Paedophilia and Politicians 129


I am genuinely confused following today’s official police report that paedophilia allegations against Edward Heath were credible enough to bear investigation. It does not surprise me that powerful politicians were protected from investigation in their lifetime. It is sad and sick, but not surprising. In the large majority of cases – Heath, Janner, Brittan, Freud, Smith, activities at Elm Guest House and Dolphin Square and more – we will never really know the full truth.

But my confusion is this.

These are not “copycat” allegations, because they were hushed up at the time. Yet there were, undeniably, a total of scores of allegations of paedophile abuse against politicians, spread right across the country, made by people nobody listened to and who in the vast majority of cases had no knowledge of each other.

Now there are not a similar tranche of historic allegations of other crimes against politicians. There is no evidence of historic shoplifting allegations, and surprising little of historic fraud and corruption allegations. Sexually, there is some limited number of historic adult rape allegations, but not nearly on the scale of the historic paedophilia allegations.

Why? It is not a rhetorical question. I genuinely do not understand it.

Paedophilia is in fact thankfully rare in society. It is notoriously difficult to estimate but medical authorities rate sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children at around 2% of the male population. But that is a figure for those who feel any kind of attraction, not for those who are prepared to act on it. That figure is far, far smaller. But it is very hard to quantify. There are approximately 20,000 convictions per year in the UK, but as the crime mostly happens within families that is certainly an understatement of the incidence. Most of the convictions also involve a family relationship.

To my knowledge, no significant proportion of the historic allegations against politicians involve their own family members. This makes them part of a still rarer group, those who set out to procure the sexual services of children with whom they have no connection. I do not see any room to doubt that Parliament had, over a period of decades, an incidence of criminals that indulged in this odious pattern of behaviour, that was very much higher than the incidence in the general population.

I ask again, why? I do not think power and impunity is enough of an answer. They were doing something the vast, vast majority of us would never do, no matter how sure to “get away with it”.

I can only think of two explanations. The first, and unlikely, is some sort of organisation of paedophiles designed to help each other into parliament. The second and probable explanation is that the desire for political power often reflects a personality disorder which leads to other aberrant behaviour, such as paedophilia.

It is rather important for society that we come to understand this, as it has severe implications for the way we organise society. Unfortunately, Theresa May, whether by design or incompetence, made such a pig’s ear of the Inquiry into historic child abuse, I fear our best chance has passed.

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129 thoughts on “Paedophilia and Politicians

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  • Elaine

    My suspicion is that the public schools that many who go on to become politicians are sent to at such a young age has a part to play in it.

    • Alex Westlake

      Ted Heath attended a state grammar school. I think he was the first Conservative leader not to come from a public school background

      • Alliomack

        He may well have been sexually abused though & would then, in those days, mixed with most other MPs who were peodophiles’ & went to public schools. Being psychopaths also, many are compulsive liars, predatory with no feelings of remorse or guilt. Heath was in the company of many peodophiles who given their value system, would easily have given & encouraged his access to v vulnerable children.

        • nevermind

          Far from denying that there is a legacy of country bumpkins trying to cover up stuff, loosing files, etc. can you just give us any reasoned examples from were you gathered this experience/knowledge.

          ‘He may well have been sexually abused’ is followed by ‘would tyhen, in those days, mixed with MOST other MP’s who were paedophiles and went to public school.’

          Are you proofing your vivid imagination on the back of a news story? or are you going to justify these allegations?

  • Corinne

    Britain’s elite comes from a small pool of schools where humiliations, violence, putdowns and a strictly hierarchic worldview is enforced, with older students having more or less every right to abuse the younger. This embeds a pattern of abuse in the minds of the pupils, which is then reinforced with the phony “initiation ceremonies” — which are all about abusing or being abused — undergone by this so-called “elite”. For instance, everyone will recall Cameron’s pig, but there is also that:
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bullingdon-club-initiation-ceremony-claim-1725912
    That churns out perverts like a pork butcher factory churns out sausages. I guess if the UK wants to solve its problem, it will have to seriously investigate the methods of these schools.
    Not that other countries are free of that problem, though, but it is true that it is particularly bad in the UK.

    • SandyW

      Think you’re on to something there, Corinne. Add to that that many of these schools are boarding schools where young children are basically abandoned by their parents. That rejection must cause additional psychological damage from the start.

  • Radar O’Reilly

    Former Conservative party Chief Whip Trevor Victor Norman Fortescue, CBE summed it up

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    according to much of the internet from 2014 reporting an historic BBC documentary about the secret state, apparently

    • Radar O’Reilly

      This time with the quoted extracts

      “Anyone with any sense who was in trouble would come to the Whips and tell them the truth. Say ‘I’m in a jam, can you help?”

      “It might be debt, it might be scandal involving small boys”

      “We would do everything we can because we would store up brownie points. That sounds a pretty nasty reason, but it’s one of the reasons that if we could get a chap out of trouble, he’ll do as we ask forever more”

  • J

    For those interested in fictionalised renderings of these issues and how they intersect with the mechanics of power, there are a couple of decent television series to view. They go as far as they can toward an answer while being riveting viewing, an uneasy compromise:

    Top of the Lake

    True Detective – Season 1

  • Mark James

    As alluded to by other commenters, I think one has to look at the calibre of a lot of politicians. So many of them are hopeless, creepy misfits and the only explanation for their elevation to the post of MP must be some interference from a source of actual power such as MI5. No doubt people with no moral fibre are picked and groomed at either public school or Oxbridge and then coaxed in the right direction. Such creeps would be very easy to blackmail and so would be fully compliant with the corporate state’s agenda.

  • William Purves

    Slightly of the subject. Scotland should bring up the bribery and corruption regarding the signing of the Treaty of theUnion of Parliaments in 1707.

  • GHW

    The third explanation is that CIA uses pedophile sex crimes for elite initiation and kompromat (nobody cares about gay sex anymore but when you blackmail a pedophile he stays blackmailed.) This practice is documented in the Finders, Franklin, and Jeffrey Epstein cases. To induce pedophile sexual violence CIA relies on disinhibition by drugs. CIA had a controllable pedophile third in line for emergency succession. VVIPs include Hastert, Foley, Gutman, and many more who haven’t yet outlived their usefulness. CIA will naturally use the same controls on its British satellite.

  • Lucy Mellersh

    Two reasons as far as I can make out:
    1 Boys’ boarding school
    2 The system of “whips” in British parliament. Whips like to have some kind of leverage over the MPs that they deal with. Therefore politicians are either selected for such predilections, or they are introduced to it as a sort of initiation. Once you have been caught and then your whip has got you off quietly, you will vote whichever way the whip wants you to.

  • FranzB

    CM – “Now there are not a similar tranche of historic allegations of other crimes against politicians. There is no evidence of historic shoplifting allegations, and surprising little of historic fraud and corruption allegations.”

    I think you’re missing all of the entirely legal cons that MPs run. When the MPs expenses fraud story broke, it revealed things like Cameron claiming expenses for clearing wisteria from his house. One MP bought a television on expenses for £7,000. MPs have been busy privatising the NHS whilst being paid by private health care providers – as long as they declare it, that’s fine. David Laws filched £40,000 from the taxpayer in housing expenses and there was no comeback (he paid it back). Imagine if someone on housing benefit had illegally claimed that amount. All sorts of ministers leave parliament and then walk into a job in the private sector where they sell their knowledge of procedures and contacts (official secrets act anybody?). ACOBA are toothless – see Private Eye ad nauseum. Alan Milburn, ex Health Minister, is making a packet working for the private health care industry. George Osborne, ex chancellor whose policies benefitted Blackrock, now works for Blackrock (at £650,000 p.a. according to reports).

    All perfectly legal no doubt, but it leaves a nasty whiff in the air.

  • husq

    “This book offers a unique insight into the world of children, and especially the way in which young souls – who have a right to be ‘childish’ – can be irreparably damaged by the experience of boarding school. The book is thoroughly researched, and provides fascinating perspectives on the inner landscape of childhood, largely by showing the deep connections between the emotional, sexual and spiritual development of children. By exploring how boarding can damage these connections, the author makes a unique contribution to our understanding of childhood and adolescence.”

    http://www.boardingschoolsurvivors.co.uk/books/the-making-of-them/

  • Alliomack

    I think that you have to consider the possibility that high numbers of politicians were sent to & abused in public schools.Not only by those in charge, but by boys older than them. They were also subject to many different types of neglect & bullying. That, coupled with the values of those in establishment viewing working class people as being despicable & disposable & used as a ‘commodity’ & as a means to an end has led to politicians using their power to sexually abuse v vulnerable children.. Sexual Abuse in childhood is the key – it’s a trauma that can, coupled with types of neglect & ‘moral values’ enacted out by those around them, can lead to sexually perverted predatory behaviour which is also a symptom of psychopathy. Many politicians are psychopaths, as are many in big business, especially in the financial sector.

    • nevermind

      Counselling the masses with trauma does not make an iota of a difference, when all these old stories of houses full of paedophiles MP’s are mere reminiscence, a tale you tell, in hind sight, Not when it occurred and not after it.
      If you weren’t concerned then? why are you concerned now?

  • Cathy

    Yes many more people would have voted indeed. I was driving around Barcelona that day and the queues were enormous. They were going around a whole block and not moving.. Can you imagine how that must have put off some old people and young families? As the internet was shut down in polling stations the voting process was extremely slow. The Catalans showed resolve that I wouldn’t mess with though.. oh no..The Spanish need to get to know the Catalans a little bit better.

  • nevermind

    Universal benefit is being fully advanced, despite multiple reports that it has put people on the streets, leaving them for weeks without any money so they end up in the hands of loan sharks, or worse, they consider taking their own lives when they are up to their eyeballs in debt.
    Gt. Yarmouth is just one of those places and it has got serious problems with social dereliction and bad housing, not that this means the annual refurbishment of Freemasons Hall is postponed.

    The Government is not listening to multiple agencies and loud noises saying that this change does not work and forcing it through saying that in some areas it has led to people getting back into jobs faster.

    There is not one journalist challenging this glib statement, despite their knowledge of food banks and how many working people are now in need to supplement their meagre static wages.
    TELL US WHO IS GETTING ON ON UNIVERSAL BENEFIT, CAN MAKE ENDS MEET, SHOW US HOW THEY CAN MAKE A LIVING AND FEED THEIR CHILDREN, YOU PATHETIC KILLERS!

    You, David Gauke, are responsible for people who can’t cope with your brain dead ideas, you are not listening to the only people who are making a difference to peoples life’s today, a predator on the poor, collaborating in the slow demise of people who are too weak and too unable to cope with this Governments changes/cuts regime.

  • Sharp Ears

    How did Heath acquire his wealth? The cost of acquiring and maintaining FIVE Morning Clouds- ocean going yachts – must have been astronomical.

    Sailing is a very expensive occupation.

    Arundells, his house in Salisbury, was valued at £5million. The cost to him of restoring it and acquiring his art collection, which was housed there, must have been enormous.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arundells

  • giyane

    Mrs Thatcher’s friendship with Jimmy Savile demonstrates that personality disorders may sometimes be pursued vicariously, i.e. by personal association with those who perpetrate crimes. In Thatcher’s case she perverted the words of the Gospel, misinterpreting the concept of personal responsibility contained in the Gospels viz ‘ being faced with one’s own personal record on the Day of Judgement’ , and announcing from a church pulpit that personal responsibility meant ‘ looking after yourself financially instead of relying on the state ‘.

    There is obviously a lexical connection between the word vicar which means that you assume the authority of God to deliver spiritual services, and the word vicarious, which means you enjoy activities without actually doing them yourself. e.g I support the destruction of Syria but I want to live in the UK in perfect safety.

    Vicariousness will obviously flourish where the rules of ones religion totally forbid participation. I would argue that for the populations of the US and the UK the vicarious murder, rape and pillage by violent Islamist proxies in Muslim countries is very prevalent, same as the vicarious terrorising people by the proxy of owning a potentially child-molesting dog.

    So I’m not saying that the connection between vicar and vicariousness is exclusive to any one religion. I’m saying that all perversions in philosophy will inevitably lead to perversions in action. Garbage in , garbage out.
    If you put into your philosophical template that you will be held accountable for trashing a foreign population, you will not actually do it, out of fear for the repercussions. Islamist or any other terror is indeed a warped product of a distortion of Islam, or any other philosophy.

    Politicians are always using the slogans of morality to disguise their highly immoral intentions. That’s the problem with democracy. Craig has put his finger on a different problem, the connection between corrupt ideas and corrupt actions, and the human attempt to get closer to their depravities by association , while placing themselves further away from the exposure of their depravities by forcing the authorities to cover up what they have done.

  • Sharp Ears

    ‘Whippers in’. ‘Whips’

    The use of that strange word ‘whip’ has spread round to the parliaments of the so called ‘commonwealth’ and even to the Greek parliament in 2008.

    ‘By virtue of holding the office of Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury, the government chief whip has an official residence at 12 Downing Street, although the chief whip’s office is currently located at 9 Downing Street. Whips report to the prime minister on any possible backbench revolts and the general opinion of MPs within the party, and upon the exercise of the patronage, which is used to motivate and reward loyalty.’

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whip_(politics)

    Those currently in post in the HoC along with their ridiculous handles.

    As of 21 June 2017, the Conservative Government Whips in the Commons are:

    Chief Whip (Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury): The Rt Hon Gavin Williamson MP
    Deputy Chief Whip (Treasurer of HM Household): Julian Smith MP
    Whip (Comptroller of HM Household): Christopher Pincher MP
    Whip (Vice Chamberlain of HM Household): Chris Heaton-Harris MP

    Whips (Lords Commissioners of the Treasury):
    Guto Bebb MP
    The Rt Hon David Evennett MP
    Andrew Griffiths MP
    David Rutley MP
    Mark Spencer MP
    Heather Wheeler MP

    Assistant Whips:
    Nigel Adams MP
    Stuart Andrew MP
    Mike Freer MP
    Rebecca Harris MP
    Chloe Smith MP
    Andrew Stephenson MP
    Graham Stuart MP
    Craig Whittaker MP

  • Vronsky

    “I can only think of two explanations.”

    I can think of a third. You are saying is that the incidence of paedophiles in parliament greatly exceeds their incidence in the population at large. The same observation could be made about millionaires or the privately educated. Politicians are not a random sample of the people (would that they were – Google ‘sortition’). Powerful vested interests work tirelessly to ensure that government represents their interests, not ours.

    I can recall, perhaps you can too, the revelation a few years ago that every Labour councillor in North Lanarkshire was a Catholic. This, from a population which is 20% Catholic. Simple application of the binomial theorem gives the probability of this occurring by chance as extraordinarily close to zero (.2 to the power 17). Either we witnessed a secular miracle, or there was systematic bias in the selection of candidates.

    Likewise, if paedophiles are improbably over-represented in parliament then we are impelled to the conclusion that it is not random – systematic discrimination is at work.

    Paedophiles are easily controlled by anyone who might expose them, and political control is a wonderful thing. I suggest that there is no inexplicable statistical accident: the usual people hold the reins, and choose biddable horses.

    • Geordie Bordie

      “I can recall, perhaps you can too, the revelation a few years ago that every Labour councillor in North Lanarkshire was a Catholic. This, from a population which is 20% Catholic. Simple application of the binomial theorem gives the probability of this occurring by chance as extraordinarily close to zero (.2 to the power 17). Either we witnessed a secular miracle, or there was systematic bias in the selection of candidates.”

      You’d need to factor in the proportion of Catholics active in the local party.

      Did Protestants and others desert to the SNP, for example, or other parties.

    • giyane

      For any incident to take place there has to be a very determined effort by responsible people to be studiously looking the other way, in other words actively setting up the incident in order to redress some personal issue with historical abuse. Clement Freud’s female teenage victim was instructed to stay in the bed as she left by his wife. The controlling or blackmailing of the predator can only be inside a group of people, including victims, predators stooges and other blackmailers.

      USUKIS conducted systematic torture rendition, obviously not to extract information, but to mind-control a whole group of jihadist, terrorists, suicidists, right up to diplomats who would, like Boris Johnson, stand up in the House of Commons and diplomatically save the terrorist’ bacon by backing Al Qaida.

      Right now the US’s partner in crime in Syria Saudi Arabia, has opened up a new location for Islamist jihad in Myanmar. Without any shadow of a doubt the half million women and children etc of the community who had sent 300,000 young men to be trained in Saudi Arabia in 2013, must have been programmed to support the jihad. The people from the UK mosques who have quickly despatched themselves to Bangladesh to help them are also brain-washed to support the jihad.

      The participants in the GCHQ universal spying program includes not just nerds sitting at computers, but many layers of corporate and other institutional , like mosques, management all needed to be included in the loop.

      The idea that sexual abuse is done by lone wolves is totally ridiculous. in the ’60s and ’70’s my first wife’s family belonged to at least separate three circles of swinger mentality, in whose company children suffered abuse, one run by the Afghan Sufi Idries Shah, one by the descendants of sculptor and Calligrapher Eric Gill at music camp at Piggotts in Buckinghamshire, where Eric Gill used to live, one in the Alpine skiing set where my ex had been actually raped.

      Furthermore when she went to university in Canterbury there was a very organised promotion of sexual liberality organised by certain members of staff, which I also noticed in the managers of the University Student Accommodation company, Unite Students, where I recently worked. That might not count as paedophilia because they are university students. But I think Craig is wrong when he suggests that the organisation, grooming, preparation and facilitation of the young for sexual exploitation is rare. OK 2% of offenders against pre-pubescent get convicted, but the police are interviewing literally millions of people who download stuff about child porn. They are completely inundated.

      In this atmosphere, obviously there are a few extremely perverted individuals who target small children as well as a very large number who target older children and young adults. That’s life in the UK. Unite students accused me of wrong-doing, while they themselves are organising their tenants’ sex lives. But they are not Muslim, so I suppose they can do what they like.

  • Pete

    A very thoughtful post, Craig. It’s good to hear someone who is as concerned about this issue as we all should be, admitting that we just don’t know the answers regarding its prevalence and causes. Predictably, many of your commentators jump to the usual conclusions based on their own prejudices, without the slightest evidence. For instance the knee-jerk response- “it’s cos they all went to public schools.” The fact is we’ve no idea of the total incidence of these crimes, so obviously we can’t know the breakdown as regards education, class or anything else.

    To understand why, and if, many politicans are paedophiles we first need to understand why anyone would be a paedophile, and right now we don’t know- the waters are too muddied with self-serving lies to see clearly. Convicted paedophiles are a subset of the whole, we know almost nothing about the unconvicted majority. Those convicted have a powerful incentive to portray themselves as being also victims. The public image of paedophiles is largely based on celebrity offenders, who are a very small and unrepresentative minority. Even the definition of paedophilia is very unclear, and available statistics are almost useless. Most of the general public for example would not class as paedophilia an adult man who is sexually attracted to a girl of say, fourteen, many of whom nowadays could easily pass for early twenties.

    Unfortunately the biggest source of confusion at present is firstly the police policy of “trawling” for historic allegations, which inevitably attracts the kind of people who will make false allegations in the hope of gaining compensation payments. For this reason I think that inquiries should focus on those allegations made decades ago before the “compo culture” developed, and hushed up at the time, rather than on recent allegations made in response to police appeals.

    I have, by the way, met a very great many victims of child sexual abuse. The vast majority of the perpetrators were working class, same as their victims.

    • KingofWelshNoir

      ‘To understand why, and if, many politicans are paedophiles we first need to understand why anyone would be a paedophile.’

      Why do we need to do that?

      Saying ‘why anyone would be a paedophile’ implies it is volitional, something they take up like fishing. Surely it is sufficient to say we know paedophiles exist and we know that sexual blackmail has been a time-honoured way of controlling people in positions of power, so it should not greatly surprise if advancement goes to people who have such a predilection and can thus be more easily controlled.

      • Pete

        “Saying ‘why anyone would be a paedophile’ implies it is volitional, something they take up like fishing”.

        Well the law in this country, and so far as I know, all other countries, certainly assumes it is volitional, that is, people could choose not to do it, and if they chose to do it they ought to be punished. If they “couldn’t help it,” then surely the law would enforce treatment, rather than punishment, as in the case of crimes committed under the influence of psychotic delusions?

        My own suspicion is that it’s all about the sexualisation of power. Dominance and submission is a natural element of sexual attraction in humans and other social animals, but for most of us it just adds interest to an existing attraction. But for some people the power IS the attraction, therefore for them it doesn’t matter who they’re having sex with, so long as that person is under their control. This would also explain why men would pay for a hand job from an obvious methadone addict- when they have two hands of their own which cost nothing. It’s the fact that she is compelled to do it by desperate financial necessity that provides the attraction.

        There’s also the thrill of breaking what is nowadays about the only taboo we have left. Even the danger of getting caught would be very stimulating to some people.

        So I think paedophilia attracts people who are intensely attracted to power- who really get off on it- and perhaps who enjoy the added thrill of risking the destruction of a very high profile reputation and getting away with it. Moving in high profile respectable circles, having dinner with the chief constable while knowing that you’d be committing a sex crime later on that evening would give an added thrill.

        The culture of the old-school parliamentary whips and MI5 wouldn’t draw more paedophiles into politics, but it would ensure they stayed there longer even after they got caught.

        The power of a shared secret would also motivate them to advance one another’s careers.

        • KingofWelshNoir

          Yes performing a sexual act against a child is volitional in that they could choose not to do it, but presumably being a paedophile, i.e. being sexually attracted to children, is not volitional; otherwise why would anyone choose to be like that?

          ‘The culture of the old-school parliamentary whips and MI5 wouldn’t draw more paedophiles into politics, but it would ensure they stayed there longer even after they got caught.’

          It wouldn’t draw more in but it might well ensure that of those drawn to politics more paedophiles were allowed in, for all the reasons previously stated.

          ‘The power of a shared secret would also motivate them to advance one another’s careers.’

          I agree and made a similar point earlier in the thread about members of the Mafia having to commit a murder in order to become a ‘made man’. As social outcasts they would naturally have strong ties of loyalty to each other, and the threat of exposure would ensure even more loyalty.

  • Julian

    I think there is another dimension to this: I like to call it the “Psychopath Theory of Politics” .

    The classic definition of a psychopath, or if you like a sociopath (non-violent psychopath) is “Risk taking, superficial charm, lack of empathy, impulsivity, setting short-term goals, no emotions except anger, no social controls on harming other people, and usually a bully.”

    It is estimated that 1-4% of the population is a psychopath; unfortunately most psychopaths who are studied are in long-term incarceration. I think this skews the result; we don’t have much on “successful” sociopaths, the “Snakes in Suits” (book) who keep under the radar, while still doing enormous emotional harm.

    Recently research has shown that a significant number of business leaders are psychopaths. See here for example: https://brainfodder.org/ceo-psychopath/ Some estimates suggest that 25% of leading businesspeople have psychopathic characteristics.

    However, I am not aware of any study of politicians where they were assessed for psychopathy. In my estimation (and unfortunately I have interacted with several psychopaths personally) being a business leader is not the best fit for these creatures. Good business people have to follow long-term plans, make calm, non-impulsive decisions, be good at managing people. So therefore I have theorised for some time that the ideal career for a psychopath is to be a politician. Lying is pretty much mandatory; you don’t need any qualifications (most psychopaths cannot stick at one thing for very long); deceit, cruelty, bullying and lack of empathy, while toadying to your superiors, would suit most psychopaths well – there is also their narcissism/egomania to be fed.

    So I would expect that quite a large number of people in the House of Commons would be psychopaths, across all parties.

    This is not to discount the other theories expressed in this thread. Politics attracts weird people; Nick Duffell’s books about the damage inflicted by Public School were mentioned. That’s pretty much an induction course in psychopathy.

    As psychopaths revel in power over other people, they might well abuse children, not necessarily because they were attracted to them, but because they are driven, above all else, by the need to dominate another person, and humiliate/abuse them. All the psychopaths I have met were bullies and narcissists. Even while they appeared to be lovely people to those they chose to show that face to.

    I can think of numerous politicians who immediately struck me as being psychopathic. I think I can spot them now. I don’t want to name anyone, but can you think of a recent prime minister who was charming, glib, amoral, deceitful, and egomaniacal, without a shred of conscience? Yep, we’re probably thinking about the same permatanned bloke.

  • defo

    Nicely done Craig.
    Leave the obvious explanation to BTL crew.
    Power, and how to control it, for dummies 😉

  • Glenn

    Good question Craig.

    Could another factor could be that the halls of power could be more stacked than mainstream society generally with people who are ripe for blackmail? So those in power ensure access to paedophiles precisely because they are pliable?

  • Paul Barbara

    Here is a Forum where you can do a bit of research (I post on it as ‘outsider’):
    ‘The War On Children, Marriage and the Family’:
    http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewforum.php?f=35&sid=8ac48bc238466e10cfbff95cbb86f874
    I am also a member of a group that campaigns against paedophilia.
    If anyone REALLY wants to know more about the subject, here are a few books and videos:
    ‘Access Denied: For Reasons Of National Security’ by Cathy O’Brien and Mark Phillips;
    ‘Cathy O’Brien Ex Illuminati Mind Control Victim’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAGsg6ncXDo
    ‘The Franklin Cover-up’ by John DeCamp;
    ‘Government Child Abuse (BANNED Discovery Channel Documentary) | The Franklin Cover-up’:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AFrMpQxbmk
    ‘Why Johhny Can’t Come Home’ by Noreen Gosch;
    ‘WHY JOHNNY CAN’T COME HOME (JOHNNY GOSCH): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym7x2hC0m1M

    On a broader perspective, abusing children has been a method for witches (and Satanists) to gain power for centuries.
    This won’t be believed by people who don’t believe in God and the Devil, so rather than slag me off for believing such twaddle, why not just ignore my post if that is the way you think.

    Here is a recent case of a bankster who was required to sacrifice a child (he resigned rather than do it):
    ‘Illuminati Banker Interview: Ronald Bernard [NL/ENG] #1’: (subtitles) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0hb8dfKN8k

    The ‘Security Sevices’ in Northern Ireland allowed a paedophile ring to operate in a boy’s home in Northern Ireland, Kincora, for three years in order to be able to blackmail politicians using it, mostly Unionists.

    There are links to 4 videos above, which show that peadophilia often runs in tandem with Mind Control and human sacrifice, as well as ‘snuff movies’.

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