Oops, Schillings Did It Again! 66


A couple of weeks ago, I posted in genuine admiration of Ryan Giggs. Now Schillings have set out to destory his reputation, and rook him of several hundred thousand pounds at the same time. Guido has a good graph:

Plainly Ryan Giggs internet skills are not great, or he could easilly have discovered that would happen.

Schillings did the same thing for Alisher Usmanov, Britain’s second richest man. Schillings had written to all UK mainstream media what is known as a “chilling” letter. It stated that the Uzbek billionaire Usmanov had been in jail in the Soviet Union as a political prisoner, and had been pardoned after President Gorbachev came to power, and that anyone who published anything different would be sued. Our useless mainstream media has still, to this day, not published anything different.

In the interest of veracity I posted what I knew from my time as British Ambassador in Uzbekistan. Usmanov was never a political prisoner. He was a gangster jailed for extortion. He had not been pardoned by Gorbachev. He was pardoned by the state of Uzbekistan, under his gangster friend President Karimov.

Schillings threatened repeatedly to sue me, but they never did, because they know it is true. They threatened to sue my then webhosts, who were so scared they pulled not only my site but many others on the same server. They particularly threatened many Arsenal fan blogs, as Usmanov was trying to take over the club at the time.

The result was that millions of people worldwide, who otherwise would never have heard of Usmanov, learnt he had a conviction for blackmail as the story went viral. I have been told for cetain that the internet furore directly impacted on the willingness of major Arsenal shareholders to sell to Usmanov. Schillings caused the failure of Usmanov’s bid to take over Arsenal. If they had allowed the truth about him to live quietly in a small corner of the internet, that would not have happened.

Even though Schillings never did sue, our power-serving mainstream media has still never mentioned the truth about Usmanov’s criminal past, even when he was last month announced as Brtian’s second richest man. That is why the freedom of new media is so important, and why Ryan Giggs is wrong.

But if you have enough money, you can with effort even influence new media. The Usmanov/Craig Murray affair used to feature prminently on the Wikipedia “Streisand Effect” page linked to above. It has been edited out – when and by whom? It has also disappeared from Usmanov’s own Wikipedia page. And recently on Arsenal blogs, there have been a rash of commenters calling for Usmanov to take over, often repeating the same long comment across several Arsenal blogs. That kind of money buys a lot of trolls.


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  • John K

    Back on topic, a hillarious piece in the Mail (I know, I know…) today ostensibly celebrating a well-known fooballer’s record-breaking 12th premiership medal but with some nice puns about his escapades.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1389950/Record-breaking-Ryan-Giggs-leads-family-celebrations-Man-United-wins-title.html

    I particularly enjoyed:

    “Explaining how he kept up his level of performance despite his advancing years, Giggs said: ‘Desire…”

    Childish, I know, but it does stick in the craw how politicians, sportsmen and media “celebrities” use the media when it works to their advantage but gag them when it doesn’t.

    And although I’m no fan of Salmond I did enjoy his interview on Today this morning.

  • mark_golding

    Craig said, “..our power-serving mainstream media has still never mentioned the truth about Usmanov’s criminal past, even when he was last month announced as Britain’s second richest man. That is why the freedom of new media is so important…”

    Recently NatWest, confirmed that it had frozen the British account of Press TV Limited an employer of British citizens.

    Later the independent regulator Ofcom ruled that George Galloway repeatedly breached broadcasting standards on impartiality during a series of Press TV programmes. Other presenters include pro-Palestinian campaigner Lauren Booth and ex London mayor Ken Livingstone both impressive and articulate speakers.

    http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/41633/galloway-corbyn-rapped-ofcom-press-tv-israel-programme

    Now it is speculated that Ofcom has upheld Iranian born Canadian journalist Maziar Bahari’s complaint of unfair treatment and unwarranted infringement of privacy in the making and broadcasting of a press conference where Bahari admitted to giving “false and biased” reports about the events that erupted in Iran after the re-election of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

    He went on to say, “Western media are an inseparable part of the capitalist machine of Western liberal democracies. A Western journalist who comes to Iran… is mainly concerned with the interests of the West, which are defined in relation to each issue at every period of time.”

    http://www.iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/249091

    I have therefore written a complaint to Ofcom detailed here:

    Dear Sirs,

    The Press TV news website is among the most active and prominent independent sources for coverage of developments on the recent uprisings in Middle Eastern and North African countries in particular, Bahrain and Yemen. The Iran-based website also provide extensive coverage of events in occupied Palestinian territories. Documents released in 2010 by Wikileaks whistleblower website revealed that Britain had concentrated its efforts on halting Press TV Ltd from producing programs critical of Western Imperialism. In an article entitled ‘The Secretive Campaign to Halt Press TV in the UK,’ British journalist and broadcaster Lauren Booth outlined UK’s efforts to support the United States in shutting down the company that markets documentaries and series to the Iranian channel with an identical name. Having failed to find any legitimate problem with the quality or content of the programs produced by Press TV Ltd, the UK’s National Westminster (NatWest) Bank froze Press TV Ltd’s business account without any prior notice in January and stated that the accounts would be permanently closed in end February 2011.

    Press TV has also been put off the air in several Western-backed regional states for covering the popular uprisings in the Middle East and North of Africa.

    Earlier in March, Bahrain interrupted the broadcast of Iran’s Arabic-language entertainment channel iFilm, following its violent crackdown on anti-government protests in the country.

    Press TV has gained popularity for its fair and in-depth coverage in the UK of the revolutions in Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen, Bahrain and citizen casualties in Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

    Freelance journalist Johnny Miller, who covered the uprising in Bahrain for Press TV, was detained, harassed and eventually deported from the country earlier last month for no specific reason. His equipment was also confiscated by the Bahraini authorities.

    In light of the recent attempt by the British government to use Ofcom regulations as a pretext to impose penalties on the Press TV news network and the independent London-based Press TV limited company, Children of Iraq Association (COIA) trustees have voted to instigate a Facebook and Twitter campaign to expose the activities of Ofcom in their pursuit of a case against Press TV for broadcasting an interview with a Newsweek journalist, Maziar Bahari. This case is considered an infringement of basic human rights in relation to freedom of speech. COIA consider this to be an attempt to restrict the broadcasting activities of PressTV in the UK. A representation to the Court of Human Rights is being considered with legal representatives.

    • craig Post author

      I don’t approve of attempts to force Press TV off air, but for the last couple of years I have avoided appearing on it because I really don’t approve of the government of Iran and I don’t believe Press TV has any independence.

  • mary

    What a plonker as Delboy would have said.

    I see that he is one quarter Sierra Leonean on his father Danny Wilson’s side. He was a Rugby player. ‘Giggs is said to have inherited his balance and athleticism from his father. Quite.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Giggs

    Still I pity him for the sums that Schillings will be taking from him.

  • mary

    He has been named in the HoC by an MP John Hemming LD. What nonsense but it diverts attention from the real issues, eg the ongoing wars and increasing poverty.

  • Paul Johnston

    “And recently on Arsenal blogs, there have been a rash of commenters calling for Usmanov to take over, often repeating the same long comment across several Arsenal blogs. That kind of money buys a lot of trolls.”
    This is not the kind of thing you have to buy. The Gooner fans don’t want Americans to buy their club and saddle it with debt a la Hicks and Gilette or the Glazers but want a very rich Sugar Daddy like Roman!

  • angrysoba

    Mark, with the greatest respect, that post of yours on Press TV is – frankly – loopy.
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    “the independent regulator Ofcom ruled that George Galloway repeatedly breached broadcasting standards on impartiality during a series of Press TV programmes.”
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    In what way can George Galloway be said to be remotely impartial? Do you have the Ofcom report itself?
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    “Ofcom has ruled that George Galloway repeatedly breached broadcasting standards on impartiality during a series of Press TV programmes on which he described Israel as “a terrorist gangster state” and a “miscreant, law breaking rogue, war launching, occupying state.” ”
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    “Now it is speculated that Ofcom has upheld Iranian born Canadian journalist Maziar Bahari’s complaint of unfair treatment and unwarranted infringement of privacy in the making and broadcasting of a press conference where Bahari admitted to giving “false and biased” reports about the events that erupted in Iran after the re-election of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.”
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    Could it be that Maziar Bahari thought that edits of him talking were being used manipulatively? It certainly wouldn’t surprise me. By the way, the idea that Maziar Bahari is “false and biased” is a charge of the Iranian government’s and that is why they locked him up and tortured him:
    http://www.newsweek.com/2009/11/21/118-days-12-hours-54-minutes.html
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    Mark, in your letter you say:
    “The Press TV news website is among the most active and prominent independent sources for coverage of developments on the recent uprisings in Middle Eastern and North African countries in particular, Bahrain and Yemen.”
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    Press TV is in no way an “independent source”. It is part of the Iranian regime’s propaganda arm. It is paid for by the Iranian state. How can that be called “independent”? While it would be useful to see greater coverage of Bahrain, among other places, have you scoured the site for any damning coverage of Syria’s ruthless and bloody crackdowns on protesters? Do you even know that hundreds of people are being killed there?
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    “In an article entitled ‘The Secretive Campaign to Halt Press TV in the UK,’ British journalist and broadcaster Lauren Booth outlined UK’s efforts to support the United States in shutting down the company that markets documentaries and series to the Iranian channel with an identical name.”
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    Why on Earth do you think that Lauren Booth’s article in favour of her employers is going to be “impartial”?
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    “This case is considered an infringement of basic human rights in relation to freedom of speech.”
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    By Lord Haw Haw and Tokyo Rose perhaps.

  • angrysoba

    On Maziar Bahari:
    “During the 2009 Iranian Election Protests he was arrested without charge, and detained on the morning of June 21.[7] He was coerced[8] into a televised confession acknowledging Western journalists as spies ”
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    Is this what you mean about Press TV, “broadcasting an interview with a Newsweek journalist, Maziar Bahari”.
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    But you complain about Press TV’s human rights being infringed??????
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    Keep peddling that bullshit!

  • mark_golding

    I also do not approve of attempts to force PressTV off air, especially by a Murdoch subservient who in a politically motivated article and without documented facts claimed that PressTV was unprofessional in its reporting.

    PressTV gave us admirable reporting on the student riots in Britain and civilian protests in Bahrain while reporting on civilian deaths in Syria albeit claiming foreign intervention by thugs intent on acerbating violence.

    We remember PressTV’s in-depth reporting of aid convoys to Gaza and Israeli war-ship intervention.

    PressTV *is* independent of main stream media and it is in that context I use the adjective.

    The British Foreign Office told the US embassy in London last February that it was “exploring ways to limit the operations of… Press TV.” We know this from US cables published by WikiLeaks.

    Further WikiLeaks documents revealed that British authorities considered use of new anti-Iran sanctions to penalize PressTV Limited who as I stated employs British workers. These workers have been intimadated in an very undemocratic way.

    Personally I support PressTV and would accept any offers of interview without remuneration. They have helped and continue to help my cause together with English Radio World Service in my endevours to gain support for disabled children in Iraq and now Palestine.

    Let us remind ourselves of the plight of Al-Jazaara, a pioneering news agency who, while covering the murders in Iraq, sustained bomb attacks and threats of being ‘taken down’ ‘one way or another because it constitutes ‘enemy media’ – not so looney now eh?

    At the time U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld described Al Jazeera’s coverage as “vicious, inaccurate and inexcusable.” A five page memo containing these details was leaked by David Keogh, a civil servant at the Cabinet Office, and Leo O’Connor, a research assistant to former Labour MP Tony Clarke, both were charged under the Official Secrets Act.

    The OSA and ‘D-Notices’ prevent such disclosures in the UK media, many of public interest and some of which I too, as a veteran, have knowledge of.

    In the wider scheme of things I give my blessing to harmony, accord, pacifism and reconciliation.

    I see only order in Iran, not hegemony, not aggression, no targeting of civilians, no false-flag blackops and no massacre and mutilation of children in their thousands, left to scavage bomb-sites for food or anything to sell for food and left devoid of any guidance, direction and love.

  • angrysoba

    “I see only order in Iran, not hegemony, not aggression, no targeting of civilians, no false-flag blackops and no massacre and mutilation of children in their thousands, left to scavage bomb-sites for food or anything to sell for food and left devoid of any guidance, direction and love.”
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    That’s because you see what you want to see.
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    George Bernard Shaw saw much the same thing in Stalin’s Soviet Union.
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    Now, let’s make this make this simple:
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    Do you agree or disagree that Maziar Bahari was arrested and tortured by the Iranian regime?
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    Do you agree or disagree that many other dissidents were arrested and tortured by the Iranian regime, in particular following the elections there?
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    Do you agree or disagree that the Iranian government funds Press TV?
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    Do you agree or disagree that George Galloway, Lauren Booth, Ken Livingstone and Jeremy Corbyn are therefore employees of the Iranian government?

  • YugoStiglitz

    Mark Golding, you spoke of Children of Iraq Association (COIA) trustees. Are those persons real? Could you name a few? The reason that I ask is that Craig Murray took your comment very seriously – obviously, he thinks that there’s a group of trustees at Children of Iraq Association, and he thinks that they are important people.

    Just name a few of these people, please.

  • Chezzy

    @Mark_golding
    When Angrysoba (from Japan) and Yugostiglitz (from St Louis),the two Isreali trolls come out to play, you know that you are very close to the truth.

    George Galloway is a courageous man who tells the truth and stands by his principles. His descriptions of Isreal as “a terrorist gangster state” and a “miscreant, law breaking rogue, war launching, occupying state” are objective and obviously true.

    I agree that the circumstances of Robin Cook’s death are very suspicious, even more so now that we know that David Kelly was almost certainly murdered.

    We have no recourse to justice when the murderers can control the courts, the inquiries and the judges.

  • angrysoba

    “When Angrysoba (from Japan) and Yugostiglitz (from St Louis),the two Isreali trolls come out to play, you know that you are very close to the truth.”
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    That’s because we’re telling it!
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    “George Galloway is a courageous man”
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    That sounds almost like, “Sir, I salute your courage, your strength and your indefatigability!” to one charming upholder of human rights, Saddam Hussein.
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    He’s a looney and liar, “I don’t support Ahmadinejad” he says. Then to Ahmadinejad himself he says, “Your excellency, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad…my support for your election campaign…”. I’m surprised he can speak with his tongue so firmly jammed up Ahmadinejad’s anus.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul7FbMBp7dc
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    Please tune in later for clips of Galloway’s support for other totalitarian and autocratic rulers such as President Bashar Assad of Syria.
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  • Chezzy

    @ Angrysoba

    Glad you felt the need to comment.

    Calling someone a “looney and a liar” is remarkably childish and something I would have expected from your brother in St Louis.

    By the way that Youtube video looks like a fake. There is so much disinformation around these days.

    George Galloway met Saddam to argue for better treatment and supplies for the people of Iraq. Your comrades from the U.S. were meeting Saddam to give him chemical and biological weapons to attack the Iranians and the Kurds.

    Hows the weather in Tel Aviv?

  • angrysoba

    “By the way that Youtube video looks like a fake.”
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    Believe what you like (and you will) but which part do you think is fake? The part that is taken from Press TV’s own interview between Galloway and Ahmadinejad in which Gorgeous George explicitly says he supported Ahmadinejad and fawns on him throughout or the part when he says he didn’t support Ahmadinejad and will pay the student one thousand pounds if any support of his for Ahmadinejad can be found?
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    If it is the former then you have to explain why Press TV broadcast this fake in the first place (although I would then agree with you that Press TV aren’t trustworthy) or if it is the latter and you dispute he has ever DENIED supporting Ahmadinejad then you will find he has said as much in newspaper columns for the Daily Record and at other speeches, interviews etc… Presumably they’re all fake too.
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    “There is so much disinformation around these days.”
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    Very true: Prison Planet, Global Research, Press TV, Russia Today…
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    “George Galloway met Saddam to argue for better treatment and supplies for the people of Iraq.”
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    Of course he did. And I suppose he never admired him, right? Because he didn’t later praise Saddam Hussein (Saddam to his friends) and Nasser on a stage in Jordan (I think) and he didn’t praise Uday Hussein to his face? He wasn’t buddies with Tariq Aziz and always welcome in Ba’athist Baghdad, right?
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    I know Galloway has repeatedly said that he wasn’t saluting Saddam Hussein but the people of Iraq. The video of Galloway makes it obvious this is a lie. So, along with his lie about not supporting Ahmadinejad when he did (which you yourself recognize as problematic as revealed by your instantly declaring the video a “fake” in loony conspiracy theorist fashion) put it together and what do you have?
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    He’s not a supporter of Bashir Assad, now gunning down his people, and various other tyrants?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mlt4q3DPpeQ
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    “Your comrades from the U.S. were meeting Saddam to give him chemical and biological weapons to attack the Iranians and the Kurds.”
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    US collusion with Saddam Hussein was certainly a terrible thing and I’m glad you recognize it too. Usually when I talk to people of your political convictions I hear nothing but endless praise for Saddam Hussein’s regime. I’m happy to hear I won’t be getting that from you.
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    “Hows the weather in Tel Aviv?”
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    Sadly, Mossad won’t give me a room with a view so I don’t know.
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    [The previous sentence is a joke; it is not to be taken seriously.]

  • mary

    Back on topic.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2011/may/24/injunction-publicity-backfires-law-firm

    Injunction publicity backfires on celebrity law firm
    After Ryan Giggs’ lawyers tried to sue Twitter for the initial internet leaks, thousands more tweets followed in retaliation

    David Leigh and Owen Bowcott guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 24 May 2011 21.53 BST

    plus a nice piccy of Mr Keith Schilling posing in front of mirrors. So vain that we have to see seven images of him as if one is not sufficient.

  • mark_golding

    YugoStiglitz (Larry not from St Louis) – so was it you that complained to the Charity Commission? Yes, they wrote to me saying the case was closed after reviewing my original application that listed the trustees.

  • Duncan McFarlane

    I’m pretty sure the original tweets on Giggs will have been sent by Sun or New of the World journalists who were looking to get round the injunction so they could keep publishing their grubby “investigations” of celebrities private lives to make money from them. The twitter users were unwittingly helping out Murdoch and Kelvin Mackenzie and their kind.

    I’m all for super-injunctions being granted and enforced on peoples’ private lives. If someone’s had an affair their partner has a right to know – no-one else does. Every column inch in a newspaper and minute of TV news filled with sex gossip is keeping us from hearing real news that could really affect all of us and that most of us would care a lot more about.

  • Suhayl Saadi

    Duncan, re. superinjunctions, in general and in most cases, I agree with you. But it is a complex area and is not always simply about protecting privacy; sometimes it is about protecting the powerful and their power and influence and that is not necessarily the same thing. For example, Andrew Marr vigorously quizzing politicians about their private lives yet imposing media silence on his (he is a political commentator responsible for directing public inquisitiveness and is very much in the public eye, almost as much as, or possibly even more than, politicians) and then only revealing that this had occured when he was on the point of being ‘outed’. It’s not a simple equation.

    On Press TV, while I find it can be interesting, I view it as I view, say, Fox News or the Chinese News Service. I know Fox News is not a Govt organ, but it does have a definite political slant, shall we say. Nonetheless, Press TV is an organ of the Iranian regime. That doesn’t mean that everything it says is wrong, far from it, we need different viewpoints if only to try and gauge the dirtections and flows of power, but it does mean we ought to exercise even much discernment when watching its reports, esp. those about Iran, etc. I know people in Iran – not normally US supporters, actually – who are terrified (since the July 2009 protests) and who tell of young people being lifted and imprisoned, etc. Obviously, that is not an excuse to attack Iran – God, no – but I don’t think we ought to have any illusions. Nonetheless, one power will play off another in various ways and the US-Iran dynamic extends very much along such lines.

    Personally, I have to say that I think Yvonne Ridley and Lauren Booth are naive and at least in Ridley’s case, exemplify white guilt at its starkest. Fine, she – Ridley – became a Muslim. Glad she attained some peace (cf being a tabloid journalist, say). But why did she have to become THAT sort of Muslim and dress like a bloody nun? Stockholm Sydrome? Possibly. But really, we don’t need it, we really don’t need more blooming Islamists. Take the loudmouthed Anjem Chowdray – today’s self-appointed beardy hate figure – he’s a wanker extraordinaire! With the support of the Pakistan Milbus (‘Military-Business Complex’), they’ve turned Pakistan into a hellhole (and yes, of course I know the USA et al helped create these monsters; so in that regard, Ridley’s posturing seems like nothing new. Theer are people struggling against all this, trying to build stuff, stuck b/w the Islamists and NATO. Great situation, eh?

  • Duncan McFarlane

    Suhayl – I agree with you sometimes super-injunctions are mis-used, but I’m not against them where it’s genuinely about someone’s personal life. I don’t think much of Andrew Marr’s supposed objectivity (he’s obviously fanatically Blairite) and it was completely out of order for him to ask politicians about their private lives and for him to ask Gordon Brown if he was on any medication (that was part of the Blairite ‘Gordon’s mad’ campaign – i disagreed with a lot of things Brown did, but i always got the impression he had more decent instincts than Blair and was more honest, though he got too caught up in ambition and Blairite spin war).

    On Press TV i completely agree. You have to be very careful of anything they report. They’ve even had people make televised ‘confessions’ extracted by torture. I wouldn’t trust anything they report unless i can also find it reported by some more reliable source, just as i don’t take US government or Us military statements as reliable if they’re the only one claiming it. Iranian government propaganda is just as bad as Pentagon or Fox News propaganda.

  • Chezzy

    @Angrysoba

    “[The previous sentence is a joke; it is not to be taken seriously.]”

    I think that applies to your whole post. Smears such as yours about George Galloway show how much the authorities are troubled by his integrity and honesty in presenting his arguments.Although I don’t agree with George on everything I certainly admire his courage and tenacity.George can look after himself as far as malicious smears are concerned as the Telegragh found out,to their significant loss.

    “Sadly, Mossad won’t give me a room with a view so I don’t know.”
    Never mind, just sit back and pretend you are in Japan.

  • Chezzy

    I find Press TV biased but nothing like as biased as the BBC and western MSM in general. The same can be said for RT.

    On non-Iranian and non-Russian issues respectively,I would trust Press TV and RT coverage more than BBC, Fox, CNN etc.

  • angrysoba

    Chezzy:
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    “Smears such as yours about George Galloway show how much the authorities are troubled by his integrity and honesty in presenting his arguments.”
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    “Hows the weather in Tel Aviv?”
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    Anyone note the irony?

  • angrysoba

    “George can look after himself as far as malicious smears are concerned as the Telegragh found out,to their significant loss.”
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    Yes, and speaking of irony, you have to love the next clip. Here’s the Gorgeous One holding a meeting in which he condemns the UK police for brutality in a demo he was on.
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    Two Iranians are sitting in the audience who suddenly shout out that George Galloway works for the Iranian state that has just been shooting dead demonstrators in Teheran and throwing opponents of the regime into jail to be tortured.
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    Galloway gets some help from the UK police to have them thrown out.
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    Is that not irony?
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACE1n4GgYDE

  • Duncan McFarlane

    Chezzy – you have to remember the Russian and Iranian governments have their own foreign policy interests that they want to promote in coverage of other countries. e.g The Russians would love Gaddafi to stay in power now so that he’ll start giving Russian oil and arms firms contracts, now he’s irreparably fallen out with the Europeans and Americans. On Georgia they want to have control of Georgia and the AIOC pipeline route just as much as NATO does. Oil not exported via it will often go through Russia instead, increasing Russian tax revenues and giving them the ability to use oil and gas supplies to apply political pressure to other countries From Ukraine to Germany.

  • Suhayl Saadi

    Well, Mary, it’s certainly ironic that Dominic Lawson (of all people) criticised Ridley for being a stooge of the Iranian regime. And Lawson’s not a stooge?!!

  • mary

    Charlotte Harris, a media lawyer from Mishcon De Reya is on Dimblebore’s Question Time tonight on BBC1 after the 10pm News. Also on are Jeremy Browne MP, Hilary Benn MP, Sir Christopher Meyer and Louise Bagshawe MP. You can guess what the main topic will be.

    http://www.mishcon.com/people/charlotte_harris

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    Lawson not a stooge?? Well he defended Cast Lead in the Times in January 2009. Also named as a MI6 agent by Brian Sedgemore in the HOC. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/237349. An establishment stooge in my book.

  • Chezzy

    Duncan,

    As I said, I think that PressTV and RT are biased but not as biased as BBC or Fox etc.

    Angrysoba,

    As you are someone that smears honest, decent people that point out the truth about Israel and you always come out of the woodwork when Israel is criticised, I think it is reasonable to conclude that you probably reside in Israel.

  • angrysoba

    “Angrysoba,

    As you are someone that smears honest, decent people that point out the truth about Israel and you always come out of the woodwork when Israel is criticised, I think it is reasonable to conclude that you probably reside in Israel.”
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    Which honest and decent people have I smeared?
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    I want you to name the person and the smear I have made.

  • Suhayl Saadi

    That’s what I said, Mary. “And Lawson’s not a stooge?!!” Meaning, of course, that in my view, Lawson IS a stooge. So it was ironic that he called Ridley a stooge. Two stooges, then, perhaps. The third stooge might be Con Coughlin of the Daily Telegraph. Now we can have a comedy feature!

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