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    Tatyana

      On Pikabu there’s a video report from Washington:
      https://pikabu.ru/story/bessmertnyiy_polk_vernulsya_v_vashington_pamyat_pesni_i_provokatsii_12683493#comments
      “The Immortal Regiment action goes again in the American capital after six-year pause. Despite attempts by pro-Ukrainian activists to disrupt the event (yellow-blue flags and loud slogans), hundreds of people – immigrants from the former USSR and Americans – peacefully marched from the White House to the war memorial.”

      I commented:
      “There is something wrong with the logic of those with blue and yellow flags.
      The Immortal Regiment is an event in memory of the fallen soldiers of the USSR.
      Ukraine was part of the USSR.
      What are they unhappy with today?
      It would be logical and morally correct if they joined the procession with their flags and honored the memory of their own ancestors.”

      my comment got 207 upvotes and 7 downvotes, and most of the responses can be summarized as:
      “the descendants of the opposing side in that war are protesting”

      #103991 Reply
      Tatyana

        There are still people who believe that Ukraine is a democracy, and that their ruling regime is not nazi.
        I’ll share this here, to prove them wrong.
        https://pikabu.ru/story/na_ukraine_zaderzhali_devushku_kotoraya_slushala_pesnyu_den_pobedyi_12704484

        A girl in the street gets detained by the police. The dialogue, shortly:
        – what’s wrong?
        – you’re listening to Russian song
        – so what?
        – it’s forbidden
        – it’s just a song (*the song is the “Victory Day” performed by Joseph Kobzon)
        – you cannot listen Russian songs
        – it’s so wrong! Our ancestors…. hey, I’m doing my prayers in Russian, would you arrest me for praying in Russian?

        Earlier I’ve seen reports about advertising on kids TV channels. Ukrainian security service runs ads encouraging kids to call up SBU if they see their siblings or friends listening to Russian music.

        #104003 Reply
        Shibboleth

          Tatyana,

          I’m sure you, of all people, understand why? Perhaps the Ukrainians have the same loathing and hatred of Russians as you quite clearly have of them.

          How can you have true peace, friendship, love and respect for each other when you are consumed so?

          Kind regards,

          S.

          #104012 Reply
          Tatyana

            With all due respect, Shibboleth, I am far from understanding.
            Iy’s not about hate speeches that emotionally involved individuals allow themselves on the Internet, expressing their attitude.
            I am talking about the state law that the police implement, in the real world arresting people for listening and speaking in their native language!
            There are many Ukrainians living in Russia, but they are not discriminated against.
            In Ukraine, speaking Russian is dangerous, Russian-language media is banned, Russian books are removed from libraries and burned, children are asked to inform on their relatives!
            Maybe this is not Nazism? Let’s come up with another word, for example, National-Totalitarianism. But whatever you call it, I don’t understand how to evaluate what’s happening, except condemnation. Not a single positive word comes to mind.

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