The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
That recent event links CRIIRAD and Iran as enemies.
Rössing!
http://www.wise-uranium.org/umoproe.html
Another possible CRIIRAD reason that could cause an economic assassination.
http://www.ipsnews.net/2010/04/niger-lack-of-data-on-causes-of-death-buffers-french-company/
Note the word “mapping” in that report. Can new satellites map radioactivities?
Did Areva ….. ? Or Iran? Or both?
That is also interesting (Marcoule)
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/marcoule
That links SAH, Baghdad and Iraq directly to CRIIRAD. In fact, we had never heard of that in our media.
http://www.acdn.net/spip/article.php3?id_article=526&lang=en
Did SAH provide samples from the Baghdad zone to CRIIRAD? That would explain why they came with nuclear clean teams to his house. Did he store samples in his house?
Dr. Allaf and Iqbal were medical experts. Did they have papers and testimonies about nuclear deseases in Baghdad to be provided to CRIIRAD?
This link above is interesting. At least there are many reasons now that might link SAH to SM.
SM no secret service agent but nuclear NGO collecting evidence.
This would certainly be an interesting case for somebody who planned to return to Baghdad.
http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/22/iraq-nuclear-contaminated-sites
http://www.irinnews.org/printreport.aspx?reportid=26315
Note the guardian link: The UN in Geneve(!!) receives documents regarding the radioactive pollution in Iraq by deployed uranium ammunition. Who is supporting the UN in Geneve and CRIIRAD labs in Grenoble with such documents? Who would not want such documents going public?
Interesting
When you search google for “Bruno Chareyron + Mollier” then this Swedish CRIIRAD link is coming up first (already posted above).
http://nonuclear.se/waste2007chareyron
However, there is no Mollier mentioned in the text? Text cleaned but hash keys remaining not clean? Older version in wayback machine available?
A micro radiation environment monitor would work in space but on earth, too. NGOs like CRIIRAD could need such devices and data. I remember having heard the here listed name “Underwood” in relation to SAH. Was he interviewed?
http://epubs.surrey.ac.uk/734153/
CRIIRAD is interesting.
Is Maureen Kearney (union) involved in CRIIRAD out of interest ?
3 kurdish PKK female activists and PKK co founder shot dead in Paris.
All shot in head with silenced gun, one woman killed by bullets in head and stomach.
French blame Turkish, Turkish blame Kurdish internal PKK conflict between Turkish Kurds and Syrian/Iraqi Kurds. Links to Swedish PKK.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20968375
@Marlin: My 2:42 post was to another site entirely. I think you have mistaken me for NR.
@Tim V: Given that it’s a small world and so many people in specific scientific fields are interconnected, if someone like SAH had been up to no good, he could have taken a lot of people down with him. That’s assuming nefarious intent, of course, which is still a bit of an assumption at this point. So the question is, has anyone else been removed?
This animation shows the amount of nuclear testing in an easily-understood format:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY
Flags of the various countries appear at the top. It could well be that certain countries, which did more testing than others, were working on behalf of their allies.
I realize that shipments of MOX to Japan are probably secret. Would such ships carrying this cargo be accompanied, or purposely kept low-key?
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf39.html
Truckers never like to travel empty. It’s far more profitable to set out with one load and return with another. Presumably this is the case with specially-designed ships, too.
I see China and Belgium are partners in this industry, too.
http://www.wise-uranium.org/epasi.html
A further question: would the ships that carry various types of nuclear fuel also have those GPS tracking devices that are followed by satellite? Does this apply to highly-sensitive cargo, possibly accompanied by a military escort?
IIRC, SSTL was in the ship-tracking business, too.
@Pink: One thing I have seen leave gouges in wet ground is a motorcycle kick stand. I have not seen this occur in pavement, unless it’s a very hot day and the tarmac is melting. Of course, that pavement looked like one of those thin coats typically used on side roads (one step better than a gravel surface).
@Bluebird: Some satellites most certainly do have the ability to capture infrared signatures. Seems to me that would be enhanced by taking such images at night, when daytime heating by the sun is reduced. Nuclear reactions, even at sea, underground or undersea, would leave a heat signature. There would also be steam venting, I would imagine.
An issue at ground or sea level would be much more obvious. There’s also that signature bright flash, the mushroom cloud, and radio interference.
GPS satellites are able to detect nuclear signatures, although it would have to be more than a dental X-ray, for example.
Wasn’t Saad al-Hilli doing mechanical engineering work on the airplane galley of the Airbus A-380? An important component of that work would be heat shields. Heat shields are also important to satellites. Much of this work crosses over from airplanes to aerospace.
Pink
10 Jan, 2013 – 7:20 am amazingly I hadn’t read that Independent report from the 8th Sept based on a visit the previous day before! It’s one of the best I reckon and contains bits of information I haven’t seen before – the blood stains covered in soil, blood-stained twigs and leaves, the pebble-filled gouge, the fact the crime scene was not the previously circulated car park location, that the road criss-crosses the stream many times, that traffic is banned by no entry sign beyond, that the information sign warns to beware of wild animals and hunters and that the police spokesman had admitted the tyre tracks were being studied carefully. These facts, as far as I am aware, were not reported in quite the same detail else where or the postulation of the alternatives of the killer being already there when they arrived or following them up, although some might think these were obvious alternatives. As you know I take the view that only the deep gouge in front of the BMW and those to the rear were made by the BMW and that the others were made by another vehicle – probably the killers. I have gone further to suggest these others, based on geometry, car engineering and logic positively COULD NOT have been made by the BMW, not in any rate in any escape manouevre as postulated by the police. The only excuse for all the BS put out by the police is distraction to enable them to pursue true lines unhindered. Sadly there have been so many said with Maillaud’s straight face, that sadly I am forced to conclude it is rather either incompetence or cover-up. Are there no genuine detectives or justices in France determined to uncover and publish THE TRUTH?
One other question for anyone who might know: was Japan doing any test drilling for coalbed methane, or methane hydrate, in the ocean in the general vicinity and time of the March 11, 2011 earthquake? Rare metals and methane play a role in China’s dispute with Japan over the Senkaku Islands.
Further to my previous post, we know that SSTL satellites can see mineral deposits and illicit substances. Would illicit substances include contraband and legal shipments of nuclear material?
This article explains that much more information is needed about what happens when seawater and nuclear fuel mix:
http://news.discovery.com/tech/fukushima-sea-water-nuclear-fuel-120308.html
Is it logical to assume the reaction would be different in fuel that is enriched, MOX, or spent fuel, etc.? It’s kind of surprising to see such an information gap.
The article does not mention what would happen in the case of a nuclear submarine failure, or a shipping accident of a nuclear fuel carrier.
Q, you are right – thanks for correcting.
My first post above was in response to NR 11:48AM that references MZT.
But the second was indeed to you. I guess straw44berry’s post on Sweeney is along the same lines. Saad could have indeed met these people along the way – the satellite business in britain is probably a pretty closed network.
Here are various ideas for you:
This old article shows the general shipping routes for nuclear fuel to and from the U.K.and Japan. These routes may have changed in the interim. The shipments to and from France apparently have stopped:
http://www.bellona.org/english_import_area/energy/nuclear/sellafield/24269
There was a safety falsification scandal in 1999 that led to Japan returning some MOX to its producer in the U.K.
This article explains how Japan and other countries are able to go around sanctions on Iranian oil:
http://www.iranwatch.org/update/index.html
This nuclear test caused the failure of satellites in low-earth orbit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_Prime
How many “meteorites” have fallen to earth since March 11, 2011?
At one point, Japan had offered to enrich nuclear fuel for Iran:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/RestOfAsia/Japan-offers-to-enrich-uranium-for-Iran-report/Article1-512391.aspx
@ Q 10 Jan, 2013 – 3:37 pm
“Rare metals and methane play a role in China’s dispute with Japan over the Senkaku Islands.”
China dun it! They don’t like Japan much anyway, and it was a warning of what will happen to Hawaii and the US West Coast if President Obama shows up in Beijing in his stovepipe hat and tries to flip them two of the shiny, new trillion dollar coins to pay off the debt.
Q
You will like this.
Here signs a Frederic Brun a “L’appell de Fukujima” for CRIIRAD.
http://seenthis.net/tags/criirad-25994
What do you think?
@ Bluebird
With one of these I could aim my new German, laser death-ray beam just by thinking.
http://www.thestar.com/living/technology/article/1312689–ces-toronto-s-interaxon-trains-your-brain-with-thought-controlled-headset
Bluebird @10.45 am
Sniffer aircraft but not satellites:-
On Tuesday, one day after the reported test, the United States sent up a “sniffer” airplane to test the skies over North Korea for radiological evidence of a nuclear event. The airplane that performs this task is the WC-135 Constant Phoenix, an “atmospheric collection aircraft” that runs regular patrol missions to back up the Limited Nuclear Test Ban Treaty of 1963. According to the U.S. Air Force, this sniffer plane has “external flow-through devices to collect particulates on filter paper and a compressor system for whole air samples collected in holding spheres.” The plane’s technology includes analysis equipment that provides results in real-time, so if radioactive particles are present in the air, it’s known immediately as the plane flies over a specific location.
from here:-
http://science.howstuffworks.com/nuclear-detection.htm
BB 11.56 am
I stand corrected with your link reposted here:-
http://epubs.surrey.ac.uk/734153/
Tracks, gouges and waiting for 8 hours……
Did they think the car was booby trapped?
The tracks are from a bomb squad remote vehicle to check if the car was going to explode? They had to wait for the right vehicle and operator.
Bomb squad perhaps were looking for similar in Claygate.
one of the few photographs I have seen showing the tyre tracks in front of the BMW suggesting he had reversed quite a way from the road, maybe having first gone forwards? If so, again this reinforces the evidence that Mollier fell at the side of the car not in front as Martin said.
that was meant for Pink
10 Jan, 2013 – 8:06 am. good new shots Pink – points for discovering and sharing
Bluebird…
Following your bit of info, I was digging around with a couple of names on that list.
Found a “forum” site (I think it from the one you found).
And there is a lively discussion at the bottom.
One question. How old was Mr Brun when he died ?
Here’s the “forum” note on “Fred”.
“Sun, April 10, 2011 at 2:33:49 p.m. by Fred_1975”
So, in April 2011, how would have Fred been ?
And how many “Fred Brun’s” are there in France…of that age.
A long shot, but well within your “capables” to find “how many” ?
….And Bluebird
If you google “Fred_1975 areva” you’ll see what I mean.
Is this chap “our man Fred” ?
A huge long shot. Or is it ???
Comment # 3 posted by Fred in 1975 November 26, 2011 at 24:59
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