The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Just for a little light relief lol
p134
There are thirty-three degrees in Freemasonry… Once a person reaches the 33rd Degree, which very few do, the person is considered illuminated and hence becomes a member of the Illuminati.
According to many researchers of the Illuminati, their goal is to restore monarchies around the world, culminating in the crowning of a Merovingan bloodline World King who will rule over a New World Order dominated by a handful of royal and banking families, enforcing government by decree and employing a single world electronic currency implanted in every human being.
p134
Every US President since FDR has been a 33rd Degree Illuminated Mason, except Ronald Reagan, who was given the honorary title, and John F. Kennedy, who was assassinated.
p134
The Italian mafia was founded by Guiseppe Mazzini, the 33rd Degree Illuminati Grand Master Mason of the P-2 Lodge. P-2 is close to the Vatican Bank and funded South America’s fascist drug-ridden governments of the 1970’s. http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/New_World_Order/BigOil_Bankers_PersianGulf.html
The house that Sylvie Lecour was stood outside in the video is the one just below the church on the bend on Chemin du moulin you have the house with camper van on the corner then a shed and then the house SL was filmed by, if you follow the white wall with the fence on top and use zoom you can see the gate it does not mean its her house but thats where it was Oui on MZT located it .
NR
I totally agree with your links regarding the fake chemical attacks and the timeline. This is the truth and nothing but the truth. And i am quite sure that the assassination of SAH and family plays big part of that truth. We live in a world of fake and lies and the biggest liars are the so called free media. Unfortunately most people are that dumb and uneducated that they trust media and believe them every word. It’s a hopeless situation for the truth. We are lost.
Craig Murray’s comments on The Guardian’s reporting on Julian Assange’s appearance via video at the Oxford Union and MSM propaganda/smear.
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/01/amelia-hill-is-a-dirty-liar/
@Tim V: Some people have taken to calling those sketchy custom vans with tinted windows “pedovans”. I’m not sure if that’s because of the kind of people who like to drive them, or because of the tinted windows, or both, but that’s the word on the street.
“The government has denied asking journalists to shield senior ministers “allegedly involved in child pornography” from press coverage.”
“Defence minister Mark Francois offered a categorical denial in a letter to Labour backbencher Tom Watson after widespread online speculation about the potential impact of the ‘defence advisory’ (DA) notices on last year’s paedophilia scandal.”
“He then hit out at the internet as he pointed out it sometimes ignores the “normal professional standards of journalistic reporting”.”
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/01/30/no-establishment-child-porn-cover-up-minister-insists
Indignant categorical denials usually mean whatever they’re denying is true.
Tim V
From your very interesting link “the third world traveller” (thanks for posting that link).
John Swainton, Chief of Staff of the New York Times
There is no such thing as a free press. You know it and I know it. There’s not one of you who would dare to write his honest opinions. The role of journalism is to destroy truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to fawn at the feet of Mammon…We are tools and vassals of the men behind the scenes. We are jumping jacks: they pull the strings, we dance; our talents, our possibilities and our lives are the property of these men. We are intellectual prostitutes.
Protocol 10: “It is from us that all-engulfing terror proceeds. We have in our service persons of all opinions: monarchists, demagogues, socialists., trying to overthrow all established authority. By these acts all states are in torture; they exhort tranquility, are ready to sacrifice anything for peace. But we don’t give them peace until they openly acknowledge our international super-government, and with submissiveness…to utterly exhaust humanity with dissension, hatred, struggle, envy and even by use of torture, by starvation, by inoculation of diseases, by want, so that the goyim see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money.”
Protocol 13: “And how far-seeing were our learned elders when they said that to attain a serious goal behooves not to stop at any means or to count the victims sacrificed …We have not counted the victims of the goyim cattle. In order that the masses themselves may not guess what they are about we must further distract them with amusements, games, pastimes, _passions, people’s palaces…these interests will finally distract them from questions in which we should find ourselves compelled to oppose them. Growing more and more disaccustomed to reflect and form opinions of their own, people will begin to talk in the same tone as we, because we alone shall be offering them new directions of thought.”
Gold dominates is the currency of drug and weapons traffickers and Dubai is a favorite hub in the global bullion trade. The British Bank of the Middle East dominates the Dubai gold trade. It is 100% owned by Hong Kong Shanghai Bank (HSBC), which monopolizes the Hong Kong gold trade along with Kleinwort Benson, which has close relations with Rio Tinto, a company founded on Matheson family opium proceeds. Matheson’s heirs are the Keswick and Swire families which dominate the board of directors at HSBC, Jardine Matheson, P&O and Cathay Pacific Airlines.
@Felix: So, we have no idea if Sylvie Lecoeur lives in the house where she was standing when she was interviewed? We have been told by the media that it is her house. That is an important distinction, perhaps. We have no idea if “Sylvie Lecoeur”, the bicycle/car-riding supermarket shopper even exists. We do know that her name translates as “heart of the woods” and that she was standing in front of house #33, which is three times 11. We do know that if she lived there, she would have passed the house next door, which at the time of the Google Streets photo had a white Peugeot 206 parked on the property, and a sketchy van with men reading maps inside it. And we do know that if someone wanted to pick a town where nothing ever happens, and no one would take notice if it did, they couldn’t have picked a better spot than Chevaline.
Who is Igor Kurvanor?
Why was he interested into those two streets in Arnand/Chevaline?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/136361442
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/136361443
This link below is in german but use google translate:
Read the “Doussard-Charbon-Doussard” chapter. It describes val d’ire and the parking and above parking area very well (before the killings happened!)
http://home.arcor.de/afischer1/massiv_des_bauges.html
Sylvie Lecoeur (Mata)
No sign of her in that area. In my opinion this is a false name. That woman might live there, but not with that name. She might well be a crises actress.
Here is route de chevaline by “lacolle”
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/69972674
Thanks Bluebird
2 Feb, 2013 – 12:19 am – Yes I thought so too. Poor old Rothchilds, only worth
10 000 000 000 000. I posted it for the ref. to 33 but it’s equally useful for 4 (horses). “Eyes” (new to me) sees no bodies and with better kit s(he) is no doubt right. However those vehicles parked so neatly, so close together in an empty park still I find rather disquieting somehow. Perhaps it’s just by association. Then there is the 2010 date. How long is the gestation period for an assassination? I wouldn’t like to say. How long was the gestation of 9/11 or the second invasion of Iraq?
No “Nothing ever happens in Chevaline” does it Q
2 Feb, 2013 – 12:22 am? Will it ever again now that Chevaline will always be linked with an inexplicable act of violence that somehow encapsulated in thirty – even maybe thirty three seconds – of brutality, the clash of seismic proportions, that is currently wreaking havoc to millions of lives in the Middle East and elsewhere. It struck a Surrey family travelling abroad. For how much longer will we in our cosy isolation, be protected from the forces beyond our control?
One thing is clear, this is a murder investigation like no other I have ever come across. No family appeals. No photographs of the victims. No appeals for information. No worthwhile updates on lines of enquiry or the issuing of accurate descriptions of people or vehicles. Plus all the confusion of story lines and witness statements etc etc. Presumably Bramshill and Hendon are already using it as a case study.
@ Tim V 2 Feb, 2013 – 1:43 am
“No “Nothing ever happens in Chevaline” does it Q”
Or, “What Happens in Chevaline Stays in Chevaline.”
Pink
1 Feb, 2013 – 7:44 pm
Did anyone look at the green 4×4’s,I think the one is a landrover I am not sure of the make of the other one I wonder if EM checked them out?
From BB’s link http://home.arcor.de/afischer1/massiv_des_bauges.html
Jarsy – Col de Cheret – Doussard
We break our quarters in Jarsy and run the familiar path to the Pont de Leyat , where we decide to climb on the new runway, as these with much less slope leading up to the pass. Also here you can still see traces of the past winter, at one point one has only recently cleared the way with heavy equipment from the avalanche debris. Top of the pass, it is just as quiet as yesterday, we are in the running trail to the north. Down in the valley rushes the Irishman . The road was only built in the 30’s of the last century, but had been closed to traffic again as the Combe d’Irishman was declared a protected area. Behind the car park we leave the asphalt road, it’s a narrow road side of the road after Arnand and after Doussard inside. We take a hostel at the campsite in the village. Doussard is due to the close proximity to Lac d’Anncey heavily influenced by tourism, but there are several bakery, a supermarket and a butcher.
Blue.
Thanks for the German tourist link.
Now remember the “symbols” posts from yesterday ?
I mentioned “Martin” and what it translates to in French ?
Being a bird, you’ll recall it was a “Swallow”.
Or even a Swift !
Of course ! Le Martinet ! The Martin ! Or The Swift !
Anyway…
From The Swift to The Mayor !
In the post which contained the clip of SL (Sky News I believe), before she was speaking, they interviewed La Mayor.
He said, (via a translator) with regard Mr Mollier being at The Swift Carpark, it could have been him or another “MOUNTAIN BIKER”.
But was Mollier on a “mountain bike” ? It is reported he wasn’t. Indeed it is reported he was on a racing bike.
So why did the translator (or the mayor) say “mountain bike” ?
Could Mollier (a keen cyclist) get lost on a road which leads to a (more than) well known “jumping on point” for fellow cyclists (mountain bikers) ?
Put it another way. If Mollier was indeed riding a mountain bike, then it could be said that he WAS NOT at the carpark by accident.
Infact it could be said that he had ridden that route from his house to take advantage of the flat road and a paved climb…and then enjoyed a “descent” down the tracks that lead back towards the route home to his house.
That “one” fact changes what Mollier was doing there.
As in “by accident” or “by design”.
A small detail, however a rather important factoid !
The Guardian is not only doing disinfo on Assange but has joined the US MSM in mocking Sandy Hook Truthers, who dare to Question Authority. Link has concise list of discrepancies.
http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/sandy-hook-and-media.html?m=1
James it was the mayor saying that that led me to originally post SM was on a mountain bike when I was doing my bike research so I was also suprised to discover it being said he was on a road bike not to sure when the expensive road bike came into play might be worth a trackback.
James
I read that german link, and the description suggests that the pathway behind the parking is such awful that they did hard when walking to the waterfall. That description suggests that it is impossible for a bike other than a mountain bike to go further than the parking lot. And they say that Col d’Ire is protected area!! No trespassing. God knows what is behind the fence.
In James Bond movies, mobsters had their head quarters inside mountains where they controlled their own satellites to destroy mankind ….
We already had enough Hollywood and I hope that this is not the reason why SAH was there.
Pink.
I agree re back track.
If it is a mountain bike, then the story does change somewhat.
I feel that there are “official” stories leaked by police.
And “specualtion” encouraged by the police.
But there are “slip ups” out there.
Think they may turn out to be very relevant.
Here are tourist photos of Doussard and Val d’Ire and the pathways to the Col.
http://www.map-france.com/Doussard-74210/photos-Doussard.html
Here are more photos. Here is also a photo with a wooden sign that – in my opinion – warns of passing that line.
http://www.map-france.com/Chevaline-74210/photos-Chevaline.html
Doussard is a strange place with strange names. Val d’Ire, L’Eau morte, …
Death seems to be very close to Doussard.
It occurs to me that we have motorbikes all over the place even in the old shelter write up phillipe is complaining about a motorbike being up there ,and the gentle giant is probably not alnoe in doing his practice without a licence ,the farmer didn’t seem to concerned to see a motorbike pass several times so why would ONF decide to stop that paticular bike they didnt take any details, I am not covinced by that story I wonder if the bike and ONF had a meeting that they are trying to hide .
The Maitre of Doussard died while he was hunting deer uphill.
http://www.hotelarcalod.fr/news_fr_403.html
There is even an Arab (Iraqi?) living in Doussard with his own business. Not significant maybe. But there is no Mrs. Lecoeur and no Mrs. Mata (Hari?) living in the Doussard/Chevaline region. Name is fake and staged.
http://www.bilansgratuits.fr/REBAI-FATHI–51383589200011.htm
Here are more pictures of Doussard including the waterfall and the path to the waterfall. I would not take a 74 years old woman on that pathway. Photos from the triathlon, too.
http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/doussard/Interesting
History of Doussard
http://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doussard
On Illuminati/Masonic symbolism, look for these also:
horse, ass, donkey, bridge, knight, mountain, goat, goat riding, or the equivalent in French, le cheval — l’âne — l’âne — pont — le chevalier
[I think goat=goat but goat riding I don’t know.]
We missed this: Princes Gate, Knightsbridge
Knightsbridge is the organization of the Knights of Malta
http://www.knightsbridge.org/about/history.html
Knights Templar and Knights of Malta: Candidates for the order must be Royal Arch masons and profess Christianity.
Prospectus – CISCO SYSTEMS INC – 3-23-1998
Knightsbridge Integrated Holdings II Partnership
Gravity Research Group, Aviation Studies (International) Limited
Special Weapons Study Unit, 29-31 Cheval Place
, Knightsbridge London [Don’t know what this is, looks loony]
The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises 🙂
@ bluebird 2 Feb, 2013 – 10:21 am
“James : I read that german link, and the description suggests that the pathway behind the parking is such awful that they did hard when walking to the waterfall. That description suggests that it is impossible for a bike other than a mountain bike to go further than the parking lot. And they say that Col d’Ire is protected area!! No trespassing. God knows what is behind the fence.”
That contradicts Malcolm Lambert from Manx, who claims they were driving back, presumably from somewhere uphill, from the caves and waterfall and passed Martinet shortly before the murders.
Mr. Lambert, before he retired to Manx and from the risk assessment business, was at one time, I think 2005, involved in risk assessment for the London underground.
Did not SM’s partner say she thought SM may have gone to the caves?
Pink
When talking about motorbikes, guess what Arab Rebai Fathi (obviously Tunesian origin) is doing in Doussard?
Repair, rental and sale of motorbikes!
He does also selling food on markets but his main business are the motorbikes.
http://www.entreprise-francaise.com/en/rebai-fathi-513835892/
@ bluebird 1 Feb, 2013 – 9:32 pm
“NR : We live in a world of fake and lies and the biggest liars are the so called free media. Unfortunately most people are that dumb and uneducated that they trust media and believe them every word. It’s a hopeless situation for the truth. We are lost.”
It isn’t just a matter of education. Some of the least educated are well aware of what’s going on, while many of the highly educated delude themselves that they are part of the elite controlling groups. They are in for an unpleasant surprise when they’re no longer needed.
The only hope for us is that they’re now trying to fully automate the predator drones to acquire targets and fire without human intervention. So if it goes wrong the Minister or Secretary of Whatever will loudly proclaim, “Bad algorithm!” and hit a computer on the nose with a rolled up newspaper.
It should be fun with the various sovereign states, mobsters, banksters and oligarchs setting targets and hacking each others’ systems. With luck they’ll kill each other off quickly without too much collateral damage.
Who would have thought that Truther would be used as a pejorative.
From my rebai fathi motorbike link above. Ot only pops up when you enter from google. Search rebai fathi doussard.
Then open the enterprise link from google.
Here is a copy:
Company name:REBAI FATHI
Identification number:513835892Internal identification number:298538315111-Active:YesDepartament:LozerePrefecture:MendeRegion:Languedoc-RoussillonDepartament seal:Address:DOUSSARD
Full Address:-Legal Form:-Capital:-Managers:-Date:13-11-2008/18:43*Our web page contains only public data regarding companies from France.
Activity:Activity:Dtail trade and food market on Ventaire
Main Activity:Trade, repair of motor vehicles and motorcycles
Activity includes:- Retail trade of food prepared for consumption on site (mobile food services)Department info:
Knights shooters Chambery
http://www.chevalier-tireur-chambery.fr/dotclear/index.php
NR
Problem of the human race arent the gangsters, the mobsters and the corrupt politicians. They will always exist.
The problem of the human race are the media who have become paid liars. However, even more so a problem are the majority of people who believe their media every BS they are reporting. Orwell was totally right. But unfortunately it is too late and impossible for a few Winstons to turn the world back to truth, wisdom, honesty and peace. If you dare telling the truth then you will be either imprisoned without lawsuits or else shot dead in the Val d’Ire.