Matthew Gould and the Plot to Attack Iran

by craig on November 14, 2011 12:03 pm in Uncategorized

This is Matthew Gould, second from right, British Ambassador to Israel, who was pictured speaking at a meeting of the Leeds Zionist Federation that was also the opening of the Leeds Hasbarah Centre. The Leeds Zionist Federation is part of the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland, motto “Speaking Up for Israel.” A collection was made at the meeting to send packages to members of the Israeli Defence Force.

On 29 May 2011 The Jerusalem Post reported: “British Ambassador Matthew Gould declared his commitment to Israel and the principles of Zionism on Thursday”.

Remember this background, it is unusual behaviour for a diplomat, and it is important.

The six meetings between British Ambassador to Israel Matthew Gould and Minister of Defence Liam Fox and Adam Werritty together – only two of which were revealed by Cabinet Secretary Gus O’Donnell in his “investigation” into Werritty’s unauthorised role in the Ministry of Defence – raise vital concerns about a secret agenda for war at the core of government, comparable to Blair’s determination to drive through a war on Iraq..

This is a detective story. It begins a few weeks ago, when the Fox-Werritty scandal was first breaking in the media. I had a contact from an old friend from my Foreign Office days. This friend had access to the Gus O’Donnell investigation. He had given a message for me to a trusted third party.

Whistleblowing in the surveillance state is a difficult activity. I left through a neighbour’s garden, not carrying a mobile phone, puffed and panted by bicycle to an unmonitored but busy stretch of road, hitched a lift much of the way, then ordered a minicab on a payphone from a country pub to my final destination, a farm far from CCTV. There the intermediary gave me the message: what really was worrying senior civil servants in the Cabinet Office was that the Fox-Werritty link related to plans involving Mossad and the British Ambassador to Israel, Matthew Gould.

Since I became a notorious whistleblower, several of my ex-friends and contacts have used me to get out information they wanted to leak, via my blog. A good recent example was a senior friend at the UN who tipped me off in advance on the deal by which the US agreed to the Saudi attack on pro-democracy demonstrators in Bahrain, in return for Arab League support for the NATO attack on Libya. But this was rather different, not least in the apparent implication that our Ambassador to Israel, Matthew Gould, was engaged in something with Werritty which went beyond official FCO policy.

I was particularly concerned by this because I knew slightly and liked Matthew Gould, from the time he wrote speeches for Robin Cook. I hoped there was nothing much in it. But then Gould’s name started to come up as professional journalists dug into the story, and reported Werritty’s funding by pro-Israeli lobby groups.

I decided that the best approach was for me to write to Matthew Gould. I did so, asking him when he had first met Werritty, how many times he had met him, and how many communications of every kind there had been between them. I received the reply that these questions would be answered in Gus O’Donnell’s report.

But Gus O’Donnell’s report in fact answered none of these questions. It only mentioned two meetings at which Fox, Gould and Werritty were all three present. It did not mention Gould-Werritty bilateral meetings and contacts at all. To an ex-Ambassador like me, there was also something very fishy about the two trilateral meetings O’Donnell did mention and his characterisation of them.

This led me to dig further, and I was shocked to find that O’Donnell was, at the most charitable interpretation, economical with the truth. In fact there were at least six Fox-Werritty-Gould meetings, not the two given by O’Donnell. Why did GOD lie? I now had no doubt that my informant had pointed me towards something very real and very important indeed.

Matthew Gould was the only British Ambassador who Fox and Werrity met together. They met him six times. Why?

The first meeting to which O’Donnell admits, took place in September 2010. O’Donnell says this was

“a general discussion of international defence and security matters to enable Mr Gould better to understand MOD’s perspective.”

O’Donnell says Werritty should not have been present. An FCO spokesman told me on 21 October that

“Mr Gould’s meeting with the Defence Secretary was arranged by his office as part of his pre-posting briefing calls.”

All Ambassadors make pre-posting briefing calls around Whitehall before taking up their job, as you would expect. But even for our most senior Ambassadors, outside the Foreign Office those calls are not at Secretary of State level. Senior officials are quite capable of explaining policy to outgoing Ambassadors; Secretaries of State have many other things to do.

For this meeting to happen at all was not routine, and Werritty’s presence made it still more strange. Why was this meeting happening? I dug further, and learnt from a senior MOD source that there were two more very strange things about this meeting, neither noted by O’Donnell. There was no private secretary or MOD official present to take note of action points, and the meeting took place not in Fox’s office, but in the MOD dining room.

O’Donnell may have been able to fox the media, but to a former Ambassador this whole meeting stunk. I bombarded the FCO with more questions, and discovered an amazing fact left out by O’Donnell. The FCO spokesman replied to me on 21 October 2011 that:

“Mr Werritty was also present at an earlier meeting Mr Gould had with Dr Fox in the latter’s capacity as shadow Defence Secretary.”

So Gould, Fox and Werritty had got together before Gould was Ambassador, while Fox was still in opposition and while Werritty was – what, exactly? This opened far more questions than it answered. I put them to the FCO. When, where and why had this meeting happened? We only knew it was before May 2010, when Fox took office. What was discussed? There are very strict protocols for senior officials briefing opposition front bench spokesman. Had they been followed?

The FCO refused point blank to answer any further questions. I turned to an independent-minded MP, Jeremy Corbyn, who put down a parliamentary question to William Hague. The reply quite deliberately ignored almost all of Corbyn’s question, but it did throw up an extraordinary bit of information – yet another meeting between Fox, Werritty and Gould, which had not been previously admitted.

Hague replied to Corbyn that:

“Our ambassador to Israel was also invited by the former Defence Secretary to a private social engagement in summer 2010 at which Adam Werritty was present.”

Getting to the truth was like drawing teeth, but the picture was building. O’Donnell had completely mischaracterised the “Briefing meeting” between Fox, Werritty and O’Donnell by hiding the fact that the three had met up at least twice before – once for a meeting when Fox was in opposition, and once for “a social engagement.” The FCO did not answer Corbyn’s question as to who else was present at this “social engagement”.

This was also key because Gould’s other meetings with Fox and Werritty were being characterised – albeit falsely – as simply routine, something Gould had to do in the course of his ambassadorial duties. But this attendance at “a private social engagement” was a voluntary act by Gould, indubitable proof that, at the least, the three were happy in each other’s company, but given that all three were very active in zionist causes, it was a definite indication of something more than that.

That furtive meeting between Fox, Werritty and Gould in the MOD dining room, deliberately held away from Fox’s office where it should have taken place, and away from the MOD officials who should have been there, now looks less like briefing and more like plotting.

My existing doubts about the second and only other meeting to which O’Donnell does admit make plain why that question is very important.

O’Donnell had said that Gould, Fox and Werritty had met on 6 February 2011:

“in Tel Aviv. This was a general discussion of international affairs over a private dinner with senior Israelis. The UK Ambassador was present.”

There was something very wrong here. Any ex-Ambassador knows that any dinner with senior figures from your host country, at which the British Ambassador to that country and a British Secretary of State are both present, and at which international affairs are discussed, can never be “private”. You are always representing the UK government in that circumstance. The only explanation I could think of for O’Donnell’s astonishing description of this as a “private” dinner was that the discussion was far from being official UK policy.

I therefore asked the FCO who was at this dinner, what was discussed, and who was paying for it? I viewed the last as my trump card – if either Gould or Fox was receiving hospitality, they are obliged to declare it. To my astonishment the FCO refused to say who was present or who paid. Corbyn’s parliamentary question also covered the issue of who was at this dinner, to which he received no reply.

Plainly something was very wrong. I therefore again asked how often Gould had met or communicated with Werritty without Fox being present. Again the FCO refused to reply. But one piece of information that had been found by other journalists was that, prior to the Tel Aviv dinner, Fox, Gould and Werritty had together attended the Herzilya conference in Israel. The programme of this is freely available. It is an unabashedly staunch zionist annual conference on “Israel’s security”, which makes no pretence at a balanced approach to Palestinian questions and attracts a strong US neo-conservative following. Fox, Gould and Werritty sat together at this event.

Yet again, the liar O’Donnell does not mention it.

I then learnt of yet another, a sixth meeting between Fox, Gould and Werritty. This time my infomrant was another old friend, a jewish diplomat for another country, based at an Embassy in London. They had met Gould, Fox and Werritty together at the “We believe in Israel” conference in London in May 2011. Here is a photo of Gould and Fox together at that conference.

I had no doubt about the direction this information was leading, but I now needed to go back to my original source. Sometimes the best way to hide something is to put it right under the noses of those looking for it, and on Wednesday I picked up the information in a tent at the Occupy London camp outside St Paul’s cathedral.

This is the story I was given.

Matthew Gould was Deputy Head of Mission at the British Embassy in Iran, a country which Werritty frequently visited, and where Werritty claimed to have British government support for plots against Ahmadinejad. Gould worked at the British Embassy in Washington; the Fox-Werritty Atlantic Bridge fake charity was active in building links between British and American neo-conservatives and particularly ultra-zionists. Gould’s responsibilities at the Embassy included co-ordination on US policy towards Iran. The first meeting of all three, which the FCO refuses to date, probably stems from this period.

According to my source, there is a long history of contact between Gould and Werritty. The FCO refuse to give any information on Gould-Werritty meetings or communications except those meetings where Fox was present – and those have only been admitted gradually, one by one. We may not have them all even yet.

My source says that co-ordinating with Israel and the US on diplomatic preparation for an attack on Iran was the subject of all these meetings. That absolutely fits with the jobs Gould held at the relevant times. The FCO refuses to say what was discussed. My source says that, most crucially, Iran was discussed at the Tel Aviv dinner, and the others present represented Mossad. The FCO again refuses to say who was present or what was discussed.

On Wednesday 2 November it was revealed in the press that under Fox the MOD had prepared secret and detailed contingency plans for British participation in an attack on Iran.

There are very important questions here. Was Gould really discussing neo-con plans for attacking Iran with Werritty and eventually with Fox before the Conservatives were even in government? Why did O’Donnell’s report so carefully mislead on the Fox-Gould-Werritty axis? How far was the FCO aware of MOD preparations for attacking Iran? Is there a neo-con cell of senior ministers and officials, co-ordinating with Israel and the United States, and keeping their designs hidden from the Conservative’s coalition partners?

The government could clear up these matters if it answered some of the questions it refuses to answer, even when asked formally by a member of parliament. The media have largely moved on from the Fox-Werritty affair, but have barely skimmed the surface of the key questions it raises. They relate to secrecy, democratic accountabilty and preparations to launch a war, preparations which bypass the safeguards of good government. The refusal to give straight answers to simple questions by a member of perliament strikes at the very root of our democracy.

Is this not precisely the situation we were in with Blair and Iraq? Have no lessons been learnt?

There is a further question which arises. Ever since the creation of the state of Israel, the UK had a policy of not appointing a jewish Briton as Ambassador, for fear of conflict of interest. As a similar policy of not appointing a catholic Ambassador to the Vatican. New Labour overturned both longstanding policies as discriminatory. Matthew Gould is therefore the first jewish British Ambassador to Israel.

Matthew Gould does not see his race or religion as irrelevant. He has chosen to give numerous interviews to both British and Israeli media on the subject of being a jewish ambassador, and has been at pains to be photographed by the Israeli media participating in jewish religious festivals. Israeli newspaper Haaretz described him as “Not just an ambassador who is jewish, but a jewish ambassador”. That rather peculiar phrase appears directly to indicate that the potential conflict of interest for a British ambassador in Israel has indeed arisen.

It is thus most unfortunate that it is Gould who is the only British Ambassador to have met Fox and Werritty together, who met them six times, and who now stands suspected of long term participation with them in a scheme to forward war with Iran, in cooperation with Israel. This makes it even more imperative that the FCO answers now the numerous outstanding questions about the Gould/Werritty relationship and the purpose of all those meetings with Fox.

There is no doubt that the O’Donnell report’s deceitful non-reporting of so many Fox-Gould-Werritty meetings, the FCO’s blunt refusal to list Gould-Werritty, meetings and contacts without Fox, and the refusal to say who else was present at any of these occasions, amounts to irrefutable evidence that something very important is being hidden right at the heart of government. I have no doubt that my informant is telling the truth, and the secret is the plan to attack Iran. It fits all the above facts. What else does?

Please feel free to re-use and republish this article anywhere, commercially or otherwise. It has been blocked by the mainstream media. I write regularly for the mainstream media and this is the first article of mine I have ever been unable to publish. People have risked a huge amount by leaking me information in an effort to stop the government machinery from ramping up a war with Iran. There are many good people in government who do not want to see another Iraq. Please do all you can to publish and redistribute this information.

UPDATE A commenter has already pointed me to this bit of invaluable evidence:

“My government absolutely agrees with your conception of the Iranian threat and the importance of your determination to battle it.” Dealing with the Iranian threat will be a large part of my work here.” Gould said.

From Israel National News. It also says that he will be trying to promote a positive atmosphere between Israel and the Palestinian National Authority, but the shallowest or the deepest search shows the same picture; an entirely biased indeed fanatical zionist who must give no confidence at all to the Palestinian Authority. He must be recalled.

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  1. Thanks for this, Craig.
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    There are many good people in government who do not want to see another Iraq.
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    Well they ought to have resigned then, because they’ve just made themselves another Iraq. It’s called Libya. If anything it’ll be worse than Iraq.

  2. On 29 May 2011 The Jerusalem Post reported: “British Ambassador Matthew Gould declared his commitment to Israel and the principles of Zionism on Thursday”.

    Remember this background, it is unusual behaviour for a diplomat, and it is important.


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    And Craig Murray said, “Zionism is bullshit!” which is also unusual behaviour for a diplomat, so presumably it takes all kinds.

  3. This kind of intel is the sort of thing that makes people feel “suicidal”. Watch your back Craig–you know what I am talking about. Best of luck.

  4. Angrysobs

    I said that some years after I ceased to be a diplomat.

  5. Supporting detail:
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/195253#.TsEHR2-GVvA
    ” Dealing with the Iranian threat will be a large part of my work here.” Gould said.

  6. Keep up the good work Craig! And always remove the battery in your mobile phone when not in use!

  7. I can’t work out whether the press has got no backbone, no balls or no foreskin.

  8. Excellent Craig. You have the fullest support from all of us here – well nearly all of us. I am pleased that your recent visit to St Paul’s was productive.

  9. I would have thought that a British Ambassador to a foreign country would first and foremost have Britain’s interests paramount, and I would not have expected him/her to go around expressing unequivocal support for the regime in his/her now resident country. Seems very strange and aloof behavior to say the least. And I certainly would expect this ambassador to be recalled forthwith.

  10. Jonangus Mackay

    14 Nov, 2011 - 12:38 pm

    ‘You cannot do this job without being a passionate Zionist.’ — Britain’s new ambassador to Israel, Matthew Gould, tells the Manchester-based Jewish Telegraph.
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    As a friend of mine remarked when I pointed this out immediately following Fox’s resignation: What if Her Majesty’s Government had appointed a white supremacist as its ambassador to S. Africa? Or a Communist as its ambassador to Moscow?
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    http://tinyurl.com/64btlae
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    Gould, along with fellow Zionist & Lord Mayor of London Mike Bear, key figure in bankster campaign to remove the London Occupy camp from St Paul’s Cathedral, opening in June 2011, the Tel Aviv stock exchange:
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    http://tinyurl.com/6eedktv
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  11. Excellent piece Craig. And so important if we are to oppose the threat of perpetual war at the behest of Zionist-Neocon pressure groups. Excellent piece of journalism. Hague should resign.

  12. Antelope Grazer

    14 Nov, 2011 - 12:39 pm

    Not sure I follow the bit about six meetings. I must have lost count somewhere around four. Could you list them, for clarity?

    If the GOD report was only talking about meetings when Fox was a minister (is that correct?), how many of the six were during that period?

  13. Excellent and important piece, Craig.

    Going back to Blair and Iraq, can we ask, in light of the Fox scandal: Has the British state been infiltrated by an operationally effective neocon/zionist presence?

    Sound like an episode of ‘Spooks’!

    In any even, these fuckers want war. They have to be stopped.

  14. kickstar: “And I certainly would expect this ambassador to be recalled forthwith.”

    Hear, hear.

  15. Antelope Grazer

    Fox Gould Werritty tripartite meetings

    One while Fox was Shadow Defence Secretary, ie before May 2010 – source FCO spokesman 21 October

    Two a social engagement in Summer 2010 – source reply to Corbyn’s parliamentary question 31 October

    Three a “brieifng” meeting in the MOD September 2010 – source O’Donnell report

    Four Herzilya conference fed 2011 – source numerous press reports

    Five “Private Dinner” Tel Aviv Feb 6 2011 source O’Donnell report

    Six “We believe in Israel Conference” London May 2011 source foreign diplomat in London

  16. “There are very important questions here. Was Gould really discussing neo-con plans for attacking Iran with Werritty and eventually with Fox before the Conservatives were even in government? Why did O’Donnell’s report so carefully mislead on the Fox-Gould-Werritty axis? How far was the FCO aware of MOD preparations for attacking Iran? Is there a neo-con cell of senior ministers and officials, co-ordinating with Israel and the United States, and keeping their designs hidden from the Conservative’s coalition partners?”

    I agree and they should continue to be asked. I don’t think you have proved that this amounts to a plan to attack Iran (although I daresay others here will see it as such) – the discussions may have, for example, been about sanctions or other methods which stop short of an attack, or they may have been meetings to get a better understanding of the Israeli position (which isn’t as striaghtforward as some may assume).

    They do demonstrate that Gould has a case to answer as to whether he has stepped over the line in being over partisan to Israel – but again without knowing what he said in the various meetings or what was actaully being discussed – we do not know that he has. And I for one believe that their should be due process before getting rid of disciplining public servants.

    As to why the story wasn’t accepted – may I suggest that moving from a “charitable explanation” to accusing O’Donnell of being “deceitful” may have had something to do with it as well as the other explanations provided.

    I know you may not like my analysis Craig – but it is honestly felt on my part.

  17. One point I will make, Craig, is that the piece doesn’t read like a “hard” newspaper article. There are also a lot of unnamed sources, which is quite understandable, but might have put a lot of news editors off; the former can easily be addressed if you sit down with a hack and go over the text.

    The info is all there — and it’s pretty devastating.

  18. Nearly 8000 results already for ‘craig murray matthew gould the plot to attack iran’ in under an hour since posting.
    12.56 GMT

  19. So!! Good tradecraft there Craig. Did you once work for SIS? Nice story.

  20. All readers should download this article: one never knows when when Craig’s website might suffer “problems”………….

  21. Absolutely agree with kickstar and Mike, an excellent work ‘Sherlock’, I hope that those journalistically minded amongst us have got it all already on their FB sites and that those you met for this info, are safe.

    Also do sent it to your MPs, show them we know what they don’t know, it riles them into action.

    I’m sure that EU embassies hearing of this will get a little frustrated with the current economic blame being put on their countries, they will be spitting dice to see that Bicom has more influence on our foreing policy resolve than the EU or NATO.

    Watch your steps Craig, you know what they are like, although MI6 who warned off Werrity should really focus on the issue rather than mauling the messenger, hope I’m right.

  22. Stephen, may I suggest you read Quelcrime’s and Komodo’s links to Hague and Gould and you will see that it is not just Craig’s postulations that show a definite trend to attack Iran. Add to this the fact that it has been on the US agenda for nine years to attack Iran. You should be trying to avert any such illegal actions, not trying to find excuses.

  23. While there is a great deal of information here there are two things missing.

    i) substantive evidence
    ii) context

    I understand how hard it is to obtain evidence when focusing on issues where there is so much at stake and you are dealing with the intelligence services. So this is not such a big deal.

    However, the absence of context here is somewhat concerning.

    While it would be folly for me to assume I know what the political class’ real aims and objectives are in respect of Iran, I would hope that substantial planning and preparation has been, and remains, underway to deal with the Iran’s apparent determination to develop a nuclear weapons capability.

    Iran represents a genuine threat to stability in the middle east. The world must not permit Iran to develop nuclear weapons. that has shown consistent hostility to Israel and has already used Hezbollah as a proxy to bring about conflict

  24. Janus, Kickstar: Hear, hear, get Gould back where he will less of a danger to world peace.

  25. COMMENT POSTED IN DAILY TELEGRAPH HOPE YOU DO NOT MIND.
    We now seem to have a British Ambassador in Israel volunteering our services to go to war with Iran whether we like it or not.
    Matthew Gould the first Jewish British Ambassador to Israel has wasted no time in declaring his unswerving support for Israel, Matthew Gould who is the only British Ambassador to have met former defence chief Liam Fox and friend Adam Werritty together, who met them six times, and who now stands suspected of long term participation with them in a scheme to forward war with Iran, in cooperation with Israel.
    I cannot understand why this mans appointment Not just as an ambassador who is jewish, but a jewish ambassador”. That rather peculiar phrase appears directly to indicate that the potential conflict of interest for a British ambassador in Israel has indeed arisen.
    I further cannot understand with all the information that has been outed about him, why this ambassador still holds that post ?

  26. Is Werrity MI6? Would explain his attendance at all these meetings, especially the Mossad chats.

  27. Autonomous Mind. The only country to have used nuclear weapons has been the US. I believe that if the USSR had not developed nuclear weapons the US would have continued using them. While I do not agree with any country developing such weapons Iran is much lower down on my list of fears than the US or Israel.

  28. Brilliant work, Craig. Good on you! I shall spread this widely, internationally.

  29. Thanks Craig – nothing like a good dose of Rage Against the Machine on a Monday morning. Can’t say I’m at all surprised by this – rage and despair are all that’s left. Keep on digging and watch your back.

  30. (Sorry, I accidentally posted while editing my previous comment. I’ll try again)

    While there is a great deal of information here there are two things missing.

    i) substantive evidence
    ii) context

    I understand how hard it is to obtain evidence when focusing on issues where there is so much at stake and you are dealing with the intelligence services. So this is not such a big deal.

    However, the absence of context here is somewhat concerning.

    While it would be folly for me to assume I know what the political class’ real aims and objectives are in respect of Iran, I would hope that substantial planning and preparation has been, and remains, underway to deal with the Iran’s apparent determination to develop a nuclear weapons capability.

    Iran represents a genuine threat to stability in the middle east. The world must not permit Iran to develop nuclear weapons. Iran is a country that has shown consistent hostility to Israel, is led by a fanatical and unpredictable regime, and has already used Hezbollah as a proxy to bring about conflict in southern Lebanon.

    While I do not want to see another war, I believe that a failure of diplomacy in preventing Iran developing nuclear weapons would make it a necessary evil. I also believe the responsible course of action is for the government to ensure it is ready to act if the situation demands it. Surely that is all that Craig is describing here.

  31. One has got to wonder – why have Private Eye or the Grauniad not picked this up yet? The others I can understand but I’m surprised by the silence from these two.

  32. North by Stringvest

    14 Nov, 2011 - 1:16 pm

    Autonomous M:
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    Iran represents a genuine threat to stability in the middle east. The world must not permit Iran to develop nuclear weapons. Iran is a country that has shown consistent hostility to Israel, is led by a fanatical and unpredictable regime, and has already used Hezbollah as a proxy to bring about conflict in southern Lebanon.
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    Israel represents a genuine threat to stability in the middle east. The world must not permit Israel to develop nuclear weapons. Israel is a country that has shown consistent hostility to Iran, is led by a fanatical and unpredictable regime, and has already used the USA as a proxy to bring about conflict in Iraq and elsewhere.

  33. Private Eye only comes out fortnightly: Guardian has been (I personally believe) subverted by recent cash injection from Israel-linked private equity firm. I posted details on other threads.

  34. Around about when was Gould writing speeches for the unfortunate Robin Cook? With friends like MG who needs enemies. What a snake!

  35. It’s interesting to read your comments about the pro-Israeli bias in the MSM. A few months ago, I said hello to Jon Snow after his interview of Gideon Levy at the Frontline Club in London. Simply to remind him who I was, I said I had sent him, pre-publication in 2008, my 7,000-word interview for Third Way of Khalid Mish’al of Hamas: http://bit.ly/lqxb6O. I thought Jon might say, at best, “Yeah, I vaguely remember that; but I didn’t have time to read it.” Instead, he looked slightly embarrassed and said, “I’m sorry we didn’t do anything with it, but – believe it or not – my editor thinks the viewers are bored with stories about Israel/Palestine and will just switch over to another channel.” The director of research/former head of the Middle East programme at Chatham House had told me that the interview was “very interesting” and its timing “could not be better, given the Israeli-Hamas truce” – but still it was completely ignored by the MSM.

  36. craig

    11th November 2011
    Stephen,

    I used to think you were a friendly and interesting commentator putting forward a different view, but now I realise you are just a troll. Of course the article is properly sourced, and it follows proper journalistic ethics, ie those criticised have been asked for their viewpoint. As I plainly stated, several national newspapers have fact-checked it and the facts are fine.

    Do you see a single querying of fact in the above exchanges? If there is a fear of libel – and nobody has ever sued me for libel, unlike for example convicted libellers Iain Dale and Guido Fawkes – the newspaper calls you in to go through it with the lawyer. I have been there many times before.

    This is nothing to do with libel or with doubted facts. Now stop being an obvious arse.

  37. The only concrete indication that an attack on Iran was on the agenda of any of these meetings, which clearly did take place, is obtained in a tent outside St Paul’s. Newspapers would want to know that person’s name and address, and would want a sworn statement. Being in with the neo-cons is a way of keeping in with the Americans, and Fox probably thought Werrity’s activities were keeping him in with them. Gould probably thought he had a better chance of being promoted if he kept in with Fox. But actually Werrity is a weirdo and it was all a souffle of piffle. It’s not conspiracy, it’s cock-up. Very interesting article, but it’s not taken me anywhere. And Werrity is still a mystery.

  38. Thank you for keeping these things uncovered and being honest.
    War is first and foremost about deception, and amidst all the information and disinformation, sometimes it is difficult to tell what is exactly going on.

    THIS :
    “And always remove the battery in your mobile phone when not in use!”

  39. “You should be trying to avert any such illegal actions, not trying to find excuses.”

    Perhaps one way of averting miltary action against Iran is not to be so blind to the deficiencies of the regime in that country and seek to use other mechanisms – sanctions etc. to deal with them. On the other hand – you could just take the view that Iran is doing nothing wrong at all and that all the evil is on the part of the US, Israel, UK, Freemasonry etc. – and the result will be that those who want war will have no effective alternative been proposed to gross violations of human rights will win the argument.

  40. Rather than accepting that Craig has written a superb article of investigative journalism this blog is becoming infested with apologists. Is this genuine personal commentary or a concerted effort to try to demolish the truth. I was expecting it. The truth hurts.

  41. “But actually Werrity is a weirdo and it was all a souffle of piffle.”

    So it would have been much easier for GOD to say so instead of restricting his “enquiry” to areas free of awkward questions, no?
    The police were going to interview Werritty re. possible fraud charges. Not a peep. Not a peep from or about Werritty…gone to ground, and the only person who now appears to have known him is Fox. The BICOM backers of the fraudulent charity set up by Fox and Werritty are running in all directions. If the government wants to end interest in this, all it has to do is be transparent (!), on your assessment. Meanwhile, people are going to pay close attention to the holes in a very incoherent narrative, and wonder what’s been cut out.

  42. North,
    I left a comment on your Oxus issues on another thread.

  43. Excellent article as usual, thanks.
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    I was particularly interested in the notion that political correctness made it OK to send a Jewish ambassador to Israel and a Catholic to the Vatican. Political correctness, of course, began to spread at exactly the same time as the massive upscaling of deregulation of the banks and development of globalisation. All of these things encourage uniformity.
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    There is probably something to be said for political correctness, but it assumes the correctness of a single viewpoint and seeks to force it on others if we are not careful.

  44. “And always remove the battery in your mobile phone when not in use!”
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    Am I correct in saying that it can not only be used to track you, but it can be used to listen to you?

  45. Someone here asks why The Guardian wasn’t on to the story a while back?

    After all, Jonathan Freedland of the Guardian was present at the “We Believe in Israel” conference in May 2011, at which Fox and Gould were present. Pity his ‘journalistic radar’ wasn’t switched on.

  46. “Werrity is a weirdo and it was all a souffle of piffle. It’s not conspiracy, it’s cock-up”
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    Do you have a source for this bombshell – you know, names addresses and sworn statements?

  47. And I mean listen to what you’re saying in the room (not only when you’re using the phone.)

  48. Brave man, Craig. Sadly none of the exposed facts about that trio surprise me. I hope you gain widespread coverage.

    …currently reading ‘Working in the silence’: Maurice Hopper. An account of human rights witness in the West Bank.(2003) One photo is of a banner hanging in the Ultra Orthodox Mea Shearim district of Jerusalem. It reads…
    “Jews are not Zionists. Zionists are not Jews only racists. Judaism & Zionism are diametrically opposed. We pray to G-D for an immediate end of Zionism and their occupation”

    Admittedly they are waiting for the Messiah, then it will be no holds barred!

  49. Is there a neo-con cell of senior ministers and officials, co-ordinating with Israel and the United States, and keeping their designs hidden from the Conservative’s coalition partners?

    You bet there is. First up Gove. An openly and fully paid up neocon when he was writing for the neocon Murdoch Times faithfully parroting the Wolfowitz-Perle gaenda in the early days of the Bush Administration.

    Second Hague who is more discrete than Gove and Fox.

    They are all following the Thatcher, Major and Blair line that slavishly following the US assures a comfortable post UK politics retirement. Major didn’t have a pot to piss-in when he left office but eventually Bush41 got him a sinecure with Carlyle Group flogging arms to the Middle East.

    In addition, yesterday Sir David Richards mentioned on TV they had war plans for Syria and Iran, should they become necessary.

  50. Rhisiart Gwilym

    14 Nov, 2011 - 2:04 pm

    Respect Craig. Pretty soon you’ll be getting the Prix Pilger for honest amateurs who show the spineless corporate media hacks how to do their job.

    Brilliant piece of work here. Exemplary of what real investigative journalism giving vital information to a — genuinely — free people should be.

    Many thanks! And yes, do watch out for the Kelly Supposed-Suicide Syndrome — what with your tendency to fall into depression fits and all…

    There are some very big global realpolitikal issues at stake here, and some of the world’s worst premier league hard-faced ruthless bastards in play. They think nothing of snuffing out inconvenient people, wholesale or retail.

  51. [Aside: "After a Iranian weapons depot mysteriously exploded on Saturday, a "Western intelligence source" told Time what many observers already believed to be true — that Israel was behind it. {http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/11/did-israel-blow-irans-missile-base/44931/}
    .
    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2099376,00.html ]

  52. Nuid, not just listen to you, phone conversations and general conversations, but if it has a camera what you are watching someone else can be watching, and even when you are not watching anything someone else can be.

  53. From the TWITter page of a Con MP’s assistant.
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    henryjamiesonHenry Jamieson
    Why can’t the press understand that no Con MP (esp Hammond) or Dr Fox will comment until after the CS’s report?It will be thorough and open.
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    http://twitter.com/#!/henryjamieson

  54. Scouse Billy

    14 Nov, 2011 - 2:07 pm

    Craig, I will post to Wayne Madsen and Webster Terpley – hope you don’t mind ;)

  55. Nuid, that link is frightening. It’s like a Muckden incident. No wonder they did not want to publish Craig’s article if this was on their agenda.

  56. Can I send a copy to my MP George Osborne?????

  57. Thanks John. Gave me the willies when I read something about that recently. Apparently turning it off is not enough. You must remove the battery. (I hope Craig is conscious of this.)

  58. Pee, it’s up to us to ensure Craig gets widespread coverage. Post it to everyone you know, every blog, every political commentary, everywhere.

  59. Nuid,

    I told people that in Murder in Samarkand! Please everyone do repost this article wherever you can. Anyone know how to get it on WhatReallyHappened.com?

    Craig

  60. I think I posted this comment elsewhere.

    Thanks for the courage.

    You might consider al-akhbar English, a widely read Lebanese daily which is pro-government (current government)

    http://english.al-akhbar.com/

  61. “do watch out for the Kelly Supposed-Suicide Syndrome — what with your tendency to fall into depression fits and all…”
    .
    Unfortunately, this is true. With this research Craig may have ceased to be a nuisance and become something more threatening. I suspect that the real problem here is that the evidence is starting to point inexorably towards Cameron, just like the Murdoch stuff. Cameron of course has a very colourful past when it comes to Israel, missing nuclear missiles and David Kelly.

  62. nuid :
    No, they cannot “listen” to anything if you’re not using the phone. It is possible to track phones for location, however, even when they are not being used as long as the battery is inside and it is emitting a signal.
    https://ssd.eff.org/wire/protect/cell-tracking
    As for those objecting to the “conspiratorial” nature of these accusations, the problem with conspiracies is that sometimes they are true. We shouldn’t let the tinfoil hat accusations get in the way of ascertaining what is probable and factual or not. If the past has taught us anything, especially in these matters, it is that the truth is sometimes very strange, and that government officials lie repeatedly.
    I’m willing to entertain some unsubstantiated claims if it is in the service of avoiding another stupid war which will benefit a minority of individuals. The benefits outweigh the costs.

  63. Nuid, yes, most mobiles can transmit whatever the mic is picking up, and can be activated remotely. The FBI (I think) have presented evidence obtained this way in court.
    .
    A mobile phone is a little computer with excellent characteristics for surveillance – microphone, camera, radio transceiver (for voice and data), memory, and an internal power source. It is voluntarily carried, charged and serviced by the target. Crucially, it’s programmable; whoever supplies its software controls its behaviour. Most modern phones update their software over the cell network, so the software can be modified remotely at any time.
    .
    The only handset system I believe to be under full control of the user is the OpenMoko running fully open-source Replicant software.

  64. We should make everything possible to get the word out and to stop them making any additional nuisance, be it attacking individuals or waging another war.

    No Pasaran!

  65. Cited here:
    http://www.21stcenturyfix.org/
    Thoughtful commentary:
    “Personally, right now, I don’t think I’m inclined to get involved in the argument over whether Iran should be attacked or not. I’m not sure it’s a good idea the Iranians in particular should have their own nuclear arsenal – on the other hand, I’m not inclined to believe that anyone’s nuclear arsenals make our planet a better place for coexistence. Where the grim realities remain, of course, we must do what we must do. So there I really cannot offer any easy advice.

    Even as I just can’t help remembering those WMDs which were never found in Iraq.

    Nor properly disregard how we were so damnably and completely manipulated on the subject of their alleged reach and destination.

    But where I am of a mind to pursue Craig’s line of reasoning is in this apparent conflict of interests quite at the very heart of British government. And the covert – that is to say, anti-democratic – way in which these interests appear to have been pursued.

    We come back again to the question of acting in the interests of another state before the tighter and more homegrown needs of the United Kingdom itself. And whilst I’m not legally qualified to know if any of this borders on a treasonable mindset, it certainly doesn’t seem to be a case of lily-white allegiances.”

  66. Sophia,

    I need individuals with ideas of places that might run this, to take the initiative themselves and forward it on. Anyone can publish it for free. We can only break through the mainstream media blackout by decentralised people’s power.

  67. Jonangus Mackay

    14 Nov, 2011 - 2:28 pm

    The Magical Werritty Tour’s local coach driver details to fellow-Zionists his qualifications for the gig: Matthew Gould reminds them that he was in fact for a time Britain’s acting ambassador to Iran. Note the eager-teenager — less than diplomatic, in the popular sense of the word — tone in which he repeatedly uses the word ‘we’ to outline the route towards Tehran ‘interdict’:
    .
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv1w1jKDy6Q

  68. I’ve submitted this to Indymedia UK (www.indymedia.org.uk), who have permitted articles from here before (they normally insist on original material, but I think they will let it stand). Will appear in a few minutes, usually it takes a little while to trickle through.
    .
    I’ll get in touch with the Morning Star just now.

  69. Excellent, the Indymedia publishing system is quick today:
    .
    http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/11/488512.html

  70. Oh, and I assume that the new touch screens can detect and record fingerprints. With an iPhone (“SpyPhone”), you can’t even take the battery out!

  71. I’ve sent a note to the Morning Star, maybe they will be interested.
    .
    Has anyone sent a note to Private Eye already?

  72. Probably a waste of time given its recent shift to the right, but New Statesman might be worth a go.

  73. A few lines as people have been talking about the security of mobile phones.There is a difference between being tracked via your phone and being located.All mobile phones, by virtue of them being mobile, “talk” to the nearest phone mast every hour or so, as a method of checking signal strength, you can actually hear this if you keep your phone next to a radio-alarm clock or computer with external speaker wires (which act as an arial).All mobile phones, even old ones can be “pinged”: that is to say, a silent signal is sent to the phone to which the phone responds, and its location can be found within 100 metres or so of the nearest mobile phone mast. Only modern, gps/internet connected phoned can be tracked, that is to say their movement over time logged.Even taking the battery out of a phone is not foolproof: many phones have small secondary power sources inside them to maintain certain functions (internal clocks, some types of memory etc..). The idea that phones can be turned – by an outside signal – into microphones in order to listen into a room has been much talked of but I am not aware of a proved incident of this being done: phones that are given to hostage-takers are modifed specifically to do this. The only secure method of isolating a mobile phone is to put it into a Faraday Cage, which blocks all signals both coming and going. You can buy a signal-blocking pouch for mobiles for a few quid on Ebay. These are a wise investment if you are concerned about the security of your phone.The downside is that you cannot receive calls while the phone is in the pouch.Buying a second-hand old style phone and using it with an unregistered, pay as you go sim card is not a bad idea, remembering only to top up the card with cash (if you top up using an ATM, the phone number will be linked to you bank account details). Of course, once the number you are using is associated with you, all the old problems arise.There isnt any such thing as truly secure communications.

  74. Stephen, wrt MSM not taking the piece, yes, I thought that too wrt calling ‘GOD’ (!) a liar. However, that would simply be the subject on an agreed edit to a more acceptable form of words (eg. ‘This calls inot question ‘GOD’s statement that…’) b/w editor and writer, something newspapers do all day, every day. It would not normally be grounds to reject the whole piece.
    .
    Good piece, Craig. Well done, man! I will spread this piece widely – internationally.

  75. ‘Is there a neo-con cell of senior ministers and officials, co-ordinating with Israel and the United States, and keeping their designs hidden from the Conservative’s coalition partners?’

    No. There’s a government within the government (some people call it a permanent government) that formulates important policy and the government as we know carries it out.

    So Werrity must be a senior intelligence officer accountable to the permanent government.

  76. Craig,

    I will be writing to E-Intifada and Angry Arab. The latter is frequent contributor to Al-Akhbar Arabic and English.

  77. Odd, a previous, shorter, post of mine – the second paragraph of the one just above’s Ruth’s – appeared earlier this afternoon on this thread, then disappeared! Technical stuff. And yes, we all shall spread it widely. The cat is out of the bag. Whether its roar is heard is another matter. Let’s give it some amplification, people!

  78. Following your suggestion, fully reposted at http://log.jmce.eu/craig-murray-matthew-gould-and-the-plot-to-at (tempted to make a Portuguese translation one of these days…).

  79. Rob and Peter Bryce, cellphone “roving bug”:
    .
    http://news.cnet.com/2100-1029-6140191.html

  80. For what it’s worth, I’ve sent it on to Private Eye too.

  81. It is hard for me to find the thread links to my relevant posts, but I have consistently reported here from my own sources a British/American/Israeli plot to attack Iran as a consequence of Iran’s involvement in Syria.
    .
    Craig’s whistle-blowing today coincides with America’s insistence that 1000 FBI and secret service agents should be stationed in the UK as security for the Olympic Games early next year.
    .
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/nov/13/us-worried-london-olympics-security-2012
    .
    Already the Daily Mail has said:
    ‘The internal threat is growing more dangerous because some extremists are conducting non-lethal training without ever leaving the country. Should these extremists then decide to become suicide operatives, intelligence resources, eavesdropping and surveillance would be hard pressed to find them on any radar screen.’
    .
    According to the paper, MI5 says that the figure of 200 terrorists is a “conservative estimate”. In reality the threat is likely to be much greater.
    .
    My source is convinced that a false-flag attack is currently in the ‘exercise drill’ stage and a bunch of recent Iranian asylum seekers have been approached early this year by another group linked to British secret service called the Iranian Refugees Action Network.
    .
    I am convinced these Iranians will be ‘caught’ in a terrorist plot by the Olympic Games FBI/SS operatives shortly to be stationed in the UK and the main-stream media used to turn the British public against Iran in preparation for a vote in Parliament to assist in an American strike. I believe a high level meeting is planned on November 30th to green light this evil plan.

  82. One way to identify other members of the putative neocon cell is to look at who appointed (or influenced the appointment of) Gould from 2003 onwards to posts in Tehran, Washington and Tel Aviv where he was in a key position to monitor or influence policies on Iran.

  83. “Nuid,
    I told people that in Murder in Samarkand!”
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    Sorry Craig, I’ve read the book but I had forgotten that bit. :)
    .
    “Please everyone do repost this article wherever you can”
    .
    Done the blog, done Twitter, just about to do Facebook, and then do an email to all contacts.

    ———-

    Clark and everyone else, thanks for the info on the phones. Aren’t we the eejits going around carrying those things? I’m tempted to revert to my old Nokia
    (not that I’m Craig Murray! or likely to be tracked/followed/listened to or anything else. It’s just creepy.)

    ———-

    John, I found it hard to believe that was an ‘accidental explosion’ at an ammunition depot. After all, we don’t often hear of such indidents elsewhere (US or Israel or UK for example) and we have no reason to imagine that the Revolutionary Guards are any more butter-fingered than anyone else.

  84. Craig, you are the man. Fantastic detective work, dog on you and may your zeal for truth be infectious, so that the rest of the ball less wonders occupying the lofty editorial desks hang their useless heads in shame.
    ,
    Guy I am impressed, especially with the part of getting “Billy Fourteen Pints” AKA Honourable Hague to come out with the nonsense that he has.
    ,
    ,
    ,
    Mary,

    The article was rejected, because of not using the right font, and it was sent on a day that was not starting with S, and the inauspicious hour that it was sent had a lot to do with its rejection too!
    ,
    Damn good answer there.

  85. at the age of 24 when cameron was in the thatcher government he travelled to racist south africa where he helped Israel to obtain 9 nuclear warheads

    Anyone want to know what causes dyslexia?

  86. Carmen Havana Giraffe

    14 Nov, 2011 - 3:07 pm

    Links added to various Wikipedia articles, but they’ll probably be taken down by psychos – worth keeping an eye.

    Adam Werritty
    Liam Fox
    Craig Murray
    Israel–United Kingdom relations

    I’m sure there are plenty more appropriate articles.

  87. To drop one warhead on its fuze at a military base may be regarded as a misfortune; to drop two looks like an act of external aggression….

  88. Nuid, I can’t understand why the explosion was not reported in the Sundays. I fluctuate between the Observer and Independent on Sunday and really used to like the Independent on Sunday, but there is so little world news these days, or even other notable news, I wonder if it’s worth getting a Sunday newspaper at all.

  89. Pony Chase John

    14 Nov, 2011 - 3:13 pm

    Who are those hungry freaks in the picture? That’s what’s got me scared. Gould looks quite the cleancut kid compared to the others.

  90. Dear Craig,

    I wrote to Electronic Intifada and Alain Gresh (monde diplomatique), as well as jadaliyya, on Twitter. I also wrote to Angry Arab asking him to publish on his site and in Al-Akhbar where he publishes regularly.

    I will still think of other places. I think you have to reach out to Walt and Mearsheimer. Did you try LRB? I felt they were tending too much to zionist lobby by publishing the lame Stephen Smith (who is no doubt a US agent) twice on Ivory Coast.

  91. Nuid, according to the Guardian it was an accident.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/14/iran-explosion-missile-expert

  92. Carmen Havana Giraffe

    14 Nov, 2011 - 3:25 pm

  93. But according to the Guardian, it wasn’t an accident…
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/julian-borger-global-security-blog/2011/nov/14/iran-nuclear-weapons
    And the usual suspects are making the usual noises about more to come.
    Interestingly, the MEK has been named as participating in this alleged act of war. The MEK (strongly supported by Israel and the US in acts of terrorism against Iran) is virtually indistinguishable from the PKK (official terrorist organisation, strongly deprecated by US and shot at by Turkey)

  94. Good sleuthing Craig. Not conclusive , of course, but the stonewalling both you & Jeremy Corbyn encountered is likely indicative of something rotten that can’t stand further scrutiny.

    ‘the discussions may have, for example, been about sanctions or other methods which stop short of an attack, or they may have been meetings to get a better understanding of the Israeli position (which isn’t as striaghtforward as some may assume).’

    On whose authority, Stephen, is Werritty acting an an interlocutor between the UK & Israeli governments ? And to which of these parties is he ultimately answerable ?

  95. Nuid,
    Evidently you are getting tired of my “know it all attitude”, However to consider sabotage in any military barracks, is the stuff of mad fantasies, which evidently does not concern you.
    ,
    Further, the same line of “aggressive actions” was taken up by the BBC Persian division, immediately after the explosion whilst the palls of smoke were hanging in place (not an outfit to miss an opportunity for propaganda).
    ,
    Moral of of the story; given the article that we are in the thread of. In the current climate of hysterical “all out propaganda” against Iran, an accident that is probable in any barracks in any part of the world. Due to the explosive nature of their stock in trade. Somehow blowing a simple accident out of proportion, and cause worries, as well as setting markers in place, in the minds of the public at large, does not cross your mind.
    ,
    Google and see the number of accidents in ammunition depots across the world, why do you think transportation of explosives anywhere in the world entails a huge deal of regs, and edicts?

  96. I have emailed WhatReallyHappened.com. The addy is wrh@whatreallyhappened.com

  97. I’ve emailed the link to Richard Stallman for his ‘Political Notes’ page, I should think it will get listed.

  98. @OldMark

    “On whose authority, Stephen, is Werritty acting an an interlocutor between the UK & Israeli governments ? And to which of these parties is he ultimately answerable ?”

    I don’t know – but my guess is that it may have been Liam Fox – he was Fox’s main bag carrier when in opposition and I suspect Fox may have preferred the freedom of him not becoming a SPAD subject to civil service rules when he became Secretary of State. Why else was Fox trying to secure funding for him and it would have been easier for Fox to disclaim him and not resign (as clearly Cameron wanted) if he was someone else’s creature. I don’t think Fox ever made any secret of his support for Israel/Atlantic Bridge.

  99. written to EI as well, Sophia, given it to many friends FB, editors of EDP, my MP richrad Bacon, PM, Channel 4 news, sky news. Shall carry on doing it for some time got loads more to do.

  100. Nuid, we are increasingly surrounded by programmable devices. Their software is generally a “trade secret”, and thus under the control of the manufacturers rather than the users. Communications companies have already been caught supplying information from intercepted communications for use in abusive interrogation (torture) sessions (sorry, I can’t find the link).
    .
    These devices are the corpocracy’s robots, literally agents of the corporations that we admit into our personal lives. They (mostly) do as we ask, which is why we keep them and pay for them. Ultimately, however, the users are not their masters, and when a device is performing some mission for some company or a governmental or commercial client, the user is unlikely to be aware. This is why software freedom is such an important issue. I advocate joining the Free Software Foundation, and rejecting all non-free software.
    .
    http://www.fsf.org/about/

  101. I’ve posted it on the Julian Borger blog.

  102. Very good Craig and commentators. Solidarity in truth against the black tide.

    The partisanship, treachery and odour of HM Ambassador Gould can be diagnosed from this letter I sent to the FOREIGN Secretary 11 March. It has not received a response either from the FCO, with reminders, or through my MP, Mr Stride. This is the democracy they have on the stocks for the rabbles in Libya.

    .

    http://dhalpin.infoaction.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=110&Itemid=2

    {http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=211377}

    .

    In response to the inevitable question about the universal jurisdiction law which has prevented various Israeli dignitaries from visiting the UK for fear of arrest, Gould said: “We got ourselves into a bit of a mess because of a legal anomaly that needs to be fixed. A legal amendment to the law has been introduced, he said, and is working its way through the parliamentary process. “All three major political parties support the change.” Gould was confident that the amendment would pass into law “in months not years”.

    .

    But we see that Mr Gould is consistent in bending his knee before criminals.

    ”On the lighter side, Gould said that when he met Opposition Leader Tzipi Livni, he apologized to her for the fact that the British Mandate authorities had arrested her parents.”

    I recalled a connection between Ms Livni, her father and Irgun. This from the Jewish Virtual Library {http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/TLivni.html}

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    Her parents both belonged to right-wing Revisionist Zeev Jabotinsky’sBetar movement, which morphed into Herut and then today’s Likud party. They were also both fighters in its Irgun undergound militia. The “little Sarah,” who figured in the words of the rousing “On the Barricades,” was actually her mother, Sarah (Rosenberg) Livni, who once, disguised as a pregnant woman, helped rob a train carrying salaries for British Mandatory officials.

    .

    Did Mr Gould ask Ms Livni how many British soldiers did her parents help kill, including those who had fought to free Europe from the Nazis in those few years before? Or how many Palestinians did they drive from their homes, their land and their living by terror and force of arms? Does the ambassador know that the parents he was jokingly forgiving had been part of the ethnic cleansing of 800,000 of the native people, that being two-thirds of the Palestinian population? Does he appreciate that Ms Livni is an important cog in the genocide of the Palestinian people which has continued over the 62 years to this day? Did the Livni parents play any part in the massacre of Deir Yassin or in the many other massacres? Would or should a British representative even joke about forgiving such people?

    .

    Single ticket for Gould on El Al. Job as a nursing auxiliary at Queen Elizabeth Hospital amongst the withered poppies please.

  103. “at the age of 24 when cameron was in the thatcher government he travelled to racist south africa where he helped Israel to obtain 9 nuclear warheads”

    Larry Levin: this isn’t correct. Israel had already supplied S Africa with the missiles, but the S Africans wanted to get rid of them before the ANC took over. The US took 6 and Thatcher agreed to take the remaining three. Cameron (then a mere researcher) and David Kelly were involved in sorting out the details. To cut a long story short, Britain was double-crossed by a shady arms dealer who sold the missiles on the black market. N Korea detonated one of them a couple of years ago, the other two remain missing.

  104. The disturbing fact about these meetings between Fox, Gould, Werritty et al, is that normal protocol channels and procedures have been bypassed. Hague, in particular, is answerable to parliament.

  105. It’s too early to cheer, but certainly a Britain without The Sun is a warming thought:
    .
    http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2011/11/14/leveson-inquiry-could-this-be-the-end-for-the-sun/

  106. Any invitation to go on Newsnight Craig? I thought not.

    .
    PS Does Gould wear dark blue suits, blue shirts and white ties to match the colours of the Israeli flag?
    http://www.jewishsoftware.com/products/files/jcaFLAG.gif

  107. Matthew Gould, Britain’s new ambassador to Israel, sets out his goals for his new position in this video recorded shortly before his arrival in Israel on 12 September 2010.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbIT8mHS5ac

  108. Ingo,

    We will see how much anti-war is left in the Left…Juan Cole blocked me on Twitter for highlighting his contradictions and errors in his stance on the Iraq and Libya wars. I am pessimistic…The Left was sold the idea that current wars are made for humanitarian reasons. This is the biggest of lies but they accept it any way. Don’t know why…

  109. Zionists here always shout anti-Semitism when people accuse them of having dual loyalties.

    But the fact is they don’t have dual loyalties.
    People like the “British” ambassador to Israel, the Conservatives friends of Israel, Labour friends of Israel, the Liberal Democrat friends of Israel and the Zionist press only have one loyalty.
    And that unquestionable loyalty is to Israel.
    They do not have any loyalty to Britain what so ever. Never have, never will.

  110. A first-class piece of journalism to compensate for the journalism which is not being done by the gutless journos. Well done, Craig. It’s up.

  111. What’s happening on Google? Lunchtime today:
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    ‘Nearly 8000 results already for ‘craig murray matthew gould the plot to attack iran’ in under an hour since posting.
    12.56 GMT
    .

    and now they are saying.
    About 6,170 results. Impossible. Does Google’s counter run backwards?
    .

    Glad to see you back posting Clark.

  112. This impassioned performance will make the hair stand up on the back of your neck.
    .
    RAFEEF ZIADAH is a Canadian-Palestinian spoken word artist and activist. Her debut CD Hadeel is dedicated to Palestinian youth, who still fly kites in the face of F16 bombers, who still remember the names of their villages in Palestine and still hear the sound of Hadeel (cooing of doves) over Gaza.
    .
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKucPh9xHtM&feature=player_embedded#!
    We Teach Life Sir!

  113. Who’s been a busy boy then:) Just managed to introduce this thread on various threads in the coment is free section of the Guardian, see how long they saty in there.

  114. Mark Golding: of course I know nothing of your sources, but I have been musing on the possibility of a false flag terror attack during the Olympics for a while, and this story by the Grauniad adds fuel to my suspicions. What could be higher-profile? One thing’s for sure: I’m going to be steering clear of London for those two weeks.

  115. Mark posted earlier about an invasion of US goons at the Olympics. Fox asked Hammond today about missiles. Yoy could not make it up!
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    Ground-to-air missiles ‘may protect’ London 2012 games
    Eleven police forces and the military are involved in the security effort for London 2012
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    Related Stories
    UK happy on Olympic security plan
    Olympic planners ponder troop use
    IOC ‘confident’ over 2012 safety
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    Defence Secretary Philip Hammond has told MPs that ground-to-air missiles will be deployed to protect the 2012 Olympic Games in London if deemed operationally necessary.
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    He was asked to confirm this by the former defence secretary Liam Fox.
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    It was Mr Hammond’s first appearance at Defence Questions since taking over from Mr Fox.
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    The comments follow reports of concern in the United States about security plans for the Games.
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    The Guardian claimed the US was furious about security plans and wanted to send up to 1,000 of its own people, including 500 FBI agents but the Home Office says it has “full confidence” in the plans.
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    ‘All necessary measures’
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    Mr Hammond was asked by his predecessor to confirm whether there would be a “full range of multilayered defence and deterrents” in place for the 2012 Games including surface-to-air missiles.
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    /…
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15724639

  116. mike bingham

    14 Nov, 2011 - 5:55 pm

    i cannot understand why our senior civil servants, police officers and officers of the armed forces do nothing and say nothing about these things. they must know whats actually going on. and presuming they do, are they all traitors or just too stupid to act on the information available to them?

    seems we are at war with ourselves these days with fifth columns everywhere.

  117. ‘Did Mr Gould ask Ms Livni how many British soldiers did her parents help kill, including those who had fought to free Europe from the Nazis in those few years before?’

    The Irgun resumed bomb attacks against the forces of the British Mandate in February 1944, after suspending operations against them on the outbreak of war in September 1939. No British Ambassador to Israel should therefore proffer apologies, via one of their offspring, to deceased members of the Irgun for any indignities they may have suffered whilst prosecuting their murderous campaign before, during, and after WW2, against civilian and military personnel acting under the Palestine mandate.

  118. Hello
    Michael Rivero on What Really Happened is carrying the whole thing.
    Timed at 8.43 if you want to check it out.
    A very popular site, globally!.

  119. Craig – excellent article.

    I think that it is beyond all supposition that there is an issue with even-handedness and honesty in regards to policies in the Middle East.

    Isn’t it time something is done, so that the world isn’t needlessly engulfed in World War 3?

    Contrary to some moronic thought, a war economy will not bring the world out of the economic depression currently being experienced; the frog is in the pot, and the bubbles are beginning to form.

  120. Craig, I would be interested to know whether your blog has had a higher than normal hit rate today.

  121. Thank you for your work Craig. You put to shame those lined up at the Cenotaph on Sunday, even as they scheme in the background to add to the dead.

    David Cameron in particular seemed to have to work extra hard to keep a straight face.

  122. Mike:

    “i cannot understand why our senior civil servants, police officers and officers of the armed forces do nothing and say nothing about these things. they must know whats actually going on. and presuming they do, are they all traitors or just too stupid to act on the information available to them?”

    It’s not as simple as that. They are up against forces far stronger than them. Look at a list of people who piped up against the power that be, and then proceeded to die “interestingly”.

    However, if they’re lucky, they just get sacked and replaced with someone more convenient.

    This is how the world works.

  123. John Goss 14th November 2011
    ‘I can’t work out whether the press has got no backbone, no balls or no foreskin.’

    This brought to mind an article I read yesterday in truthout:

    Former Guantanamo Chief Prosecutor: “A Pair of Testicles Fell Off the President After Election Day”

    http://www.truth-out.org/former-guantanamo-chief-prosecutor-pair-testicles-fell-president-after-election-day/1320935259

  124. Here is an interesting take on the recent IAEA report on alleged Iranian efforts regarding WMD. http://www.raceforiran.com/pulling-the-iaea-into-the-%E2%80%9Cattack-iran%E2%80%9D-debate-will-backfire

    Yes, this is feeling much like the lead up to the 2003 Iraq scam.

  125. Chuck Sanderson, I notice that Irshan has published a link to this current blog on your link. Great!

  126. Sorry, I should have written Irshad not Irshan

  127. Don’t see it on WRH, Daisy. Can you provide a URL?
    .
    But you can see it here, nicely formatted!

  128. Seems possible to post this into Foxs, Werritys and Goulds Bios on Wiki but a bit worried about libel backlash on you Craig

  129. Johnstone

    I cam think of nothing I would love more than interrogating them under oath in a libel court. They may think I would be on trial, but it is not I who has stuff to hide…

  130. John Goss,

    12,884 have read it so far on this site, and it has been repeated on multiple sites.

  131. BarryR38, it seems the whole world’s dropping bollocks these days even Barack Obbollockama – but it’s true. He made so many promises when he came to power. I was really sucked in by his inaugural speech but find now he is no different from the others. Perhaps he did mean what he said to begin with. But the White House does not have its own prostitutes for nothing. It’s to compromise presidents, because all I can assume is if he did mean what he said originally, he must have been compromised to change his mind so dramatically. It’s how secret societies work too. Even the photographs of some of the initiations would be enough to put many marriages at risk.

  132. Brilliant Craig! I’m expecting that number to increase substantially when the other half of the world wakes up! Keep us posted please.

  133. All reference to this site on Guardian threads have been erased by the mods, they must be fearing the backlash already. we would not want to see Rushy filling his bridges now would we.
    Overall we have not done too bad for day one. Anybody has any idea on how this has worked out on FB?

  134. I’ve Facebooked. Google hits down to 484. Que pasa?

  135. Adrian Buckley

    14 Nov, 2011 - 7:37 pm

    I shall be having supper with the Foreign Secretary in ten days time in Yorkshire. Would you like me to print off your report and question him on it?

  136. Another Iraq, in the sense of joining in an American invasion of Iraq, ill-planned as it was, could indeed be a disaster, and joining it be against the UK’s national interest. But this sounds like an isolated operation, comparable to the strike against Iraq’s nuclear facility in the 80s. If the British got involved, it would presumably be in a support role, with American missiles and IDF aeroplanes doing the actual dirty work.

    My question is: if Iran’s nuclear facilities were destroyed in an operation which did not amount to a full-scale invasion, would this necessarily be against the UK’s national interest, given that it might destabilise the regime and help to democratise the country?

  137. Worked for a few minutes only then it was gone, sorry

  138. Ingo,

    I have seen my comments erased after being published on TheGuardian website without any infringement to their moderating policy. Did you take screen shots of your comments?

  139. Rusbridger and Prescott on Ch 4 News just now discussing media matters!

  140. Abe Rene,

    You’re dreaming and like many in the Left, totally in denial that the goal is not to democratise but to destabilise.

  141. Excellent Craig: But how long would it take britons to ralize that live under Rothschild´s kingdom, Gould appointment as ambassador it is not a mere coincidence.- Whenever MSM signals it is never in the right direction, if we are looking for dictators, regime change, tax & bank abuse, criminal wars and the like,we shouldn´t look further than the absolute tiranny in the real politics of England that´s exercised by “bwana” Rothschild and Bros. Just tell me about a single one official that´s not a mason, that as a rule and oath masons must protect Jewish & Israel, and that as a rule of money Rothschilds run the Masons.- Uncut & occupiers must rallie in front of Jacob Rothschild manor instead of St. Paul Cathedral.-

  142. Brilliant job Craig Murray. Try the Keiser report, Counterpunch and Antiwar,all of them might take it.I thought Ex-Pat’s comments on Iraq horror on your blog of the 13th very accurate.I went to the House of conmen last year to listen to the Henry Jackson mob, the usual suspects there Reid ,45 minutes Rifkind,left early stomach trouble!Did anyone catch Monbiot’s piece in the Indy last week re: a researcher who did a survey of sociopaths/psychopaths in Broadmoor and another on a comparable number of C.E.O.s ,the latter ,suprise suprise, scored far higher! the message being if you’re born poor & psycho you’ll end up behind high bars but if rich or well connected up the top of high very smart buildings. Spent a lot of Sunday on Brian Haw and Babs Tucker’s patch in Parliament Sq: some abuse but also alot of sympathy from Spaniards Portuguese Chinese et al .There is a growing awareness of the level of corruption.I quite agree about Gove ,a vicious little cove, haven’t forgotten him calling Iraq a glorious adventure,as for s Marr m I awarded him the Goebbels award with Arsonofabitch runner up for their contributions to reporting over the last ten years.The Daily Wail will scream whatever it is told to scream, a sick sick state we’re in.The only moment that gave a tiny flicker of amusement were the off mike comments between Sarcrazy & Obomba re: Yesanyahoo.As to the Bliar, see my website,why oh why is he given one second of airtime? How complicit is he in Fox Gould Werrity ? Meanwhile we have Keitel Richards congratulating the forces for bombing Libya flat,real Bullingdon gallantry kicking someone repeatedly who is lying on the ground unable to defend themselves. A.I.L. for OIL. What’s changed since Atilla the Hun? Keep it up Craig you’re shining a light where the crawling things don’t want it shone.

  143. Sophia I liked your website where I found these photos of pre 1948 Palestine which belong to Abu Issa.
    .
    About Me
    Call me ‘Abu-Issa’, I’m a Palestinian living in Montreal, Canada. Though I live on the opposite side of the planet from where I was born, Palestine is never far from my heart. This blog, for one, is meant to show support for my brothers and sisters but also to show how a Palestinian lives in exile.
    http://montreal-palestine.blogspot.com/2007/01/old-newspaper-clippings.html

    .
    At the end of the Picassa file on his post, I spotted the two Palestine Police Force Wanted posters for Begin and the others in Irgun and the Stern Gang.

  144. Great article Craig,

    The Werritty story still has legs, despite the manstream media smucks having lost interest. We are all fine at the moment… until they start locking up bloggers… then we are f**ct. In the meantime there seem to be 3 Big problems.

    1. Economic meltdown form finacial terrosists
    2. War with Israel-Iran.
    3. Europe being taken over by Banksters.

    #Zionism

  145. kudos to whoever keeps putting the links back up on Guardian cif threads. Keep the thought police busy deleting them.

  146. Adrian Buckley

    14 Nov, 2011 - 8:00 pm

    Just read a little more on your site about BICOM…. had supper at Poju Zablodonovich’s house on Bishops Avenue as well , I guess I was recorded by Mossad demanding a Gold standard monetary system , to the horror of Bilderberg lieutenant Ken Clarke ;-) please feel free to email me Craig.

  147. »If you click the title of the story on WRH Craig’s site with story comes up – so I can’t get closer than this below.
    I have picked up the item from the site.
    You will see the title and the time.
    Go to What Really Happened and scroll down to the 8.43 mark. Each story carries a time with it.
    It has been up now for quite a good few hours so is getting further down the list. But look at the time against each story – you can’t miss it.

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    Nov 14 08:43
    Matthew Gould and the Plot to Attack Iran
    Tags:

    * GREAT BRITAIN
    * IRAN

    This is Matthew Gould, second from right, British Ambassador to Israel, who was pictured speaking at a meeting of the Leeds Zionist Federation that was also the opening of the Leeds Hasbarah Centre. The Leeds Zionist Federation is part of the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland, motto “Speaking Up for Israel.” A collection was made at the meeting to send packages to members of the Israeli Defence Force.

    On 29 May 2011 The Jerusalem Post reported: “British Ambassador Matthew Gould declared his commitment to Israel and the principles of Zionism on Thursday”.

    Remember this background, it is unusual behaviour for a diplomat, and it is important.
    »

    * 1 comment
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  148. Adrian,

    I should be delighted if you raised it, though you may see a reduction in your dinner invitations…

  149. My friend Tony sent me your article.
    He put it up on his blogs.
    I followed by putting it on my blogspot also.

    The only thing that the Machine fears is [exposure].

  150. Now 6th story down on Jeff Rense.
    Rense.com
    Has massive international readership.

  151. To Mary,

    Delighted that you found something interesting on my blog.

    To all,

    I have nearly exhausted my network and places I know might be interested by the story. However, I found that there are people in West who have the same reaction in non mainstream as in mainstream media, probably because they don’t want to lose their connections to MSM. There are in fact two major stories in this post, the story of the lobby at MOD and the story of the influence of the lobby within MSM

    Counterpunch might still be an interesting place to contact.

  152. You’ll be sorry a lot about what you wrote. You can not imagine how much you will suffer.

  153. Craig do I have your consent to translate this work, and distribute it?

  154. Fedup

    Feel free.

  155. http://govermentterrorism.blogspot.com/2011/11/httpwww.html

    Craig your article should be front page news, you are sending chills down my spine.

    The Olympics, (see above link ) I fear England /U.S along with Israel will repeat a 9/11 during the Olympics blaming Iran and this will be the springboard to invade !

    The warnings ‘now’ to prepare the country suggesting missiles !!!! remember Craig the London Bombings and a ‘dry run’ taking place at the very same time, same train…blah blah blah…The exact same thing happened in Madrid, the day before military exercises ???..Ex PM Jose Maria fled Spain straight into the arms of Murdoch he now sits on the board of directors at News Corps ! The new PM Zapatero, told a full house in Parliament Aznar had destroyed all information with regards to the Madrid Train Bombings !

  156. Sorry Sophia, screenshots?? moire? I’m running a steam iron here and have not mastered much intecracies of IT.

    max keiser is a good idea, the mans an icon, but he likes the financial angle so he would need asn Atlantic bridge angle to it.

    Just teased newsnight, I mean who wants to report a boring Mansion House speech when they can calm down our NATO/EU partners by informing the world what has been going on behind the scenes of this Government, plans made years ago in opposition, the fruition of which we are now partial to.

    I think that this plot started in 2000 with the handing over of false blueprints to Iranians reps in Vienna, this plan to attack Iran as part of the axis of evil was long planned, but these plonkers cocked it up, by being too in our face and too sure of themselves. let them roast!

  157. Killer

    Thank you for that stunning intellectual contribution.
    Interesting in fact that so far there has been no attempt from any source to try to contradict or deny this, given its huge exposure across the net already.

  158. Surprised? Why. And god sent his angel down to earth to prepare for battle.

  159. Google “matthew-gould-and-the-plot-to-attack-iran”
    and you will see 19,000 hits. Also most of the unofficial media…

  160. Popped a message to Alan Hart, thought he might be interested to see it. We need a UK ICH…

  161. Ahh the other side of the world is waking up, what eloquence out of such a big mouth, killer, and before you had your breakfast.

  162. http://govermentterrorism.blogspot.com/2011/11/77-london-bombings-terror-rehearsal.html

    Craig to remind your readers of the ASTOUNDING coincidence on the London Bombings. Peter Power ALSO fled the country the following day !

    I expect this video to be removed anytime now ! I do however have a transcript.

  163. Komodo – if you google the exact phrase, you will get 789 hits, which is most of the reposts so far. Some of them are from very high volume sites. It’s been read by 14,238 people on this site so far. Add in 789 more sites, and it has certainly been read by more than a million people (if this site were the average, it would be ten million).

    If we redouble our efforts, I see no reason we cannor get more readers than we would have done in the mainstream media. This has been quite a cheering eye-opener to me. And still the Israeli lobby is yet to come up with a response…

  164. What a stinking mess. Please god we vote for independence in the referendum so we can get out of this shit.
    And, in the process hopefully,so diminish the military-industrila complex that our English neighbours & friends can get their democracy back too.

  165. Top of the “what’s hot” list on Veterans Today, even:
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/12/29/the-meeting-of-the-morally-repugnant-and-logically-repugnant-can-be-sublime-or-not/
    (To the right of the article)

  166. Craig, that’s 19,000 views, probably. I didn’t count the pages of sites carrying it. 19,100, now…

  167. It has become quite clear that at a senior level, all three political parties in the UK are in collusion. To suggest that Gould is not the best choice as Ambassador to Israel, as he has declared himself to be “A Jewish Ambassador” is a joke, when in fact most of the British elite are now Zionist and have as William Hague has done, declared their undying support of Israel. This is a reminder of the position of the British Ruling Classes, when just before the outbreak of WW2 they were all strutting around as Nazi’s. This included members of the Royal Family. Some things never change. However, before long we are going to have to stand toe to toe with Zionism, before they destroy us all.

  168. Passerby,
    These links are for you – all posted above. I find your comment above garbled, but I gather you’re accusing me of having “mad fantasies”.
    .
    {http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/11/did-israel-blow-irans-missile-base/44931/}
    .
    {http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2099376,00.html}
    .
    {http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/14/israel-mossad-iran-blast}
    .
    {http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/julian-borger-global-security-blog/2011/nov/14/iran-nuclear-weapons}
    .
    “Somehow blowing a simple accident out of proportion, and cause worries, as well as setting markers in place, in the minds of the public at large, does not cross your mind.”
    .
    I’m not sure whose sensibilities you’re so concerned about, British, American, Iranian, Israeli, or other, but no doubt the above mainstream reports/opinions carry far more weight than my Saturday musings on this blog. Don’t you think?
    .
    ———
    .
    “And the usual suspects are making the usual noises about more to come. Interestingly, the MEK has been named as participating in this alleged act of war.”
    -Komodo
    .
    The MEK were being funded by the US even while they were named on the US State Dept’s list of terrorist organisations. Last thing I read was that some members of Congress are trying to have them de-listed because they have “renounced violence”. (This just happens to be the first link I came across tonight):
    http://www.habilian.ir/en/Legal/mek-trawls-halls-of-congress-for-support-us-official.html
    .
    By the way, Mary, “Brian Binley, MP” supports these calls (know anything about him?) and he claims to be representing “500 British Parliamentarians from all parties and both Houses of Parliament”
    {http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/178407-appeal-to-secretary-clinton-to-delist-the-mek}
    .
    (Wish we had Preview!)

  169. Rocki, see Mark Golding’s earlier comment on the same subject. It is disturbing and what Mark says about the “dirty tricks” brigade using asylum-seekers as cannon-fodder for their sting is extremely plausible, since asylum-seekers have no money, Theresa May wants to see them all sent back regardless of the repressive nature of the regimes from which they’ve escaped. For the government this kills two birds with one stone. And as you say it could be the UK’s ‘war on terror’. It’s very worrying.

  170. The Avatars have disappeared against everybody’s name and my broadband connection keeps dropping out?! Anyone else having problems?

  171. I’ve posted Craig’s link to Stop the War Coalition but it’s not there. Anybody know why?

  172. I have been having a conversation on CIF about Guardian censorship reference this article. So far my posts haven’t been deleted, but one other person who made a sarky comment about Israel has.
    .

    I posted a link and a brief precis of the article:
    .
    Orthus and others.

    Not my comment but a number of bloggers who post on Craig Murray’s site have had posts deleted from CIF today which drew atttention to an article Craig posted today, link above.

    The article is about 6 meetings attended by Liam Fox, Adam Werritty and Matthew Gould, British Ambassador to Israel.

    Craig is an ex British Ambassador to Uzbekistan himself and well-connected. These meetings were mostly not mentioned in Gus O Donnell’s report on the Werritty affair, they were not minuted, and the FCO have not denied they took place but have refused to answer questions about them.

    Murray says: ‘My source says that co-ordinating with Israel and the US on diplomatic preparation for an attack on Iran was the subject of all these meetings.’

    Murray wrote an article about all this (now available on his website) which a number of national newspapers refused to print.

    The posts on the Guardian which were deleted were all referring to these events, although I did not read them myself.

    Thanks for your interest.

  173. @Mary “The Avatars have disappeared against everybody’s name and my broadband connection keeps dropping out?! Anyone else having problems?”
    .
    No Mary, works fine for me.

  174. Hello John Goss, there’s more, the Goverment chose the day of the two Murdochs question time to release their 7/7 London Bomb findings…a day when no one would report it because ALL eyes were on father and son Murdoch.

    Also worrying the article along side that this chap has proof 7/7 was an inside job .I am trying to keep track of him but it’s not easy MP Green Jenny Jones no help whatsoever ! Of course they are trying to make out he is a nutcase but I have read far too much to know that Blair was involved in 7/7 and he made damn sure he was out of the country that day.

    http://themurdochempireanditsnestofvipers.blogspot.com/2011/07/hackgate-goverment-chooses-today-to.html

  175. horrid zionists ready to imperil the whole world for their land-grab and play for regional superpower status – using the blood and treasure of the USA and Britain … jews have been around nearly 6000 years as a culture but zionism only 100+ and it is clearly a poison – a poison spewed by the parasite that is zionist political structure … it is time America and Britain wake up to the real threat and peel the zionists’ fingers from our respective levers of power and stop them from putting the whole world at risk – factual evidence such as Amb. Murray supplies is essential to this end

  176. John Goss

    Stop the War – no, I’ve been trying too. Maybe the comrade trots need a central committee decision?

  177. Like many others, I suspect, I’ve put it on Facebook.
    .
    Mary, ‘Abu Issa’ – ‘Father of Jesus’. Can you imagine, if your name was that and when asked at the local library, “What’s your name, sir?” and you replied, “Father of Jesus”, they’d think you were a loony! Brilliant. I love such conjunctions.
    .

  178. Jeff Softley

    14 Nov, 2011 - 9:33 pm

    … to clarify, lest my words be twisted in the above post: I absolutely support the right of jews to live in peace, security and to survive and thrive … it is the hideous militarist movement that is zionism which is the problem … and I would echo what I read an Arab writer say on Mondoweiss, “you have to be a good neighbor to have good neighbors,” and by my evaluation israel and zionists want no neighbors with which to share, but subject populations to control

  179. MPs’ expenses: Tory claims £57,000 to rent flat from own company An outstanding alderman like Mr. Binley can lay claim to all sorts of matters.
    ,
    Thousands of Iranians turning up to ask Clinton to de-terror the weird Marxist sect with a track record of aiding and abetting Saddam during his reign of terror wreaked upon Kurdish regions of Iraq. That is in addition killing many thousands of Iranians in terror attacks, not forgetting MEK/PMOI fight against Iranians, and alongside with the Iraqi troops during the eight years war of Iraq, Iran.
    ,
    Reverting to type; the pontifications of a Pooh-bah masquerading as a self appointed spokesperson, whilst busy selling snake oil.

  180. http://govermentterrorism.blogspot.com/2011/11/uk-goverment-are-source-of-terror.html

    Tony Farrell. Craig might be worth having a chat with him knowing the war monger Murdoch and his reaction, Tony may be worth listening to.

  181. Mary, I have same problems, dropped out three times in five minutes.

  182. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWWHtC1CIi0

    The Twin Towers were ‘ Blown Up’ said Cameron. Read the comment that goes with the U Tube…his words never reported again..a Cameron slip up ?

  183. Rocki

    That’s enough links on 7/7 and 9/11 thanks.

  184. Those with drop out problems, first of all make sure you delete your cookies. If you are using win microsoft restart you machine, the nasty vermin hanging around this site may be up to their usual tricks. Also make sure your firewall is up and running. Further, try and check your connection speed going to this site, it is self explanatory.
    ,
    ,
    ,
    Ingo,
    taking a snap shot of your screen is easy, for win platforms go to the screen you want to save, then press “prt sc” you will find the button on the left hand side of your keyboard. Then go and open a “paint” session, ie paint program in the accessories, once there right click on your mouse, and find copy, then save the image as a .JPG, good luck mate.

  185. Dropouts – log off, disconnect from ISP, reconnect, log back on. It may just be a traffic problem, and this sometimes sorts it. Also, with most ISP’s it will give you a new DNS, so if someone is pissing about, they’ll lose you.

  186. Sorry for not completing the name.

  187. hello craig

    well done for standing up and being counted. the article lacks bells and whistles and is probably too nuanced for the street prestitutes and their lowest common denominator pitch. i also think we are well into a `bread and circuses` era, the matthew werrity gould story has already been and gone, there is always a fresh sensation for the media to distract the public with. it will only become newsworthy when we see footage from the attack. i for one dont want to see a war with iran, war begats war always has done, war for peace is just newspeak. why does iran want the bomb,? – so they get taken seriously on the world stage and entities like the usa and nato cant just coerce them e.g pakistan. you and your readers must keep up the pressure to disseminate this story, and keep digging, they have been careful to ensure there are no recordings/record of what was said, so as to be able to poo-poo any challenge as mere speculation, these people mean business and their business is mean.

  188. PPS I am getting senile, Ingo it is paste not copy ie after you press the right key on your mouse, then find paste and paste it to “the paint”.
    ,
    They are working me too hard these days.

  189. It’s “alt” and “Print screen” together, isn’t it, Fed? Then open and right click on Paint and “paste” -it’s already on the clipboard.
    What do I know….mine’s open source :)

  190. Dick the Prick

    14 Nov, 2011 - 9:56 pm

    Cheers Craig. Strange but i’m not even slightly shocked anymore. Ho hum.

  191. Craig, I have just sent you a pm – N.b. media owner does not want details to be made public.

  192. Just got his You Tube speech cleared of all comments but not all are down yet.. Tel Aviv must be swarming with kittens right now!!!

  193. Or…PrtSC, then open up a word document and press Shift, Ins. Use the ‘crop’ tool to pare down the screen shot to the area you want.

  194. Lizard, ie Komodo
    I am beginning to like your specious, and you are right mate. It is too late and I am tired, doing five tasks concurrently and not getting any accomplished, but hey that is in line with the theory of incompleteness (total misinterpretation).
    ,
    Ingo,
    Make that “alt” the button on the bottom right hand-side of your keyboard, concurrently pressed with “prt sc” or “prt scrn”.

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