Here are Tim Norman, Patrick Henningsen and myself discussing the Skripal charade, at the Beautiful Days Festival near Exeter. At the start 90% of the audience said they believed the official narrative. At the end 80% had changed their mind.
I am particularly proud of this because we were comparatively close to Salisbury and it was mostly an apolitical audience of interested locals.
I look like I had been sleeping under a hedge for four days. Well, I more or less had. It was a music festival. In a sense convincing so many people, when I could not have looked less like an authority figure, is still more satisfying.
Tim Norman has a much longer version of his presentation and we shall try to do this together again soon, hopefully actually in Salisbury. Patrick Henningsen is a journalist of great integrity: he has been consistently interested and engaged in this story.
I had plans to make a documentary which were put aside during covid. I might try to run a conditional crowdfunder in a little while, where the money is withheld unless enough is collected to deliver the project.
Attention of course moves on, but the Salisbury lie still features in Starmer’s Russophobic and militaristic rhetoric, and in a sense this story is more important than ever.
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Okay, so where are they?
Are they dead?
Safe and sound, living with Sir Keir’s Ukranian rent boys.
I expect so, unless they were prepared to have an identity change and disappear in return for a pension.
I haven’t watched stroke listened to the video yet, I’m saving it until later for my bedtime viewing, but what would be really good, and I’m sure would reach a lot of people, would be a leaflet of however many pages, say three or four pages, six eight sides, exposing the Salisbury poisonings for the Sham that they were. I can’t remember the percentage now of the top of my head, but if 90% of the audience believed the official narrative at the beginning, a 90% a change their minds by the end, then I’m sure the same would be the case with a leaflet the key thing of course, is at the end of the leaflet in bold, to say please circulate to friends and relatives and work colleagues etc etc.
My apologies, I thought this post would appear at the end of the comments, as they stand, and I really don’t know what happened. So my apologies for pushing in.
PS I should add that the leaflet would be held together with a paper clip so as to make it easy for people to copy or to scan. And apart from the first page with the heading, the pages numbered. And needless to say, I’m sure there are lots of people who would be more than happy to run off a hundred or two or three or four or five hundred copies, and stick them through people’s doors. I know I would!
Thank you Craig for addressing this question, which leaves us with more unanswered questions of course. If the Skripals are now detained in Canada, then perhaps one day they will be freed to speak their truth? The incredible breadth of the multinational cooperation to the official narrative is breathtaking. The fiction starts with the fake chemical weapons white helmets in Syria in 2013, which coincides with the Senate committee presentation by Victoria Nuland, prior to the Maidan in Ukraine, in which she explains the plan to draw Russia into Ukraine by supporting the shelling of the Russian speaking Ukrainian Oblasts. Also central to the whole was the role which Russia had in Syria, to keep the borders secure, along with protecting its gas and oil pipelines which ran parallel to the American owned ones. This was longstanding, on the basis of agreements originally brokered by Kissinger and then renegotiated by Netanyahu with Putin, over the years, to allow the Occupation of the Golan Heights, but Russia was an obstacle to Israel’s expansionist plans and its intentions towards Iran. Victoria Nuland stated that the plan for Ukraine was an unwinnable war which would deplete Russian manpower and resources and take them away from the Middle East. She said she regretted the ‘sacrifice of the Ukrainian people’ and when asked whether the war might spill over into Europe, replied ‘Fuck Europe’. So why are we getting so ensnared in this colonial enterprise, rather than making an effort to manage our own in-house predicaments?
It would have been Kissinger who was the architect of the whole, if he was still alive, so who is the architect now? I sometimes wonder if Kissinger is still alive, hooked up to a constant supply of the blood of young virgins…
Interesting. What is your source for the Nuland presentation? Correct me if I am wrong but it doesn’t sound like something in the public domain.
I was confident for a long time that Bernie’s Facebook page shared the footage, but doubt has been sown and now I think it might have been Democracy Now, that shared it many years ago. Anyway I watched it and those few phrases I have quoted stayed with me. She has similarly stated ‘Fuck the EU’ in a different clip somewhere else. Anyway the allies are all toeing the line, no matter how far fetched the narrative is stretched.
Craig has nailed some key individuals in this interview, connecting them across controversial events where state actors must be shielded from ethical investigation.
Most likely. “Dead men (and women) tell no tales”.
And besides – they’re only Russians.
“At the start 90% of the audience said they believed the official narrative. At the end 80% had changed their mind.”
No wonder they banged you up.
It would be amazing to do this in Salisbury itself.
The role played by the chief nurse of the British army is a powerful persuader, I think – capable of getting an attention spike from many Official Story Believers. Possibly more so even than Exercise Toxic Dagger.
In a similar vein, I want to remind people how healthy it is to get out to festivals or even the pub and talk to other humans.
I randomly got chatting to 2 students in my local pub visiting from Salisbury, and they shared the general disbelief their community showed at the time to the official government narrative. They also mentioned this incident, about 1 year after the Skripal event, another false flag you could say!
Someone had procured a exceptionally large Russian flag (10m x 7m, difficult to source I imagine), climbing scaffold in an area where cameras were present, and placed it prominently beside the cathedral. No culprit was ever identified.
Certainly the kind of “joke” that Army insiders would appreciate amongst themselves.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-wiltshire-47270827
“MI5 Go Mad in Salisbury” by Enit Blytie with Foreward by Porten Down
Poor Noddy’s little car had to be buried in a landfill site near Cheltenham, but this presented absolutely no danger to the public.
Having seen the Youtube video of the ‘rebel tent’ event, I took seriously the report of the doctor’s testimony and it led me to think of an alternative hypothesis. There may have been a third agent who has never been found, call that party Agent 3, who did the spraying which Julia signalled about to the doctor by blinking. Agents 1 and 2 were the GRU men, assistants who carried gear, contaminated the Skripal’s doorhandle as a diversion, with gloved hands (and promptly discarded the equipment). The box which was supposed to have been sealed by a heating device in a toilet was actually a new spare set of kit that wasn’t used, and just dumped.
I’m not convinced that the GRU men were innocent tourists, and I believe the government are right to deal firmly with what they believe to be Russian state terrorism.
OK, that takes care of one discrepancy, just nineteen more odd to go and the story might just be plausible if not looked at too closely.
If you choose to believe the foundation of the whole absurd farrago – that the Russian government is somehow champing at the bit to get at and harm British people – there is probably no reasoning with you.
On top of the 50 or so contradictions, impossibilities, etc. mentioned by others, there is simply no reason why Russia would want to do such things. As Mr Putin himself said in a brief comment long ago, Skripal himself was a despicable creature who betrayed his country for money. (Admittedly at a time when, thanks to Western machinations, Russia was falling apart and many were dying of starvation). Skripal served a prison sentence in Russia and was then exchanged. Living in retirement in England, he was of no possible interest to Russia. We can be certain that, if he had possessed any dangerous information, he would not have been allowed to leave Russia.
To my mind, the most astonishing and frightening aspect of the whole business is the contempt with which our own government regards us – the citizens of the UK. It issues a stream of ridiculous nonsense that would not deceive a child; and the people lap it up.
John Helmer has just published a book called Long Live Novichok. He has lived and reported from Russia since 1989. I haven’t read the book but I do listen to Helmer’s analyses when they come up on YouTube and find them very interesting.
I strongly recommend anything by Mr Helmer. His blog “Dances with Wolves” is essential reading, along with Andre Martyanov’s “Reminiscence of the Future”. They complement (and from time to time compliment) one another, as Mr Martyanov is a military expert while Mr Helmer focuses on politics.
They are both ruthlessly honest, which can get a lot people’s backs up. Not unlike Mr Murray.
Good heavens, I’m amazed that 90% of your audience actually believed the “official” narrative and that 10% refused to convert. It was blatantly a farrago of deceit and contradictions from the outset, the sheer incompetence of the script writing becoming ever clearer as new incidents surfaced over time, e.g. the protocol evasions during the OPCW “investigation”. But more than anything else, the total harmony of the mighty MSM wurlitzer gave it away, an orchestral production familiar from the Corbyn smear campaign.
Thank you for the analysis of a watershed moment in the decline and fall of British democracy. A cautionary tale for anyone hoping to understand deep state performative art in future.
For two or three years after the Skripal hospitalisation Salisbury resident Rob Slane, with the help of a team of active commenters, ran a sustained and well-informed campaign against the official Skripal story on his blog ‘theblogmire.com’. Eventually Slane declared he had done all he could do, retired from the fray and closed his blog down. I don’t know whether its contents might be still be available on the wayback machine.
However some of Slane’s arguments and conclusions are still accessible elsewhere on the internet, for instance at https://ronpaulinstitute.org/the-salisbury-poisonings-two-years-on-a-riddle-wrapped-in-a-cover-up-inside-a-hoax/