Gary McKinnon and Freedom 97

On 10 May I blogged:

Poor Gary McKinnon provides an important test. The Tories and Lib Dems have said they would halt his extradition under Blair’s vassal state one way extradition treaty with the USA. New Labour apparently remain determined to extradite him – and that means Miliband and Johnson in particular. That should be food for thought for anyone considering New Labour leaders touted as more acceptable to the Lib Dems,

I am delighted today that Teresa May has called in the McKinnon case for consideration – something New Labour refused to do. It does appear that Conservatives and Lib Dems are going to keep their promises and stop the McKinnon extradition.

This is great news. Even better news is that page 14 of the full coalition agreement promises to change Blair’s vassal state extradition treaty in the UK. It is well understood that this was a grossly unbalanced treaty, allowing for extradition of UK citizens to the US, but not of US citizens to the UK. It is less often mentioned that the treaty, enshrined into UK law by Order in Council, debars the UK courts from any consideration of the evidence or merits of the case. The only power the courts have is to check the correct form of the extradition request.

This treaty is the perfect embodiment of Blair’s policy; total subservience to the United States and the abdication of any idea of natural justice. Those commenters on this blog who refuse to accept that this government is an improvement on the hateful New Labour crowd, increasingly sound like nuts.

In presenting the coalition agreement today, Nick Clegg started by talking passionately about freedom in the UK. That is a word New Labour almost never mentioned, except in the context of abroad. And when they spoke of freedom abroad, it was code for we are about to invade you and kill hundreds of thousands of people.

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97 thoughts on “Gary McKinnon and Freedom

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  • Chris S

    If none of the information he allegedly found was true why would the Americans go after him so badly?

    I don’t think he is a nut job at all just an ordinary British citizen that deserves to be protected from the insanity of US ‘justice’.

    To those that have read and researched Anti gravity UFO’s and hidden technologies you will know what he allegedly found should be of great importance to the whole population not just the secretive agencies who work out of the public domain and don’t want us normal civilians to know anything we shouldn’t.

  • Clark

    Chris S,

    the US are trying to get McKinnon because he showed them up for corrupt fools. They’re making out he’s a great danger rather than admit that (1) they use an insecure operating system, Microsoft Windows, for critical applications, and (2) that they didn’t even bother to use strong passwords.

    I’m fascinated by physics, and questions like Fermi’s paradox. I don’t discount anti-gravity. But I’ve been looking for such an experiment as I could actually try for over a decade, and found nothing so far. If you have anything I can actually use, please tell me.

  • Clark


    the following is condensed from Norman Baker’s article in the Daily Mail. Is his account in his book significantly different? If not, why did you not mention it?


    After writing a newspaper article outlining my early concerns, I found myself on a train speeding towards Exeter to see a man who had agreed to meet me only on condition of anonymity and after some rather circuitous arrangements […] to minimise the chance that his contact with me could be traced. […] He told me that he had recently retired but had connections to both the police and the security services, a claim which I subsequently verified through careful checks.

    Like me, he had many doubts about the true circumstances surrounding Dr Kelly’s death and he had begun making his own surreptitious inquiries around Southmoor, the Oxfordshire village which was Dr Kelly’s home. Posing as a freelance journalist, he had attempted to contact the key policemen involved in investigating the case. In this he was unsuccessful but within an hour he received an unexpected return call. The person on the other end of the line did not bother with formalities, but instead cut to the quick. How would my contact welcome a full tax inspection of his business, VAT, national insurance, the lot? Life could be made very difficult, he was told. How did he fancy having no money?

    […] there he left matters until, at a wedding, he chanced upon an old friend whom he described to me initially as a very senior civil servant, but later as a “spook” from MI6. He told his friend of his interest in the Kelly affair and also of the threatening phone call he had received. His friend’s reply was a serious one: he should be careful, particularly when using his phone or his computer. Moreover, he should let the Kelly matter drop.

    But my contact did not do so. Two weeks later he met his friend again, this time in a pub, and pressed him on the matter. His friend took him outside, and […] told him Dr Kelly’s death had been “a wet operation, a wet disposal” [ie assassination]. He also warned him in very strong terms to leave the matter well alone. This time he decided to heed the warning. […]

    A few months later [… my contact…] told me that three weeks after our meeting in Exeter, his house had been broken into and his laptop – containing all his material on Kelly – had been stolen. Other valuable goods, including a camera and an LCD television, had been left untouched.

  • angrysoba

    Hi Clark,

    I think that episode does indeed appear in Norman Baker’s book.

    But what is anyone to make of this episode?

    Norman Baker met a guy who said he knows many people in the police and in the secret services. Er…okay!

    He says he heard it from someone else that it was a “wetjob”! Er…okay!

    He says he was robbed but no one took anything except all the incriminating evidence he had! Er….okay!

    Sounds like bullshit to me. Does it not sound like bullshit to you?

    I mean, maybe not on Norman Baker’s part. Maybe he believed everything this guy was saying.

    But really! By this point it was obviously common knowledge that David Kelly was dead and that many people had suspicions about it. Do you think it beyond belief that weirdos and freaks would be contacting Norman Baker to tell them what some bloke in a pub told them about Dr Kelly’s death?

    Obviously not. Norman Baker himself talks about some of the really obvious nutters who wrote letters to him (He does reproduce parts of their letters in his book).

    But anyway. Now Norman Baker is part of a coalition government so I am guessing he is in a far better place now to make his case. Shouldn’t we get scribbling to him to tell him to push this investigation along a bit? I might even write to him myself.

  • Clark


    no, it does not sound like bullshit to me. It sounds like it *may or may not* be true, unverifiable, unless this person is prepared to come forward.

    Now. Don’t you think it’s a scandal that governments use commercial software to store critical information? That a ‘trade secret’ (Microsoft’s source code) is permitted to take priority over national security? And that they choose this system despite its well known security flaws, when there are better, cheaper alternatives?

  • Clark

    Paul Johnston,

    thanks for that link. My guess is that it’s Microsoft who want McKinnon tried in the ‘states, as he’ll get less sympathetic treatment there.

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