Staggering Hypocrisy 274


The outgoing Head of MI6 Richard Moore has formally admitted in a public speech in Istanbul that MI6 has been cooperating with HTS in Syria – a proscribed organisation under the Terrorism Act – for years.

The government is arresting little old ladies for holding signs supporting one proscribed organisation, Palestine Action, while it admits it has been actively supporting another proscribed organisation. HTS was proscribed as a division of Al Qaida, as shown on the government website:

As I learnt while in Lebanon, the British support for HTS included intelligence support, training and weapons, based at secret UK bases in the Bekaa valley, including inside the Rayak airbase. It also included support via an NGO named Inter-Mediate, run by current British National Security Adviser Jonathan Powell, who is Tony Blair’s old Downing Street Chief of Staff.

In the UK neither the government nor the security services stand above the law. The fact that neither Moore nor Powell nor any of those on the ground directly involved in actively and substantively supporting HTS – a proscribed organisation – has been arrested, while people are arrested for holding a placard supporting Palestine Action because it is a proscribed organisation, is the very definition of arbitrary and oppressive government.

The impartial rule of law in the UK has collapsed completely. All of this was material support to a proscribed organisation.


Powell with al Jolani

Meanwhile we have Starmer’s hollow gesture of recognising Palestine. This is designed to placate those in the Labour Party who are horrified by the Genocide in Gaza.  As it is accompanied by zero intention to limit or even acknowledge the Genocide, it is the very definition of a useless gesture.

Palestine was already recognised by three quarters of the nations of the world.  What Starmer believes he has furthered is a Bantustan state, hopelessly divided between an obliterated Gaza, small and isolated remnants of the West Bank and what remains of East Jerusalem. That these fissiparous remnants could ever constitute a viable state is plainly impossible – which is the idea.

Furthermore Starmer attacks the very definition of a state by insisting that the Palestinians can be told who they must have to rule them. The notion that the traitor Abbas and his Palestinian Authority would ever be chosen by the Palestinian people is utter nonsense. Furthermore Macron and Starmer have both specified that a Palestinian state must be disarmed, have no armed forces, and lie prey to the genocidal state next door at all times. The Saudi/French plan even states that Israel should have vetting control over the appointment of individual Palestinian police officers!

The only virtue to this act of recognition is that it will make it more difficult politically for the UK not to react with the first genuine sanctions against Israel once Israel formally annexes Gaza or the West Bank. It is thus a very minor political improvement. With the British government already having repudiated the UN Commission of Inquiry’s finding of Genocide, the attack on Gaza in full flow, and the Global Sumud Flotilla very likely to be met by Israel with deadly force, Starmer is, as usual, completely out of touch with public opinion if he believes he has reduced political pressure over his complicity in Genocide.

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274 thoughts on “Staggering Hypocrisy

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  • Republicofscotland

    If true, will they be prosecuted on return, I recall seeing a photo of Brits dressed in combats – standing next to Boris Johnson, the Brits were preparing to head to Israel – and help the IOF carry out murder.

    “Before recognizing the state of Palestine, it was legal for British nationals to join IOF. Now, under the Foreign Enlistment Act of 1870, it’s an offense for British nationals to enlist in the military of a foreign state that is at war with another state w/which UK is at peace.”

  • BT

    Great article! MI6 is guilty to have triggered world instability in Syria. Nobody asked them to do that, nobody asked them to go there – and Bachar did nothing wrong. This shows that MI6 and others cosmically bear full responsibility for their actions. The only discrepancy is artificial, and is their way for presenting the matter. This does not change what’s true.

    • Republicofscotland

      There’s much discussion on Syria here – did you know that Mi6 agent Hamish de Bretton – who founded the Free Syrian Police Force, to try and counter the real Syrian police force, that his creation is now the police force of Syria, Bretton also wanted the White Helmets to become the recognised Fire and Rescue Service of Syria.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5MCWYpigAY

      You may find the below interesting as well.

      The only problem with the below – is that the Syrian people aren’t allowed to vote in it.

      “SYRIAN PARLIAMENTARY ELECTIONS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT MONTH – EXCEPT THERE IS NO ACTUAL VOTING

      This upcoming October, Syria will have its parliamentary elections. And the procedure for these elections is absolutely insane. There are 210 members of the new post-Assad Syrian legislature. Only 191 will be up for election as the election is being postponed in the regions dominated by the U.S.-backed Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces.

      But that’s not even the insane part. No no no. How elections worked during the era of Assad and the Ba’athist Party is that the representatives of the People’s Assembly of Syria were directly elected by the popular will of the Syrian voters among a coalition of political parties and choices that included:

      ▪️ Ba’athist Party

      ▪️ SSNP

      ▪️ Syrian Communist Party

      ▪️ Various Arab Socialist Parties in Syria

      ▪️ Independent Politicians

      ▪️ And much more

      All of these factions were represented within the People’s Assembly.

      However, under the new election procedures, there will be no voting at all by the Syrian people. 121 of the 191 members will be “elected” by electoral subcommittees that are appointed by the HTS (Al Qaeda) government in Damascus, made up mostly of Wahhabi militants and technocrats. It’s not even like the U.S. electoral college where the popular vote winner of each state determines the electoral vote. Damascus just appoints this electoral college and the Syrian people get no vote at all.

      The remaining 70 delegates will be appointed directly by self-declared Syrian President, Al Qaeda and ISIS leader, and known terrorist Abu Mohammed al-Jolani. And the “Free Syria” crowd who lobbied for regime change against Bashar al-Assad actually thought they were bringing democracy to Syria. Some of the biggest frauds of all time.”

      https://nitter.poast.org/Tracking_Power/status/1970348450374979811#m

        • Republicofscotland

          Squeeth

          Just the other day in New York (UN), ex-US military General Petraeus met with the suited and booted, and now Syrian president, al-Jolani, though he calls himself something else now, Petraeus, acted like an old friend with Jolani, the numero uno headchopper of the proscribed terrorist outfit (HTS) -all the usual fawning and back slapping went on, whilst the USA’s governments, wanted page – still had the $10 million dollars reward for al-Jolani’s arrest up .

        • Urban Fox

          No no British selections are much worse, no-one in Syria believes this shite is democratic. There’s plenty of delusional f*ckwittery in the UK.

          The best part of this affair is, a massive expense the West has yet another murderous failed state to prop up.

          Nice one chaps.

      • Pears Morgaine

        ” How elections worked during the era of Assad and the Ba’athist Party is that the representatives of the People’s Assembly of Syria were directly elected by the popular will of the Syrian voters among a coalition of political parties and choices that included. ”

        Important missing fact:- Two thirds of the 250 seats in the Syrian parliament were reserved for the Ba’ath party. They couldn’t lose.

        • Goose

          How did we get here?

          There was nothing organic about foreign mercenaries flooding into a country to exploit the Sunni – Shia dynamics, with the aim of creating a Sunni dominated state, because having a Sunni -dominated Syria, hostile to Iran, suited US, Israel and UK regional interests. Syria was basically turned into a dysfunctional state, wracked by civil war, by decisions made by Zionists with influence in Washington. These people exploit the naivety and ignorance of our own people to do horrible things.

          • Stevie Boy

            Crippling western sanctions.
            USA, with Turkey’s help, openly stealing Syrian oil.
            Special forces and white helmets stirring up trouble.
            International inaction.
            Syria didn’t fail it was failed, it was sabotaged.
            Iran and Venezuela are now undergoing the same treatment.
            Same playbook, same suspects, nothing changes.

          • Stevie Boy

            Apparently, Assad didn’t fully understand his precarious position and was difficult to work with !
            Nevertheless, Russia saved his butt.

        • Bayard

          “Important missing fact:- Two thirds of the 250 seats in the Syrian parliament were reserved for the Ba’ath party. They couldn’t lose.”

          How were the people who filled those seats chosen; were they appointed without a vote?

          • Urban Fox

            Don’t argue to a pro-NATOist clearly the current Syrian system of headchopping bandit rule.

            Is preferable because it comports with our democratic international rules-based values of who we are

      • BT

        Thanks – that’s all pretty insane indeed

        Well. The toppling of Assad is itself a whole event. At the time, all fingers were pointed at Turkey. This was very very bugging to me. At the same time, Israel proudly announced that it was helping the operation by bombing a part of Syria. (I don’t believe that Turkey had anything to do with this).

        And then, we got that criminal seizing the power. Performing a coup. An old al-Q. operative. AND THE GUY speaks of “LGBT rights”

        I mean – this was the cherry on the cake – and sufficient to me to stop cold.

        Then, “Assad flew the country”. By plane – and “went to Moscow”… Since then, there has been no footage from Bachar. After his country got taken down by a coup, by a LGBT leader. So, I assume that Bachar is not among us any more. Pretty sad.

        And today, we got that Jolani guy going to Moscow, as a representative? I mean what’s that mess?? Those guys don’t know about karma, accountability and things like that. Or believe that such things will “happen later” – or else.

        Forgive me because this makes me very angry, especially given all the efforts that Russia has been developping along the years, to build a good Syrian govt. It’s obvious to me that something is off, and that this will not last in the present context (clowns, aberration).

        • Crispa

          I think Jolani right now is being feted in New York at the UN General Assembly and has taken over from Zelenski as the darling of the West. No need to talk about hypocrisy when it is staring you in the face.

  • Harry Law

    Of the 22 members of the Arab league, at least 7 have been bombed by US/Israel, Yemen, Syria, Qatar, Palestine, Libya, Lebanon and Iraq. So much for Arab unity, when will they realize that Israel/US will bring the hammer down on any Arab state which does not follow Imperial instructions. Just a mild threat of sanctions or US use of financial pressure on them is enough for them to fold. US/EU theft of Russian foreign reserves could not make nuclear Russia fold, a proud, independent, self respecting Federation. On the other hand many of the other Arab states have no self respect and are sniveling cowards. At the recent 57 nation Arab and Muslim get together no action against Israel/US was taken, non at all, either military, financial or diplomatic, just waving their fists in futile frustration, the mice that roared.
    Here is what Mahatma Gandhi thought of cowards….
    “I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence….I would rather have India resort to arms in order to defend her honour than that she should, in a cowardly manner, become or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonour”.
    https://www.mkgandhi.org/momgandhi/chap28.php

      • Goose

        Trump is totally chaotic.

        I really hope he does drive India, China and Russia together, plus Iran and N.Korea et al – into some sort of military and trade alliance that can truly stand up to the US & its allies. It’s not about taking sides, West vs East, it’s about preserving multipolarity. Nobody in their right mind could want this Trumpian US, backed by evil lackey, US agents of influence in the EU, reigning supreme in a unipolar world. They have forfeited any moral leadership and respect they had among our citizenry.

        • Bayard

          All Trump has done has been to take off the kid gloves and drop the pretences. Now we can see the US regime for what it really is and has been for at least the last 80 years if not befpre that. No wonder he’s so hated.

        • Stevie Boy

          Actually, what Trump is doing is good.
          Alienating India, China, Russia, UK, Europe is good. If the west can move away from the malign influence of America it’ll be better for everyone.
          However, we are cursed with governments who revel in their Stockholm syndrome, so I’m not optimistic.

          • Bayard

            “However, we are cursed with governments who revel in their Stockholm syndrome, so I’m not optimistic.”

            That presupposes out governments are prisoners,when in fact they are more like warders.

  • M.J.

    A review of the film Palestine 36 by Sucharita Tyagi, interesting because she sees similarity to the situation in British India depicted in Indian films not known in the West:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6HH0ZE8RqE
    Here is an Al-Jazeera report on the film premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c-k4vsxeZw
    Here’s the Q&A session following the premiere including an actor who grew up in Jaffa as a Palestinian:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5pT7dqPius

  • Willie

    As this article once again exposes the arms the security apparatus and other mechanisms of the British state are utterly foul in their actions both at home and abroad.

    Fomenting insurrection, supporting terrorists, arming terrorists, supporting murder its all in play. That is what Britain does, has done, and continues to do around the world. And they’ll do it at home too as Northern Ireland showed with the British dark military security services arming loyalist terror groups and directing them to murder republican supporting people like lawyers Pat Finucaine and Rosemary Nelson. Advancing timers on bombs, or in fact placing bombs that would kill innocent folks to discredit Ithe Irish independence movement was also part of the foul game.

    Of course such practices, like special forces putting a bomb on a kids school bus to discredit support against for the overthrow of white rule in Rhodesia us another example of the tried and tested British play book.

    So no surprise and of course the arrest of little old ladies as you describe it Craig is just another more anodyne mechanism of control practiced in our own backyard.

    And that simply is how Britain works. The blood has never dried on the British empire.

    • Bayard

      Nice try, but one guy attempting and failing to make the case that the war is not going well on Russian TV is not exactly significant. If you presuppose that Putin has the entire media in a vice-like grip and that everything is completely controlled, it might be, but in the real world, that is not the case, so it isn’t.

      Anyway, wasn’t this all supposed to be “Russian disinfo” according to the patronising little icon in the bottom right hand corner of the screen?
      That must mean that those sneaky Russians want us to think that the war is going badly.

      • JK redux

        Bayard
        September 24, 2025 at 08:43

        Flailing about a bit there.

        Yes, Russian broadcast media are in a vice-like grip .

        But also limited permission is granted to alternative voices.

        And sometimes unpleasant realities emerge.

        To the evident discomfort of the programme host.

        Consider this; if Putin’s war in Ukraine was a rip roaring success, no alternative voices would slip though as there would be no alternative reality to suppress.

        • Urban Fox

          Actually the opposite of things were going badly naysayers would be suppressed, not given a primetime-slot to implicitly encourage people not to slack off.

          Anyway it’s not the Russians whom are resorting to press-gangs and working with a population at 60-55% what it was 1991.

          If Russia is unsuccessful, Ukraine is thrice cursed and beyond f*cking doomed.

    • Crispa

      Russian media outfit “Readovka” which tracks the fighting pretty closely then is clearly being dishonest when it reports this morning with its usual map:
      “The Russian forces of the Vostok group continue to successfully advance in the Zaporizhzhia region, aiming to cut off the communications of Gulyai-Pole and sever the logistical artery connecting the local Ukrainian garrison with the city of Pokrovskoye. Following their success in storming Ternovoye, our units have successfully expelled the enemy from the villages of Novonikolaevka, Berezovoye, Kalinovskoye, Novoivanovka, and the village of Olgovskoye. The high rate of movement of Russian units in the southern sector of the South-Donbas direction is explained both by the partial inadequacy of the enemy’s fortifications and by the lack of personnel”.

      • Goose

        Fever that causes sufferers to bleed from their eyes breaks out in Russian ranks.

        Troops from the Akhmat Battalion are falling sick with hantavirus, a rodent-borne disease known as ‘mouse fever’

        Russian forces in Kharkiv reportedly experienced an explosion of cases in 2023, with Ukraine’s military intelligence directorate (GUR) claiming at the time that the virus was “mowing down” the Kremlin’s troops “en masse”.

        Makes you wonder whether Ukraine are using biological or germ warfare? Wouldn’t rule out anything when desperate.

        • Goose

          Last year, Ukrainian forces began deploying hovering drones equipped with tanks full of thermite, a metal incendiary that sprays like a liquid and burns as hot as 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit. This is warfare, it’s vicious.

          • Goose

            Also late last year, a Russian general, Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov, was assassinated in Moscow, he was chief of Russia’s Nuclear, Biological and Chemical protection brigade. He’d previously presented alleged evidence of secret U.S.-funded biolabs in Ukraine. Some of those in the Trump administration made the same claims, in opposition; that Ukraine was operating secret bioweapon labs, Tulsi Gabbard and Robert Kennedy Jr., for example.

          • justin

            Oops, indeed. At the end of the article, it says:

            Editor’s Note (August 24, 2023): This article contains partial information which may lead readers to conclude that the U.S. Department of Defense admitted to operating biological weapons laboratories – “biolabs” – inside Ukraine. What the U.S. government confirmed was the funding/operation of biological laboratories researching certain diseases and pathogens in Ukraine. The Russian government has long claimed that these labs were also conducting (or could in the future conduct) research and development on chemical and biological weaponry. Many Q-Anon and other right-wing conspiracy theorists have repeated the Russian accusations. The implication of the above article is that, given the U.S.’ long and atrocious record of conducting chemical and biological warfare in places like Korea, Cuba, and Iraq, such a possibility is not outside the realm of believability. It does not directly claim, however, that such development has occurred. It does report on demands by China, though, that the U.S. fully disclose the nature of the research it collaborated on with Ukraine. At this time, there is no confirmed evidence of chemical or biological weapons research being carried out at the labs in question.

          • Republicofscotland

            Justin.

            The disclaimers doesn’t outright say the biolabs aren’t there – its a half arsed disclaimer to protect the newsrag, and it clearly points out in the disclaimer that the USA has form in this field.

            “Judicial Watch announced today it received 345 pages of records from the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA), a component of the U.S. Department of Defense, revealing that the United States funded anthrax laboratory activities in a Ukrainian biolab in 2018. Dozens of pages are completely redacted, and many others are heavily redacted. The records show over $11 million in funding for the Ukraine biolabs program in 2019.

            The records were obtained in response to a February 28, 2022, Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the Defense Threat Reduction Agency for records regarding the funding of Black & Veatch involving work of any manner with biosafety laboratories in the country of Ukraine.

            Three phases of work are discussed in the records, several of which are indicated to have occurred “on site” at the Ukrainian labs.”

            The Report.

            https://www.judicialwatch.org/documents/ukraine-biolabs-november-2022/

          • Republicofscotland

            Oops 2.0

            ” Far more serious is the role played by Hunter Biden in setting up a US network of biolabs in Ukraine, promoted and funded by the Pentagon. Irrefutable evidence comes from an investigation published on 24 March 2022 by The National Pulse, a U.S. centre for investigative journalism based in Washington. Centre for Investigative Journalism: “Rosemont Seneca Technology Partners (RSTP), whose CEOs are Hunter Biden and Christopher Heinz, stepson of former Obama Secretary of State John Kerry, has in its portfolio Metabiota, a San Francisco-based company whose stated purpose is to detect, track and analyse emerging infectious diseases, working closely with Anthony Fauci’s National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID). “As evidenced by Metabiota’s contracts with the US Department of Defense and Ukrainian bio labs, Metabiota received an $18.4 million grant in 2014 for research projects in Ukraine, including the isolation of strains of deadly pathogens such as African swine fever virus. Researchers from Metabiota and three Ukrainian institutes have carried out the complete genome sequencing of a virulent African swine fever virus from a domestic pig in Ukraine”.

            As a documented investigation by the Russian Federation also shows, it is not credible that the more than 30 bio-labs set up directly and indirectly by the United States in Ukraine were intended to conduct research on deadly viruses in order to protect the Ukrainian population from them. If that were the case, there would have been no need for more than 30 laboratories, and if the purpose was civilian, there would have been no need for the research and experiments to be commissioned by the Pentagon. An international investigation should be launched into the activities of the bio-labs in Ukraine, which are part of more than 300 bio-labs established by the US in 36 countries around the world.

            Robert Kennedy Jr. made it clear in an interview with Fox News Channel host Tucker Carlson (August 2023):

            “We have biological labs in Ukraine because we develop biological weapons. These biological weapons use all kinds of new synthetic biology, genetic engineering techniques that were not available to the previous generation“.”

          • Goose

            Who knows what the truth is? The current US Director of National Intelligence thought the evidence supported the claims.

            You do know that numerous OPCW staff have come forward (iirc. it was four at the last count) claiming not only were they threatened by senior US and UK officials at the organization, but despicable threats were made against members of their families. Knowing that, why do you simply believe western narratives?

        • Crispa

          Well I did suggest that Readovka might be lying, but from what I can tell from the respective maps and accounts there is more that one Novonikolaevka – your substack link refers to one in the Sumi region, the latest is somewhere the other side in Zaporizhia.

        • Urban Fox

          Because they’re not actually successful, strictly speaking.

          The AFU getting themselves needlessly killed trying to repeatedly re-take land they can’t hold. Against an enemy willing to trade ground for blood and with more firepower & numbers isn’t a win.

          Plenty of Ukrainians are pissed at the useless PR offensives and rampant waste of lives. Knowing full well the actual casualty & population ratios make this self-destructive.

          It’s why the AFU recruitment & desertion rate is becoming a huge problem too.

      • Goose

        Zelenskyy is demanding sanctions on China. Talk about getting above your station.

        He’s like spoilt brat Veruca Salt

        I want the world
        I want the whole world…
        …Give it to me
        Now!

        Trump called Russia a ‘paper tiger’ and claimed a top military would have won the war in a week. Is that true? Guerrilla campaigns are very hard to completely defeat as the US discovered in Iraq and Afghanistan. Well-armed ones even more so.

        At the start of the Russian invasion Ukraine had 1.2 million personnel – 209,000 active military personnel, along with around 102,000 paramilitary forces and 900,000 in reserves, many of whom were well-trained. This was a much larger army than the UK or other European countries. Ukraine has received approximately $360 billion in total aid from various countries since the start of the war. Had Ukraine been fighting alone it clearly would be over.

        Ukraine is a country existing purely on western credit; all Ukraine’s govt functions: local govt; civil service and armed forces wages are paid by the West. It’s a bizarre, unique precedented situation. For Trump to talk as if Ukraine has been fighting alone is ridiculous.

        • JK redux

          Goose
          September 24, 2025 at 14:58

          Not only did Trump claim that a top military would have won the war in a week but also Putin expected to win in a week.

          Two master strategists.

          • Goose

            JK redux

            Russia expected Ukraine would simply yield, but backed by the western powers, the US & UK, and at their urging, Ukraine’s leadership chose to fight.

            Was that sensible on their part?

            Had they fled Kyiv, and let Russia appoint a Russia-friendly president – likely deposed leader, Viktor Yanukovych – who would’ve at least had the semblance of a democratic mandate, then that may have been enough for Russia?

          • JK redux

            Goose
            September 24, 2025 at 16:13

            The Nazis expected the USSR to collapse when the Wehrmacht “kicked in the rotten door”.

            Think of the lives that would have been saved if Stalin had fled Moscow for London.

            Of course the evil Zapad contributed significant amounts of military and civil aid to the extent that had the USSR been fighting alone it likely would have been defeated.

            The parallels with Putin’s war against Ukraine are not exact though they are obvious…

          • Pears Morgaine

            ” Had they fled Kyiv, and let Russia appoint a Russia-friendly president – likely deposed leader, Viktor Yanukovych – who would’ve at least had the semblance of a democratic mandate, then that may have been enough for Russia? ”

            No it would not. They’d have appointed a Kremlin puppet to run the country under Russian direction. there would not have been even a semblance of democratic process. We know this because it’s precisely what they’ve done in Crimea and the occupied Donbas area.

          • Republicofscotland

            “Think of the lives that would have been saved if Stalin had fled Moscow for London.”

            JK redux @16.24pm.

            On the above it really worked for De Gaulle (not) when he fled to London in 1940 – in anycase, if Stalin had fled to London – the Russians might not have pushed the WWII Nazi’s right back to Berlin, which was known as the Race to Berlin, which ultimately might have seen the war prolonged and more Western deaths deaths occurring, and who knows the West might not have tried to terrorise its citizens post-WWII – with Operation Gladio, if Stalin fled to London, just a thought.

            https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio

          • Pears Morgaine

            “Think of the lives that would have been saved if Stalin had fled Moscow for London.”

            He might as well have. He spent the first two weeks of the invasion cowering in his Dacha, despite having been forewarned, and such was the level of fear and paranoia none of underlings dared do anything without his approval.

            Interesting to speculate what would have happened if the US and UK had decided not to keep supplying the Soviet Union with weapons, food and raw materials so as not to ‘prolong the conflict’.

            https://arcticconvoymuseum.org/history-learning/what-were-the-arctic-convoys/

          • Goose

            You assume Russia had no affinity for Ukraine. The fact Kyiv’s historic buildings like St. Cyril’s Church remain untouched shows they didn’t pursue this war along the ‘shock & awe’ US/UK doctrine applied in Operation Iraqi Freedom , Reports from the early days of that 2003 invasion/occupation :

            U.S. and British forces used almost 13,000 cluster munitions, containing nearly 2 million submunitions, that killed or wounded more than 1,000 civilians.

            Meanwhile, 50 strikes on top Iraqi leaders failed to kill any of the intended targets, but instead killed dozens of civilians.

            I don’t know what kind of righteous angels you think our own leaders are. But I’d wager Putin is relatively soft by comparison.

          • Goose

            Presumably you read the leaked US Yemen attack plans in that Signal chat between Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Vice President JD Vance and Hegseth?

            Didn’t you find the ease with which these politicians talk about conducting summary executions, including killing many innocents – “their top missile guy” had just entered his girlfriend’s apartment – outrageous? A few blown up kids then off to lunch?

            This is a country(US) gripped and obsessed with the idea someone may have slept with a 17-year old via Epstein. Why is moral outrage so selective?

            Apparently, it wasn’t even the correct guy either. Soz for killing y’all!

          • Bayard

            “Not only did Trump claim that a top military would have won the war in a week but also Putin expected to win in a week.”

            Not quite. The Russians had reasonable expectations that the Ukrainian government would sue for peace in fairly short order, which they did and the war would then have been over if the UK and US hadn’t assured Zelensky that he could win with their backing and, presumably, made him an offer he couldn’t refuse. Had there been peace then, all those soldiers on both sides who have since died would not have died, so their blood is squarely on Zelensky’s hands and those that coerced him.

          • Bayard

            “No it would not. They’d have appointed a Kremlin puppet to run the country under Russian direction. there would not have been even a semblance of democratic process.”

            Instead of an Washington puppet to run the country under US direction. In any case, why would that have been a bad thing. Given the choice of US puppet and most of your country and a large proportion of your male population destroyed or Russian puppet, friendly relations and trade with Russia and no destruction, which would you go for if you were Ukranian?

            “We know this because it’s precisely what they’ve done in Crimea and the occupied Donbas area.”

            How do you know? Have you been there, or is this culled from the pages of the Telegraph?

            “Interesting to speculate what would have happened if the US and UK had decided not to keep supplying the Soviet Union with weapons, food and raw materials so as not to ‘prolong the conflict’.

            Neither the UK nor the US are currently at war with Russia,so you are comparing apples with oranges. Anyway it’s easy to see what would have happened, the UK would have been successfully invaded, once Russia was out of the war and the US would not have joined in. Alle diese Kommentare wären auf Deutsch. I wonder who would have taken over from Konigsreichsfuhrer Mosley when he died.

        • Goose

          Zelenskyy also claimed Russia is meddling in Moldova’s election, likening it to Iran meddling in Lebanon’s politics.

          He’s ticking all the Trump admin-pleasing boxes, isn’t he. Based on this story :

          “The president of Moldova Maia Sandu has warned that her country’s independence and European future are in danger after police arrested dozens of people accused of involvement in a plot to stoke violent disorder, allegedly backed by Russia.” – BBC

          Theatrics? I hope that the pro-EU parties get thrashed in these countries too. The EU has become an overreaching monstrosity. And the way von der Leyen inserts herself into all military matters and NATO, is obnoxious, given no one voted for her.

          Notice “accused” and “allegedly” are doing all the heavy lifting in this Modova story. The western media, who are unquestioningly lapping this stuff up, will simply drop this story altogether, if all are released with the charges dropped after Sunday’s election.

          • Urban Fox

            The buzz-words indicate Moldova has Eurocuck proxy government of utter grant-eater scumfu*ks. Who’ll drive the place even further into the ground.

            It’s a pattern *every single time*. No exceptions.

            All in the name of our democratic rules-based values of who we are. Of course.

    • Stevie Boy

      Netanyahu will never stop, he needs to be stopped, and the only people who can do that is his funders, the USA. Netanyahu and Israel could never do what they are doing without USA money. Netanyahu might be crazy but Trump and his cronies are the truly evil ones.

      • Republicofscotland

        Not to worry Stevie Boy, Iran will be at war with Israel very soon, and even though the USA will also attack Iran, Iran will for the most part flatten Israel, and put a huge dent in the continuing genocide.

        The Mossad agent Grossi, setting the tone for an attack on Iran.

        “Iran can increase the enrichment level of its uranium stock to [weapons-grade] 90% is a matter of weeks, not months or years,” – Rafael Grossi, IAEA Director General.”

          • Republicofscotland

            Stevie Boy.

            Indeed.

            I can’t spot the difference can you?

            https://nitter.poast.org/pic/orig/media%2FG1flHWBWQAASyKu.jpg

            Meanwhile in a galaxy far far away.

            Imagine if China and the Philippines became allies.

            How many times have we seen this type of corruption – isn’t timely then that the (ICC) has arrested – extradited and charged Duterte senior with crimes against humanity, it says more about the (ICC) than it does about Duterte.

            “The Philippines is burning:
            20+ cities in turmoil. Manila turns into a battlefield, all triggered by a trillion-peso corruption scandal.

            Over 20 cities erupt in protests. In Manila, 50,000 clash with riot police outside the presidential palace. Fires, Molotovs, over 70 police injured.

            The spark? A ₱1.2 trillion flood-control scandal. 30% of funds vanished, contractors faked progress and when Typhoon Haiyan hit, the billion-dollar “defences” collapsed like paper.

            Marcos Jr. promised a “Golden Age of Infrastructure” but delivered corruption, neglect of jobs and housing and loyalty to Washington’s Indo-Pacific strategy over his own people. Now, as protests rage, Marcos has literally disappeared, echoing the fate of his father who fled into U.S. exile on a U.S. helicopter.

            And waiting in the wings? The Duterte family, who favour independent foreign policy and pragmatic cooperation with China. Exactly what Washington fears most: its South China Sea “chessboard” collapsing overnight.

            “This is bigger than the Philippines.
            The riots are a mirror exposing the structural weakness of America’s alliance system. Washington gambles everything on compliant families and strongmen, but when they fall, U.S. strategy crumbles with them.

            The warning is clear: U.S. allies who play Washington’s game while ignoring their people will face the same fate, external flattery, internal collapse and fire on their streets.”

            https://nitter.poast.org/commiepommie/status/1970831412753539367#m

        • Goose

          This is darkly funny…

          The E3 are seeking full IAEA access to Iran’s nuclear sites, as well as access to the 400kg highly enriched uranium that Iran says is buried in the rubble of its damaged nuclear sites.

          So… they’ve been illegally bombed, and now the inability to access this stuff deep underground, is being used against them. And their main adversary, who launched those unprovoked, illegal attacks, has not only faced no consequences for that, but is also under no pressure to sign the NPT and permit IAEA inspections of its own nuclear facilities and stockpiles.

          How can anyone among our leadership pretend this is remotely fair?

      • Alyson

        The funders:

        ‘Israel Names U.S. Jewish billionaires as Key Funders of Gaza Genocide
        As Israel’s genocide in Gaza intensifies, a handful of America’s richest Jewish tycoons have stepped forward as some of its most powerful backers of Israel’s economic and political machinery behind the war. Michael Bloomberg has channelled more than US$27.8 million into Israeli causes in just the past few years, including a massive initiative to rebuild 65 municipalities damaged by the conflict.
        Oracle co-founder and owner of TikTok, Larry Ellison, has long poured funds into groups like Friends of the Israel Defence Forces and efforts to fortify border-town communities, while hedge-fund billionaire Bill Ackman has used his clout among U.S. elites to organise high-profile briefings and screenings that push back on pro-Palestinian voices. Jan Koum, the WhatsApp founder, Michael Dell of Dell Technologies, and Salesforce chairman and TIME magazine owner, Marc Benioff, round out a roster of U.S. billionaires whose money and influence are helping to underwrite Israel’s brutal siege on Gaza.
        These billionaires’ “philanthropy” is presented as humanitarian generosity, yet in practice it reinforces Israel’s ability to maintain a blockade, finance its military campaigns, and dominate the global narrative, drowning out growing calls for Palestinian rights and justice. By funding emergency services for Israeli civilians and financing the political campaigns that defend Israel’s actions, these men are not neutral benefactors but key levers in a system that prolongs occupation and repeated bombardment, leaving Gaza’s families to pay the highest price’.

  • Harry Law

    The hypocrisy of western governments in relation to the middle east is truly amazing, the rise of HTS is instructive here, the west armed and trained the opposition to Assad from 2011 onwards, so much so that an intercepted communication from Jake Sullivan to Hillary Clinton told her that Al Qaeda was on the United States side in Syria. All this was documented in the operation called ‘Timber Sycamore’ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore presumably all in the service of Israel. When will the Arab satraps realize the west, particularly the US are not their friends, but vicious enemies?

    • Goose

      But why would they when they had shared ambitions with Israel? It’s been mentioned here many times.

      Saudi, Qatar and others all wanted to see Assad’s downfall. The Iraq war shifted the Shia – Sunni regional balance in Iran’s favour. The Sunni majority in Alawite minority ruled Syria, was ripe for exploitation. Qatar provided much of the funding – likely working closely with the British on that. To this day, Qatar feels smug about playing both sides, with secrets so dark about Syria, they could plunge the US and UK into crisis, if they revealed them.

      • Stevie Boy

        Yes, ever wondered why those crazy Muslim headchoppers ISIS have never attacked Israel ?
        Hmm, never bite the hand that feeds you …

  • JohnnyOh45

    The gutless fools conspire in their own servitude,
    The mind forged manacles, boxed and blinkered,
    Harnessed in the stalls, the bit that bares their teeth,
    And strangles speech, insensible.
    The Rider’s whip, which spooks,
    The coloured silks and pantaloons.

    The Fluffers seek to manage their distress,
    The Milliners and Fashionistas dress,
    The pageantry of raceday’s underway
    At Stockholm Races.
    The Czar seems far away.
    The Emperor of Chin may have his say.

    The Owner’s have their assets all off-shore,
    They preen in the enclosure, seem secure,
    The Presidential prize, and riches tantalise.
    The gleam of avarice is in their eyes,
    Investors and their middle men disguise, their choices,
    Like gamin, feline models paint their faces.

    The drunken gamblers ignore; exception rules,
    The recent bloody downpours mean the goings poor,
    No matter, the form, the return of winning ways is sure
    (before credit lines are closed once more).
    Poor punters stake their wages, out of pride
    A final loss is for Dame Fortune to decide.

    Each hold their hopes most dearly at their side,
    Our jockeys jostle as the Future rides,
    The crowd, fleetingly distracted with surprise,
    A portent slowly moves across the sky, a wedge of cranes,
    Homeless on their way from furnace pyres ?
    All hold their breath before the pistol fires.

    The old nags stumble out the gates,
    The lofty roars then swiftly dissipate,
    Each frowning face betrays the abject scorn
    Of one deceived, of slender hopes suborned.
    Defying all decorum with their hate, the maddened crowd,
    Turn mob, to remonstrate. The fix is in.

    Flushed, ashamed, its foreigners they say. The tinder’s lit,
    The smoke is in the sky; half-mad, belligerent and angry,
    Wreckage flies. The other half is tears, in mournful stupors cry.
    Cold winters, high prices, beckon forth
    Each reckons their inflated pride for what it’s worth.

    What courage can there be to describe the devastating scene ?
    The mud and carnage, bunting, flags are trodden in,
    The ticker tape the wind is blowing. Bloody, the patronless,
    Confused left wandering; spewing and retching. The sky is rent,
    Partitioned, darkening. Stewards and cleaners survey this carnival’s
    Foul ordure. Smashed bottles, empties, plates, their social betters made.

    The clear-up mission lasts for decades.

  • Republicofscotland

    “This is the man pulling Starmer’s strings.

    But did you know that in his youth, Morgan McSweeney lived on an Israeli settlement?

    I’ve been doing some digging, and I can’t believe what I’ve discovered”

    That man is Morgan McSweeney.

    ” In the late 90s, McSweeney became “closely acquainted” with Hashomer Hatza’ir, a Zionist settler movement founded in Austria-Hungary in 1913″

    A surprising thread on McSweeney.

    https://nitter.poast.org/jodymcintyre_/status/1970758098555134333#m

    And.

    As much as I often read Noam Chomsky article on certain subjects – and I agree with his position on some of them, Chomsky has his own traits as well.

    “By then I was old enough to separate from my parents. I’d been on my own intellectually since I was a teenager. I gravitated toward Zionist groups that were not in their milieu, like Hashomer Hatzair.”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2010/11/chomsky-on-the-death-of-the-kibbutz-also-hezbollah/66621/

    • M.J.

      I wondered why they didn’t walk out when Trump started talking BS. My guess: their masters (in their own governments) ordered them not to make waves, for fear of more punishment tariffs.
      But I noticed that some including Africans didn’t walk out on Netanyahu. Maybe they were beholden in some way.

    • Jack

      This video is not from the ongoing UNGA meeting though. Netanyahu will talk later today if I am not mistaken. Prepare for the usual warmongering/whining about the “threat from Iran”….

  • Crispa

    “Think of the lives that would have been saved if Stalin had fled Moscow for London.” One German pogrom after another with the help of welcoming country’s collaborators as happened in Ukraine. “On 1 July 1941, while Hryn’okh and other soldiers from the “Stepan Bandera battalion” were singing German and Ukrainian military and revolutionary songs on the radio, a pogrom took place in the city. Germans and the Ukrainian militia, established and controlled by the OUN-B, were killing Jews en masse and inciting the local population to do the same”.[Rossolinski-Liebe, Grzegorz. Stephan Bandera: The Life and Afterlife of a Ukrainian Fascist: (p. 306).

    • Pears Morgaine

      The activities of the ‘Einsatzgruppen’ in occupied areas are well documented, it was Himmler’s intention to reduce the population of the Soviet Union by 30 million. Russians at first saw the Nazis as liberators and a large number collaborated.

      https://www.rbth.com/history/331136-collaborationism-ussr-general-vlasov

      Vichy France enacted anti-Semitic legislation and expelled 75,000 Jews and other ‘undesirables’ to certain death in SS camps.

      • Bayard

        “Russians at first saw the Nazis as liberators and a large number collaborated.”

        In many cases because it was an alternative to death. Also, as the article points out “Moreover, the war began catastrophically when, during the summer and autumn of 1941, the Nazis occupied vast territories and advanced toward Moscow. Many questioned whether it was even viable to fight back.” The vast majority of people are not particularly fussed about who rules them, just how they are ruled. Don’t kid yourself that it wouldn’t have been exactly the same in Britain, had it been overrun.

        • Pears Morgaine

          ” The vast majority of people are not particularly fussed about who rules them ”

          Just plain wrong. People want control of their own destiny, how else to explain the drive for independence in numerous places around the world; including Scotland.

          • Bayard

            “how else to explain the drive for independence in numerous places around the world; including Scotland.”

            Easy, the chance to get a better set of rulers. Most, if not all independence movements are driven by the desire of peoples not to be treated as second-class citizens in the country of their ancestors and that includes Scotland. It also includes Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk.

      • Urban Fox

        Actual Nazi revisionist propaganda straight from David Irving and Co.

        Anything to say on the German defectors or those who fought with the Red Army?

        How about the existence of the DDR an actual existing polity from top-to-bottom that was quickly created and shaped by collaboration with the Soviets?

        Nah, that doesn’t fit the narrative.

  • Jack

    Furthermore Starmer attacks the very definition of a state by insisting that the Palestinians can be told who they must have to rule them. The notion that the traitor Abbas and his Palestinian Authority would ever be chosen by the Palestinian people is utter nonsense

    Staggering indeed, considering that 1) Hamas’s support have risen during the Genocide – you have atleast 65000 palestinians killed – that mean you have atleast 65000 wanting to take revenge against israel: it will not be possible to stop the pro-armed resistance sentiment, and 2) the imbecillic traitor Mahmoud Abbas and his gang have of course no support inside Gaza after his total silence during the whole of the Genocide. How could the west (and the rest of the world that backed this UN resolution) be so deluded about the obvious facts on the ground?!

    And why is it that Hamas will not be allowed to have any political power from now on while there are no equal demands that Netanyahu/Likud will not be allowed to rule israel post the Genocide?

    In other news one read about the pathetic move by Spain, Italy to send some non-armed humanitarian ship to the Sumud Flotilla, eagerly and kindly empathizing that they have no wish to “confront” israel making the effort totally feeble from the getgo.
    In the end, israel will of course board and block the flotilla and make Spain and Italy look real stupid since they will do nothing about it.

    • zoot

      The idea of a Palestinian state is itself a nonsense, as western politicians and journalists have known for a long time.

      Even before Gaza was destroyed, with western arms and political cover, there were 800,000 Israeli settlers dug in throughout the West Bank. East Jerusalem was being systematically cleansed of Palestinians. Over a year ago now the Knesset voted near unanimously for a resolution stating there will never be a Palestinian state. Not just the Netanyahu and extreme right factions. All stripes of Israeli opinion.

      Western liberals have known all along that a two-state solution is an impossibility. That is precisely why they have supported it and nothing else.

  • Republicofscotland

    Will the naval ships get there in time, or will the Zionists attack it before then.

    “ROME, Sept 25 (Reuters) – Italy and Spain have deployed military ships to assist the international aid flotilla that has come under drone attack while trying to deliver aid to Gaza, potentially ratcheting up tensions with Israel, which strongly opposes the initiative.
    The Global Sumud Flotilla is using about 50 civilian boats to try and break Israel’s naval blockade of Gaza. Many lawyers, parliamentarians and activists, including Swedish climate campaigner Greta Thunberg, are on board.”

  • Crispa

    “British Special Envoy to Syria Ann Snow affirmed UK clear position regarding Syria, as Israel must respect its sovereignty and territorial integrity, alongside interest in a stable, free, and prosperous Syria, which serves its people and the region. ‘Any disputes or disagreements in the region must be resolved through diplomatic dialogue.” Snow stated to SANA Friday “The United Kingdom and Syria have a common interest in a stable, free, and prosperous Syria’.
    Syria is now overflowing with milk and honey with sanctions being lifted and billions of investment being poured into the country thanks to the triumphant success of the USA etc Jihadi backed revolution. All capped by the newly instituted bespoke suited President whose image is now everywhere like the good old fashioned dictator that he actually is. Security guards mustered huge crowds to watch his UNGA speech.
    All brought to Syrians and the rest of the world by SANA which following an impressive upgrade costing millions is now a huge glossy propaganda outfit instead of the rather sad grainy outlet that it was under Assad.
    But reading between the glossy pictures and the lines one suspects there is a totally different Syria.
    https://sana.sy/en/ And UK is clearly quite happy with it. Hypocrisy at work?

  • M.J.

    There’s a Youtube interview with David Miller about the You Party affair:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5MCWYpigAY
    In it Miller appears to say (9:00 minutes into the video) that he believes that Corbyn is a Zionist who believes in the “two state solution”, and that is why he would not respond to the question whether he was anti-Zionist (whereas Zara Sultana was straight about it, and that was received very well).
    Q: Should Zara Sultana break away from Corbyn and form her own party?

    • Goose

      Imho, all they should do is sort out the party’s core socialist principles that they can all agree on; whether the party is avowedly anti-Zionist via its constitution, should be left to the membership, once the membership is large enough to properly express an opinion on the finalised constitution. Professor David Miller has quite a unique perspective on this; because he’s clearly been persecuted by the Israeli lobby over his views on these matters. It’s therefore the most important and defining issue to him, quite understandably.

      The problem with anti-Zionism and the reason why Corbyn was hesitant to endorse Zarah’s view, is the fact not everyone agrees on what being anti-Zionist actually means : some think Zionism is akin to a belief in Jewish Supremacy and thus being opposed to it seems sensible, at least if you believe in equality; others believe it means holding a belief that Jews have a God-given right to that land.

      • Stevie Boy

        Zionism:
        = Jewish Supremacy. FALSE
        = Jews have God-given right to Palestine. FALSE
        Zionism = Fascism by another name.

        With the latest statement by Corbyn, it’s quite apparent, IMO, that Corbyn has no idea of the distrust and confusion that HE has caused for Your Party.

        • Goose

          Stevie Boy

          That definition is fine for throwaway comments on a forum like this. But for a serious party, one that wishes to be in govt, shouting “fascist!” won’t impress anyone. If the party is to have an anti-Zionist position, it’d need to define exactly what it means by that; otherwise, interviewers, like Andrew Neil, will rip it apart.
          Because, ‘Zionist’ means different things to different people. Corbyn was reluctant to play ball with that journo for good reason. Many Labour, Tory and Lib Dem MPs, clearly think it simply means you hold the view Israelis have a right to a state called Israel, hence why all the Labour leadership contestants, even Rebecca Long-Bailey, stated in the affirmative when asked if they were Zionists?

          • zoot

            They would all have lauded Rhodesia if they were being paid by that country back in the day.

            Anyone with a backbone would tell Neil and other zionists the truth about their ideology: that it is racist to the core and inherently genocidal. They would also point out the extent to which Israel has bought British politics.

            Corbyn has already stood up to the zionist Parliament and media by calling for an inquiry into Britain’s role in the Genocide. He now needs to go further. End his ‘two-state solution’ gaslighting and inform the public of the inescapable logic of zionism.

          • Stevie Boy

            “Israelis have a right to a state called Israel”, no they don’t. Israel was invented as a homeland for Jews in 1948. As such, Israelis are also a fake invention. The majority of Israelis are Russian, Ukrainian and American. They have and already had homelands. Only a minority of Jews lived in Palestine prior to 1948.
            However, the question should be: ‘Jews have a right to a state called Israel ? ‘, to which the answer should be, why ?

          • Bayard

            ” it simply means you hold the view Israelis have a right to a state called Israel, ”

            That’s a pretty bonkers view to hold. If there was no state called Israel, there would be no Israelis, just as there would be no Pakistanis if there wasn’t a state called Pakistan or no Mexicans if there wasn’t a state called Mexico. It’s not a right, it’s a necessity, by definition. Whether Jews have a right to a state called Israel is another matter. Do peoples have a right to a state of their own? Kurds? Baluchis? Basques? Frisians? Navaho?

      • M.J.

        Goose: Zionism, as I see it, is primarily a belief in the establishment and continuance of a Jewish homeland in Palestine, which privileges members of the Jewish community worldwide. In particular, in practice, it does not allow Palestinian exiles the right of return to their homeland prior to 1948. It may or may nor be accompanied by related religious convictions.
        By this definition, are you anti-Zionist?

        • Goose

          Since so many non-Jews say they are Zionists, especially in the US, where claims to American exceptionalism are the norm for politicians. I tend to think it’s become a belief in Jewish Supremacy.
          Many US politicians and that awful religious fruitcake US ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, talk about the ‘chosen people’ and assert biblical rights to Palestinian lands: Judea and Samaria(West Bank), which Israel’s leaders lap up and have adopted themselves. So I’m anti-Zionist if it means opposing such views, absolutely.

          • M.J.

            But do you oppose Zionism as a political project, namely the creation and maintenance of the present apartheid state of Israel, and the prevention of Palestinian exiles from 1948 (eg from Haifa, Galilee and the Negev) to return, have full democratic rights as citizens and be recompensed?

          • Goose

            I do think Palestinians have a right to return – many being recent inhabitants, displaced to Jordan and other countries. They certainly have a much better claim than that as outlined in Israel’s Law of Return

            The Law of Return is an Israeli law, passed on 5 July 1950, which gives Jews, people with one or more Jewish grandparent, and their spouses the right to relocate to Israel and acquire Israeli citizenship.

            Absolutely ridiculous that Western politicians keep talking about difficult “‘realities on the ground” in the West Bank with regards to settlement expansion, when each year Israel imports people to make a Palestinian homeland less and less viable.

  • Stevie Boy

    Here’s some more hypocrisy from the RAF Museum.
    “The Royal Air Force museum in London hosted an event last week supporting the education of Israeli soldiers who have fought in Gaza”
    “Israeli pilot, Colonel Yoav Shany, … is the military attaché at the Israeli Embassy in London, told the audience that intelligence and military collaboration between the two countries was “better kept at a lower profile”.
    “We have a lot of collaboration regarding intelligence; regarding strategical [sic] issues in the wider Middle East areas,”
    Technion says that … Funds pay for “psychological and emotional support services” for soldiers who have recently returned from Gaza ” The poor darlings, all that killing is so stressful for them, give them a big pink RAF cuddle.
    https://www.declassifieduk.org/raf-museum-hosts-fundraiser-for-israeli-soldiers-emotional-support

  • Republicofscotland

    Lets see what happens – fake or real? either way it won’t stop the genocide.

    “Israel is considering closing the British and French consulates in Jerusalem in retaliation for their recognition of a Palestinian state,” – Israeli Channel 12.”

  • Pears Morgaine

    Reported that Starmer plans to announce plans for digital ID cards for all UK adults tomorrow. Despite what happened to Blair’s plan.

    Could be the last straw for him.

      • Goose

        There is a good article by Aditya Chakrabortty in the Guardian today, about the data centers and AI plans not being quite what they seem. I know… the Guardian, but Adtya is consistent in his views.

        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/25/special-relationship-snake-trump-keir-starmer

        As for a single ID.

        If this replaces passport and driver’s license, there could be positives. My passport needs renewing anyway.

        There could be negatives though, for example: Paul Mason seems to have influence in govt thinking, and he’s obsessed with his McCarthyite idea that the online space is swarming with Russian mis/disinformation merchants. It’s bollocks of course, that doesn’t stand up to a moment of even basic scrutiny, but he unshakably holds that view. He has advocated for everyone to login to social media sites using govt issued digital ID i.e. to force deanonymisation. How long until govt makes that compulsory?

          • Goose

            Tbh, sometimes I just go with the autocorrect because ‘licence’ on this blog site gets highlighted as a misspelling, with the red squiggly line underneath, whereas ‘license’ does not.

        • Urban Fox

          It’s kind of funny just *how* late-Soviet the YooKay is in all aspects, and in the worst possible sense. With a few flavours neo-shit-lib thrown in.

          Then you think Starmer went to Communist Czechoslovakia to join a student work camp, in 1986 aged 23. Then became a Pabloite.

          What these shitwits think is a good idea. Is actually demented and entails a whimsical disregard for reality or probability.

      • Goose

        RoS

        Trouble is, it’s compulsory, despite not being in any manifesto. Those objecting will be called cranks. It’s scary how prescient Ted Kaczynski’s a.k.a the Unabomber’s manifesto, written in the 1990s, seems today. He believed everyone would be reduced to numbers. I’m in no way condoning his acts, which were senseless and despicable. From Wikipedia:

        In Industrial Society and Its Future Ted Kaczynski describes modern technological society as totalitarian force—an order in which individuals are “adjusted” to fit the requirements of the system and those outside the system are seen as pathological or “bad”. This tendency, he says, gives rise to expansive police powers, mind-numbing mass media…,

        • Urban Fox

          The saving grace is the current political system is so inept, decrepit and corrupt domestically .That this won’t actually function as intended.

          Of course a few billions will get spunked away or stolen. However that’s baked into any Westminster endeavour these days.

          • Stevie Boy

            Approaching 1,000,000
            That’s half a million signed in the last 15 hours – I guess this isn’t popular 🙂

          • Bayard

            “Of course a few billions will get spunked away or stolen. However that’s baked into any Westminster endeavour these days.”

            Yup, a favoured few in the IT industry will be in receipt of considerable largesse. The poject will take twice as long and cost three times as much to implement as was originally budgeted for and the whole thing will be rolled out in time for the next election when a few well-publicised data leaks will kill it. However, there is no idea so bad that it won’t be dusted off and implemented in the spirit of “this time it will be different”. Look at the poll tax, first tried in 1379 and which was one of the causes of the “Peasants’ Revolt”‘

        • Laguerre

          They would do better to make the ID cards voluntary, like the French do, then there would be less pressure.
          In fact, of course, pretty well all French do have one, for cases of proving identity, but they’re not forced.

        • M.J.

          We should remember that Ted Kaczynski was a convicted terrorist. Even though he grew up a mathematical prodigy, he became a distorted character, making his story a real tragedy.

          • Bayard

            “We should remember that Ted Kaczynski was a convicted terrorist. ”

            He could be a cross between Hitler and Pol Pot but that still wouldn’t mean everything he said was wrong. It’s the message that’s important,not the medium.

        • Goose

          JK redux

          Good point.

          Many Scots/Welsh Nationalists won’t like it either. The idea of a govt app on everyone’s phones will need legislation expressly forbidding surveillance abuse by authorities. If the upper echelons of US national security can be comprised by hackers(SolarWinds), what chance Blighty’s app?

          Many businesses won’t like the security implications of having to worry about a forced new app on devices, with all the zero-day risks and new exploits introduced by updates. GCHQ, MI6/MI5; politicians, MoD staffers and other military personnel; civil servants will all presumably have this app too, I presume?

          I’m sure China/ Russia/Iran/N.Korea won’t see it as a priority No.1 target /S.

          • Goose

            They cite other countries, like Estonia.

            But how do they know whether their digital app is compromised or not? An adversary wouldn’t necessarily announce the fact.

            The Tony Blair Institute has pushed for this, and they previously mooted – during the Covid pandemic – denying unvaccinated refuseniks services, and taking away drivers’ licence; passports etc.

            I thought it would be a physical card, which imho, is more tolerable.

          • Goose

            I ‘d wager of those : GCHQ, MI6/MI5; politicians, MoD staffers and other military personnel; civil servants

            Some or all will exempt themselves, citing ‘National Security’ concerns. So insecurity for the rest of us plebs?

  • Alyson

    Europe ‘Recognising’ Palestine is, according to Trump, ‘performative’. Netanyahu has altered his plane’s flight path so as not to over-fly Europe. Spain and Italy are escorting the ‘Freedom Flotilla’ and Israel declares it will prevent a breach to its blockade which it declares is compliant with international law. Israel says it won’t officially annexe the West Bank.

    Denmark cancelled flights due to drone sightings in several locations. UFO sighting are extensive across the UK. Russian troops have bleeding eyes from a mouse virus which may have been delivered by drone. Ukraine is proud of its bioweapons labs and its drone capability. Iceland is expected to accept NATO defences stationed there.

    So what is actually being agreed, and between which political, public, and private individuals? Brinkmanship? Tony Blair is a key player. Obama is raising his public profile. It would seem that all our public figures and political players are compromised. So who is left? And who is really deciding what they publicly declare are their decisions?

    And how does all this shapeshifting actually work???

    • Goose

      Trump is now categorically ruling out the West Bank being annexed by Israel. And the bizarre plan to put Blair in charge of Gaza no longer involves mass deportation of its population, even on a temporary basis. Which begs the question as to why Israel are continuing to level every building in Gaza?

      It’s hard to keep up with Trump’s changing positions. Maybe it dawned on the US administration, that ethnically cleansing 4 to 5 million people was in no way legal or feasible; this, even if they cooperated, which they wouldn’t. No country would have taken them in for starters, lest its leaders be classed as complicit in genocide. And it’d be a very angry population too, rightfully incensed over being displaced from their homeland.

  • Robert Hughes

    Looks like the U.S Neocon appetite for violence has again reached the point where it must be ( temporarily ) sated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLZRSUuqQ2U.
    Frustrated at not being able to participate ( so far ) in the bloodbath of the Ukraine Proxy War they themselves instigated; restricted to spectator status, unable to exult up-close-and-personal in the mangled bodies of the Permanent Protean Enemy ( that adopts whatever form suits the MIC/Deep State at any given juncture ) and proclaim to it’s befuddled masses, yearning to break ( mainly ” Leftist ” but, what the hell, any non-Yank/Jew will suffice as target practice ) bones that yet one more magnificent victory for the Immortal Defenders of Freedom has been achieved and one more evil empire vanquished.

    Murdering a boat-load of Venezuelan fishermen was just a little bit of titillating foreplay, a cheap, crude homicidal pole-dance precusor to something much more psycho-sexually satisfying, eg full-frontal ravishing & sadistic humiliation of that Commie, drug-pushing ” shithole country “, ie Venezuela- whose vast reserves of black gold is wasted on it and should rightfully be under the control of God’s Own Country, well, to be theologically accurate, God’s 2nd Placed Own Country: the 1st being Zion, of course.

    Or maybe their plans are more ambitious and they’ve determined it’s Rapture Time, baby, let’s get it ON, MFs.

    I mean why should those IDF guys – who we fund to the max – have all the fun? Plus those Chinks are beating us at our own game n the damn Ruskies are knocking it out the park militarily: it just ain’t right, man. Whose Planet is it anyway; ours, right?

    ” Boom goes London, boom Paree
    More room for you and more room for me
    And every city the whole world ’round
    Will just be another American town ”
    ( Randy Newman. Political Science )

    The omnicrisis that has engulfed and threatens to terminally undermine the U.S + Eurovassalland, eg almost-too-large-to-calculate debt, stagnant growth/wages, Immigration ” issues “, utterly corrupt, completely out-of-touch with their populaces political leaderships & Political Class generally and – prehaps the single gravest concern from the * West’s * POV – the rise and continuing progress of BRICS – is creating/has created what might be considered a ” perfect storm ” of intractable, insoluble problems for the NeoLib/Con Hegemony. The only solution to which in the demented fever dreams of the latter’s rulers is the instigation of Total War.

    Why not? I mean the United States of Zion has God on it’s side, right, and if it can’t have total dominion over the Earth what point there being an Earth at all?

    Randy Newman, again …….

    ” No one likes us, I don’t know why
    We may not be perfect, but heaven knows we try
    And all around, even our old friends put us down
    Let’s drop the big one and see what happens “

  • nevermind

    Now is the time to email your Labour MP with the ICJ judgement, asking them to draw up a plan to disarm and restitute all those settlers from Russia, Ukraine and Poland and America.
    They have homes and families to go to, Palestinians must also be allowed to get their land and assets back, get compensation for the destruction of olive trees.
    Mahmoud Abbas should be made to retire and an election planned to represent Gaza and the westbanks newly to be formed Government and institutions.
    All building in occupied East Jerusalem must end immediately, it is up to a new Palestinian Government to establish their capital.
    And if it is the last swan song of the UN, an; nternational fprce must see to it that the changes are carried out without violence.

    Recognising the state of Palestine is the bare minimum, the work starts now to form resettlement plans and staged return of settlers, they should get their return home paid for, signing an agreement not to return.
    There is so much more to sort, water rights and energy distribution, gas extraction and a halt to interference in Lebanons and wahabi led Syria.
    Palestine action demonstrations should be redeemed and feclared legitamit, as long as the UK supplies arms and technical assistance to the bloody regime occupying Palestine

    • nevermind

      Just think how Trump could help Ukraine by sending all these murderous and angry settlers back home to their respective countries.
      They all know and love to hold a gun, an instant shot in the arm for the puppet in charge.
      As for Russia receiving their Ashkenazis back, what could they possibly do wrong? (Sarc.alert)

    • JK redux

      nevermind
      September 26, 2025 at 09:03

      A tad unrealistic.

      The settlers from Russia, Ukraine and the USA probably don’t have homes to go home to. Some settlers from Russia and Ukraine were expelled from the USSR.

      And, of course, Israel has nukes. …

      • nevermind

        Jk redux
        ‘ a tad unrealistic?
        Why would they have no homes or families to go home to?
        Are you speculating?
        Have they been bombed or bulldozed? As in the westbank and Gaza?
        Compare their situation with that of the Palestinians and come back with a realistic response. Would you like the settlers zettle in the Sinai desert instead? Providing Egypt agrees.

      • Bayard

        “The settlers from Russia, Ukraine and the USA probably don’t have homes to go home to”

        How many still have dual citizenship? Quite a large proportion, I’d bet, although that’snot worth much if you have Israeli-Ukranian citizenship. You might end up fighting a war against real soldiers, not civilians.

  • Harry Law

    Netanyahu talks about retaliating against countries who have recognized the state of Palestine, do your worst Bibi as long as it is not what Professor Martin Crevel had in mind several years ago.
    Speaking during an interview which was published in Jerusalem Friday, Professor Martin Van Crevel said Israel had the capability of hitting most European capitals with nuclear weapons.
    “We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets of our air force.”
    Creveld, a professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, pointed out that “collective deportation” was Israel’s only meaningful strategy towards the Palestinian people. http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/destroycaps.html

    • Bayard

      “as long as it is not what Professor Martin Crevel had in mind several years ago.”

      Surely hitting most European capitals with nuclear weapons is all covered under Israel’s right to defend itself.

      • Stevie Boy

        Maybe Bibi doesn’t understand that the loss of London, followed by the corresponding total obliteration of Israel would be a price many brits would be happy to pay.
        Anyway, realistically, we know that Israelis are a bunch of liars, so I wouldn’t give much credence to their claims.

        • glenn_nl

          SB: That’s the most brilliant comment I’ve seen in some time. Fantastic stuff… the missus loved it too. One can well imagine any right-thinking person reflecting, bit of a shame about London (although it’s probably for the best), but at least we’re rid of that horrible country full of murdering racists for good.

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