Rebekah Brooks

by craig on June 30, 2014 11:43 am in Uncategorized

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Spot the Cuckold Competition

A jury has been unable to find that, beyond a reasonable doubt. Rebekah Brooks was a party to the industrial scale phone hacking that was going on all around her. A 5 million pound legal team did its job. Such things happen.

But take a considered view of what that means. While she was Editor, and while she was Chief Executive, numerous people who reported directly to her were engaged in an active criminal conspiracy, the results of which she was seeing almost every single day, and to which hundreds of thousands of pounds of company money were diverted without her noticing. The leader of the criminal conspiracy, Coulson, not only reported directly to her, but she was shagging him too. She still noticed nothing.

If we accept that as true – and the jury did – it makes her one of the most incompetent managers and company executives in corporate history. Her negligence and complete lack of grip, over years, on what those immediately beneath her were doing, wiped off billions in shareholder value and lost a major commercial asset in the News of the World title. It also tarnished the company’s image irredeemably. On top of which she was given to shagging people for whom she had line management responsibility – if she were a man the feminists would be screaming from the rooftops about that.

In a rational world she would never be employed in any position of responsibility again. If Murdoch really did not know about the phone hacking, if he were genuinely disgraced and sorry, he would be furious at her for her gross negligence. Instead he has given her 10.8 million pounds.

Outwith the gilded circle of the stinking rich Brooks would never work again, having destroyed the News of the World and the image of News International. But the gilded circle will close around her.

The ultra-rich are not like you or me. They are treated by totally different standards. They also behave differently. They have no problem with being cuckolded. Charlie Brooks sent his best wishes to Coulson in jail. If I were Brooks, I would be sending money in to pay very large men to help him find the soap in the shower. Although presumably like Aitken and Archer, Coulson is going to one of those jails for posh people where you can play golf and go home at the weekend. I never understood Brigadier Parker Bowles either, though apparently his wife’s shagging was good for his military career. Funny people, toffs.

Being a right slapper seems not to have harmed Brooks’ career (feminists please note, I here apply the term slapper purely in the technical sense that she gave Ross Kemp a good slapping). That particular asset of hers has faded fast. But I think we can be quite certain that her future will be very different from that of anyone outside the top 1% of earners who had totally failed in their employment. It rather removes the argument that the disgusting wealth gap in the country relates to achievement and risk.

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79 Comments

  1. Herbie

    That depends whether you believe it had stopped.

  2. This seems quite true. Like the world of Jilly Cooper’s novel called “Riders”. The Country House set is just as influential as it was in
    the 1920s and Rebekah is one of those women willing to lead society
    backwards to feudalism.

  3. Mods – the post is defaulting on italics?

    [Mod: Fixed now]

  4. Sean Hoare indicated that Rebekah Brooks had lied about not knowing about all the hacking for which he had to go to the greatest lengths to pull off, and when he finally became a credible witness, he was apparently murdered.

  5. “That depends whether you believe it had stopped.”

    Perhaps best to stick to what’s been admitted?

  6. Ba'al Zevul (Chimp Assassin)

    30 Jun, 2014 - 12:23 pm

    A wider net is needed. Why stop at Brooks? Bankers, politicians and media execs are all lavishly rewarded for failure. A P45 would be too, too humiliating.

  7. “A wider net is needed. Why stop at Brooks? Bankers, politicians and media execs are all lavishly rewarded for failure. A P45 would be too, too humiliating.”

    And I was under the impression I had been blogging about all that these last eight years.

  8. “presumably like Aitken and Archer, Coulson is going to one of those jails for posh people where you can play golf and go home at the weekend”

    Open prisons, with more relaxed regimes, are indeed a feature of our prison system. You don’t however need to be posh to go to one. They are reserved for non-violent, low-risk prisoners of any background. They are generally considered a humane and positive feature of the prison system. Do you disagree?

  9. “It rather removes the argument that the disgusting wealth gap in the country relates to achievement and risk.”

    Removes? You hadn’t noticed before? Blimey. The Queen? The rentier class? ,,,

  10. Seems corrupt police have been lost in the mix after all these years.

  11. One of the favourite arguments of those who wish to moan about Iraq say, or Libya, is to demonstrate that both are now a mess and therefore the US was incompetent in terms of its objectives.

    That’s actually the official critique.

    But that’s only true if you accept their objectives as publicly outlined, or publicly assumed.

    I’d say that Murdoch has realised his objectives, over many many years.

  12. Hair of flame and neck of brass! What a girl!

    I did not know the estimable Mr Laidlaw QC was the back up.

    In defence of Rebekah Brooks – a British lawyer cripples the prosecution case
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/06/25/uk-britain-hacking-defence-idUKKBN0F02I720140625

    http://www.2harecourt.com/barristers/jonathan-laidlaw-qc/

  13. Craig, I liked the post until the penultimate paragraph. I completely agree with you on the issue of her dangerous incompetence and the existance of a gilded cage. However, why drag in the issue of her affair and indeed that of Charles and Camilla? To be honest the list of things I find abhorrent about Brooks and the whole News International outfit is a long one but the fact she was carrying on with Coulson doesn’t feature. Admittedly, ‘toffs’ are more relaxed about bedhopping but then that is one of their more enlightened attitudes towards societal norms. As a a man who has admitted to playing offside I didn’t expect you to take the moral highground.

  14. Ba'al Zevul (Chimp Assassin)

    30 Jun, 2014 - 12:45 pm

    And I was under the impression I had been blogging about all that these last eight years.

    Among much else, yes. Kudos, if you wish.

    Think it’s time to treat the disease, not symptoms like Rebekah – who was arguably performing very well by Murdoch’s criteria, indeed. And will still be very employable for that reason. I think you have the wrong target for the argument you seem to be making.

  15. “As a a man who has admitted to playing offside” – and been crucified by the media for it. The super rich just don’t have different sexual morals, they are given a much easier ride for it by the tabloids than ordinary mortals. Can you imagine how Rebekah Brooks’ own tabloids would have covered her sex life if someone else had led it (if you see my meaning – sorry, a convoluted thought).

  16. BLiar/Brooks
    Cameron/Brooks

    Must we not speak their names in connection with the temptress?

  17. Anyway, I’d always thought this was enough:

    “Rebekah Brooks admits to paying police”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1AJjnl2y8U

    And yes, a little bit incompetent in admitting to it. Almost seems as if she’d never read that book they’re all supposed to read on Journalism and the Law.

  18. Ba'al Zevul (Chimp Assassin)

    30 Jun, 2014 - 1:02 pm

    Can you imagine how Rebekah Brooks’ own tabloids would have covered her sex life if someone else had led it?

    Yes, with enormous appreciation and theoretical Schadenfreude. But do you imagine it would have damaged her? It all came out at the trial and THAT doesn’t seem to have put her down. She’s a tough and self-assertive cookie, and uses her sexuality in her job – look at her hypnosis of Blair, for instance –

    http://www.newsbiscuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/350-blair-brooks.jpg

    Wow. Er. Mmm. It’s just like invading Iraq meeting you, Rebekah…

    Fact seems to be to me, sexual morality has pretty well bitten the dust generally. Screwing around isn’t a dealbreaker unless you are in a sensitive trade, like Catholic bishop. For journalists, since the move to Wapping and the huge influx of little girl scribes from media colleges, sex may have taken the place of drink – problems with which were formerly a given for hacks. And, pace you, this is not restricted to wealthy cliques of greedy bastards – it’s general. Monkey has seen, and monkey is doing.

  19. There is a retrial for Coulson and Goodman.

    PM’s Former Spin Doctor To Face Retrial
    Andy Coulson and Clive Goodman are to face a retrial on allegations they conspired to buy Royal phone directories from police.

  20. One of the charges was:

    “to cause misconduct in public office by conspiring to pay public officials for stories.”

    “Rebekah Brooks admits to paying police”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1AJjnl2y8U

    Of course one of the arguments put for her victory is that she had teams of highly paid QCs, whilst the poor old CPS could only muster two paralegals and a sausage sandwich.

    But I’d say that even a dead sausage sandwich couldn’t miss the above relationship between charge and admission.

    Remember, these parliamentary committees have legal standing.

  21. That expression of Blair’s looks a little camp.

  22. Craig – I understand what you are getting at. I agree that the papers controlled by Brooks would have made a song and dance if any other editor had admitted to banging their deputy. I am not sure I agree with you about the super rich being given an easy ride, the red tops love to splash their lives all across the front pages too, Max Mosley is one example, but there are certainly those who are protected from public ridicule.

    Mary – you can talk about whoever you like in connection with the ‘temptress’ but without any proof it is just juvenile conjecture.

  23. So the Met was conducting a separate investigation into the involvement of News Corp, especially Murdoch and Lee Hinton, by the spring of 2012 into the hacking and payment of police, thanks to evidence from some insider (Sean Hoare?), and when it really heated up, he was murdered?

    Really getting interesting.

  24. While she was Editor, and while she was Chief Executive, numerous people who reported directly to her were engaged in an active criminal conspiracy…

    Was this actually established by her trial? Provably on 12 occasions a small number of people (maybe only a handful) were involved in illegal activity.

  25. Do you work for Murdoch Mick?

  26. Ba'al Zevul (Chimp Assassin)

    30 Jun, 2014 - 2:46 pm

    From the vaults:
    The continuing hubris of the News International lot is really quite astonishing. These people do not seem to have realised they no longer have the world in their pocket.

    ( http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/07/rebekah-still-doesnt-get-it/ )

    Aaah, but I was so much older then,
    I’m younger than that now….
    (Bob Dylan)

  27. nevermind, viva beautiful football

    30 Jun, 2014 - 2:50 pm

    Thanks for that Craig, she is no Bodica but a woman who knows what made Kurtisans famous.
    The old Norfolk capers about the two bedhoppers enjoying each others company whilst Diana was with child are such an old hat.

    “I were Brooks, I would be sending money in to pay very large men to help him find the soap in the shower. ”

    How gracious, all that pleasure at once, it might have the opposite effect to what you have wished, you never know with these toffs. Aint that right Miranda?

  28. Breaking news Harris guilty of indecent assaults
    Veteran entertainer Rolf Harris has been found guilty of 12 charges of indecent assault against four girls.

  29. http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/07/rebekah-still-doesnt-get-it/

    There was a brilliant commentary on that thread by Jonangus Mackay on the committee hearing when the old lizard was hit with a shaving foam pie and Nurse Wendi sprung to his defence. She was complimented for her actions by Whittingdale. Shame she deserted the old lizard because she found BLiar’s legs and rear view more alluring, allegedly!.

    Salacious stuff. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2552140/Sexy-legs-piercing-blue-eyes-Wendi-Dengs-explosive-note-Tony-Blair-revealed-magazine-marriage-Rupert-Murdoch-collapsed-amid-rumours-crush-former-prime-minister.html

    Where is Jonangus now?

  30. Salacious stuff indeed, Mary!

    I have to disagree about the picture of Blair and Rebekah though, Herbie. He definitely looks like he has the hots for her.

    How does Cherie put up with it all?

  31. BBC News. Shock. Horror. Another of their icons has come to meet justice. They have even had St Esther of Rantzen on to pontificate. It is said that everyone knew about Savile’s depravity. Did everyone know about Harris? Apparently his nickname within the BBC was The Octopus. It would seem that the celebrity has more worth to the BBC brand than to the abused children/young persons.

  32. CPS prosecutor Andrew Edis’ statements about the hacking scandal are simply scandalous – i. e. blaming it completely upon Coulson and his assistants, and proclaiming that the truth about it all will never be known.

    Much more likely with prosecutors like him.

  33. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Jun, 2014 - 4:55 pm

    Mary

    “BLiar/Brooks
    Cameron/Brooks

    Must we not speak their names in connection with the temptress?”
    ____________________

    Is this your gutless way of hinting at sexual relations between Blair/Cameron and Brooks?

    **********************

    Support the Separation Wall, you know it makes sense.

  34. Who cares. Let London’s media rot in its own filth.

  35. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Jun, 2014 - 5:00 pm

    From Mick

    “Mary – you can talk about whoever you like in connection with the ‘temptress’ but without any proof it is just juvenile conjecture”

    which elicited the following reply from Mary

    “Do you work for Murdoch Mick?”

    Which, I submit, proves Mick’s point about juvenile.

  36. The opposite of juvenile. Penetrating I would say. Enough to elicit a rejoinder from the premier troll on here anyway.

    You don’t represent the Old Lizard do you?

  37. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Jun, 2014 - 5:45 pm

    From Mary to me (on a previous thread):

    “Habbakuk. Stop cluttering up this blog. It does not belong to you.”

    ____________________

    From Mary : 9 comments out of 35 on this thread.

    And 4 out of 15 on the next one (“BBC-bias”)

    Pot/kettel; Beam/mote ?

    *************************

  38. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Jun, 2014 - 5:55 pm

    Mary

    “The opposite of juvenile. Penetrating I would say. Enough to elicit a rejoinder from the premier troll on here anyway.”
    _________________

    You’ve obviously slipped your lead again!

    BTW, it’s funny to see a Bitch mentioning penetration :)

  39. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Jun, 2014 - 6:14 pm

    Craig

    Up to now I’ve maintained (and on occasion written here) that you are not to be held responsible for the kind of people attracted to this blog, whether the obviously unhinged (Trowbridge types), the Useful Idiots (Mr Goss, Herbie, Jives..) or the slyly malicious and gutless innuendo -mongers and purveyors of the irrelevant. In other words, I thought you were a decent sort of chap.

    After reading parts of your post here – cuckold, slappers, shagging – I’m beginning to wonder if I wasn’t mistaken.

    Some exaggerated language for polemical effect is fine but your grubbing around in the sexual relationships of the people concerned in this case disappoints me.

  40. “your grubbing around in the sexual relationships of the people concerned in this case disappoints me”.

    Have you ever seen the News of the World? Coulson and Brooks made a very fat living out of doing precisely what you accuse me of – and often got the dirt by illegal means. That is the point – he who lives by the sword, etc.

    If you ever see me do this to anybody of whom that is not true, your disdain would be merited.

  41. It purrs:

    Up to now, blah blah blah, I thought, blah blah

    After reading, blah blah blah

    Blah, disappoints me, blah blah.

    Here’s your coat. There’s the door.

    Bye.

    ==================================

    Peacewisher

    “I have to disagree about the picture of Blair and Rebekah though, Herbie. He definitely looks like he has the hots for her.”

    Yeah but, in a fag hag kinda way.

    There’s definitely an erotic tension to be sure, but I get the distinct impression her smile and dominant hand gesture betray a domme attitude to sub.

    Quite a revealing moment really.

  42. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Jun, 2014 - 7:22 pm

    Craig

    I stand by “disappointed”. I’m perfectly aware that the redtops made/make a fat living out of that sort of stuff, but the point is precisely that you are not the editor of a redtop and I expected better from you. As for the “living by the sword” argument, that is very close to the Useful Idiots on here defending Russia’s every action by saying “oh, but the West/USA do the same or worse”.

    It should be possible to deplore what Coulson, Brooks and comapny got up to in their professional lives without adding their personal sexual affairs to the charge sheet.

  43. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Jun, 2014 - 7:28 pm

    You can see examples of the sort of unhealthy tosh to which posts like that can give rise:

    “BLiar/Brooks
    Cameron/Brooks

    Must we not speak their names in connection with the temptress?” (from Mary)

    and

    “Yeah but, in a fag hag kinda way.

    There’s definitely an erotic tension to be sure, but I get the distinct impression her smile and dominant hand gesture betray a domme attitude to sub.” (from Dr Herbie).

    As I said, unhealthy stuff from strange minds.

  44. I defend Russia because it’s currently the only block on the Beltway lunatics who want the whole planet to submit to its will.

    Perhaps when you’re older you’ll come to understand that.

    I have to say though that your pubescent prudishness in the matter of human relations indicates you’ve a fair bit yet to travel onto adulthood.

    Henceforth shall ye be known as Babbie Habby.

  45. Cameron. Brooks. Horse riding. 150 intimate texts and messages exchanged. What Cameron thought LOL meant. etc etc

    David Cameron put on the spot by cosy texts to Rebekah Brooks
    Messages about horse riding and conference speech from cache of texts and emails handed over to Leveson inquiry
    http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/nov/04/david-cameron-texts-rebekah-brooks

    ~~

    BLiar is considered to be a psychopath.

    ‘At heart, Hare’s test is simple: a list of 20 criteria, each given a score of 0 (if it doesn’t apply to the person), 1 (if it partially applies) or 2 (if it fully applies). The list in full is: glibness and superficial charm, grandiose sense of self-worth, pathological lying, cunning/manipulative, lack of remorse, emotional shallowness, callousness and lack of empathy, unwillingness to accept responsibility for actions, a tendency to boredom, a parasitic lifestyle, a lack of realistic long-term goals, impulsivity, irresponsibility, lack of behavioural control, behavioural problems in early life, juvenile delinquency, criminal versatility, a history of “revocation of conditional release” (ie broken parole), multiple marriages, and promiscuous sexual behaviour. A pure, prototypical psychopath would score 40. A score of 30 or more qualifies for a diagnosis of psychopathy. Hare says: “A friend of mine, a psychiatrist, once said: ‘Bob, when I meet someone who scores 35 or 36, I know these people really are different.’ The ones we consider to be alien are the ones at the upper end.” ‘

    Psychopaths: how can you spot one?
    We think of psychopaths as killers, alien, outside society. But, says the scientist who has spent his life studying them, you could have one for a colleague, a friend – or a spouse
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/10737827/Psychopaths-how-can-you-spot-one.html

  46. Hab

    But since you called another commenter a “bitch”, you appear somewhat hypocritical yourself.

  47. Iona Craig is a remarkable young woman. She was previously a jump jockey but packed it in, went to City University and got a degree and learnt Arabic part time at the University of Westminster. Then she entered into journalism. She must have a deal of drive and determination and also be very brave considering the risks to her life currently in Yemen.

    http://ionacraig.tumblr.com/about

  48. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    30 Jun, 2014 - 9:19 pm

    Craig

    “Hab

    But since you called another commenter a “bitch”, you appear somewhat hypocritical yourself.”
    ______________________

    No, not hypocritical, just eye for an eye in best Old Testament style. I’ve explained at least 5 times that I call Mary a bitch in exactly the same spirit in which she calls me a troll. Both words are unpleasant and should be unnecessary.
    My hope is that Mary will cease calling me and others with whose opinions she disagrees trolls, whereupon I shall immediately cease referring to her as a bitch.
    Hope that clarifies.

  49. Resident Dissident

    30 Jun, 2014 - 9:59 pm

    Interesting how Mary links in Blair to the Hare’s test for psychopaths although there is no link whatsoever in the Telegraph article – so I think that is a 2 for cunning/manipulative.

  50. “It rather removes the argument that the disgusting wealth gap in the country relates to achievement and risk.”

    Well, yes, but who took that argument seriously anyway? Even if true, it wouldn’t justify the size of the wealth gap. After all, the most brilliant person on the planet isn’t 1,000 or more times more valuable than the least so. To paraphrase Peter Hitchens on his blog a week or two ago, “The people in control really are as dim* as you think. There is no secret room somewhere filled with clever people who know what they’re doing”. They’re just “connected”, that’s all. Isn’t that why they shut down the grammar and technical schools, so that they wouldn’t have to compete with bright people who’s life-chances had been developed and whose horizons had been broadened at the tax-payers expense? Egalitarianism had nothing to do with it. If it had, they wouldn’t buy their way out of the system they have designed for the rest of us.

    * To ‘dim’ you can add venal, corrupt and parasitic.

  51. Well, she had super expensive lawyers, a charming manner in court, and the evidence was apparently circumstantial. So, the jury had ‘reasonable doubt’ as to her guilt, apparently. Here we are supposed to accept the wisdom of the court and the honesty of the jury. Well, I can accept the latter, less convinced about the former. It all looks very suss indeed. She’ll have a column in The Gurdian, next!

    I wonder what m’lud said about the mass deletion of emails, what exactly was the direction given here. I know for a fact that, in my old job, emails were NOT deleted, ever. Maybe it’s different at RupyCorp. Maybe the emails of the 1% are exempted from the law, who knows?

    Rebecca of course is now wandering about as though vindicated. She has not been vindicated in the slightest, to my eyes. She has been found not guilty due to reasonable doubt, all with the aid of a super-expensive legal team. This does not meet my definitition of vindicated at all, though doubtless some Guardian writers will soon leap to her defence, pathetically.

  52. All correct, I’m sure, but it rather plays into the media spin that Leveson was all about phone hacking and invasion of privacy. So, once a few scapegoats have been hung out to dry and the criminal law is shown to be capable of doing that, the rest of the media / political game can go back to business as usual.

    Whereas the most shocking thing to come from Leveson should not have been phone hacking but the connection between media business interests and government control that allows media owners and politicians to trade regulatory favors for positive news in a way that’s just about beyond the law. The most blatant example I saw from Leveson were emails detailing dinner meetings with Alex Salmond from Murdoch’s “Government Relations” team that specifically record the connection between Salmond lobbying for Murdoch’s business interests and the Scottish Sun’s editorial support. Huge breach of public trust on both sides but no chance of criminal prosecution.

    The suspicion is that such trading is systemic, it crosses party lines, it is still going on, it is intimately tied to the current political and regulatory environment, and it is not being addressed by current criminal law. That makes it a much more difficult thing to deal with than a bunch of hacks and PIs illegally accessing voice mails from people who didn’t change the factory security codes when they bought new phones. And much more reason for the powers-that-be to want to sweep the issue under the carpet. Cameron may put out some fake apology for lack of judgment in appointing Coulson the criminal to his team but that’s not the point. The point is that he was appointing Murdoch’s man to his team and cementing those corrupt ties between media and government.

    All this sleezy sex stuff with Brooks is actually playing into the media’s hands. It’s what they want. It’s smoke and mirrors. Look over here and get excited / offended (it really doesn’t matter which) by these tits so you don’t notice that we continue to quietly stitch up the whole game over there. And who’s left to report that?

  53. R2D2 The Telegraph link contained a concise definition of the characteristics of a psychopath including a propensity for promiscuous sexual behaviour. That had been the subject under discussion if you recall. Stop trolling.

  54. What significance and relevance to the trial was Brooks’ extensive and tragic account of her infertility and the help of a surrogate cousin to give her a child? To garner sympathy? Why else reveal such personal information?

    ‘The trial has had significant personal costs for someone who regards herself as fiercely private. Intimate details of her life – from struggles with infertility to her one-time affair with co-defendant Andy Coulson – have been splashed across the front pages in the seven-month trial. Her mother, a Cheshire dairy farmer, was called to testify in court.’

    Hacking trial: A woman at the centre of the UK establishment
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0eadcd7c-ec23-11e3-ab1b-00144feabdc0.html

  55. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    1 Jul, 2014 - 7:58 am

    Herbie

    “I have to say though that your pubescent prudishness in the matter of human relations indicates you’ve a fair bit yet to travel onto adulthood.”
    ____________________

    If that means that I don’t like the sight of middle-aged or older ‘gentlemen’ like you walking around with their flies wide open and their tongues hanging out then you’re probably right.

    Metaphorically speaking.

  56. CharlieAngel

    1 Jul, 2014 - 11:10 am

    “If I were Brooks, I would be sending money in to pay very large men to help him find the soap in the shower.”

    Funny world we live in. Michael Fabricant tweets about violence to Yasmin Alibhai Brown and the whole world goes mad.

    Craig Murray suggests that a man should be gang raped and I guess for some people it’s just a funny comment. Alas, after working with various men over the years who have been raped, forgive me if I fail to get the joke….

  57. Ba'al Zevul (Chimp Assassin)

    1 Jul, 2014 - 12:07 pm

    How does Cherie put up with it all?

    Looking at Tony’s travel record, she has plenty of time to make her own arrangements, and several nice houses to make them in. I doubt she’s complaining.

  58. “The ultra-rich are not like you or me. They are treated by totally different standards.” Lucky so-and-sos :)

    Actually I think it better to be grateful and content at what wealth we have, e.g. at *not* being North Koreans, Palestinians, Rohingya, or (if this applies) free from any number of other sufferings of life.

    And I haven’t begun to mention the positives..

  59. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    1 Jul, 2014 - 5:05 pm

    When juries acquit someone the Eminences and Useful Idiots disapprove of, that’s bad.

    When juries find guilty someone the Eminences and Useful Idiots disapprove of, that’s good.

    Funny, that.

  60. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    1 Jul, 2014 - 5:09 pm

    “How does Cherie put up with it all?

    Looking at Tony’s travel record, she has plenty of time to make her own arrangements, and several nice houses to make them in. I doubt she’s complaining.”
    ______________________

    Do you have it off occasionally, Ba’al, or have you sacrificed it on the altar of your blogging?

  61. Interesting how the affair was discovered-from a never sent draft email,I am surprised this could be used in evidence,and that it was quoted from in all newspapers and tv.
    Surely draft emails cant be used as evidence?
    What next? …. Thought police I suppose.

  62. The jury didn’t accept it as true that she knew nothing and wasn’t involved. They just accepted it as a possibility which might be true. On that basis, they had to acquit. The defence didn’t have to prove anything. Personally I expected no convictions at all.

  63. Tin Ireland made this clever cartoon when BLiar stepped down. Highly imaginative with so many references you have to watch it over again to get them all. I liked Murdoch as the puppeteer.

    Goodbye Tony Blair
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9_yv1m9jN8&feature=youtu.be

    Tim Ireland produced this blog for Craig AFAIK.

  64. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    1 Jul, 2014 - 8:17 pm

    N_

    “The jury didn’t accept it as true that she knew nothing and wasn’t involved. They just accepted it as a possibility which might be true. On that basis, they had to acquit”
    _____________________

    Do you have a special telepathic channel into the jury’s mind or is the above just guesswork, N_ ?

    If the latter, you might advance your idea in slightly more modest fashion?

  65. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    1 Jul, 2014 - 8:18 pm

    “Tim Ireland produced this blog for Craig AFAIK.”
    ________________

    Mary creeping again.

    Throw her a bone, someone.

  66. Why is a PR firm (a very expensive one by all accounts) needed when a celebrity is on trial?

    ‘Bell Pottinger, the PR firm hired to represent Harris during his trial, could not confirm whether the 84-year-old had the painting in his possession.’

    Who, what, why: What happened to Rolf Harris’s portrait of the Queen?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28105318

    Bell Pottinger lobby for Bahrain too. Nice.

    Tory fundraising party: Bahrain lobbyist sat with defence secretary
    Almost 20 lobbyists and PR specialists attended 2013 summer party, including Earl of Clanwilliam who represents Bahrain government
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jul/01/tory-fundraising-party-bahrain-defence-secretary

    What a rotten lot we have in power over our lives.

  67. Habbakuk trolling again.

  68. With respect, we do not know if the jury believed her.

    We do know that they considered the charges were not proven beyond reasonable doubt.

    The two things are entirely different; after all both sides may have been disbelieved.

  69. Geoffrey 5:27 pm – “Surely draft emails cant be used as evidence? What next? …. Thought police I suppose.”

    Computer Forensics these days. Certainly draft emails can be extracted from your computer, often even after they’ve been deleted. Much else besides. With proof of exactly when they were created. And not only computers but phones and other mobile devices as well. This stuff gives pretty conclusive evidence of what somebody was thinking and doing over a period of time. Definitely thought police. There are moves to provide this technology to police stations so that everybody who gets arrested then has the data extracted from any mobile device they are carrying. Arrested, that is, not necessarily convicted of anything. So police can search your phone records for known criminal matches, your cell site records for movement correlations with known criminals, your emails and draft emails for red-flag words and phrases, your internet search history for suspicious interests. You don’t have to be afraid if you’re not doing anything wrong, right?

  70. Excellent – not an editorial that you would see in one of Britain’s newspapers.

  71. Thanks DavidH,for the explanation.
    I am still surprised that every newspaper,tv channel lovingly repeated the private unsent,deleted emails of Rebecca Brooks and this appears to have been the prosecutions main evidence?
    I could just about understand it if the police,having seen the draft,asked her if there was any truth to it,but to then publicise it seems worrying.

  72. I quite agree that it is eyebrow-raising to think that Brooks knew nothing. I haven’t followed the case in detail, but perhaps there will be analysis of it that asks more justified and awkward questions. I share the general distaste here for the special set of rules that seem to apply to the allies of the powerful.

    But:

    If I were Brooks, I would be sending money in to pay very large men to help him find the soap in the shower.

    No, no, no – there is no category of offence for which jokes about prison rape are necessary. This contributes to the a culture where male-on-male rape is seen as cartoonish and as a payback (on top of the prison sentence) for the seriousness of an inmate’s crimes as we perceive them. There is a campaign group in the U.S. that specifically works to reduce such sexual violence in prisons there, where I understand it is a particular problem.

    Yes, many of the establishment have dirtied our politics and cheapened our democracy. They’ve flogged our hospitals and our media and our systems of government. Most of this has been done in a process so far removed from fair it is hard to know what to call corrupt any more. But, where we find wrong-doing, let’s apply liberal principles that rely entirely on the law, even if that system is flawed, and let’s reject all inhumane devices of extrajudicial punishment.

  73. From Joe’s Garage by Frank Zappa;
    Keep it Greasy so it’ll Go Down Easy –
    “Oh no, here come that screamin’ sound again”:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmXMy4p5Mto

  74. The prosecuting counsel in the Brooks trial, despite poverty, drastic lack of resources compared to Laidlaw, circumstantial evidence etc. still had a lot of ammunition. He must have been remarkably inept in his presentation of it to the jury.

  75. Joan the Bone

    10 Jul, 2014 - 12:59 pm

    A 5 million pound legal team did its job. Such things happen.”

    Ask David Irving about that. His “crime” was to repudiate, via decades of research, the claim that Adolph Hitler ordered the extermination of Jews. I suspect the judge, in his Lipstadt trial, was influenced by Mr Cook’s performance here.

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