The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Ref. Serb drug gangs – could be Bluebird
22 Jan, 2013 – 11:06 pm but somehow I doubt it. It’s the sophistication of the operation and the involvement of Mollier that puts a spanner in the works I feel. And the obfuscation of the French just wouldn’t have been employed to protect Serb criminals I’m thinking. I think their reaction would have been completely different – checks at borders, pulling in known contacts and underworld figures, firm finger pointing, liason with Serbia itself. We have seen none of that. Instead no pictures of the victims apart from SAH himself, five weeks to set up a dedicated phone line, allowing contamination of the crime scene, misinterpretation of the evidence, plain lies, changing the story to fit inconvenient facts, resenting probing questions from the press, claiming – “99.9% certain Maillaud said – Mollier was unconnected with the murders, suggesting from the very beginning that they were unlikely to solve it. Would this have been the case if they were sure it was done by the Serbian Mafia? I don’t think so. This has all the hallmarks of assisting the offenders and who ever sent them.
Tim
We do not know – if there was information to be leaked – what kind of information this had been. The French would have a lot of interest hiding info of scripted terror attacks, pedorings pr drug business the government might be involved directly.
We know that mobsters and mafia are working for intelligence services and they getting a wild card (“don’t go into jail with your card”) in return.
I would not exclude a Serbian mobster killer being assisted by e.g. French or Americans or Russians.
Tim v.
Re: Barnes and Sloane:
When he had devices to recover drones and missiles from the sea, then those devices could be used to recover drugs from the sea, too. Could they?
Also what Sloane is proud to present:
http://www.sloanehelicopters.com/latest_news_detail/177
How did the al Hilli girls come back to the UK and who knew about their whereabouts?
Would a helicopter pilot talk to them during the flight to the UK?
Tim v.
See Barnes linkedin:
“contract pilot for police and air ambulance Surrey.”
Talk of Serbia allows a gratuitous mention of “A Serbian Film”. No great point, except to comments that claim assassins, state or not, wouldn’t harm innocent children. It’s only for connoisseurs of extreme gore, so those aren’t who aren’t already aware of it don’t want to be. Even reviews are exceedingly graphic.
“… Is this the nastiest film ever made … With its mix of pornography and ultra-violence, A Serbian Film is genuinely disturbing, but it offers more than just shock value…”
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/a-serbian-film-is-this-the-nastiest-film-ever-made-2137781.html
The Wiki entry quotes creator, Srdjan Spasojević responding to the controversy with, “This is a diary of our own molestation by the Serbian government… It’s about the monolithic power of leaders who hypnotize you to do things you don’t want to do. You have to feel the violence to know what it’s about.”
“Nowadays in Eastern Europe you cannot get a film financed unless you have a pathetic and heartwarming ‘true story’ to tell about some poor lost refugee girls with matchsticks, who ended up as victims of war, famine and/or intolerance. They mostly deal with VICTIMS as heroes, and they use and manipulate them in order to activate the viewer’s empathy. They make a false, romanticized story about that victim and sell it as real life. That is real pornography and manipulation, and also spiritual violence – the cinematic fascism of political correctness.”
“… because Serbia is merely a reflection of the ways of today’s New World in general, as it tries to imitate it and fails miserably. Contrary to the peerless politically correct facade of the New World, it’s still a soulless devouring machine for killing every small freedom – of art and free speech – we have left, destroying everything different in its path.”
@ Q : The story is yet another example of a protagonist drugged, in this case by the film-within-a-film’s director, and instructed to indulge in vile acts – a beheading, etc. – of which he has has no memory, until he sees the finished product.
A plot that might implant bad ideas in someone already unbalanced – the director or the actor? Except Hollywood intellectual Quentin Tarantino assures us that never ever happens.
A horse clue and a Casablanca clue all in one; the film “Les Chevaux de Dieu (Horses of God)” about bombings in Casablanca by militants or terrorists depending on whose style book one follows.
“Cheryl Carter, the Sun’s former beauty editor and Mrs Brooks’ former PA, has been charged with conspiring to pervert the course of justice.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/the-suns-defence-editor-virginia-wheeler-and-former-met-pc-paul-flattley-charged-with-misconduct-in-public-office-8461512.html
There’s hope some of their other famous figures will be charged with conspiring to pervert the course of justice by faking emails and setting up fake Facebook pages.
A fun political pic on Icke.
http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/January201393/184681_448518841884413_832547680_n.jpg
@ bluebird 23 Jan, 2013 – 7:46 am
“How did the al Hilli girls come back to the UK and who knew about their whereabouts? Would a helicopter pilot talk to them during the flight to the UK?”
Stories said Capt. Barnes was loved for his friendly manner and clients requested him. Ferrying celebrities and top-level elites about, something else he’d be noted for would be his utmost discretion. He obviously wasn’t calling TMZ with gossip, but he could well have lots of that in store. Might pass some of it on to one or more SISs. Emergency trips to pick up a briefcase of green or white or some star’s personal anesthesiologist ran out of Propofol at 0230.
Or, he might have transported one of Savile’s elite friends along with a niece and nephew. Years later the kids recall the friendly pilot and the investigators start to track him down to verify the allegations.
The Icke commenters are ahead of us on clues. They’re on to the myths and symbolism of cranes, especially in Japanese and Korean societies. The Tower is the 16th card in tarot and the crash happened on the 16th. Many numerological interpretations too, but if one manipulates the numbers almost anything can be made to come out to 666.
It would be very interesting to know not only how the daughters were conveyed back to Britain but other “players” too. For example how were the “twenty military types” conveyed, we are told from Paris, and given the fact that WBM returned to Britain probably on the 6th September, back in France by the following weekend, then back in England a couple of days later for the BBC/SKY interview, it would be fascinating to know how he travelled. Did he really drive all that way – almost two thousand miles and at least thirty hours? Or was he conveyed by air at the British Government’s expense?
UPDATE: Yours added below Marlin – Thanks. We’ll edit the list when the contributions stop coming.
(Thanks for the support of my idea NR
16 Jan, 2013 – 6:20 am. How are going to organise this. Maybe we could just be “democratic” and in the first instance just ask everyone who has contributed on here, to submit ONE pertinent question? They would need to be collated and a decision made to whom they should be submitted. I suggest the Editors of the National Press in Britain (and France?)and TV stations. They would be unascribed and submitted in the name of this site if that were acceptible to Craig? A request would have to be attached as to feedback. Maybe some of the media might make a story out of the request in itself? So if it helps I will start collating here and add just one of my own)
1. When did the SAH’s leave Claygate and what was their route and timing to Annecy? (NR)
2. Why did Eric Maillaud claim, and keep claiming, the English cyclist Brett Martin had made the initial call at 3.48, when it must have been clear (he being British and speaking little French) that it could not have been him and why was this later changed to a Mr Philippe Didierjean, who it was reported lived locally but cannot be traced? (TimV)
3. At what time Laurent Fillion-Robin saw the green 4×4 and motorbike pass by and what time did the forestry vehicle stop the motorbuke and where? (Pink)
4. Is the ex-policeman involved in the investigation of child abduction and abuse, Christian “Stan” Maillaud, who suspiciously disappeared from police custody on the 22nd September, 2012, and has not been located or in contact since, in any way connected, by family or profession, to Eric Maillaud, the Public Prosecutor for Annecy? (TimV)
5. Why was the crime scene opened up to the press two days after the event, whilst significant forensic matterial (i.e. blood-stained earth and leaves, cigarette buts, broken glass, used cartridges) was still there? (TimV)
6. Where and for whom did Pete Barnes (the helicopter pilot in the recent Vauxhall, London crash) work from Sept. 5th-8th and who was the second victim? (BB) and was he connected in any way with the incident at Chevaline? (TV)
7. Regarding the 4×4 and motorcycle – has Martin confirmed that they passed him both on his way up AND coming down from the crime scene? and if the builders saw them BEFORE they saw the BMW (which they put originally at a time between 2:30 and 3PM) where could these vehicles be for 20-30 minutes so that Martin could see them going up – AGAIN – sometime after 3:15PM? (Marlin)
8. Why was Martin – from the onset – his hands covered in blood – according to Phillipe D – not considered a suspect? why was he not at least held as a “material witness”? (Marlin)
9. What reason is there that no photos – or any other information – are available on three of the victims? is that not counter-productive for generating information leads from the public and/or generating sympathy for presumably “innocent’ victims of a psycho killer as Eric Maillaud has maintained? why the unusual blanket of secrecy if all we are dealing with a “lone killer” with a pathological dislike of tourists and/or cyclists?
10. How did William Brett Martin travel to and from France and was he assisted in any way by the British Government? (TV)
11. It was reported that “about twenty military types” were deployed to the crime scene from the British embassy in Paris. What was their purpose and what did they do? (TV)
There is no happy love
Nothing is ever granted to man neither strength
nor weakness Neither his heart And when he thinks
of her arms, Open shade is that of a cross
and shake when he thinks his happiness he grinds
his life is a strange and painful divorce
There is no happy love
It looks like his life these soldiers unarmed
That was dressed for another destiny
What can serve them up in the morning to
the evening They found that idle uncertain
Say these words my life And hold back your tears
There is no happy love
My beautiful love, my love, my dear tear
I carry you in me like a wounded bird
And without knowing those watching us pass
Repeating after me the words that I braided
and that for your eyes straightway died
There is no happy love
Time to learn to live it is already too late
in the night cry What our hearts in unison
What to unhappiness for any song
What you should regret to pay a thrill
it must be sobbing for air guitar
There is no happy love
There is no love that is not in pain
There is no love that can not be bruised
There is no love that can not be withered
And neither of you the patriotism
There is no love that is strong crying
There is no happy love
But it is our love for both
Louis Aragon (La Francaise Diane, Seghers 1946)
Tim v.
Your question 6 part 2 is already known and therefore irrelevant.
Please add 2 more questions:
1) who did transport the girls to the UK and how were they transported?
2) What does Jack Saltman’s company “fastdata” do and aas SAH working for this company?
Marlin, that french film at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3Vjb5DM-ms is rather curious. Of course it’s in french with no English translation so rather difficult to follow if you don’t speak the language but who made it? It’s only had a few thousand views and doesn’t appear to be a main television channel or anything yet it appears very professional and has interviews with Parisien journalists and others including what appear to be exclusive ones with Maillaud, so it must have a bit of influence. The creator appears under the name of “Potowrion” whose motto is ” Rien n’est jamais aquis ” which turns out to be the title of the above poem. It appears to have a site on You Tube, which it joined on the 26th August, 2012, with many military/crime history type videos focusing on the second world war, military training and exercises and crime. At one point the author makes the following comment:
“Thank you for your recent comments on the report sections of research and information Alpini. Maleureusement I have removed the video after encoding has trouble making video tremblente at times, so I took the decisions removed and I apologize for those who want to see or review, if it will be available again early next week …
Thank you and very soon for more stories;)
Pytowrion”
Perhaps someone on here (BB?) might be able to shed more light on it?
Slightly OT, who would want to hide in the underground tunnels of an abandoned military base in Mallorca recently?
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?166425-Abandoned-Military-Base-Mallorca
There’s not a likely supply of lizards and Coca-Cola down there.
This one for example – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1-1V4_Abf8 “CHASSEURS ALPINS | Les commandos du renseignement”
and lots more. It appears to be a recent you tube site specializing in films about special operations. The question that arises in my mind is it French Government sponsored.
It may not be the “Costa del Crime”, but Mallorca has its own circumstances:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/virtual-mafia-states-russian-mafia-an-international-concern-for-us-diplomats-a-732345.html
http://hughash.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/the-rise-and-fall-of-mallorcas-madoff-nice-john-hirst-and-how-the-10m-conman-was-finally-nailed/
UPDATE: Added (and subtracted) yours below BB thanks. Yours added below Marlin – Thanks. We’ll edit the list when the contributions stop coming.
(Thanks for the support of my idea NR
16 Jan, 2013 – 6:20 am. How are going to organise this. Maybe we could just be “democratic” and in the first instance just ask everyone who has contributed on here, to submit ONE pertinent question? They would need to be collated and a decision made to whom they should be submitted. I suggest the Editors of the National Press in Britain (and France?)and TV stations. They would be unascribed and submitted in the name of this site if that were acceptible to Craig? A request would have to be attached as to feedback. Maybe some of the media might make a story out of the request in itself? So if it helps I will start collating here and add just one of my own)
1. When did the SAH’s leave Claygate and what was their route and timing to Annecy? (NR)
2. Why did Eric Maillaud claim, and keep claiming, the English cyclist Brett Martin had made the initial call at 3.48, when it must have been clear (he being British and speaking little French) that it could not have been him and why was this later changed to a Mr Philippe Didierjean, who it was reported lived locally but cannot be traced? (TimV)
3. At what time Laurent Fillion-Robin saw the green 4×4 and motorbike pass by and what time did the forestry vehicle stop the motorbuke and where? (Pink)
4. Is the ex-policeman involved in the investigation of child abduction and abuse, Christian “Stan” Maillaud, who suspiciously disappeared from police custody on the 22nd September, 2012, and has not been located or in contact since, in any way connected, by family or profession, to Eric Maillaud, the Public Prosecutor for Annecy? (TimV)
5. Why was the crime scene opened up to the press two days after the event, whilst significant forensic matterial (i.e. blood-stained earth and leaves, cigarette buts, broken glass, used cartridges) was still there? (TimV)
6. Who transported the Al Hilli girls to the UK and how were they transported? (BB)
and was the pilot of the crashed Vauxhall helicopter in any way connected with the incident at Chevaline? (TV)
7. Regarding the 4×4 and motorcycle – has Martin confirmed that they passed him both on his way up AND coming down from the crime scene? and if the builders saw them BEFORE they saw the BMW (which they put originally at a time between 2:30 and 3PM) where could these vehicles be for 20-30 minutes so that Martin could see them going up – AGAIN – sometime after 3:15PM? (Marlin)
8. Why was Martin – from the onset – his hands covered in blood – according to Phillipe D – not considered a suspect? why was he not at least held as a “material witness”? (Marlin)
9. What reason is there that no photos – or any other information – are available on three of the victims? is that not counter-productive for generating information leads from the public and/or generating sympathy for presumably “innocent’ victims of a psycho killer as Eric Maillaud has maintained? why the unusual blanket of secrecy if all we are dealing with a “lone killer” with a pathological dislike of tourists and/or cyclists?
10. How did William Brett Martin travel to and from France and was he assisted in any way by the British Government? (TV)
11. It was reported that “about twenty military types” were deployed to the crime scene from the British embassy in Paris. What was their purpose and what did they do? (TV)
12. What does Jack Saltman’s company “fastdata” do and has SAH worked with or for this company? (BB)
Here’s another of Lois Aragon’s poems: (No real significance to topic here as far as I know but a certain resonance I thought).
I get where I am a stranger
Nothing is as precarious life
is nothing like being a passenger
It’s a bit like melted frost
And the wind being light
I get where I am a stranger
One day you pass the border
Where do you come from but where are you going
tomorrow matter and matter yesterday
The heart changes with thistle
Everything is without rhyme or forgiveness
Put your finger on your temple on
key child in your eyes
Better leave the lights low
at night longer we will better
This is the big day is getting old
The trees are beautiful in the fall
But the child what became
I look and I wonder
From this unknown traveler
From his face and bare feet
Gradually you do silent
but not yet fast enough
to not feel your dissimilarity
And on thyself of yore
Getting the dust of time
This is a long age in the end
The sand leaking through our fingers
It’s like a cold water rises
as it is a shame that grows
a leather that screaming curries
It’s long been a man something
this long to waive any
and do you feel the metamorphosis
Who are inside us
Slowly bend our knees
O O bitter sea deep sea
What is your time tides
How many years is it-seconds
A man to man recant
Why why these affectation
Nothing is as precarious life
is nothing like being a passenger
It’s a bit like melted frost
And the wind being light
I get where I am a stranger
Louis Aragon
Am I right to think that “Pytowrion” is a soldier much into on line/vidoe war gaming or am I completely wrong? And is the “Presume Innocent” film just one he’s added to his list from some other source?
PRESUMED INNOCENT
Murders, scandals, scams, disappearances, sex cases … these various facts have hit the headlines. For D8, Presumed Innocent reopen the files. How the crime he broke into the French daily, which so far lived mostly uneventful? What has actually happened? The cons-Presumed Innocent investigations are aiming to put the facts in perspective, with the help of police, judges, experts, witnesses and key players in the case. Because, beyond the human tragedy, the facts say a lot of variety through, fears and shortcomings of our society. # PRESUMEINNOCENT
This seems to explain @ http://www.d8.tv/d8-docs-mags/pid5193-d8-presume-innocent.html Sorry to bother you all.
Right it was created by “D8” part of the “Canal+ Group” it seems. Those who have been following will remember Canal+ has been at the centre of a big Frtench scandal involving Murdoch and Israelis USA etc. as discussed above. So at least that put the prog in context.
I was looking into the use of low-altitude satellites by EISCAT and came across this list, interesting because of the partnerships and places:
http://www.ann-geophys.net/19/1367/2001/angeo-19-1367-2001.html
I can’t recall if we discussed EISCAT in relation to Surrey Satellite Technology Limited or Rutherford Appleton.
HAARP is EISCAT’s more well-known equivalent elsewhere.
Have we looked at Genevieve Morange?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248973/French-Alps-shooting-Cyclist-murdered-massacre-involved-bitter-dispute-million-pound-inheritance.html
The Schutz family, who now refuse to speak about the murders, have been receiving advice from Pierre Morange, the brother of Genevieve Morange.
A political ally of Nicolas Sarkozy, the former French president, he is the MP and town mayor for Chambourcy, near Paris.
Morange found himself drawn into another high-profile murder case five years ago when Christian Marichal, the chief of police in Chambourcy, was found stabbed to death at his home.
The murder came shortly after both men had been accused of corruption, allegations they both denied.
A year later, Morange, who said he feared for his life after Marichal’s murder, was granted a special permit to carry a handgun. Mr Morange declined to comment on the latest killings.
Have we looked at Al Hilli’s work ?
A custom electrical worker !
Or do they call veryone “engineers” these days.
Another thing. Why would you buy a run down wreck of a house in France. To do it up ?
Or because you can buy things. Construction type things.
What were those large blue barrels in his garden ?
Garden waste ?
Another strange thought hit me.
If you need a trailor, but don’t want to have things on display, how would you carry them ?
I know this is a really odd thing to say…but !
Clearly MI5 had Al Hilli “on radar”.
And no doubt Fort Meade, Maryland had picked up his activities on the interweb (Just get my “hello’s” in. Hi guys, how ya’ll doing tonight ? All good I hope. Go Terrapins, Go Terrapins).
But what had they found out about him ?
Was there going to be a “Le Nine Eleven” ?
If the photo time of 3:15pm is correct and it was taken on the outskirts of Arnand then SAH must have driven past the builders to the bottom of Combe D Ire and then turned left onto Route du Moulin
driven back towards Arnand and Doussard,took photo,s ,turned around and driven back to Combe D Ire either that or the builders didn’t see the car untill after 3.15pm.
If they were already at Arnand they had no reason to drive past the builders anyway there is a clear sign pointing to Combe d Ire along Route Du Moulin coming from Doussard thats the way I would go.
I came across information about EADS removing space debris from low orbit:
http://www.eads.com/eads/int/en/our-innovation/our-technologies/Eco-efficiency/Cleaning-up-the-low-Earth-orbit.html
http://event.astrium.eads.net/en-le-bourget-2011/astrium-showbuzz-news-and-updates-from-the-paris-airshow-2011/space-debris-its-getting-chock-a-block-up-above-k2e-ke7.html
http://www.sst-us.com/news-and-events/2010-news-archive?story=1661
FWIW.
@Pink: Do you think the al-Hillis might have stopped in at the derelict supermarket in Doussard along the way?
@James: Surely Saad al-Hilli was composting. And perhaps he was looking for “le 7-11” in Doussard, but found only a supermarket that had seen better days.
@Q
23 Jan, 2013 – 9:44 pm
I don’t know Q what make’s you think they might have ?
Here’s another “strange” one.
What if the builder was right…and the police are right !
And Martin was right (he did say “passed by a”. The only direction that is mentioned is later in his statement.
Al Hilli does indeed arrive at the carpark.
But when the pictures are taken, he is not driving the BMW.
That is still at the carpark being “unloaded”.
We asume that a car passing, mean that there are the people we want to be in the car…are in it !
What if the shooting was at 15.30
And the pictures were taken at 15.15
And LFR (which sounds like Ronin ! or JFK ! or LBJ !) saw the car earlier.
Every possible thing has to be looked at.
Al Hilli taking that sharp turn seems strange (to go back to Arnand) and then to say “what the hell, we’ll go up the combe D’Ire”).
@ James 23 Jan, 2013 – 7:27 pm
“What were those large blue barrels in his garden? Garden waste?”
Blues Clues! There are too many sets of coloured dust bins at Claygate. Blue, green and brown bins.
There are too many blue tarps covering “things” at the site of the London helicopter crash at Saint George’s Towers. What needs covering other than corpses?
The police at the helicopter crash site are collecting evidence in large white bags marked “No Deposit Required” that appear to be oversized, reusable market shopping bags. Is that what they are?
Did not somebody say here previously there was a market bag from England hanging from a tree at the campgound near the al Hilli’s caravan? A bag that contained a disappearing orange?
If Mossad did the job at Martinet should they not have hung a Do Not Disturb sign somewhere, on the car or on the caravan?