breaks his sentence, and explains to the reporter that he cannot explain too much about what the report calls “the triangulated relationship between him, governments, and his rogue clients.” An unnamed British arms investigator claims, “Bout is encouraged by Western intelligence agencies when it’s politically expedient.” Bout, a Russian, is interviewed in Moscow, where “he lives in plain sight… under the apparent protection of a post-Communist system that has profited from his activities as much as he has.” [NEW YORK TIMES MAGAZINE, 8/17/2003] It will later be alleged that Bout began working with US intelligence shortly after 9/11, if not before, despite being the main arms dealer to the Taliban (see Shortly After September 11, 2001).
The “forgotten” Persian Royals, another deep and long lasting MI6 asset.
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a1998huntingheroin
I wonder whether or not the cyclists were another MI6 joke and a hidden hint to the “knowing ones” in the british royalty:
Princess Monavvareh “Shazdeh” Khanom posing on a bicycle. The Bahmans were especially affected by bicycles first introduced in Iran at the end of the 19th century. Princess Shazdeh Khanom married her cousin Prince Seyf od-Din Mirza Bahmani-Qajar and had two daufghters: Princess Monavvareh Khanom and Princess Monireh Khanom Bahmani.
Sorry
Wrong link pasted in the 12:21 post
Here s the right one:
http://www.zarrinkafsch-bahman.org/6.html
Quality posts BB, so factually dense, I have a job getting my head round them. They are for serious analysts only and leave the discussion on MZT in the pale. (God knows how James manages yet strangely does not complain. Why could this be? “I think we should be told” lol) The fact of the matter is that the goings on in the world are enormously complex and largely out of sight of the general public who are kept in the dark fed on a mish-mash of fiction and fantasy. Recent events have proved how sensitive and simply intolerable to public scrutiny, the truth actually is.
Are we not shocked that the United States has dropped all pretence to legal due process in favour of Mafia-style killings around the world. The CIA always had close links with the Mafia guys and used them as in the JFK assassination, but at least they denied it! Now it is mainstream policy and we still have faith in the “Special Relationship”?
This and Israel’s record of State assassination cannot be overlooked in the Chevaline case. Both countries have to be prime suspects by virtue of this and all the other circumstantial incriminating factors. Both have remained eerily silent over the incident, although as my Canadian friend observed “Why should they if not involved?”
As to bribery and corruption western states take a deeply hypocritical position. As the Matrix Churchill and BAE cases illustrated, Government on the one hand claims to prohibit bribery to secure contracts, whilst knowing exactly what is going on, and if push comes to shove will protect it.
I always remember a lift I had with a then British Leyland executive many years ago who told me that about 50% of any contract to Africa was taken up with bribes. There is no reason to believe, and your examples prove it, that anything has fundamentally changed with time.
“I wonder whether or not the cyclists were another MI6 joke and a hidden hint to the “knowing ones” in the british royalty:
Princess Monavvareh “Shazdeh” Khanom posing on a bicycle. The Bahmans were especially affected by bicycles first introduced in Iran at the end of the 19th century. ”
I like it BB.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/08/201382163812810810.html
“Hundreds reported killed in Syria gas attack
Opposition groups say hundreds killed when government forces fired rockets with chemical warheads into Damascus suburbs.”
the big question: who dropped the cannisters? is it possible the Syrian Government would do this under the noses of UN chemical weapons team in the capital? Are they or someone else trying to provoke military action from the west, or even call Obama’s “line in the sand” bluff?
Tim
Sorry for posting so much at once, but it was your contribution regarding Abbas Yazdi that made me find that interesting iranian corruption link.
I believe that the below quote shows exactly the union between government and organised crime and it probably shows the situation where saad al hilli suddenly found himself to be. I believe that intelligence like MI6 and CIA often work and let kill for both sides. They dont care about who is winning. They dont care about who will be in power since they know that they will bribe him. There is no “black or white”. Governments often agitate on both sides at the same time. Their goal often isnt to have a winner but to bring fear and desperation to weaken a society, a religion or whatever.
Quote:
He breaks his sentence, and explains to the reporter that he cannot explain too much about what the report calls “the triangulated relationship between him, governments, and his rogue clients.
What we don’t have in the Al Hilli case to support your theory of a parallel Bahmani/Mirza/Rafsanjani/Horton Investment’s owner Abbas Yazdi/Total/Statoil scenario is any sign of “conspicuous consumption” on their part. Indeed more suspicious is how SAH at least, managed to maintain the middling sort of life style he had, on his meagre known income. Even when the Geneva bank account was known (if it was what it has been purported to be) there is no evidence anything was withdrawn, only that SAH had made legal moves to prevent ZAH having all of it presumably. As far as I know there has never been independent verification as to bank, account, ownership, source or amount. The only one to try and access money was the strange Nigerian who’s prosecution was dropped (of course). Why then did SAH go to Geneva? Again we are not told though it must have been precisely revealed to investigators. Meanwhile poor old Eric upped the stakes by labelling the disagreement between the brothers “violent”.
Very much agreed Bluebird
21 Aug, 2013 – 3:08 pm.
Taking an inordinate time to post here. Presumably everything has to go via Cheltenham – and you know how long it takes to cycle there.
“In 1993, Richard Chichakli becomes friends and business partners with Bout. In 1995, Sharjah airport hires Chichakli to be the commercial manager of a new free trade zone now being heavily used by Bout. Chichakli, a Syrian by birth, has an interesting background. He claims to have been friends with Osama bin Laden while studying in Saudi Arabia in the early 1980s. He will later claim that he used to “sit around and eat sandwiches and sing songs” with bin Laden and his siblings, back when “Osama was OK.” In 1986, he moved to Texas, became a US citizen, and served in the US army until 1993, specializing in aviation, interrogation, and intelligence. He will later claim that he not only served in the US military, but also spent about 18 years working in intelligence (which, if true, would mean he was an intelligence agent when he was friends with bin Laden). Chichakli’s free trade zone is wildly successful. [CENTER FOR PUBLIC INTEGRITY, 11/20/2002; FARAH AND BRAUN, 2007, PP. 53-56] In 2000, US investigators will learn that Chichakli is living in Texas again and is still working closely with Bout. [FARAH AND BRAUN, 2007, PP. 53] However, no action will be taken against him until April 26, 2005, when US Treasury and FBI agents raid his home and business in Texas. They will seize his computer, documents, and over $1 million in assets as part of an investigation into Bout’s financial empire, but they will not arrest him. Chichakli will not be stopped when he leaves the US several days later. He will move to Syria, where it is later suspected that he and Bout supply Hezbollah with weapons (see July 2006). [FARAH AND BRAUN, 2007, PP. 247-248]”
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a1998huntingheroin
In other words, CIA have an agent working at the very heart of gun running and “Al-Qaeda”.
Chichlaki was hiding in Melbourne under a false name.
http://m.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/accused-arms-dealer-richard-chichakli-faces-us-court/story-e6frg6so-1226694172854
http://m.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/01/catching-richard-chichakli.html
http://shimronletters.blogspot.com/2011/06/chichakli-update.html
Richard Ammar Chichakli: ” I am just a small accountant”
Are you just as small as the golf club accountant in the UK?
http://www.chichakli.com/
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Bout
Victor Bout: Everybody else is unfair and a liar.
http://www.victorbout.com/
Good stuff for a thriller!
Richard Ammar Chichakli is, not unlike the al Hillis, NOT a normal Arab citizen from Syria. Former assassinated Syrian Prime minister Adib Shishlaki is his uncle. His father was chief of the Syrian airforce.
A current Syrian opposition leader, Adib Shishlaky, is his cousin.
Once again we can clearly see that the sons and grandsons of former Arab Royalty and of political or clerical elites are used by Western Intelligence organisations as their assets in middle eastern politics, for weapons smuggling, terror and money laundering.
Quotes and links
Chichakli was born in Syria in 1959 to a politically prominent family. His father Mandour was once commander of the country’s armed forces, and his uncle, Adib Shishakli, ruled the country for three years after seizing power in a military coup in 1951; he, in turn, was overthrown in a 1954 coup. Shishakli, who had served in the French army while Syria was under a French mandate, maintained a pro-Western orientation as the ruler of the country. He was so close to Miles Copeland, a long-time Central Intelligence Agency operative in the Middle East, that Copeland asked Adib Shishakli to become the godfather to one of his children. Following the 1954 coup, Shishakli fled to Brazil. Most of Richard Chichakli’s family was driven out as well. In 1979, those relatives who did not leave Syria were imprisoned or killed in a massacre in Hama.
http://www.ruudleeuw.com/vbout14.htm
Uncle Adib, Syrian Prime minister:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adib_Shishakli
Cousin Adib Shishlaky, current Syrian opposition leader:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adib_Shishakly
Shishakly was born in Syria in 1968 to a prominent military-political family. He is the grandson of the late Adib Shishakly Adib Shishakli, former Syrian leader then President of Syria, who was assassinated in Brazil in 1964. His father Ihsan Shishakly, also a military-political notable and a former high-ranking official in Syria. Suppression by Assad regime, including killing and imprisoning family members, obliged Adib Shishakly to leave to the United States United States during his early life dreaming of returning to a free Syria one day.
Very interesting stuff and important to understand the al hilli connections.
http://www.iiwds.com/said_aburish/a_lostvictories.htm
Quotes
Without CIA money and connivance we might have had a democratic Syria. Without CIA financial support there would be no Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Jamat Islalmia, Osama bin Laden or any of the uncharming groups which we now identify as enemies and many of whom we associate with terrorism.
Overall, the field CIA did not care for the welfare of the average Arab. That mattered as much as the failure of Washington planners to capitalize on field successes because of America’s pro-Zionist policy and the interests of the oil companies. This produced an absence of accountability within the CIA. Given that their aim was to create democracies but there was little chance of what they produced surviving, they could do anything and they did. They gave money to Syrian army officers who took it and did nothing. William Lakeland put the Ba’ath in power in Iraq then was declared persona non grata without suffering for it. The inevitability about the unhappy end to most CIA operations in the Arab world becomes clear when one examines the personalities of the people involved and the policy of the United States.
Money allowed CIA operatives to “retain” kings, presidents and prime ministers, place indigenous army officers in “useful” posts, train future ministers and bureaucrats to operate under ethnic cover and befriend helpful bartenders and taxi drivers in the manner of Eric Ambler’s fictional heroes. Rich America reigned supreme in the 1950s, 60s and most of the 70s and every CIA agent worth his bucket of sand wore his label flagrantly and, conniving with locals who misrepresented what was really happening and were willing to be bought, thought of becoming an American Lawrence of Arabia. This atmosphere made of money, brashness and bravado, prompted Time magazine correspondent Wilton Wynn to describe superspy Miles Copeland as “the only man who ever used the CIA for cover”. Alabaman Copeland spoke like a southern preacher and was into noise-making. Funnily, many of his colleagues imitated him even when they came from the eastern seaboard and others over did it and wore sunglasses on rainy days. Still there was no denying their occasional and important if short-lived successes. Miles Copeland helped Nasser attain power in Egypt. James Barracks and John Fistere protected King Hussein from the popular, anti-American forces in his country. Ray Close worked closely with ARAMCO and King Faisal to establish a Saudi secret service with an Islamic bent which opposed Communism and was successful against pro-Nasser Saudis. And Archie Roosevelt foiled an attempt to unite Syria and Iraq into one country capable of confronting Israel and posing a threat to Saudi Arabia. Their behavior during these momentous events was absurd, and often amusing. Copeland insisted on calling Nasser by his first name, Gamal; Barracks always greeted King Hussein with a loud “Hi, how’re we doing?”; Fistere’s wife told the Harrow-educated King Hussein that he spoke English well; Archie Roosevelt told one of his wife’s lovers to be discreet as not to harm his position and Eveland, when invited to dinner, always telephoned the wife of Lebanese President Camille Chamoun to remind her of his favorite dish, taboule.
Interesting CIA in Middle East reading, too.
http://www.larryjkolb.com/chapter.html
Good article BB. Bit more quote:
“Miles Copeland was a pathological liar; many of his reports spoke of meetings with important leaders, including Nasser, which never took place. But the contents of the reports did not matter because there was no one in Washington to act on them. James Barracks was not gay, he was a twisted, sick homosexual who, despite several official warnings and one suspension, frequented bars in search of handsome Lebanese lads. Eventually he was not taken seriously, had to move to Nigeria and died there in mysterious circumstances. Eveland was an alcoholic who needed a drink for breakfast-and he talked too much when drunk-most of the time. Fistere, a former Fortune magazine public relations executive was a hollow unwholesome expression of Madison Avenue and its buzz language. The Roosevelt cousins had serious problems with women which vitiated their effectiveness. (Archie’s first wife bedded everyone including the butler and Kim couldn’t speak to a pretty woman without becoming unglued.) William Eddy was an old-fashioned missionary and self-aggrandizing fool whose mind belonged to the nineteenth century and the white man’s burden. Harry Kern made it difficult for local people to cooperate with him; he spoke of his hate for the Arabs openly. There was a disturbing absence of common sense and competence. So much so, James Critchfield, for years the regional CIA chief, still sees former Saudi intelligence chief Kamal Adham, the man who had to pay the defunct Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) $100 million in settlement as “one of the great men of the Middle East”. To this day Critchfield knows very little about the Middle East.
Without CIA money and connivance we might have had a democratic Syria. Without CIA financial support there would be no Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Jamat Islalmia, Osama bin Laden or any of the uncharming groups which we now identify as enemies and many of whom we associate with terrorism. The CIA accepted old-fashioned Islam, the discredited ulemas of Al Azhar and the unpopular and unelected mufti of Jordan, as the way of keeping the Middle East down. It missed a chance of sponsoring modern, constructive Islam through working with modern constructive Islamic elements. It rejected democracy because it associated the people who advocated it with anti-Americanism, and by doing this it destroyed the secular forces in the Middle East. It ignored human rights to such an extent, in the 1970s and 80s it went out of its way to justify the crimes of Saddam Hussein and his use of chemical weapons.
© Said K Aburish”
“Chichakli, a US citizen, had been living in Melbourne under an alias and working as a cleaner for almost three years before authorities arrested him in January.
His cover was blown after he attempted to apply for a job as a Victorian Protective Services Officer and a fingerprint check connected him to an Interpol red alert.” http://m.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/accused-arms-dealer-richard-chichakli-faces-us-court/story-e6frg6so-1226694172854
“Ben Zygier, who came from a prominent Jewish family in Melbourne, had emigrated to Israel fourteen years before his suicide, taken the more Israeli name Ben Alon.”
Monash University, Melbourne. Specialist in Arab studies.
“Melbourne is the capital and most populous city in the state of Victoria, and the second most populous city in Australia.[2]”
“Mr Ali Hashim Al-Hilli
AIF Secretary
Victoria, Australia
Ali was born in Baghdad, finished secondary education at Baghdad College. Travelled to the UK in 1970 to finish high school and study Aeronautical Engineering. Graduated from Britains Air University in 1977.
Joined Iraqi Airways as an Aircraft Engineer & later held the positions of Fleet Manager, Technical Control Manager & Customer service manager. Was stationed at London for one year as Technical representative for Iraqi airways. While in Iraqi Airways, Ali Has attended numerous technical courses to the United States, United Kingdom & Germany.
Migrated to Australia in 1992 & worked as a Senior Aircraft Engineer at Aerospace Technologies of Australia in Victoria till 1996. Worked in Malaysian Airlines – Kuala Lumpur as an Aircraft Engineer Consultant till 1998.
Returned to Australia and joined Qantas Airways Heavy Aircraft Maintenance division as a Senior Aircraft Engineer. At present hold’s the position of Aircraft Maintenance Supervisor/Coordinator & Project Manager at the Qantas Airways Avalon facility in Victoria.
While with Qantas Airways, Ali Has attended technical, people Management, project Management & safety courses.Ali’s experience with the Aviation world spans 28 years.
Ali has strong ties to his beloved country of birth Iraq & has good ties with the local Iraqi community and Australia. While with the Australian Iraqi Forum, Ali has participated as part of a delegation to Canberra & met with the foreign senate committee, Mr. Alexander Downer & Australian government agencies. Participated in news/television conferences on issues related to Iraq.”
http://www.aiforum.org.au/members.php?member=Mr%20Ali%20Hashim%20Al-Hilli
“The US government has said British officials gave it a “heads up” about the detention of the partner of a journalist who published information from US whistleblower Edward Snowden.
But it said the decision to detain David Miranda was a British one taken “independent of our direction”.”
Interesting phraseology that. So from an American point of view, Britain “follows its directions” does it? Pretty much as we thought then.
Melbourne and in particupar Monash university seem to be the spy center in this world. Perhaps this is about the Australian laws regarding the pretty easy change of surnames (new documents) that is possible to do every year.
Snowden in an interview on journalism since 9/11
“Dont challenge the government”
http://nytimes.com/2013/08/18/magazine/snowden-maass-transcript.html
Edward Snowden: After 9/11, many of the most important news outlets in America abdicated their role as a check to power — the journalistic responsibility to challenge the excesses of government — for fear of being seen as unpatriotic and punished in the market during a period of heightened nationalism. From a business perspective, this was the obvious strategy, but what benefited the institutions ended up costing the public dearly.
Whistleblowing and money fraud assassinations are usual when it counterfeits the interest of tge powerful.
Those who became dangerous or inconvenient for the established system had always been assassinated, even long before the times of internet blogs:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=42224
Lombardi, who was born in 1951 and died in 2000, did not live to see today’s historical moment, where his worldview seems not eccentric but positively prescient. His drawing BCCI-ICIC & FAB, 1972-91 (4th version) was studied in situ at the Whitney Museum by F.B.I. agents in the days after 9/11; reportedly, consultants to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security previewed the current show at the Drawing Center. One wonders whether he would have felt vindicated or alarmed by this kind of attention.
BCCI-ICIC was destroyed by a defect sprinkler in the new york PS1 museum shortly before it was opened. Lombardi was shocked but he had tried to restore his work. Three weeks later he was found dead in his apartment.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Credit_and_Commerce_International
Strong links to UAE and Iraq and CIA and MI6 money laundering systems!
Body no. 3: Mark Lombardi, a successful conceptual artist who, while chatting on the phone with a banker friend about the Bush savings-and-loan fraud, started drawing a diagram, which evolved into a complex series of drawings and sketches that charted the details of the fraud.According to The New York Times: “He was soon charting the complex matrices of personal and professional relationships, conflict of interest and fraud uncovered by investigations into the major financial and political scandals of the time; he eventually created a database that now includes around 12,000 3-by-5-inch cards.” Lombardi’s drawings simply and elegantly mapped out the secret deals and suspect associations of financiers, politicians, corporations and governments.Thirteen lines in the chart originate with or point to James R. Bath, Bush family friend and US representative of the bin Ladens, more than any other name presented. Among those linked to this obscure yet central character are George W. Bush, Jr, George Bush, Sr, Senator Lloyd Bentsen of Texas, Governor John B. Connally of Texas, Sheik Salim bin Laden of Saudi Arabia and Sheik Salim’s younger brother, Osama bin Laden. On the evening of 22 March 2000, Mark Lombardi was found hanged in his loft. His long-time friend, Andy Feehan, like many of his friends, was mystified by Mark’s death: “When the news of Mark’s death arrived, all of us thought that he was murdered. We assumed that he had made one too many accusations, and that someone made a phone call. We still don’t know what happened. We’d read that the medical examiner ruled Mark’s death a suicide, but we’re unable to understand or accept the idea that Mark would kill himself right when he was at the top of his game.”
by Byron York”Of course, not all the deaths with which the Bushes were allegedly involved were so momentous. For example, Bushbodycount connects the Bush family to the death of Mark Lombardi, a New York conceptual artist whose work took its inspiration from the Iran-Contra, Whitewater, and savings-and-loan scandals (one of his pieces included an image of Neil Bush, the president’s brother). “On the evening of March 22, 2000,” Bushbodycount writes, “Mark Lombardi was found hanging in his loft, an apparent suicide,” another potential “witness”-to what is not clear-who met an untimely end. A similar fate awaited J. H. Hatfield, author of the George W. Bush biography Fortunate Son, a book that achieved momentary notoriety for its allegation that Bush had used cocaine. But Hatfield’s fortunes fell after the charge was debunked and his role in an alleged credit-card-fraud scheme, as well as his imprisonment for a 1987 car bombing, came to light. “He was found Wednesday, July 18, [2001] in a motel room, an apparent suicide,” Bushbodycount notes. With his death, Hatfield joined Bushbodycount’s “silent voices,” those “daring souls who kept the candles of democracy burning while their ignorant neighbors were helping the George Bush clan extinguish the fire.”
Of course “illegal” is only “illegal”, if someone makes a law” (or an “act”) to say it is.
If “A” is a friend of “B” …and a company wants to hire “A” to develop a business relationship with “B”, then why is that “illegal” ?
It is not that there isn’t actually money “spent” in the development of “lets say an offshore drilling rig”.
Just because monies were paid in the development of a relationship…makes it “illegal” in American “law” (or “acts”).
..and there “fines” are making a great deal of money from USA.gov
(I recall Bush placing “higher prices” on imported steel than their “home grown” steel. That however is “somehow” illegal ???)
James
22 Aug, 2013 – 7:25 pm You say:
“Of course “illegal” is only “illegal”, if someone makes a law” (or an “act”) to say it is.”
Factually wrong I’m sorry to say. “Murder” in Britain is still a Common Law crime – i.e. non-statutory.
You say:
“(or an “act”)” As this is an Act of Parliament – a proper noun – it would be more appropriate to type it so: “Act”.
You say: “If “A” is a friend of “B” …and a company wants to hire “A” to develop a business relationship with “B”, then why is that “illegal” ?”
Apropos is this remark made? How does it relate to Chevaline? How does it relate to the tread? How does it make sense?
You say: ” ..and there “fines” are making a great deal of money from USA.gov
(I recall Bush placing “higher prices” on imported steel than their “home grown” steel. That however is “somehow” illegal ???)”
Now apart from your incorrect use of “there” in place of the possessive “their” (always a reliable indicator) “from USA.gov”????
and a last paragraph that is simply nonsense.
I wouldn’t have bothered responding other than the hyper critical posts under that name. Past technical contributions appeared to support a claim to pilot competence. Either “James” is a multi-faceted personality or a combination of persons or a fifteen year old kid with an incomplete education. A highly qualified mature airline pilot this poster certainly is NOT.
*tread should be “thread”
“You say: ” ..and there “fines” are making a great deal of money from USA.gov”
OK I take this observation back. Perhaps I misread it. “…and there, “fines” would have made it clearer, but why “fines” in the quotation marks???
The “Bush placing “higher prices”” would get a C- from me. It is properly described at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_United_States_steel_tariff
You say: “Just because monies were paid in the development of a relationship…makes it “illegal” in American “law” (or “acts”).”
What is illegal under US law is bribing foreign officials to gain contracts. This surely is to be applauded as an international principle despite the realisation it has been consistently and widely abused by all contracting nations. A proper description of it can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Corrupt_Practices_Act
As a result of U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission investigations in the mid-1970s, over 400 U.S. companies admitted making questionable or illegal payments in excess of $300 million to foreign government officials, politicians, and political parties. The abuses ran the gamut from bribery of high foreign officials to secure some type of favorable action by a foreign government to so-called facilitating payments that were made to ensure that government functionaries discharged certain ministerial or clerical duties. One major example was the Lockheed bribery scandals, in which officials of aerospace company Lockheed paid foreign officials to favor their company’s products.[3] Another was the Bananagate scandal in which Chiquita Brands had bribed the President of Honduras to lower taxes. Congress enacted the FCPA to bring a halt to the bribery of foreign officials and to restore public confidence in the integrity of the American business system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Corrupt_Practices_Act
Chlorine. Mustard Gas. Napalm. Agent Orange (Dioxin). Sarin. VX. Smallpox. Anthrax.
TREATY LAW
Geneva Protocol, 1925
Biological weapons convention, 1972
Chemical Weapons Convention, 1993
Protocol I additional to the Geneva Conventions, 1977 – art. 36
In the case of the US 2001 anthrax case another suspicious charge and death.
“On the morning of July 27, 2008, Ivins was found unconscious at his home. He was taken to Frederick Memorial Hospital and died on July 29 from an overdose of Tylenol,[5][35] an apparent suicide. No autopsy was ordered following his death because, according to an officer in the local police department, the state medical examiner “determined that an autopsy wouldn’t be necessary” based on laboratory test results of blood taken from the body.[36] A summary of the police report of his death, released in 2009, lists the cause of death as liver and kidney failure, citing his purchase of two bottles of Tylenol PM (containing diphenhydramine), contradicting earlier reports of Tylenol with codeine.[37] His family declined to put him on the liver transplant list, and he was removed from life support.[37]
Immediately after news of his death, the FBI refused to comment on the situation.[5] Ivins’ attorney released a statement asserting that Ivins had cooperated with the six-year investigation by the FBI and also asserting that Ivins was innocent in the deaths.[38]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Edwards_Ivins#Death
Chemical and biological weapons largely developed by Germany, Britain and Germany. Used and abandoned in the First WW. Considered for use by Britain in Second WW. Not used in battle in Second WW as far as I am aware but used extensively in its abhorrent “Final Solution” programme against the mentally ill, gypsies, Jews, and others seen as “undesirable”.
Napalm (an American invention) was used in a firestorm Tokio attack killing more than 100 000 civilians! Agent Orange was used in Vietnam and SE Asia and is still having critical health consequences.
Saddam’s use in the 80/88 Iran/Iraq War killed about 100 000 Iranians it is claimed with tacit support from the West. Thousands of Marsh Arabs were similarly targeted after the West deserted them post the 1981 conflict. Then against the Kurds of Halabja in 1988 when up to 15 000 died.
Now we have the despot Assad using Sarin it is suggested. (Only a complicated plot by others to draw the West into the conflict might explain it) Obama famously described it as a “red line”. Now it has happened, it has become merely “A big event of grave concern” back-tracking if ever I heard it.
In the case of Libya Gadhaffi’s threat to civilians was enough for intervention. In Syria we have had it for two years or more and now extended to the use of chemical poisons killing without differentiation and yet not even a threat that the Presidential Palace will be bombed unless he desists.
We invaded Iraq with inadequate justification. We remain detached from Syria despite adequate justification. What does it prove? The West is uninterested in the death and human suffering at the hands of despots; it is only interested in money. That it will use violence as an excuse to intervene if oil or other vital raw materials are at stake, because this plays well with the public. But this is a fraud. Without this, it could not give a damn about the numbers killed or methods use.
Don’t it make you proud?
Sorry about the double post there (normally it’s automatically blocked). And of course I missed out the all important “by Germany” in that fourth sentence.
“Factually wrong I’m sorry to say. “Murder” in Britain is still a Common Law crime – i.e. non-statutory”
Where did I mention “murder” by the way ?
(Guess you didn’t read the post again ! It followed on from BB’s posts. That’s how these boards work !!!! )
The “Act” I was referring to related to Total who agreed to it agreed to pay $245 million to the U.S. Justice Department…
….and $153 million to the Securities and Exchange Commission over petroleum contracts in Iran.
The rest of your post is just complete “BS”…. BUT at least it wasn’t more cut and paste !
Oh…the last bit about Bush and steel, it should have been “is that legal” …not “is that illegal”.
But as you picked up on my mistakes (mainly due to hammer out a post) may I refer you to where you actually thought Al Hilli lived !!!!