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I feel there is a linguistic current account imbalance in this thread and Tatyana is abusing linguistic exchange rates. Unless and until Tatyana teaches us how to say “some stupid cunt” in russian I will formally seek redress under the WLTO (World Language Trade Organisation) rules.
You almost made me spit my coffee this morning when I read that Tatyana, I could have been in a pub at home. In Ireland the term “you stupid cunt” is a term of endearment, mostly. Unless you really mean it. In which case it isn’t at all.
Awaiting enlightenment so I can curse proficiently in russian too. 😀ET 🙂
I directly translated the rude Russian expression “tupaya pizda”. It’s pronounced /two-pah-ja piz-dah’/. Google translate suggests ‘a dirty little cunt’ as a translation.
You may listen to the pronunciation if you typeтупая пизда
into Google translate and click little megaphone icon in the field
https://translate.google.com/?sl=ru&tl=en&text=%D1%82%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%8F%20%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%B0&op=translateIn our language, sound length doesn’t serve a semantic purpose, but you can prolong a sound for emotional emphasis:
if you want to emphasize stupidity, you might pronounce it “two-paaaaaaaa-ya piz-da”;
if you want to emphasize that your interlocutor — omg, how can I put this more tolerantly — possesses stereotypical characteristics of a low-intellectual female, ugh – then you can prolong the stressed sound in the word “pizda” longer. Like this /piz-daaaaaaah/.I’ve got Nail the Pitch app, it says that the intonation goes down every syllable. In my case it’s E3-D3-C3 notes.
I must say that swearing in a foreign language doesn’t evoke the same emotional rejection as having to utter a rude word in native language. I mean, if I were asked to pronounce it in Russian, I would have to make an effort.
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It’s not that I have a problem swearing, it’s my mood is usually not emotional enough.However, the most peace-loving person in this discussion is Clark.
It never would have occurred to me that I could uncast a spell!
Catch the angel!Mod: Michael, anything you post on this thread must be directly related to the topic of the Republic of Crimea. Your lengthy moan about the British Labour government has no connection to that topic. Starting off with “This may interest you” doesn’t make it relevant.
If you do anything similar again, you’ll be banned from this thread.
Thank you Tatyana. I noticed you had replied only this evening. I shall be using that phrase a lot henceforth and I will be putting emotion into it :D. I shall also be trying to encourage others to use it.
Oh my god, ET! Use this with caution! It’s rude and offensive.
I honestly thought I’d completely ruined my reputation by writing obscenities and that people were now afraid to write anything to me.
I really hope most commenters see this as a scientific dissection!
Friends, I would refrain from explaining the vulgarities, but unfortunately, the cultural and linguistic aspects are powerfully engrossing for me and prevail over the need to maintain decency.
I’ll give a couple of examples where using the aforementioned phrase would be appropriate.
First, that’s the concept of Karen, a meme (a cultural trope, an archetype, if you will).
A stupid woman who finds herself in a situation where she’s 100% wrong, but instead of apologizing and admitting her mistake, she reacts inappropriately.
In Karen’s case, this is verbal aggression. Karen is a typical example of a тупая пизда.The second example is my cousin.
She was driving and didn’t react in time at an intersection. She turned from the far left lane into the right exit, creating a dangerous situation for the car behind her.
The driver of the car made a gesture with his hand, a universal gesture that in our country means “You must turn on the turn signal before the maneuver!”. He imitated blinking with his fingers.
My cousin thought it was someone she knew, making a greeting gesture. She smiled broadly, shouted “Hello!” and waved her hand back at him!
I’ve no doubt that тупая пизда sounded in that back car.This week I had to attend Royal Berkshire Hospital, it came into being before the Crimean War.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QFuX-4Y8J4&list=RD9QFuX-4Y8J4&start_radio=1
So, pre electricity.
I think the war in Crimea, was a major turning point for the world.
It encapsulated much, like the collapse of the ottoman Empire.
The start of modern hospital care.
The understanding that cavalry charges were impotent against the guns.
The notion that a proper trained meritocracy should control the army and not the aristocracy.
This moment was a true turning point.Michael, this sounds like a new conclusion to me. Interesting. Thanks for the food for thought and the impetus to learn more.
Re. the video you shared, oh, what a wonderful example of schizophrenia 🙂 Such dark events, accompanied by such cheerful, lively music!
I felt déjà vu, recalled Hafanana, Afric Simone’s song.
https://youtu.be/DWOSmzUUM8M@ET, hopefully you’ll stop by.
I’d like to ask a linguistic question too.Is there a word equivalent to богомерзкий in your language?
This word literally means “God considers this an abomination,” but in modern Russian it’s used ironically. Someone might say, “There used to be wonderful chewing gums like Love Is and Bombibom, with melon or chocolate flavors, not like today’s богомерзкий watermelon Dirol.”
The Crimea, history runs through its veins.
80,000 years of history.
Perhaps one day people will come to understand that the Caspian basin /black Sea basin
is the starting point for Europe“Is there a word equivalent to богомерзкий in your language?”
You’re unlikely to get a straightforward answer in this godforsaken dump.
“Is there a word equivalent to богомерзкий in your language?”
Tatyana, I’ve thought about this for a few days and, to be honest, the word “abomination” itself is as close as you can get. “Abomination” already has the concept of “divine disgust” inherent in it in a similar way that blasphemy carries a religious context. I’ve looked at various synonym and thesaurus sites for more inspiration but the best I could find are words like “evil,” “wicked” and “divine disgust.”
When I eat a bacon sandwich I am partaking in an act of abomination. Who knew?
https://answeredfaith.com/examples-of-abominations-in-the-bible/
I might think that a prawn curry is an abomination before God 😀 because I just really don’t think prawns go well with curry flavours. (plus see above link)So that I remain somewhat on topic and to keep the mods happy I searched for irish links to Crimea. Keep in mind that in the 1850s Ireland was part of the UK. Apparently:
“In total, Britain sent just over 111,300 soldiers to the Crimea during the course of the war and over 30,000 were Irish. They played a significant role and Irish soldiers were prominent at the major battles such as the Alma and Inkerman. In one of the war’s more infamous events, over 100 Irish cavalry soldiers took part on the ill-fated ‘Charge of the Light Brigade’ in October 1854. It is also possible to identify Irish soldiers and sailors serving in the French, Turkish and the Russian services.”
“Irish women served as nurses and these included Irish Sisters of Mercy who established a field hospital at Balaclava, which was more successful in the treatment of sick and wounded than Florence Nightingale’s hospital at Scutari.”
I tried to find evidence for that statement but couldn’t really find much about the effectiveness of “The Castle Hospital, Balaclava.”Also:
“There are a number of monuments across Ireland associated with the Crimea and some include Russian “trophy guns”. When Sevastopol was finally captured, hundreds of naval cannon were found in storage and these were sent to towns in Britain, Ireland, Canada and Australia. There are 22 of these Crimean trophy guns surviving in locations around Ireland, with pairs of guns in Galway, Waterford, Limerick and Tralee. The Tralee guns are incorporated into memorials naming the local men who died in the Crimean War and the later Indian Mutiny.”Can we have an oreshnik or two please?
And finally:
“While there was no single national memorial, there was a Grand Crimean Banquet in October 1856 in Stack A in the George’s Dock in Dublin (now the CHQ building). This was Ireland’s largest ever sit-down dinner, with 3,000 Crimean veterans and 2,000 members of the public consuming prodigious amounts of food. That this dinner came within a decade of the Great Famine seems to have inspired no adverse comment at the time.”Over 1 million irish died in the famine (1845-1850 ish) and 2 million emigrated. Ireland’s population dropped from over 8 million to under 5 million and has not yet recovered even to this day.
https://www.maynoothuniversity.ie/research/spotlight-research/ireland-and-crimean-war
Ireland’s cultural memory still remembers that abomination as Ukraine will remember as an abomination its surrender to western “great game” wars.
Thank you, ET.
I notice that new posts generate new questions, often off-topic. Right now, I’m really curious: you used the word “prawn.” What’s the difference between “prawn” and “shrimp”?
And I don’t want to tease the moderators either.
I was thinking that we were once allowed to create an “Off-Topic” discussion.
Maybe we should create a separate topic for short questions, short news items, jokes, linguistic and cultural puzzles, and opinions on events not covered in other specialized discussions. Something where one can ask and possibly get answers, on things that don’t require lengthy debates?
