The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
then there is this one….
“Lynda
12-18-2012 at 15:37:56
@Marilyn
I believe EM said that Sylvain Mollier took the wrong route (?). Mind you EM has said many things that then get denied or worded differently.
@Peter, yes I believe it was the Alpine team as well, but a local in Chevaline said they were speaking a foreign language ! I wonder what is the make-up of the team ?”
which tends to confirm the story but why didn’t they say “speaking english” rather than “a foreign language”. Surely all French would recognise spoken English” even if not understanding it?
BB:
http://politikforen.net/archive/index.php/t-131442.html
here, a Gendarme is mentioned, Christian Jambert, who is supposed to have been commited suicide in 1997. Both, this Gendarme Stan Maillaud and Christian Jambert should have been working together in the same field: paedo-satanism…
But, the point is: When found, this Gendarme Jambert had 2 (!!) balls in his head.
And here to BB’s question if the two Maillauds are brothers
http://alphaveridia.legtux.org/?p=425
Could be possible, at least to me, but so far, no fact found on that. (that/if they are “connected” familiare….
In response to some questions about radio frequencies, Saddam Hussein and the context of what Dion Longworth has to do with it:
https://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1997_hr/j970617s.htm
Was Mollier a union man by any chance ?
And re the “Military types”. They may of course be British, but don’t forget it wasn’t the “police” that were called.
Interpol for instance have a varied collection of people in their employ. Often in “multi nationale” organisations, English is spoken.
Socialist activities….and “wins” three years off.
Is this because Claire’s work was more important ?
Although “that day” he’s already “off”.
Why we couldn’t afford to fall out with the Frenchies – in public at least?
“The UK military is about to get a powerful new telecommunications satellite, Skynet-5D.
The nearly five-tonne platform will complement three others already in orbit, enabling British forces to stay connected over most of the globe.
It will launch on an Ariane rocket from French Guiana late on Wednesday.
The Skynet system, which includes the radio equipment deployed on ships, on vehicles and in the hands of troops, is the UK’s single biggest space project.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20781625
Searching “the French nuke” unions.
By chance, this….
“It is with consternation that AREVA has learned of the violent attack suffered by Mrs. Maureen KEARNEY, Secretary of the European Works Council, at her home on December 17, 2012”.
( http://www.areva.com/EN/news-9651/areva-press-release.html )
And they are getting “legal” with how a newspaper reported it !
“Furthermore, the Executive Board of AREVA, with the support of the Supervisory Board, announces its intention to take legal action against French daily newspaper Libération for its defamatory coverage of this matter in its issue of December 19, indicating by way of various shortcuts in reasoning and the drawing of dubious parallels that AREVA could have any sort of responsibility in an attack upon one of its own employees”.
Some strange French goings-on @ http://transition888.heavenforum.org/t788-sos-disparition-suspecte-de-stan-maillaud?
Rumors and concerns.
warned Stan. It might be liquidated. Read about it: http://www.cineyrgie.nl/?id=3213, and videos therein indicated. In this chronicle of the July 18, I wrote: ” In reading the story of this case, there is a doubt: the children have been manipulated by their mother – or a cult – to tell all to the detriment of their father? In charge, unbelievable nature of the facts and the number of complicity, discharge, so it is impossible for small children to lie in groups without contradicting themselves. fact is that no investigation is carried out in buildings or outdoor places where crimes were committed 16 described by the children. Medical records, drawings and stories of children, have been sufficient to cause a thorough investigation of the facts mentioned. But that’s not all! As in the Dutroux case, the police seem nosy or suicide run to stifle the investigation and activate the usual protections. Maillaud Stan, a former policeman, who was the first of those who denounced the judicial and police harassment against the ‘antipédophile Marc Vervloesem raises strange questions: two policemen and two female police officers murdered for their curiosity? Stan Maillaud suggests that the gendarmes who were interested in scandal recently unveiled the triple infanticide Var, were liquidated by their hierarchy because of their curiosity. http://www.dailymotion.com/JaneBurgermeister – video = xs789c ” Stan’s girlfriend has communicated that he was arrested, taken in a car by the French police, and he would disappeared following an escape. A helicopter was hired by the police to track him, then canceled due to fog. Another source close to Stan contacted this afternoon by an investigator of Kinderberg cites it could be false information or manipulation launched by the police thugs who trace, to compel him to leave his refuge secret, or to unfold. Naniot Christian has his side of the issue Megazine Werkgroep Morkhoven that does not exclude any facing slopes, including the murder of a fifth policeman. Stan stated in effect that he had left the police, but he remained “Gendarme forever.” In cases of alleged escape, the same hypothesis was strongly expressed by the Megazine , then corrected by this article, that Stan this case would be the fifth policeman killed in this case. It was published for thirty minutes-escape arrest if confirmed, his body would probably never be found. Marcel Vervloesem, who has survived the Belgian prisons who had private hospitalization necessary for healing his cancer was much helped by Stan Maillaud. Read about it: http://www.cineyrgie.nl/?id=2837, and Marcel interview by Stan and his wife, Janett Seemann. Do not forget that one of the interviewers Werkgroep Morkhoven, which was the videotape of the execution of Julie and Melissa in Geneva, was assassinated later in this context, which involves Advocate General in Brussels. I soon to do my part to comment on the strange suicide of a judge in a wood Liège Fernelmont, very recent information that has not been published in the Belgian press. I do not have the ability, due to my hospitalization. At a time when the collective score points, our opponents nervousness is extreme. Death threats rained, both in France and Belgium. And it will not be the recent television program “rehabilitation” of poor Mrs Martin, who has calmed the spirits networks are desperate. I never imagined that something could happen to Stan Maillaud, hiding and took enormous precautions when traveling. The concern remains no less fierce. Stan, where are you? The news of his supposed disappearance spreads at the speed of lightning citizens in all walks of inquiry. The Kinderberg is worried and shocked. Population, connect on Facebook, Marcel Vervloesem page. Press will not comment on the news. Vanden Berghe Patrick Source: http://www.cineyrgie.nl/?id=3293
So “liberation” are in trouble.
AREVA will take them to court over what they have reported over the attack on Maureen Kearney. They “Liberation” claim AREVA did it !
That’s one thing.
Another (everyone wants a link between Marin and Mollier) well…!
There are approx 3 Boeing “Dreamliners” that are “AOG” (meaning serious issues). There have only been 40 delivered.
So what’s the problem ? Who knows. BUT
“Titanium Metals Corporation (TIMET) announced that TIMET and Compagnie Europeenne du Zirconium-CEZUS, S.A (CEZUS), a leading French titanium and zirconium producer, have completed the previously announced formation of TIMET Savoie, S.A., a joint company based in France which has acquired the titanium business of CEZUS.
TIMET Savoie is owned 70% by TIMET and 30% by CEZUS. TIMET Savoie will operate within the CEZUS facility in Ugine, France, utilising equipment and personnel dedicated to titanium production which have been transferred from CEZUS. In connection with the transaction, the sales, service and technical support activities of TIMET’s existing French operations will be consolidated with the operations of TIMET Savoie”.
Marin was/is a “sim” trainer for Boeing on the Dreamliner.
@ Q 19 Dec, 2012 – 4:09 pm
“In response to some questions about radio frequencies, Saddam Hussein and the context of what Dion Longworth has to do with it:”
https://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1997_hr/j970617s.htm
He mentions the importance of a viable domestic electronic tube industry. Russia still has one and the quality of their tubes is much prized for certain high-end consumer and industrial applications.
The matter of export controls is immensely complicated, what with dual-use technologies.
In the case of Richard Smyth [indicted for violating export controls on hundreds of Kryton nuclear triggers to Israel] and his wife who fled the US and remained at large until captured in Malaga, Spain in July of 2001. Smyth pled guilty to violating the US Arms Export Control Act. In November, Smyth was sentenced to 40 years in prison and a $20,000 fine, though he was free within four years. In 1985 a Federal Grand Jury was convened in Los Angeles to investigate potential Atomic Energy Act and Arms Export Control Act violations, but no charges were ever filed against [Hollywood movie producer] Milchan or those who helped Smyth flee the US and covered his expenses abroad.
The Krytons apparently have some innocent dual-use applications, and Milchan later joked he might have used one to automatically turn on his slow-cooker for a Sabbath meal.
Another of many examples, frequency generators may have restrictions depending upon their slew-rate, that is, how quickly they can move from one frequency to another. That number changes with improvements in technology, so something that was once restricted to some countries on the restricted lists, becomes legally exportable when falls below the current number.
What items and what countries are on the lists is subject to pressure and lobbying from countries and domestic manufacturers. In the WikiLeaks cable dumps are mundane messages wherein the US consulate verifies that certain pumps ordered by SNC-Lavalin and intended for re-export for one of their overseas projects, are in compliance with the restrictions.
@ bluebird 19 Dec, 2012 – 11:43 am
“While searching for masonry of eric maillaud, i stumbled across stan maillaud. He is said to be a mason. Perhaps just bad conspiracy by somebody as we do not know. However, is he somehow related to eric maillazd? Perhaps?”
The had so much trouble with Masons in the police and prosecutor and judges in England, the passed special laws.
“Freemasons who join the police or judiciary in England have to declare their membership of the ancient fraternal society.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/politics/57381.stm
Oh forgot…
Boeing 787 Dreamliner….Titanium
“This type of analysis has resulted in an increased use of titanium as well. Where loading indicates metal is a preferred material system but environmental considerations indicate aluminum is a poor choice, titanium is an excellent low-maintenance design solution”.
( http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/articles/qtr_4_06/article_04_2.html )
@ NR:
Do you read the posts of others here??
Since approx. 12 o’clock this Christian (Stan) Maillaud’s been discussing here …..
Go, have a look at was has been written since.
@Bluebird: Not sure how we got around to this again, but P.B. Moon had some interesting company on that commission/project. There was Klaus Fuchs, connected to Chalk River, the Rosenbergs and Igor Gouzenko. There was Egon Bretscher, whose children have held impressive careers as scientists. His daughter married to the co-developer of X-ray crystallography using synchrotron radiation. One of his grandsons studied sprites and ELVES in relation to terrestrial gamma flashes (TGFs), before becoming a sociologist. Another grandson, who was studying physics and mathematics at university, disappeared and was found dead in a river in 2006.
@BB: OT: Birmingham U. connects to P.D. Moon, Cedric David Williams, Jerry Sovka, and even Emma Sayle. Such legendary alumni.
More background on the case:
http://planet.infowars.com/activism/france-activists-against-pedophilia-jailed-stan-maillauds-affair
NOTE: there has been a another Gendarme he was working with – “officially” commited suicide – having 2 shoots in his head
What’s up chez les Blues?
Interesting, if you search for Dion Longworth on this site, there are no posts. I do recall many posts about this here. Another “what the” moment.
Q
“team drummond” was the british MAUD commission snd worked for the Manhatten project. This was all about the nuclear bomb and its effects onto people, environment, medicine, biogenetics and food. This was a completely new science, particularly while they did perform those nuclear tests.
I have no doubts that drummond was killed due to his knowledge regarding the manhatten project.
I cannot forget my thoughts about Eric Maillaud being blackmailed. This Christian/Stan Maillaud abduction happened sept 22nd. Shortly after the Brun accident.
Something like that i am thinking of: “We have your brother(?) and you will do what we want you to do and you will not do what we dont want you to do.”
@Bluebird: I wonder if others in the following generations of those families were killed for what they knew.
@Manny: What’s that about kitchens and catering? I seem to recall a story about Saad al-Hilli working on the kitchen galley of the Airbus A-380.
so it took the French 7 years to admit (due to a 2nd autopsie) that this Gendarme Jambert had been assasinated in 1977:
http://intimeconviction.over-blog.com/article-2175588.html
What is this, embarrassing, ridiculous or….. ???
How trustable is the work of the French Gendarmerie/Police ??
Jon, will you please recover the Dion Longworth posts on this thread? It is so bizarre that these are no longer showing on the site search, or outside search engines.
Any new concrete info. on this case? Fascinating that it’s generated around 17,000 posts (there was also a previous thread), which is over eight times more than any other thread, ever, on this blog. Veritably, a triathlon! And yet those who tend to post here, some of whom may have encountered one another on other blogs, seem not to post elsewhere on the blog and – with a few exceptions – vice-versa. Interesting phenomenon. Like a long-departed cosmonaut, I tend to pop in occasionally to take stock and wish all well. Now, back to the interstellar plasma! Good luck with your endeavours.
Greetings, Suhayl.
Greetings, Q. From your name, it seems clear that you are a traveller through the spacetime continuum, too 🙂
So often in these tragedies, the families are not allowed to see the bodies of their loved ones:
http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/estrie/2012/12/18/005-lauren-rousseau-drame-newtown-weedon-disraeli.shtml
@ Suhayl Saadi 19 Dec, 2012 – 9:23 pm
“… those who tend to post here, some of whom may have encountered one another on other blogs, seem not to post elsewhere on the blog and – with a few exceptions – vice-versa.”
I look at other threads from time to time. Most of the commenters are old-timers who are set in their beliefs, engage in pointless name-calling and accusations of disinformation, and are generally humorless. There is nothing I can add.
An interesting aspect of this thread on Chevaline and at marilynztomlins.com also, is that nobody is heavily pushing one idea or the other, minimal personal disputes, and we have totally free-wheeling, unrestricted and often well off-topic discussions, sometimes uncovering unusual connections, even if not relevant to this matter.
Speaking of off-topic, Southbury, Connecticut is home to an IBM global services facility.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southbury,_Connecticut#IBM_Southbury
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Global_Services
Southbury is home to Gilles Rousseau, father of Sandy Hook murder victim Lauren Rousseau. Another school staff member and victim was the daughter of an IBM employee.
Slightly closer to Sandy Hook and Newtown is this former home of Ilya Tolstoy:
http://www.ctmuseumquest.com/?page_id=13749
FWIW, Tolstoy’s father Leo was involved with the Doukhobors who moved to Canada.
Also off-topic is the matter of Dion Longworth, but could it connect to Saad al-Hilli’s line of work?
http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/2765.wss
Old, but relevant corporate connections.