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Hello glenn_nl,
if you want to argue some points, please do.
Make some points and I will try and think through your points.I am not an AI bot
I am an actual person.
michaelhttps://gridwatch.co.uk/
At present, 10.05 Easter Monday,
one third of our electricity comes from natural Gas, one third comes from interconnectors.
The other third is wood pellets, Nuclear an bit of hydro and a bit of solar and a bit of wind.In four and a half years 95% must come from green sources.
How will that happen, in four and a half years?Bringing critical minerals to where they are needed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP8qUyRygVk
The economies that will survive, are those with natural resources.
Such as
Fresh Water
Trees
Limestone
Can you feed all or most of your people from your own lands, traditionally, this was of the greatest criticality,
since globalisation, less so but globalisation might be ending, soon.
Do you mine Graphite/Polyhalite/Copper/Tin/Lead/Kaolin/Cobalt/Calamine/Tungsten/Gold/Silver/Nickel/Bauxite/Iron?
Do you process Rare Earths?
Do you produce all of your own, Natural Gas/Oil/Coal?
Do you make all of your own Electricity?If you answer No, to most of these questions, your country will struggle to survive.
Unless you have a resource rich partner.
Those countries which can answer Yes, might survive with a level of comfort.
Canada, U.S.A., Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Peru, Chile, South Africa, Ethiopia, Nigeria, India, China, Russia, Australia.
Resource poor countries, will be up the creek without a paddle.Michael, I just spotted this and I thought I should post it up so you would see it; I’m still very short of time.
– Trump signs controversial order to boost deep-sea mining industry
– The executive order will help private deep-sea mining companies to access mineral-rich nodules on the sea floor.– – – – –
This is madness; ripping the ecosystems out from under ourselves. I think, we need to stop economic growth.
Michael, I have a prediction. We will now see a denial and anti-science campaign to support deep seabed scraping much like the historic tobacco / seatbelts / asbestos campaigns and the ongoing emissions campaign.
e.g:
– “It’s not damaging”…
– “It’s not as damaging as scientists say”…
– “What the scientists practically observing the seabed call damage is actually an improvement, because these five retired contrarians from other fields say so, therefore seabed science is institutionally corrupt”…All the while accompanied by:
– “Yes, but without seabed scraping the economy will collapse” (i.e. cease to grow).Clark,
well it is only quite recently that science has come to discover Dark Oxygen.
I would like to suggest that at least fifty years should go by, before these lumps of minerals are scooped out.
Let us imagine complex, multicellular life was kicked-off in the very deep seas, because Oxygen was available, in the very deep seas.
Would not that be a shame to rob those critters of their Oxygen, just for mobile phones, lap tops, battery cars and such?
The seas hold the greatest diversity of life, there is so much to learn.
Please Donald, do not kill this life.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP3RPDTgfa4&t=11s
Quote
“A discovery in the dark depths of the Pacific Ocean is challenging the scientific consensus of how oxygen is produced and has even called into question how life on Earth began.Photosynthetic organisms like plants and algae use energy from sunlight to create the planet’s oxygen but new evidence has shown how oxygen is also produced in complete darkness at the seafloor 4,000 metres below the ocean surface, where no light can penetrate.”
Professor Andrew K. SweetmanProfessor Andrew K. Sweetman is the leader of the Seafloor Ecology and Biogeochemistry research group and chair of Benthic Ecology and Biogeochemistry at the Scottish Association for Marine Science (SAMS), UK.
https://www.sams.ac.uk/people/researchers/sweetman-professor-andrew-k/Ilmenite
This is the resource from which Titanium is mostly produced.
about one third of the world’s need are produced in China.
Quite a lot in Russia and the former Soviet states.
“Titanium ore was first noticed in Manaccan, Cornwall.
In 1790 William Gregor discovered ilmenite, an iron titanium oxide, which he named menachanite (and is sometimes still called manaccanite), in Gillan Creek that runs through the valley just south of the village. After he analyzed it he found a new element, titanium, that he called menachine. The location is commemorated by a plaque placed next to the bridge. He presented his findings in 1791”Anyway it seems they might have found a lot of the stuff in South East Paraguay.
Parguay has a very small mining sector but they do have Hydro Electricity, nearby.
All of Paraguay’s electricity is generated by hydropower, making it one of the cleanest in the world!
The Itaipu Dam is the third largest hydroelectric dam in the world.
Mining at Alto Paraná is expected to produce an ilmenite concentrate.
This resource could help the economy of Paraguay – take off
https://www.sandstormgold.com/portfolio/alto-parana/
South America seems to have it all.
I am surprized Donald hasn’t threatened to take then over.Spain & Portugal seem to have run out of electricity
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c9wpq8xrvd9t#player
If we in the U.K. continue with Net Zero ( Electricity) by 2030,
how will we produce enough constant electricity, especially with one an a half million extra homes?Earth’s oceans used to be green, and they could turn purple next
I read this today and thought of you Michael. You might find it interesting.
Michael, I think most people contributing to this thread agree with you on the shockingly inept attempts at energy transition.
However shockingly inept they are, or however economically dumb they may be this isn’t an argument negating climate change itself just an argument for how inadequate the response is.
I feel you are using the monumentally inadequate government policies to undermine climate science rather than pointing to what you believe are the inconsistencies in climate science.
Can you tell us where you believe climate science is wrong without mentioning Ed Milliband, government policies or inadequate supplies of minerals or greening.
“Spain’s nuclear power plants also automatically went offline as a safety precaution, with diesel generators maintaining them in a “safe condition”, the Spanish Nuclear Safety Council (CSN) said in a statement.
Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez held an emergency meeting on the situation, his office said in a Telegram message.”
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20250428-major-power-outage-in-spain-and-portugal-disrupts-transport-communication
I while back the BBC were suggesting it was caused by climatic conditions?Today, in the U.K. very little of our electricity is coming from wind turbines, because there is no wind.
But Nuclear Power Stations shutting down,
this is serious shit.
This is Spain and Portugal and a bit of France, this isn’t Indonesia or Pakistan, this is the mighty European Union.So at the moment 18.00 hours, only 6% of Britain’s electricity is coming from wind, yet we have a lot of wind turbines.
A huge amount is coming from North Sea Gas.
The electrical system needs to be on all the time in the modern world, intermittency is not good enough.
What happens if the reactors in France go down?“So at the moment 18.00 hours, only 6% of Britain’s electricity is coming from wind, yet we have a lot of wind turbines.”
So, what?
ET
we in the U.K. are putting some of our eggs into Nuclear and a lot of our eggs into renewable electricity, great when the sun is shining and great when the wind is blowing.
Iberia, also some Nuclear and lots of renewable.
What will happen when it is dark, no solar.
What happens when it is dark and the wind does not blow, like now.
Currently in the U.K. we are using close to 60% Natural Gas
but the plan is to use almost no gas?
What if the Spanish Nuclear Reactors shut down, because the wind stopped blowing in Iberia?
They probably shut down because no electricity was getting into their Nuclear facilities.
State of Emergency called in Spain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_European_power_outageThis may be a crunch moment for the U.K. and the European Union.
Just Stop Oil and Coal and Gas.
Speedily move towards Net Zero.
You get the most expensive electricity.
Big Industries close, they have become uncompetitive, at least in part because of very high electricity costs.
If we stop making Virgin Steel, stop refining Carbon based fluids in Grangemouth, masses of ordinary workers, physical workers, will be on the scrap-heap. These workers will come to understand, they have been sold down the river.
The Elite have decided an all electric future, yet very few, have voted for this future?
Does Democracy still cling on, in Europe.
Maybe not.
We are led by idealogs.
Society is getting less robust.
Only a few weeks ago, a single 70 year old transformer running at more than 100% design specification, sprung a leak of hot fluid and burnt out a substation, this substation causing Heathrow to shut down for a day.
The future should not be all electric, we are in danger of disintergrating as a functional society.
Ruled by idiots, leading us, up the garden path.Apparently, even Tony Blair sees the short end of the stick grasped by the Elite Brigade in Great Britain of Net Zero.
If Tony Blair can see it, perhaps Sir Keir can also see it?
Tony Blair has the shell-like of Sir Keir.So come on, own up, how many of you voted for Net Zero?
Tony Blair ( retired Labour Prime minister, says Net Zero policies “doomed to fail”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpvrwyp0jx3o
Quote BBC“In a new report, the former Labour prime minister says voters feel they’re being asked to make financial sacrifices and changes in lifestyle when they know the impact on global emissions is minimal”.
If even Tony Blair understands this, how come Ed Milliband knows nothing?
