Unanswerable Argument for Yes

by craig on May 4, 2014 9:28 pm in Uncategorized

I am not sure this was what Keir Hardie had in mind.

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  1. Sorry for breaking all the rules.

    You are a Good Man


  2. Brus MacGallah

    4 May, 2014 - 10:01 pm

    Was he the dope smoker?

  3. Craig,,,,

    Take the Straw c..t down

    You know you can, and I know you will…

    We will come again to the Burning of The StrawJack.

    (Its an old English Festival)

    Far better than the Wicker Man – amateurs you Scottish lot (born and bred and went to school in Norfolk)..I do notice the details


  4. I’m glad that my older relatives who all voted Labour until the 1970s aren’t alive to see how low Labour have sunk. They were all antimonarchist because they didn’t believe in hereditary privilege. And now we have these rich boys jumping into Daddy’s job. The UK state becomes more and more distasteful by the week. It’s a debilitating place to have to live.

  5. Hmmmm. When did you start following the Biblical stuff about visiting the sins of the father……Hmmmm

  6. Nepotism?

    Q. What’s that?

    A. “What I would say about the nepotism thing is that in all walks of life, whether it’s the police, doctors or going into the family law firm, there are examples of children following their parents’ footsteps. That’s also been true in parliament going back many generations – there are actually now many fewer than there were in the past.”


  7. Just listened to the podcast linked on your related recent article/item ( http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/05/scottish-independence-podcast/ ) and enjoyed it especially the craptastic comic blundering and boundless malice, the clueless No No and thrice No Colonel and Lady Blimps in gushing thrall to the Westminster weasels.

    Sad in parts when describing the real Highlands and Highland culture and life before the tragedy that befell them: not only ethnically cleansed of every man, woman and child, but replaced only by sheep, as more profitably farmed than human beings and far less uppity.

    Not much longer must we endure them coming up ‘for the sport’, some light militaristic training and off-books payment of their reactionary Gladio forces of urban-poor dupes bought for their cause with bit parts in small-town criminal rackets, immune from the attentions of the law, and sinecured in make-work jobs as overseers of the excluded many. Once it was Highlanders they came to hunt, now Deer, Grouse, the Pheasant -they must think all these creatures a poor substitute, still it keeps their eye in. One wonders if there will be a reactionary backlash after independence from a ugly and disgruntled establishment element of antis continuing their destructive antics.

    Power in Scotland was long lawfully vested only in the people not in the nonsensical fiction of ‘the Crown’ as is the case in Residual-UK’s remnant parts, and neither the old Scottish Parliament – that unelected original parcel of rogues of ill and infamous repute – nor the mad-Houses of Parliament at Westminster can ever have governed with so much as shred of legitimacy without the consent of the Scottish people. Yet still they do.

    Having painstakingly gone over the 1707 proposal of Union, having tested the idea in a full-scale 300-year long realistic trial, after which no-one can say the matter was not given adequate scrutiny and chance, the proposal has been found wanting and unsound, has serious flaws and defects and has failed to deliver in any notable respect on any of its promises, it has been a hair-raising rough trip in leaky boat with a piratical crew through shark-infested waters in a predictable storm, and has ended in shipwreck. Having found our way back home, it’s rather obvious we’d all rather each nation sail our own ship of state in future, and avoid ‘foreign’ entanglements, thanks very much, goodnight.

  8. Well it’s exactly what I said in response to a Resident Dissident comment on the last thread, that there was a time when the Labour party was a Socialist Party, though not quite in those terms. Now what’s that newspaper he edits? Anybody?

    He should not be judged by the actions of his father, but he should be prepared to take war-criminals to The Hagus.

  9. I imagine Will, will like his father, soon be shown where in the palace of Westminster he should hang his very own sword, MPs have been banging on about this archaism since ever exposing themselves in public, but still it continues. His father’s namesake the much murdering highwayman Jack Straw, after whom the erstwhile Johann Strauss, the former New Labour Foreign Secretary and torturer-in-chief named and styled himself, anxious to end embarassing Viennese composer misapprehensions, in a vain bid to seem more dashing, practised before a mirror in the student union powder-room after hours, yelling “Stand and Deliver!” at the urinals, “Your money or your life!” at the paper towel dispensers, before tripping over his own feet and landing face down in a lake of his own regurgitated Brown Ale and the usual Friday night pool of piss which leftist worker’s champions would customarily leave for some working class drudge to deal with in the morning. Such incidents did not discourage him and he would soon rise unaided except by the CIA, MI5, MI6, the Royal family, the army and the police, the Anglican Church, the Moonies and Charles Manson to the highest offices and lowest morals in the land. The other Jack Straw, the scourge of the Great North Road and lurker in shady hollows with his band of villains was quite handy with a sword as legend has it, not to mention with a musket or a razor-sharp filleting-knife. I believe he was hanged/hung in the end.

  10. Yes, Craig, you should definitely run again him. I was hoping you’d win against Jack in Blackburn, and was disgusted that you were even excluded from the live radio debate. Some democracy!

  11. “Now what’s that newspaper he edits? Anybody?” Will Straw I meant, not Resident Dissident.

  12. We want Straw.

  13. ‘left foot forward’, john; if a blog counts as a newspaper?

    otherwise, wild guess: nepotism today & 4 ever . . .

  14. Jives @ 5 May, 2014 – 3:13 am

    “We want Straw.”

    i prefer strawberries. . .

  15. Punnets and punnets of nice, juicy Israeli strawberries is what we want. :-)

  16. The son is better looking than the father.

    who fancies his charm

    If you go to Google images, there are several of him close up to Condoleeza Rice. Were they soul mates?

  17. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    5 May, 2014 - 8:48 am

    FMake hay not Straw.

  18. ‘Punnets and punnets of nice, juicy Israeli strawberries is what we want’

    Not if they are produced on stolen Palestinian land using water which the Palestinians cannot have to drink.

    Now if you allowed exports from Gaza, you could have their strawberries.

    ‘From June 2007 until June 2010, only 255 truckloads of strawberries and flowers left Gaza for Europe, compared to dozens of trucks that left Gaza per-day in the first six months of 2007, and 400 trucks that Israel agreed to let out daily in the Agreement on Movement and Access (AMA). In December 2010, Israel declared it would allow more export from Gaza through the Kerem Shalom Crossing. From the end of November 2010 to the end of April 2011, 287 truckloads of strawberries and flowers left Gaza for Europe, in addition to a minimal quantity of red peppers and cherry tomatoes – in other words, 0.5% of the amount of trucks promised in the AMA. Israel does not allow residents of Gaza to export goods to markets in Israel, the West Bank or Jordan. From May 12, 2011, to October 27, Israel didn’t allow any truck carrying goods to exit the Gaza Strip.’

  19. ‘Will leads on energy and climate change policy

    Will is an experienced media performer, with recent appearances on Any Questions?, the Today Programme, Daybreak, Channel 4 News and Newsnight, as well as regular slots on Sky News, BBC News, BBC World Service, Radio 5Live, and LBC. He writes regularly for Comment is Free, Left Foot Forward and Progress Online. His writing has also appeared in The Times, Financial Times, Guardian, Prospect, Politico, American Prospect, Huffington Post, New Statesman, Coffee House and Total Politics magazine, among others. In 2009, Will co-edited The Change We Need: What Britain can learn from Obama’s victory published by the Fabian Society.

    Will is founder of Left Foot Forward, Britain’s No 1 left-wing blog, where he worked as editor until December 2010. He is a Visiting Fellow at the Center for American Progress in Washington DC, where he worked from 2008–09 as Associate Director on Economic Growth, leading the Center’s work on the US stimulus package, globalisation and innovation.’

    Noreena Hertz there is the great granddaughter of Chief Rabbi Hertz and is married to Danny Cohen, Director BBC TV.

    I am sure young Will will go far.

  20. On Australian MSM news today

    you could not make this up

    Young gun Packer had a street fight with Young gun Gyngell (sons of Kerry and Bruce respectively)

    Yes, really, a fisticuffs on Sunday in the streets of Sydney

    my Dad is bigger/better than your Dad

    and ‘guess who’ filmed the brawled?

    No brainer-it was Rupert’s kid.

    And the Australian police are worried about ‘street’ crime/thuggery?!


  21. PS. The first-named in my post were described by MSM as ‘the most powerful MEN in Australia.”

    Please excuse me while I weep.

    The MSM said something about Miranda Kerr, but I was crying too hard to hear….

    As above, so below.

    I have been saying for a very long time that the crimes in the gutter are but a reflection of the crimes at the top.

    Thugs in charge of the Prison
    Loons in charge of the Asylum

    while the masses just keep on slaving or otherwise slipping thru the cracks created by the psychopaths.

  22. I’m very sorry Craig-I’m OFF TOPIC here.

  23. babushka @ 5 May, 2014 – 10:05 am

    “On Australian MSM news today

    you could not make this up …”

    any deaths/serious injuries/arrests?
    thought not. tossers.
    typical. . .

  24. I’m pretty sure it isn’t what Kier Hardy had in mind either. We, I am afraid, are stuffed.

    I simply don’t understand what it all has to do with a ‘Yes’ vote north of the border, though. I would suggest absolutely nothing. Are people up there really that much less inclined to vote for the Straws of this world than the rest of us? Are the candidates chosen for them by the party machines so much better? Are politics in Glasgow really that much cleaner than Blackburn? If so – and I doubt it – then let the good news flow south. Don’t let’s surrender to this hideous ‘It’s our bat and it’s our ball and we’re clearing off with it” mentality.

  25. Miss Castello

    5 May, 2014 - 10:30 am

    Anon; 8:11am “juicy strawberries” (Ad Nauseum).

    If you’re so keen on extolling the fruits of nature, you might also like to wax lyrical on the thousands of ancient olive trees / groves, wantonly, wilfully, persistently, set alight by deranged israeli settlers, whilst the so called ‘Most Moral Army'(you really couldn’t make it up) either stands by cheering them on or saves them the bother by bulldozing the entire grove. For no other reason than they can. A team to be truly proud of, eh?

    When it comes to “juice” – none has flowed so freely than the spilt blood of Palestinians, from the 1948 NAKBA! to the present day.


  26. “It seems to me that the common folk are generally pretty decent but the country is secretly ruled by a cabal who are sociopathic and shockingly amoral. We need to get rid of them. I’ll leave it to you to work out how :)”

    This post from King of Welsh Noir, now closed on another thread.

    But the theme is Universal.

    We each of us need to do our own ‘bit’, according to our God-given gifts and strengths.

    So no good leaving it to others, KoWN.

    I know, you are doing your bit in your Own Corner of the Vineyard.

    Interesting to me, how the ‘boundaries’ have shifted through the ages, thanks to politicians and their bosses.

    Whilst the serfs and servants do what needs to be done to get the jobs done, and all others can figure out the rest for themselves.

  27. Miss Castello

    5 May, 2014 - 10:55 am

  28. Ozwry@10.18am

    Agreed: It is an MSM fiction; a 24/7/365 Fairy Tale cum Nightmare.

    The real victims are the children of these so-called most powerful ‘men’ in Oz.

  29. peacewisher, anybody standing against young Strawman will be as frozen out of the debate, as hampered by police and local council rigmarole, as if it was Jack himself.

    The establishment and politcal parties, however unpopular, will always attract support from a self serving media, dependent on their franchise.

    Even the lowest turn outs are fashioned as tremendous wins, mandates are conjured up from hastily concoted newspaper polls on their party political ideas, not from doorstep research and support for their ideas.

    Despite this being ‘the most important EU election ever’ not my words but that of party politicians, the campaign has been held at the lowest key ever, in the media as well as in reality, Tory members and supporters had letters send to them at great expense, in February, wary of the swiveleyed loons and anxious to talk to their members, they are shitting themselves here in Norfolk, these letters were designed to assure, make them feel good about themselves.

    So this barely 4 weeks and low key, for the most important election ever, must mean for us not to go out and vote, so we leave the 5% of party members vote and feel good about themselves, exactly what I shall do, enjoy an icecream somewhere waiting for something that will never happen.

    I’m following Russell Brands advice, however empty and devoid of alternative solutions it was.

  30. doug scorgie

    5 May, 2014 - 1:04 pm

    5 May, 2014 – 8:27 am

    “Were they soul mates?”

    Ah! soul mates.

  31. doug scorgie

    5 May, 2014 - 1:38 pm

    5 May, 2014 – 9:08 am

    “He is a Visiting Fellow at the Centre for American Progress in Washington DC, where he worked from 2008–09 as Associate Director on Economic Growth…”

    Will Straw got a police caution for drug dealing in 1997. If he wants to go to the US he requires a letter of special dispensation from the embassy to be let past the border.

    He obviously hasn’t had any problems, unlike Nigella Lawson.

  32. Men who look upon themselves born to reign, and others to obey, soon grow insolent

    Thomas Paine, Common Sense.

  33. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    5 May, 2014 - 1:49 pm


    “Will Straw got a police caution for drug dealing in 1997. If he wants to go to the US he requires a letter of special dispensation from the embassy to be let past the border.”

    On a point of info : is a caution sufficient to get someone barred, or is it a conviction? If the former, then you have a valid point; if the latter, then not.

  34. I have to say I find Scottish strawberries are unquestionably the best, if organic, even better, consumers given a choice always choose them.

    The Israeli franken-fruit produced on stolen-land, fertilised by the blood and bodies of the Palestinian people ploughed under I expect to be toxically-laden with chemical fertilisers, herbicide residues and pesticides, a bitter harvest of bad fruits, nothing but superficial gloss, inside rotten to the core. Look for the number 729 leftmost on the barcode and leave them to wilt and wither on the shelf.

  35. The late Labour minister Barbara Castle commended her then assistant, the current Justice Secretary, Jack Straw, for his ‘guile and low cunning’.

    His son Will, 29 is a shrewd chap, too. He worked in America during the 2008 presidential election for a blog called Think Progress, which dug up dirt on Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

    Shrewd: Jack Straw’s son, Will worked for a blog in the run up to the 2008 presidential election which dug up dirt on Sarah Palin – photo

    Now he’s planning a blog called Left Foot Forward, focusing on Tory leader David Cameron and a future Conservative government. Jack’s tipped him off that Labour’s had it, perhaps.’

    Goggle eyed and gormless in the accompanying photo.

    Ephraim Hardcastle.


    The Mail do not like NuLabour to state the obvious.

    On BLiar and Chilcot again with BLiar looking ragged.

    Tony Blair besieged as Cameron says: End the excuses and print Iraq War report
    Former PM accused of trying to delay publication of Chilcot Inquiry
    Well-sourced reports suggest that it will savage his handling of the conflict
    Blair has argued criticism could dent Ed Miliband’s General Election hopes
    Comes as former Labour leader struggles to maintain his standing


    and yet another portrait of the arch war criminal

    At 60, Blair goes for the youthful look: Former prime minister goes for jeans and open polo shirt in new portrait
    Thee image of the former PM was painted by British war artist Ken Howard
    Standing in front of Northern Ireland mural with the slogan ‘No Surrender’
    Howard was Official War Artist to Northern Ireland in 1973 during Troubles


  36. Spot on there Tony M and Miss Castello earlier.

  37. I was reminded of other politicians who followed their fathers into parliament like Pitt the Younger and Winston Churchill.

    Nothing became of them either.


    5 May, 2014 - 3:54 pm

    Nepotism is endemic throughout most cultures. One of the most prolific practitioners are Police and Firefighters. The ‘Good Ol’ boy network is the only in, save some limited Affirmative Action where a smattering of minority groups give a nice bit of shade.

    I think most of our activities are imbued with chinks in human armor. Human nature is the battleground, and that seems to be a perpetual war of ‘me and mine’ versus others not part of our group.


    5 May, 2014 - 3:58 pm

    “At 60, Blair goes for the youthful look: Former prime minister goes for jeans and open polo shirt in new portrait
    Thee image of the former PM was painted by British war artist Ken Howard
    Standing in front of Northern Ireland mural with the slogan ‘No Surrender’
    Howard was Official War Artist to Northern Ireland in 1973 during Troubles”

    It’s kind of funny that once they’ve made their nut, these guys go all casual and easy-going toward re-inventing public image, eh Mary?

  40. Even worse is that taxpayers’ money was spent by the HoC on a portrait of the warmonger.

    ‘It was commissioned by the House of Commons for the parliamentary art collection.
    Now it will be hung in Portcullis House, the modern parliamentary building opposite the Palace of Westminster, alongside pictures of other former PMs and leading political figures.’

    A review by David Lee, Editor of art magazine The Jackdaw
    This is a stylish, formal portrait by a capable young painter whose portrayal of composer Thomas Adès in the National Portrait Gallery is among the finest recent works in the collection.
    Everything about this picture up to the head works satisfactorily, the white of the shirt peeping under the jacket buttons is an especially clever trick to liven the gloom.
    It is entirely convincing, if unexciting. Sadly Blair looks to have assumed the dull, unrevealing look of concentration many adopt when sitting for a portrait.
    This kills any work stone dead. It is not revealing of his state of mind though the sombreness and the concentration may perhaps signify disappointment.
    Unfortunately the head is so odd there is no averting one’s eyes from it.
    He seems to be suffering some dreadful brain inflammation.
    It is very distracting, as is his hair which more resembles a cheap toupée than the wispy thin grey locks we’re all used to.
    I can’t think of another official portrait where a seeming deformity has so affected the way the picture is viewed.
    In order to counteract the large head the Commons will have to hang the picture high up in order for it to be viewed from below. It ought then to look passably normal. Notwithstanding the head, it’s a tidy if dull effort.
    The problem for portraiture seems to be that we know already too well the appearance of the sitters from television and newspapers. Paintings look somehow fake.
    Gone are the days when artists could effortlessly produce a picture that didn’t look somehow strange and was entirely convincing in all its facets.


  41. technicolour

    5 May, 2014 - 7:44 pm

    In fact I’ve seen the portrait live in Portcullis House and it is, literally, chilling: makes people, not just me, shiver. A darker, more revealing portrait of a man would be hard to find, and great art: makes you think of ‘My Last Duchess’.

  42. Yes it’s the dead eyes Technicolour and the size of the head, out of proportion.

    I just had a strange experience after finding this below, the first official portrait. The url disappeared from the top of the screen then all went black. In the end I had to close down and reboot!

    Tony Blair’s first official portrait unveiled

    The artist is the son of the now deselected ex MP Tim Yeo following lobbying indiscretions from which he was cleared.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Yeo (needs updating)

  43. Yeo is still an MP.

  44. Yeo was on Radio 4 Today before 8am defending the ConDem agreement with EDF to build a new nuclear power station at Hinkley Point which an academic lawyer and others are saying is virtually null and void.

  45. 6 May 2014

    Scottish Conservatives launch European election campaign

    Ms Davidson will use the launch to reiterate the party’s support for an in-out EU referendum

  46. Ba'al Zevul (In Vimto Veritas!)

    6 May, 2014 - 9:09 am

    So why campaign together? Essentially, it seems, because it would be “more weird” to pretend he wasn’t his father’s offspring – and also because Jack Straw knows everybody in east Lancashire and has honed his vote-gathering technique to perfection after more than three decades standing on a soapbox outside Marks & Spencer in Blackburn town centre most weekends.

    I think that says it all. And Jack’s press releases rarely omit the reference to M&S, as Craig noted earlier. It’ll be Lord Jack of St. Michael if (when) they ennoble the weasel.
    Question is, did the proposal to move M&S to the new mall really fall through because Jack didn’t fancy campaigning outside whoever took over the site – Poundland, say, or Coral?

    Footnote: Jeremy Paxman’s book, “Political Animal” alleges that Straw has to bribe a busker on the same site to shut up when he’s having a public blether. I really think this is a commercial opportunity for the street entertainment profession, and as many as possible of its members should make their way to Blackburn for these events.

  47. Ba'al Zevul (In Vimto Veritas!)

    6 May, 2014 - 10:15 am

  48. Ba'al Zevul (In Vimto Veritas!)

    6 May, 2014 - 12:46 pm

    Punnets and punnets of nice, juicy Israeli strawberries is what we want.

    And the prize for unnecessarily introducing Israel goes to….

    But while we’re there, nice juicy Gaza strawberries aren’t on the shelves today…


    For the Jewish holidays, apparently. They have quite a lot of holidays –


    None of which, not even the Second Passover*, was yesterday or today.

    *“There were, however, certain persons who had become ritually impure through contact with a dead body, and could not, therefore, prepare the Passover offering on that day. They approached Moses and Aaron . . . and they said: ‘. . . Why should we be deprived, and not be able to present G‑d’s offering in its time, amongst the children of Israel?’” (Numbers 9:6–7).
    In response to their plea, G‑d established the 14th of Iyar as a “Second Passover” (Pesach Sheni) for anyone who was unable to bring the offering on its appointed time in the previous month.

    Might need more than a couple of alternative dates if you’re in the IDF, hey?

    (Captcha denies that 5 X 1 = 5)

  49. Be grateful ye tenants! And keep paying the rent to the rentier.

    Earl to sell mountain to pay off tax
    The Earl of Lonsdale, who is trying to sell a mountain to pay off a hefty tax bill, has said he chose shifting the peak over evicting people from their homes.

    Lake District mountain sale: Earl ‘didn’t want to evict tenants’

    So much loot, so many wives, so many legal wrangles. What a crowd.

  50. Another unanswerable argument for voting yes, the most persuasive I have yet seen. The graph says it all:


  51. What is the problem with the Earl trying to sell off one chunk of land (the mountain) so that he was not forced to sell other assets which would deprive people of their homes and, in the case of tenant farmers, their livelihoods? Surely it is a good thing that has not chosen the latter course of action?

    Perhaps if death duties were not so crippling for those who are asset rich and cash poor there would be no cause to sell any of the land.

  52. How the hell can an individual have ever come to ‘own’ a mountain the first place, it’s preposterous.


  53. Tony M Earlier you questioned the right of one man ‘to own a mountain’. Rightly so.

    There is a discussion here on Medialens which starts by asking how a Lowther came to ‘own’ it.


    The mountain in question was featured in Sunday’s Countryfile. The item served as an advert for the sale. YCNMIU.

    ‘Mountain for sale
    Ellie Harrison Ellie Harrison is in the Lake District exploring a mountain which is on sale for the first time in four centuries. She discovers what a potential buyer could expect for their money with the help of a trusty Wainwright guide. These detailed records have been indispensable for fell walkers for 50 years. Ellie then meets the mystery seller himself and goes off-road to experience the finest views. She also visits a tenant farmer who introduces her to his hardy flock of Herdwick sheep, which thrive on the mountain.’

  54. I note that the article does not quote him saying “Drug-pushing is an activity for scumbags, and I am truly sorry.” I note also that his Good Neighbour Paterfamilias is on hand, which should make any local churches think twice about daring to give an equal platform to human rights activists and ex-senior diplomats with New Labour officials.

  55. Jon Snow on Twitter.

    Jon Snow ‏@jonsnowC4 · May 5
    Great reaction to my Scottish independence blog: Please read if you haven’t: it is about all of us: http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/visceral-hatred-westminister-politics/23805

  56. Ba'al Zevul ( :-) )

    8 May, 2014 - 10:32 am

    I was reminded of other politicians who followed their fathers into parliament like Pitt the Younger and Winston Churchill.

    One (at a time) may be accounted a misfortune…this is stretching credulity a bit, though:


    The trouble with our representatives is that they are not our representatives, or indeed anyone’s representatives other than their party whips’.

  57. Unanswerable argument for yes… i think i’ve found it!


  58. Scottish students say “yes” to boycotting Israel Posted on May 2, 2014 –

    The Palestinian-led campaign for boycott, divestment and sanctions against Israel is continuously winning greater support among students in Britain and Ireland.

    During March, referendums endorsing BDS tactics were carried at the University of Dundee in Scotland, the National University of Ireland – Galway and King’s College London.

    On 27 March, a referendum was held by the Dundee University Student Association (DUSA) for students to vote on twelve different motions put forward by different societies on campus. The motion submitted by the Action Palestine society was approved with the largest majority of students voting ”yes.” Out of 660 votes cast, 479 (72.6 percent) supported the motion.

    DUSA boasts of being the number one student union in Scotland and the result of this poll indicates that students want it to take an ethical stance in opposing injustice in Palestine.


    PS What is there in the Education Act 1994 that prevents DUSA from implementing the motion?

    ‘In Dundee, the response from the DUSA executive has been that it couldn’t implement the motion in its entirety, citing restrictions imposed by the UK Education Act of 1994. The association’s response did not explain why it felt restrained by that law.

    The Dundee University Action Palestine society hasn’t released a statement yet as both the society’s members and the DUSA executive are awaiting further details of how the BDS motion will be implemented.’

  59. Miss Castello

    9 May, 2014 - 9:20 pm

  60. Miss Castello, 9:20 pm; excellent link. Thank you.

    “Scottish Independence: Why progressives across the UK must support the Yes campaign”

  61. FYI

    Wood Group: Stop Powering Apartheid Israel!! AGM Demonstration in Aberdeen
    4th May at 10am
    Outside Wood Group offices, 15 Justice Mill Lane, Aberdeen City Centre

    Scottish PSC is now running transport to Aberdeen for the Wood Group protest on Wednesday 14th May from Edinburgh, Glasgow and Dundee. Details as follows;

    EDINBURGH – leaves Waterloo Place 7am Call Ian on 07935 224 394
    GLASGOW – leaves George Square 7am Call David on 07580 69 00 92
    DUNDEE – leaves 8am and back by 6pm – email dundee@scottishpsc.org.uk

    For details of travel from elsewhere – email campaign@scottishpsc.org.uk

    Join SPSC on May 14th in Aberdeen to challenge Wood Group’s ongoing complicity in Israel’s occupation and dispossession of Palestinians.

    Wood Group, an Aberdeen-based company, has recently built a massive power station in Israel that will provide 8% of Israel’s electricity. Amongst the confirmed recipients of this electricity are the Israeli Ministry of ‘Defence’- responsible for massacres in Gaza, torture, imprisonment without trial, and daily human rights abuses. The electricity will also power Mekerot, the Israeli state water company, responsible for enforcing water apartheid, and Keter Plastic’s factory in an illegal Israeli settlement in the occupied Palestinian territories.

    The power station is located about 10km north of the Gaza Strip: Wood Group is providing state of the art energy technology to Israel while Israel enforces a brutal siege on the Gaza Strip. Restrictions on fuel, electricity, and materials for essential maintenance mean that Gaza is forced to endure daily and lengthy blackouts, wreaking havoc on all aspects of life including health, education and sanitation.

    Wood Group plans on expanding its operations in Israel: to increase the company’s profits whilst Palestinians are denied their rights, Israeli apartheid continues, and the Gaza Strip is strangled.

    The Wood Group AGM will take place at 15 Justice Mill Lane, Wood Group’s offices in the centre of Aberdeen. Join the demonstration to make it clear that there cannot be ‘business as usual’ in Israel as long as Palestinians are denied justice and the Israeli state continues its practices of apartheid and occupation.

    Accommodation will be provided for those travelling to Aberdeen and other solidarity activities will be organised for after the demonstration. Contact
    Aberdeen at scottishpsc.org.u k for more details.

  62. Miss Castello

    10 May, 2014 - 11:29 am

  63. Miss Castello

    10 May, 2014 - 11:32 am

    Clark; 10.25pm. You’re welcome, glad I spotted it.

  64. Miss Castello, I think that independence would be good for Scotland through strengthening democratic power for the people, which would also confer economic benefits though that may take a few years.

    But the international implications of Scottish independence are what interest me the most. People I spoke to all across Scotland were disgusted by British foreign policy which is basically just an extension of that of the US. Scotland freeing itself from Westminster/US control would alter the global power-balance in itself, but it would also set an excellent example for other countries.

  65. Repeating this from another thread. Jenkin the chair of the committee was trying to squelch Paul Flynn who was exposing an establishment attempt to bolster the No brigade. Civil servants should be apolitical.

    ‘How I wish I had an MP like Paul Flynn who stands by his principles.

    I saw this on video last night. Today in Parliament. Jenkin shouted him down when Mr Flynn was still speaking by repeating the name of the next committee member he wanted to speak.

    Labour MP Paul Flynn in Commons meeting walkout over Scottish independence ‘stunt’ in Westminster

    THE Welsh MP stormed out of a Commons committee meeting, claiming the public administration committee was all “part of the ganging up on the Scots Nats.”

    May 07, 2014

    Kerslake was unimpressive.

    See Mr Flynn’s blog entries for his other stances. http://paulflynnmp.typepad.com/

    An honourable man.

  66. Miss Castello

    13 May, 2014 - 7:45 pm

    Just stumbled across this. Interesting?


  67. Miss Castello

    13 May, 2014 - 7:57 pm

  68. Miss Castello

    15 May, 2014 - 11:02 am

  69. Miss Castello

    15 May, 2014 - 11:08 am

    Have I (unwittingly!)become Craig’s correspondent for the ‘Yes’ Campaign?!? Tell me to stop, if it’s too much…

  70. Mary For Truth and Justice

    15 May, 2014 - 6:20 pm

    15 May 2014

    Scottish independence: Cameron in ‘speak up for Union’ call

  71. Miss Castello

    18 May, 2014 - 8:50 am

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