Norwegian Killer Linked to Tea Party and EDL

by craig on July 23, 2011 1:09 pm in Uncategorized

Anders Behring Breivik posted links to the Atlas Shrugs website of the Tea Party’s Pamela Geller. Here you can see him under the name of Anders Behring (his middle name) posting links to Geller’s “Atlas Shrugs” site. That cache page is bing translated from Norwegian.

Here is a video of Pamela Geller addressing the Tennessee Tea Party convention. This is a list of links I just copied off her Atlas shrugs website to a stream of virulent anti Norwegian-Muslim articles Geller has been publishing:

January 2009: NORWAY: Jewish children are not allowed to play outdoors –

April 2011: Norway: Muslim Taxidrivers Refuse to Drive Jews to Synagogue

May 2009: More Jewish Graves Desecrated in Norway

2009: OSLO: ANTI-ISRAEL RALLY TURNS VIOLENT

2011: Norway: ALL Rapes In Past 5 Years Committed By Muslims

2008: Jewish Genocide watch: Jew Hatred in Norway Part II

2009: JIHAD ON THE JEWS: Something rotten in the state of Norway

2008: ISLAM ATTACKS – Death for Writer! Norway Hides

2007: Massive Islamic Terror Plots: Germany, Norway, Denmark

2007: Email from Norway

2006: Norway calls for Israel Boycott

The links themselves appear to have been disabled. You could still see the links on Atlas Shrugs here as I type this. Someone more technically proficient than me might want to grab a screenshot before the list vanishes.

Geller has been actively promoting links between the Tea Party and the English Defence League. Geller states on her website that she had been in Oslo to attend a pro-Israel rally. It would be interesting to know whether Anders Behring-Breivik was also on that rally.

We are told that Behring Breivik acted alone. In truth he had ideological and communication links with organised far right networks every bit as solid as the comparable connections of Islamic terrorists.

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  1. Hmm, if the connections were comparable then they would be every bit as solid, just sayin

  2. Paul,

    That is indeed the point I am making. Plainly the links above are just something to give investigators a direction and indicate from where he drew inspiration. But where Muslims are concerned, internet links or the attendance at the same meeting hvae been deemed enough evidence to lock people up for years.

  3. “A Norwegian man suspected of setting off a blast that killed seven in central Oslo and gunning down 84 youths at a political meeting bought 6 tonnes of fertiliser in May, a farm supply firm said today.”
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/oslo-bomb-suspect-bought-6-tonnes-of-fertiliser-2319284.html
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    He had a vegetable growing business, according to a Norwegian paper last night. I wonder was it legit.

  4. Rupert Murdoch has a vegetable growing business.

  5. Rupert Murdoch is a vegetable: Deadly Nightshade.

  6. “Rupert Murdoch has a vegetable growing business.”
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    :) :)

  7. @Craig, Firefox with the Scrapbook plugin allows you to capture pages whole for reference.

  8. There’s a more direct EDL mention where Breivik expresses admiration for the EDL on http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/

    “Creating a Norwegian EDL should be No. 3 on the agenda after we have started up a cultural conservative newspaper with national distribution.”

    To save you google translating:
    http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.document.no%2Fanders-behring-breivik%2F

    There’s a mention of the acronym ‘GDP’, apparently related to the BNP, EDL and other far-right British groups. Anyone know what he could be referring to?

  9. Ole A. Imsen

    23 Jul, 2011 - 2:13 pm

    The Norwegian version of the EDL’s rally failed so massively that the EDL cut ties.
    The 2009 “Anti-Israel rally” was pro-Palestinian. The reason Norwegian want to boycot Isreal is because of the settlements (which are illegal according to international law) and because they treat Palestinians as “Untermenchen”.
    Israel is a fascist state. Settlements=lebensraum and they treat Palestinians as “Untermenchen”. The only thing Israel has learned from WWII is acting like the Nazis did.

  10. Mary:

    The ‘freemasonry’ photo probably comes from the facebook page that was created on the 17th of July. Apparently Breivik made both a twitter and facebook page on that day. These would presumably be to leave something for the public/media to find after the event, assuming they were created by the suspect himself.

  11. Ole, i’d wish you took that last sentence back.

  12. Thanks AimHere. Something for posterity I suppose he was thinking. 92 dead now. Poor parents and relatives and the survivors.
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    I see that an attempt was made to take out the Norwegian Foreign Minister in Kabul two years ago. He survived but others did not. He sympathises with the Palestinians. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Gahr_St%C3%B8re

    This is an unpleasant site too like Geller’s. Who is Ivarfjeld?
    {http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/category/norwegian-view-on-israel/}

  13. Lilian El-Doufani

    23 Jul, 2011 - 3:24 pm

    Thank your for this info. I’ll circulate to my network. Those anti-muslim postings are terrifying.

  14. There is a lesson here.
    One madman can destroy the lives of so many defenceless teenagers and no doubt psychologically devastate their families. The hate comes from many directions:-
    – Hate immigrants
    – Hate Muslims – or – vice versa hate Jews – or – hate Christians – or – Hindus or whoever
    – Hate, hate, hate
    And some people don’t even recongnise the virus exposed in their own hateful words.
    A friend emailed today and said this:-
    “Where did humanity get the idea that our safety on the planet and our relations with other groups on the planet depends on our ability to construct weapons of deterrence and sustain a defence budget?”
    Norway officially seemed to be taking a more rational and just approach to the Palestinian issue and was not going to contribute money to the banks in the Greek crisis. It also is due to cease its involvement with the Libya bombings as of 1st August. No doubt the hate from the right wing led this crazy man to commit these murderous actions as some sort of retaliatory protest.
    Before more information came out – my mind had led me in this direction:-
    “I WAGER THAT THERE WILL BE A MOVE TO BLAME ISLAM AND MUSLIMS FOR THE ATTACKS IN NORWAY. THE SAD TRUTH IS THAT SOME INTERESTS, SO-CALLED “GREAT POWERS” IN THE WORLD THRIVE ON STRIFE, HATRED AND WAR….READ ON….

    If you were in downtown Oslo and a bomb went off it would make you shit scared if it did not already do serious harm to you.
    At this stage I do not know who was behind the blast, but could I put some things in very human perspective?
    A. A religion is insulted by way of certain cartoons published ( qualifier – for my part I don’t see justification in killing a person because someone drew an insulting picture of my God). Decency, however, would suggest to me ( albeit I am not a religious person) that I don’t go around the world mocking those with Judeo-Christian or Muslim or Hindu or any other type of religious belief and belief in their God. Free speech in every country has it limits and boundaries. And human decency suggests that one need not insult, incite or provoke hostilities – when we full well know that provocation, by its very nature, can lead to violence.
    B. A lot of us in the West simply do not consider the dynamics of A above – but, just blame the Muslims and Islamists or the so-called Al Quiada.
    C. A person walking the streets of Tripoli has a right not to be fearful that a bomb will come hurling down on his or her head, home, family or public service facilities relied on and should be able to live in peace. Resolution 1973 permits a no-fly zone. I am not aware that since the passage of the UN resolution there has been any violation of the no-fly zone by the Libyan authorities. Thus, in point of law, one has to question the legality of the bombs being dropped on the Libyan people. Making war by way of what clearly is a war of aggression must be seen as a provocation.
    D. It is not improbable that for reason of the perceptions of some people of the Muslim faith there is a feeling that it is Muslims being attacked by the West in Libya. If this is so, at this stage, one is left to speculate whether or not the terrorist attack in Oslo and the shooting of the youngsters is not a soft target retaliatory strike in response to the terror bombings of the US/NATO in Libya.
    I do not condone the killing of innocent civilians . The Libyans on the streets of Tripoli are as much human as are the persons walking the streets of Oslo. Bombing either set of persons is in actuality – terrorism. There need to be no political gloss on the observation in the previous sentence. This kind of conduct must be condemned. A leader targeted by Western bombing at the leader’s family’s residence in Triopli. A leader in Oslo having his office targeted and destroyed b y a bomb. A family that loses its child or children in Tripoli – a family that loses a young loved one at a youth camp in Oslo. Can we just simply and honestly term all the attacks – terrorism?
    Can we just stop the fucking bombing and killing of innocent people?
    P.S. The following is noteworthy:-
    1. The bombing took place on a public holiday when the government offices were mostly empty. If someone wanted to do mass murder – the attack would have been on a regular working day.
    2. The person who shot down the youngsters was a Norwegian ( i.e. until I see his picture – I am assuming indigenous white person)
    3. There was close timing of the two attacks. This suggests a single source of the co-ordinated attacks. Who? – black ops?
    4. The thrust will be to promote this so called “war on terror”. One attacks a country that does not attack you then expects – what war or peace? War of course – that is how they make the money – by having reasons to make and drop the bombs.”

    Maybe the whole horrible attack can help us all to pause and reflect some about what we are doing in the world with all the hate, the wars, the bombings.
    Some of us at least may come to our senses.

  15. Three quotes, if I may, from Courtenay’s excellent and heartfelt post:
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    “Can we just stop the fucking bombing and killing of innocent people?”
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    “The thrust will be to promote this so called ‘war on terror’. One attacks a country that does not attack you then expects – what war or peace? War of course – that is how they make the money – by having reasons to make and drop the bombs.”
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    “Who? – black ops?”
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    Courtenay.
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    Yes, on all three counts.

  16. “Those anti-Muslim postings are terrifying.” Lilian El Doufani.
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    Indeed, they are shocking. But let’s not be terrified. Let’s kick the buggers up the arse, here, there and everywhere. We are millions. They are nothing. When I say ‘we’, I mean those who oppose imperial war and terrorism from wherever it derives and as we know, often these things derive from the same poisoned fount.
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    Message to the buggers: We are not terrified.

  17. Ilan, Ole is right and it has to be said that what once was done to the victims of Dachau is now being replicated in Ghaza, just in a slightly edited form. Are you denying that israel has an Apartheid policy, that it describes all Palestinians as terrorists?

    I hope for your sake that the links with fascists are never proven and that the Norwegian public does not get too angry about the links this man kept, but it should ensure that all the links are examined closely, freemasons or not. Norways public must not let its Government cover up the facts behind this outrageous murder.

    If Pamela Geller does not condemn these vile murders, then she is as guilty as Brevik.
    ‘Did brevik meet Pam Geller in Oslo on the pro Israeli rally?’
    very good question and it will come out somehow.

  18. Screenshot of Atlas Shrugs page, as requested by Craig:
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    http://www.killick1.plus.com/atlas-shrugs.png
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    HTML excerpt of same, with clickable links:
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    http://www.killick1.plus.com/atlas-shrugs-excerpt.html
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    They seem quite shameless; they haven’t taken it down.

  19. So this Norwegian freak is a teabagger, albeit a European version. Brilliant. It’s worth remembering where the teabaggers get their inspiration from – Ayn Rand. And she got her inspiration from what she called “The perfect man” – William Hickman. This Hickman was a notorious serial murderer and dismemberer back in the 1920s, and this was the role model promoted in Rand’s more famous books. It was well known at the time Ayn Rand enthused about him, that Hickman had murdered and dismembered a 12 year old girl he’d kidnapped, and extorted money out of her father in ransom, pretending she was still alive. The girl’s body parts were tossed out of his car when her father came to collect her.
    .
    Nevertheless, Ayn Rand worshiped this murderer. His sociopathic qualities had her smitten: “Other people do not exisst for him, and he does not see why they should”, she trilled. Hickman had “no regard whatsoever for all that society holds sacred, and with a consciousness all of his own. He has the true, innate psychology of a Superman. He can never realise and feel ‘other people’. ” This was the character of Howard Roark, hero in Rand’s novel ‘The Fountainhead’. Hickman was, to Rand, a “genuinely beautiful soul”. The full story about Hickman is easily found, but it can be upsetting to read.
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    This is the character that teabaggers are supposed to hold as the basis of their belief system, hence their hatred for government, socialised anything (particularly health-care), and sundry other sociopathic ways of thinking. They’re not just a bunch of racist half-wits with misspelled signs, they are a positive force for evil in the world. We ignore them, or treat them as if they had a worthwhile contribution to political debate, at our peril.

  20. I just love this “guilt by association” – attempting to blame the Tea Party movement for this lunatic’s evil actions. It is cowardly and logically incorrect, but since the US press has been trying to blame everything except sunspots on the tea party movement, it’s not surprising.

    The blogger and commenters are either ignorant of the tea party movement, or engaging in vicious slander.

    The Tea Party movement has never encouraged violence. Most Tea Partiers are *not* Ayn Rand acolytes. Most Tea Partiers are not anti-Muslim, but they are anti-Jihadist

    The subject list on the referenced sites are not “anti-Muslim (with the exception of the rape allegation)” – they are anti-jihadist and anti-anti-Semitic. It is a fact that anti-Semitism is on a rapid rise in Europe, and it is a fact that *some* Muslims and Muslim organizations have been engaged in very uncivilized behavior. To point this out is not to incite violence, but to disagree.

    If this “tea party” web site is to blame, why didn’t the killer attack Muslims? Try to explain that?

    I guess in Europe, where folks don’t have constitutional guarantees of free speech, people presenting unpleasant truths, or even lies, are to be suppressed or blamed for the acts of lunatics, even when no violence is ever incited.

  21. Norway is forgotten now on Sky News and BBC News. They are competing to find the most sensational and gossipy commentators on Amy Winehouse who was found dead two hours ago. Pure muck rakers. Guess what the headlines will be tomorrow.

  22. `Iran: Nuclear scientist ‘shot dead’ in Tehran`
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14263126

  23. “Disgusted” above – so the Teabaggers have never advocated violentce, eh? I suppose “resorting to second amendment remedies”, encouraging teabaggers to attend Democratic representatives’ Town Hall meetings *armed*, racism endemic with its members, etc. etc., isn’t meant to be threatening in any way. “Freedomworks” and other front groups for Coche brother agitation set up the teabaggers precisely to appeal to the fear, ignorance and racism at the core of the movement.
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    http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/03/20/87743/code-red-gun/
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    Teabaggers are full of talk about armed revolution if laws they don’t like are enforced by government. Spitting on congressmen for not voting the way they like, with mobs thousands strong. The executive director is a white separatist, with a record for assaulting for assaulting a coloured person while using racial slurs. They claim Obama “hates white people” and is a Kenyan/Marxist/Nazi – take your pick. It never stops with these people
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    “Don’t retreat, reload!” Palin told her supporters, as the head of the teabagger movement. She’s made her image all about gun ownership and use. Bachman is a dangerous lunatic, who hates gays, Muslims and anyone to the left of Mussolini. Their brand of far-right Christian white power is beyond question.
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    Here’s a question for you, “disgusted” – how many Muslims, Blacks or other racial minorities are there among teabaggers? Racist? Violent? Perish the thought!

  24. Some background that seems to contradict some of the earlier comments (including Craig’s) – Norwegian attitudes to immigration (tweeted by Matthew Goodwin via AnnPettifor) http://www.ssb.no/english/subjects/00/01/30/innvhold_en/

    Of course Oslo might be untypical – just as London is untypical of Britain.

    Pete

  25. Suhayl,
    Thank you for your kind compliment.
    I wonder whether out of this Norweigian tragedy there cannot be much water found to pour on the war fires around the world.
    I have watched keenly this war unfold in Libya, as I have followed previous wars.
    One of the servants of the Libyan war’s continuation is public opinion in the West. Sadly, we have elected representative goverments that do not represent the true wishes and feelings of the majority. I say that for two reasons relative to the Libyan war. The mainstream Western media ( include not just Fox news, but the New York Times, the BBC, CNN and others) are propoganda servants to the war cause.Service to the oligarchic social order is the the other reason ( I shall return to that).

    One way to gain public support is to publish outright lies. Another, is that one journalist in a big name newspaper runs a line, and others simply quote the original falsehood. All of this has happened in the coverage of the Libyan war. I noted the size of the pro-Gadaffi demonstrations and also noted the spin given by the BBC and others to diminish its implications. Millions marching in the street was not to be deemed as support by the majority of the Libyans for their leader.

    But, the point I am driving at is a link between the recent tragedy in Norway and the bombing of Libya.

    I read years ago where Leonardo Da Vinci had designed flying machines, but shelved them when he weighed the great damage to humans that such devices would do if ever made operative. He had some humanity; our modern humanity, by contrast, has been desensitised, but not totally. We do note that in the Western mainstream media’s reporting there are no Libyan human interest stories. Of course not – the Libyan mother who loses a child in a US/NATO bombing is not a human loss and tragedy to be counted. By contrast, in Norway, the Western media will be full of stories of the human loss and tragedy to the Noweigian mother, the Norweigian father, the Norweigian family. There will simply not be a majority of broad-brush politically motivated journalistic commentaries against ’the enemy’. The Norweigians can safely be projected to the reading Western public as humans – the Libyans cannot, excepet to state that there is an on-going ”humanitarian bombing mission” to save the Libyans from a leader that the majority want. Pro-war sentiments have to be nutured; anti-war sentiments have to be suppressed.

    How do we en mass bring all of us, human beings, back into contact with our common humanity? Do we juxtapose an image of the tears of a Norweigian mother against the tears of a Libyan mother; an Iraqi mother? That would be a very effective front page picture on one of the mainstream mass circulation Western papers. The similarity and commonality of human suffering, grief and loss is very human story that many of us would love to hear. And, wordsmiths and an able journalist could write the prize-winning story that helped to bring us back to our senses. But, it is not going to happen – the Libyan mother is the enemy as is the Iraqi mother. ”They” are not ”us” – so we must distance, differentiate and ultimately mininise the other’s humanity. That is how we in the West asssist the war cause. But, with Norweigians we can safely portray true human grief – ”we” are them – ”they” are ”us” – fellow human beings.

    I am suggesting that there is an actual political and psychological management of the global war agenda. What do I mean?

    George Kennan, the US architect of the cold war made these observations:-

    “It may be true, and I suspect it is, that the mass of people everywhere are normally peace-loving and would accept many restraints and sacrifices in preference to the monstrous calamities of war.”

    And

    “We should cease to talk about vague and unreal objectives such as human rights, the raising of the living standards, and democratization. The day is not far off when we are going to have to deal in straight power concepts. The less we are then hampered by idealistic slogans, the better.”

    And

    “Were the Soviet Union to sink tomorrow under the waters of the ocean, the American military establishment would have to go on, substantially unchanged, until some other adversary could be invented. Anything else would be an unacceptable shock to the American economy.”
    The adversary has to be created in al-quaida – in the Muslims – in the Islamists – in ”them” versus ”us” – so we must first be nurtured, taught and learn how to hate to find justification for the war.
    Someone said this:-
    “Without an enemy image you cannot have an oligarchial society” The video explains http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tx5pbVnDXM
    ( Methinks, like Winston, I am committing thought crimes).
    If we stepped back and considered what we have done over the past decade -from Afghanistan to Libya – we find this. A single man hold up in a cave supposedly orchestrated and masterminded 9/11 – so that provided justification to have carpet bombed an already devastated Afghanistan that had recently concluded a war with the then Soviet Union. In Iraq – I guess the Americans are still in occupation because they can’t leave before they find the WMDs. In Libya we have the perfect example of the Vietnam logic – “It became necessary to destroy the village in order to save it.” – the justification for the My Lai massacre. Thus, the “humanitarian bombing mission” over Libya.
    We from the West are making wars to save the people who are subjected to Western belligerence. We have a “war on terror” because, as George Kennan correctly observed, “Were the Soviet Union to sink tomorrow under the waters of the ocean, the American military establishment would have to go on…” and it and NATO’s militaries have gone on…and on….and on….and…..
    Peace! And, may we all be hampered by more idealistic slogans for the general good of humankind.

  26. Well said Mr. Barnett. It is a tough matrix to escape, but it is possible. Demilitarisation can occur, without too much economic turmoil, slowly over time. The problem is these sickos are just addicted to the money and power. They don’t want any solutions, even one they knew would be guaranteed to work.

  27. “Rupert Murdoch has a vegetable growing business”.

    Craig, that is no way to refer to readers of Murdoch’s newspapers and viewers of Sky.

  28. PeteB, yes, from what I’ve heard, I think Oslo is untypical in some respects – as, perhaps, are capital cities in general. There is a sizeable Pakistani community of long standing in Oslo, for example. Generally-speaking, community relations are excellent.
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    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegians_with_Pakistani_background
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  29. As you’ll see, they comprise 0.8% of Norway’s population and 3.7% of Oslo’s population.

  30. I’ve tried to add this comment twice already, the first time with two hyperlinks, the second time with only one hyperlink. Before I raise the question of censorship, I will try it with no hyperlinks at all:
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    Who said this?
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    As the Coalition launches its attack on Libya, ????? says, “It’s not about protecting ‘rebels’ – this is a War for Oil and neo-con colonialism.”
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    “It’s madness, utter madness. The Coalition attack on Libya is the beginning of a new and ugly era – the Era of Energy Colonialism and Oil Wars. Cameron and Clegg have conspired with other US/New World Order puppets like Sarkozy to launch an unprovoked and illegal war on a sovereign state. …”
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    Answer: Nick Griffin.
    http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/attack-libya-%E2%80%93-nick-griffin-slams-puppet-cameron
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    So who benefits from Christian, nationalist lone nut mass murder in Norway?
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    Seems clear: anti-Christian and anti-war nationalists, and liberal advocates of European genocide by mass immigration:
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    http://canspeccy.blogspot.com/2011/07/what-happened-to-white-race-prejudice.html

  31. Thanks for this Clark , another link that FB does not like.

    wellspoken Coutney, the Leviathan must rumble on, must act up to its Monroe doctrine and the project for the 21 st. century, there is a 14 trillion dollar debt reason for it and those bankers do like to get their pound of flesh.

  32. I deleted Sky news off my freeview a long time ago, looks like I am going to have to deleted BBC news as well, don`t watch any BBC programmes these days. Can`t get Russia today on freeview where I live!!!. Even shortwave radio is being closed down station by station!. Looks like the web is the last bastion of free speech/news in the western world…for how much longer will that be allowed ?.

  33. Just checking. Am I barred altogether from this site, or only when I mention certain people or ideas?

  34. Oh, since that went through, I try the post that did not appear a fourth time. Coming up next.

  35. No, that didn’t work either.
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    Well if anyone cares, my comment is posted here (see at the end).

  36. It seems that many of us – including myself – is trying to ascribe blame or ‘cui bono’ or behind-the-scenes machinations to groups they don’t agree with/don’t like, etc. That’s fair enough, and one ought to be skeptical in view of all the disinfo surrounding various deaths/massacres, etc., but in this specific respect in this particular case as it stands at present, might we not be guilty of doing exactly what we criticise the MSM for doing? Just a word of caution to myself as muh as to anyone else.

  37. 1st line: ‘are’ not ‘is’ (in case I am thought to be semi-literate!)

  38. Funny how quick people were to blame the Arab world when it’s believed to be Moslem perpetrator but when it turns out to be a Christian fundamentalist (i.e. a non-Jewish Zionist) then he’s just a lone nut.

  39. Norway today is a fanatically Jew-hating, Israel hating socialist/fascist country, I know the Norwegian Royal family are definitely not anti-semites, but these socialist scum are made up of Jew-hating vermin who will do anythinmg not to cause any trouble with their beloved muslim community, who fled their own fanatical islamic states in order to live a dem,ocratic life in the west, why is it that they then vent their filthy rotten Jew-hating animosity towards the tiny Jewish community of Norway, attacking Jewish children, firebombing synagogues, aswell as other jewish communal buildings, and desecrating jewish graves. These vermin are no asset whatsoever to Norway, they are just spongers and their children become radicalized by their islamic preachers of jew-hatred. There is now no future for the jewish community in that stinking country anymore, before the second world war many Norwegians wanted the jews to leave for palestine, when the nazis invadedmany weren’t shy to direct them to the Jews, now these msame norwegians and their descendants want the jews to get out of Israel and see it destroyed for good by arabs who kicked out almost 1,000,000 jews from the arab world in 1948.

  40. Mark, I agree. That is yet another example of Islamophobia.

  41. Clark,”Islamophobia” is just being used in order steal the global resources that Muslim countries possess, it is all a front to try and give credence to the utter criminality of our leaders. Good article here, Jérôme Defaix…
    http://www.leap2020.eu/MAP3-July2011-Contents_a6877.html

  42. Guest, it always cuts both ways. Of course people are afraid of the people they abuse.

  43. Let’s see if I have this right. Someone made a post to a site using a name different from the name that’s been reported in the press. But you are certain this alias is him. And, if it is him, you found he linked to exactly ONE post from Atlas Shrugs. And you use that to smear the entire Tea Party movement?

    Idiotic.

    I guess if I find a post that he’s written in which he links to The New York Times, that means he’s got a connection to The New York Times. And I can infer from that, and create a blog post that strongly insinuates, we ought to see a connection between the left wing ideology that spews from that paper on a daily basis and the commission of mass murder.

    See how stupid that sounds?

    Why not just say that because the sun rose in the east on Saturday he decided to go on a killing rampage?

  44. How accurate are these traffic stats sites? eg Alexa
    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/craigmurray.org.uk#
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    Readership by country/percentage of site traffic
    United Kingdom 44.3%
    United States 11.5%
    Other 44.4%

  45. Just noticed that those figures add up to 100.2% !!!!!

  46. It’s the 0.2% you have to watch, Mary…

  47. Do we assume that the Tea Party are using Megaphone now? I noticed that Pamela Geller’s video ended with a big Megaphone logo.

  48. Scott
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    you write
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    ”ONE post from Atlas Shrugs. And you use that to smear the entire Tea Party movement? ”
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    Why are you defending Geller?
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    ‘So Who Are The Nazis? Meet Atlas’s Thugs’
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    http://maxblumenthal.com/2010/03/so-who-are-the-nazis-meet-atlass-thugs/
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  49. Clark for those who do not know what Megaphone is, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_tool
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    For Megaphone read CAMERA, Hasbara, New Israel Project etc etc.

  50. Ron Paul has some good ideas; I don’t agree with everything he says. Nonetheless…
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    I see he’s now hacked-off with the Tea Party, though:
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    http://www.digitalmeetingcenter.com/ron-pauls-shocking-message-to-the-tea-party/851883/
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    Nothing overtly to do with this Norway massacre, but a relevant point, since we’re talking Tea Party.

  51. ”From Oklahoma City to Oslo, Neo-Cons Blow it Again”
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    July 23rd, 2011
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    ”Editorial in today’s print edition (subsequently amended but still heavy with insinuations) of the Wall Street Journal: ”
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    http://www.lobelog.com/from-oklahoma-city-to-oslo-neo-cons-blow-it-again/
    .

  52. Just reading the BBC main news headlines on the TV. First comes Amy Winehouse, then the Queen’s condolences to Norway, followed by Cameron’s and then Theresa May saying that ‘UK police stand ready to help’. No Theresa, they are far too busy for that because they are answering questions, writing resignation letters, arranging their golden goodbyes, dealing with lawyers on how they will give evidence to the various inquiries and generally faffing.

  53. Andy:

    Work on your reading comprehension skills. I did not defend Pamela Geller or her site Atlas Shrugs. I pointed out how idiotic it is for the author of this blog to link the suspect in the mass murders to the Tea Party simply because the suspect may have once linked to A SINGLE post from Atlas Shrugs in a comment on an internet forum.

    The ONLY reason the author of this blog made that flimsy connection is political. He obviously does not like the politics of the Tea Party so he created this post to smear them. And he sent it out over twitter to stoke left wing hate against the Tea Party. What he has done is despicable.

  54. Glenn Greenwald recommends this article in his Update II today:

    How a clueless “terrorism expert” set media suspicion on Muslims after Oslo horror; Benjamin Docherty; 7/23/11

    http://tinyurl.com/3me5as7

  55. media experts and
    .
    then the “Message Force Multipliers” speak.

  56. A document is circulating that claims to be Anders Behring Breivik’s manifesto, with the filename:

    2083+-+A+European+Declaration+of+Independence.docx

    It’s very long. At first glance it looks as if it is real.

  57. I do hope that this horrible set of events allows everyone – the MSM, in particular – to come to the conclusion that apart from being dangerous and wrong, jumping to conclusions wrt the perpetrators of terrorist outrages wrt to one or other community just makes those who do that look silly.
    .
    But I know that the MSM will no come to that conclusion – they didn’t eat humble pie, or learn, after the Oklahoma Bombing, when exactly the same (wrong) conclusions were leapt at.

  58. Nike Cohen is scribbling as we speak.
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    what’s the going rate for a thousand words of bullshit.

    .

  59. At the very least, even taking this on its surface meaning, it would seem to suggest that the constant propaganda of Islamophobia and asociated Far Right mores has very real effects, that radicalisation in Europe is not something unique to Muslims. Of course, this is blindingly obvious from ‘European’ history. It is interesting that this killer attacked the Norwegian Labour Party, though, rather than specifically Muslims. Perhaps he had a hatred of multiculturalism or tolerance or whatever and blamed the Labour Party for these policies. So, the constant banging-on of a very small minority of the contributors to this blog (and far more widely on the www) in relation to, for example, the supposed purity of Europe/Britain, etc., the use of inappropriately extreme terms such as “genocide” when actully referring to cartel capitalist cheap labour migration, and the entire gamut of other such xenophobic emanations, does run the risk of contributing to an underlying ‘hum’ of propaganda that simply cannot be ignored or excused in the context of this massacre. As Courtney wrote, hate breeds death. I think that these people, who runs websites, etc., whether or not intelligence servive-operated, ought to face this – just as those Muslims – whether or not intelligence service-operated – who constantly talk about ‘jihad’ in terms of killing need to face the potential consequences of their hate-filled rhetoric.

  60. For example, the material allegeldy written by Breivik does not seem all that different from some of the material to which I referred in the pevious post.
    .
    mondoweiss.net/2011/07/the-norway-massacre-and-the-nexus-of-islamophobia-and-right-wing-zionism.html
    .
    here we see the obsesion with th three Ms: ‘Marxists’, ‘Muslims’ and ‘Multiculturalism’, the same drawing of parallels b/w these groups/concepts and the Nazis of WW2 and so on.
    .
    Perhaps, the Norway massacre is the wake-up call in relation to all this nonsense.

  61. Look Scott if you are not happy with Pamela Gellens PR profile on here, please allucidate us to her aims and objectives with regards to Palestine, Scott?

    Would you not agree, Scott, that people like Ms Gellen could give the tea party a bad name, a candidate/liability with such rabid views can not possibly hold a cosmopolitan global view, don’t you think?

    Not that Ms. Bachmann has got anything over her, there must be a nest of them somewhere, who breeds these Palin clones?, they must have all met on the cross roads to oblivion.

    That said, Scott, give us one good reason why we should follow the incessant US presidential schmoozing over here for the candidates of your choice, pal.
    Do you really think you are your own determinant? has something far bigger gotten hold of you?

    tell us!

    Well,, hiiiiiihaaar think again!

  62. Sometimes Craig I find your posts and many of those by your regular commenters insightful and interesting.

    This isn’t one of those times.

    Whilst you’re busy trying to make smear links here, you might want to consult the EU’s statistics on terrorism for 2010:

    https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/publications/te-sat2011.pdf

  63. Glenn above seems to have ingested all the poison the progressives can concoct about the Tea Party… so let’s deconstruct a bit. Of course, his use of the offensive term “Teabaggers” tells us about his objectivity

    “Disgusted” above – so the Teabaggers have never advocated violentce, eh?

    Citation?

    I suppose “resorting to second amendment remedies”,

    Citation?

    encouraging teabaggers to attend Democratic representatives’ Town Hall meetings *armed*,

    Citation?

    racism endemic with its members, etc. etc., isn’t meant to be threatening in any way. “Freedomworks” and other front groups for Coche brother agitation set up the teabaggers precisely to appeal to the fear, ignorance and racism at the core of the movement.

    Racism? I guess you actually believe that BS.
    .
    http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/03/20/87743/code-red-gun/

    Ah yes, the well made signs where SEIU infiltrated a tea party rally to make it look violent. I think you’re one of the suckers they were targeting.
    .

    Teabaggers are full of talk about armed revolution if laws they don’t like are enforced by government. Spitting on congressmen for not voting the way they like, with mobs thousands strong.

    Cite?

    The executive director is a white separatist, with a record for assaulting for assaulting a coloured person while using racial slurs.

    Executive director? There is no such thing, since the Tea Party is a movement, not an organization. Your ignorance is on full display here.

    “They claim Obama “hates white people” and is a Kenyan/Marxist/Nazi – take your pick. It never stops with these people”
    Yes, some on the right claim that. But you are a typical bigot, stereotyping a very broad and deep movement by using the words of a tiny minority as if it represents the whole movement. Typical progressive lies and propaganda.
    .

    “Don’t retreat, reload!” Palin told her supporters, as the head of the teabagger movement. She’s made her image all about gun ownership and use.

    And your problem with that is? In America, especially in the west, we recognize the value and the danger of guns. Of course, it was people of your ilk that immediately blamed the attack on Gifford on the Tea Party, before it came out that the schizophrenic who did the deed hates conservatives.

    “Bachman is a dangerous lunatic, who hates gays, Muslims and anyone to the left of Mussolini. Their brand of far-right Christian white power is beyond question.”

    Proof, or do you just engage in slander for the hell of it?
    .
    “Here’s a question for you, “disgusted” – how many Muslims, Blacks or other racial minorities are there among teabaggers? Racist? Violent? Perish the thought!”

    Here’s a question for you, idiot: Did you know that the famous picture of the armed Tea Party member at the rally in Phoenix, cropped by the mainstream media, was of an African American tea party member? So much for your ignorant assumptions.

    ……….

    Confusing European right wing nationalism with US nationalism is a sign of true ignorance – European nationalists are much more radical and are often violent.But then, Europe has that glorious history in the last century, so they have history to build on.

    Norway has suffered an incredible tragedy at the hands of a truly evil man. Using that event to target the Tea Party is as despicable as it is inaccurate.

  64. Bless you Courtenay.
    .
    Pamela Geller – Jihad Watch
    .
    ‘Drop an MOAB'{wiki [murder a thousand Palestinian children]

  65. Oh Teabaggers, always the victims. It’s not like Teabaggers posted the private address of Representative Tom Perriello brother encouraging people to ‘drop by’. A day later a gas line was found severed.
    .
    It was Sharron Angle that suggested second amendment remedies.
    lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jun/17/senate-race-armed-revolt-angles-rhetoric-candidate/
    .
    I don’t know why people think Teabaggers are racist, TeaParty.org founder and president Dale Robertson with a sign that said “Congress = Slaveowner, Taxpayer = Niggar”.
    .
    Springboro (Ohio) Tea Party founder Sonny Thomas posted a racial slur on the Springboro Tea Party Twitter webpage he managed “Illegals everywhere today! So many spics makes me feel like a speck. Grrr. Wheres my gun!?”
    .
    Rep. Emanuel Cleaver was spat on and heard people yelling ‘Nigger’ at health care protests.
    heraldnet.com/article/20100320/NEWS02/100329990
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    Oh and it was a Teabagger who first used Teabag as a verb, people against Teabaggers found it hilarious and ran with it.
    washingtonindependent.com/31868/scenes-from-the-new-american-tea-party
    .
    But honestly the worst thing about Teabaggers is that they just don’t get it. As made plainly clear in this blog posting. CM made clear in his first comment on this thread what he meant, but Teabaggers keep complaining and misunderstanding his intent. Teabaggers also have some legitimate concerns, however they blame the wrong people and embrace ‘solutions’ that exacerbate the problem even further. Reminds me of the Dylan song, ‘Only a Pawn in Their Game’.

  66. CheebaCow… you can continue to incorrectly stereotype Tea Partiers all you want.

    But ultimately you are lying, even if some the individual facts are true.

    One can take any *large* group of people who have been scrutinized in depth for a couple of years, and find some who will say stupid things. For example, there are plenty of examples of the left calling for violence in the US in the last year – often against Tea Partiers. There was a black Tea Partier who was beaten by SEIU thugs, for example.

    BTW, this one of your “facts” has been *thoroughly* debunked:

    Rep. Emanuel Cleaver was spat on and heard people yelling ‘Nigger’ at health care protests.
    heraldnet.com/article/20100320/NEWS02/100329990

    There were many recordings made of the event where a bunch of democrat representatives attempted to provoke a Tea Party crowd. NONE of them showed that language. If Cleaver had a valid complaint, where’s his video? It’s not like they didn’t try to provoke this behavior.

    I don’t keep track of all the spurious “facts” spread about Tea Partiers (who are NOT Teabaggers) so I won’t comment on all of your anecdotes.

    You don’t have a clue about who tea partiers are and how they think, as is clear from your posting.

    As long as you let your opinions be formed by media that is hostile to the Tea Party, you will continue to be an ignorant dupe.

    So, let’s get back on subject. Please tell me why this vicious European nationalist killer is “linked” to the Tea Party and why anyone should give a damn about such spurious “linkage.” Is the claim that the Tea Party leads people to such behavior? If so, why did it happen in Norway, while in the US where we are armed to the teeth and have plenty of nuts, it didn’t happen?

    No, this posting is nothing but a pathetic and noxious attempt to blame the Tea Party for the act of a classic *European* racist/nationalist.

  67. I don’t believe I am stereotyping, you asked for citations, I gave you some.
    .
    “But ultimately you are lying, even if some the individual facts are true.”
    .
    I love it. Amazing mental gymnastics you engage in.
    .
    “One can take any *large* group of people who have been scrutinized in depth for a couple of years, and find some who will say stupid things.”
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    Except most of my references were about leaders in the Teabagger movement. Rep Sharron Angle, TeaParty.org founder and president Dale Robertson and Springboro (Ohio) Tea Party founder Sonny Thomas.
    .
    “There were many recordings made of the event where a bunch of democrat representatives attempted to provoke a Tea Party crowd.”
    .
    Perhaps it is your turn to offer a single citation.
    .
    “If Cleaver had a valid complaint, where’s his video?”
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    I dunno, maybe he doesn’t walk around with a video camera in hand at all times.
    .
    “As long as you let your opinions be formed by media that is hostile to the Tea Party”
    .
    Except for Fox News, the highest rating news channel in the US. Oh poor Teabaggers, everyone is against them.
    .
    “No, this posting is nothing but a pathetic and noxious attempt to blame the Tea Party for the act of a classic *European* racist/nationalist.”
    .
    Ok I will spell it out for you. The point of this blog posting was that the ‘linkages’ between Teabaggers and the Norwegian madman are as tenuous as many links used to condemn and jail Muslims. Got it?
    .
    “A South politician preaches to the poor white man
    “You got more than the blacks, don’t complain.
    You’re better than them, you been born with white skin,” they explain.
    And the Negro’s name
    Is used it is plain
    For the politician’s gain
    As he rises to fame
    And the poor white remains
    On the caboose of the train
    But it ain’t him to blame
    He’s only a pawn in their game”

  68. “maybe he doesn’t walk around with a video camera in hand at all times”

    Pretty lame. This event was well documented – you can find it if you look outside the lefty-sphere. The congressmen purposefully went through the middle of a big crowd of Tea Partiers hoping to be insulted. Then they claimed racial harassment to an eager media. In spite of all the media present, the congressmen and all their aides who knew they were being provocative, nobody can show a single video of any racist epithet.

    The whole thing is a lie. You are perpetrating that lie. Put up or shut up.

    Your repeated use of the term teabaggers is obviously an attempt to cause offense. So, enjoy being an offensive twit.

    And if you think Muslims (at least in the US) have been jailed for links this tenuous, you are dreaming.

    It is a *fact* that most acts of terrorism in the world, and in the US and Europe, are carried out by Muslim jihadists. You can deny and hem and haw all you want, but there’s nothing “racist” or whatever about stating that fact. It is a fact that a jihadist group claimed responsibility for this heinous crime – because they thought it was a Muslim who did it and they were so pleased with the deaths of innocents. When they discovered it wasn’t a Muslim, they had to retract their claim.

    It is a fact that freedom of speech in the US, England, Denmark and other countries is in great jeopardy because of the threats from Muslim extremists, threats that polls show are approved of by large percentages of Muslims in the middle east and Europe.

    It is a fact that many Muslims deny most basic rights to women, and are allowed to get away with it by the same lefties who scream to high heaven if a European offers any slight to females.

    It is a fact that anti-Semitism is rising rapidly in Europe, where of all places, people ought to knw better. It is also a fact that anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant sentiment is rising rapidly there – partly due to the governments in Europe letting the more extreme Muslim views gain ascendancy – and that sentiment in Europe is among groups far more dangerous than the American right, where we still believe in due process and democracy.

    It is also a fact that most people recognize that not all Muslims are jihadists, but it is also a fact that many on the left seek to portray the right (“far right”) as being of the same ilk as the jihadists. Nice tactic to use on your ideological enemies, but bigoted stereotyping.

  69. Expert (didn’t get the name) on BBC ‘News’ this morning was asked what connection there might be between events in Norway and global terrorism. He obliged with a new and expanded definition of terrorism which I am sure we can expect to become current. Even if Breivik acted alone (says he) it’s terrorism if he had a declared agenda and/or reason to believe that he had the support of others for his opinions.

  70. Mary: “Norway is forgotten now on Sky News and BBC News.”
    .
    Utter lying bullshit. I’ve just gone to the BBC website and the Norway killings is the top story.
    .
    “They are competing to find the most sensational and gossipy commentators on Amy Winehouse who was found dead two hours ago.”
    .
    I actually didn’t even know this until now. Enough of the compassion, oh compassionate one!
    .
    “Pure muck rakers.”
    .
    A muck raker is someone who clears away muck to reveal the real story. What’s wrong with that?
    .
    “Guess what the headlines will be tomorrow.”
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    BBC’s top headline is “Norway gunman ‘defends’ shootings”

  71. Disgusted
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    ”It is a *fact* that most acts of terrorism in the world, and in the US and Europe, are carried out by Muslim jihadists.”
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    This was obviously the work of the jihads: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/apr/02/omagh-booby-trap-bomb-policeman-killed
    .
    If the police had only assumed this was a crazy Muslim from the beginning, what with the attempted ‘honour killing’, …. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10525738
    .

    Cho Seung-hui was really a deep cover al-Qaeda agent…
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/17/usa.highereducation
    .

  72. ‘Anders Brehing Breivik took part in online discussions with members of the EDL and other anti-Islamic groups’
    .
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/23/norway-attacks-utoya-gunman

  73. “Someone more technically proficient than me might want to grab a screenshot before the list vanishes.”
    .
    I’ve mentioned it here before but here it is again. If you’re a Firefox user, there’s an add-on called Zotero. It’s for researchers who need to classify and store references to web sites. It is easy to use and can capture web pages complete with links. It can also extract authors, publishers, citation strings etc. where the pages are structured for this (as they will be on academic sites).
    .
    Off topic, but good: a succinct analysis of why continuing energy growth (and therefore economic growth) is impossible.
    .
    http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/2011/07/galactic-scale-energy/

  74. Disgusted:
    .
    “The congressmen purposefully went through the middle of a big crowd of Tea Partiers hoping to be insulted.”
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    If you consider a Congressman walking through a crowd in the United States Capital provocation, you have a mighty low opinion of your fellow Teabaggers.
    .
    “Put up or shut up.”
    .
    I have provided multiple sources for my claims, you have yet to offer one despite my previous request.
    .
    “Your repeated use of the term teabaggers is obviously an attempt to cause offense. So, enjoy being an offensive twit.”
    .
    I’ll admit I do enjoy baiting people, probably a trait learned from my god father. I do find it amusing how incensed Teabaggers get about the term. It’s hardly the worst thing to be called, in fact some people rather enjoy the act. The racism (which the Teabagger leadership engaged in) I cited previously is far more offensive than the Teabagging joke (which as I pointed out earlier, was self inflicted).
    .
    “It is a *fact* that most acts of terrorism in the world, and in the US and Europe, are carried out by Muslim jihadists.”
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    A fact eh? Got any kinda source for that? As I pointed out in the Islamophobia thread, according to Interpol, terrorism in the EU between 2006-2010, Islamist terrorism accounts for about .5-1% of attacks in Europe.
    .
    “It is a fact…. It is a fact…. It is a fact”
    .
    Yet not a single source from someone who complains others don’t cite their sources.
    .
    “Nice tactic to use on your ideological enemies, but bigoted stereotyping.”
    .
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

  75. Angry From the time of the discovery of Amy’s body after 4pm, both channels in tandem (do they collude?) switched to coverage of that story. About three hours later they returned to the Norway killings. Sky broke the news first and the BBC followed suit. Do not tell me what I saw and heard with my own eyes. What is your point anyway?
    .
    The religious programme on Radio 4 this morning, Sunday, planted quite a few anti-Islam seeds in the listeners’ minds this morning. A range of topics was covered, a Republican conference in America, a conference at Lambeth Palace where the Anglican and Catholic Archbishops have been discussing the decline of Christianity in the Middle East,etc.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b012qmfh#synopsis

  76. Mary,

    You should have been listening to the World Service, you could have heard me pontificate!

  77. Can we listen again Craig? What was the programme? Sometimes they are repeated too.

    My comment to Angry should have ended ‘

  78. ….Do not tell me what I saw with my own eyes and heard with my own ears. !!

    Boy Hague is on Marr sounding self important and reassuring the Norwegians that they can be assured of our assistance as we have so much experience in these matters. blah blah Completely odious slimeball.

  79. ‘English Defence League members attend New York mosque protest’
    .
    ‘At least seven EDL supporters take part in demonstration after far-right group’s leader is reportedly turned away at airport’ Sept, 2010.
    .
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/sep/12/english-defence-league-mosque-protest
    .

  80. Max Blumenthal has something to say here:
    .
    ‘Anders Behring Breivik, a perfect product of the Axis of Islamophobia’
    .
    ”When I wrote my analysis last December on the “Axis of Islamophobia,” laying out a new international political network of right-wing ultra-Zionists, Christian evangelicals, Tea Party activists and racist British soccer hooligans, I did not foresee a terrorist like Anders Behring Breivik emerging from the movement’s ranks. At the same time, I am not surprised that he did. The rhetoric of the characters who inspired Breivik, from Pam Geller to Robert Spencer to Daniel Pipes, was so eliminationist in its nature that it was perhaps only a matter of time before someone put words into action.”
    .
    http://maxblumenthal.com/2011/07/anders-behring-breivik-a-perfect-product-of-the-axis-of-islamophobia/

  81. “Boy Hague is on Marr sounding self important and reassuring the Norwegians that they can be assured of our assistance as we have so much experience in these matters.”
    .
    Yes, but what does he have to say about Amy Winehouse, Mary?

  82. Pete Charles

    24 Jul, 2011 - 9:58 am

    When will I be reading anywhere in the news that these terrorist attacks served Israel?

    This attack came 65 years to the day of the King David Hotel terrorist attacks.

  83. Pete Charles:
    .
    Not exactly airtight evidence.
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    youtube.com/watch?v=7tXK5atEuTA

  84. Angry. I switched him off. Cannot stick his politics, his face or his croaky voice. Remember he has joined the list of war criminals now along with Cameron and Fox.

  85. ” ‘I am not surprised that he did. The rhetoric of the characters who inspired Breivik, from Pam Geller to Robert Spencer to Daniel Pipes, was so eliminationist in its nature that it was perhaps only a matter of time before someone put words into action.’ ”
    (Max Blumenthal, via Andy).
    .
    I agree. It’s precisely what I was saying last night.

  86. “Media Reacts to News That Norwegian Terror Suspect Isn’t Muslim”
    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/07/media-reacts-news-norwegian-terror-suspect-isnt-muslim/40322/

  87. From the link I posted above:
    .
    “Additionally, Ibrahim Hewitt writes an editoral at Al-Jazeera, where he observes that once media outlets noted that the suspect was not Muslim, they disassociated connections between the suspect’s beliefs and his alleged violent actions.

    “… the perpetrator was a “blond, blue-eyed Norwegian” with “political traits towards the right, and anti-Muslim views.” Not surprisingly, the man’s intentions were neither linked to these “traits,” nor to his postings on “websites with Christian fundamentalist tendencies.” Any influence “remains to be seen”; echoes of Oklahoma 1995. Interestingly, this criminal is described by one unnamed Norwegian official as a “madman.”

    … Anyone who claims therefore, that the perpetrator’s “right-wing traits” and “anti-Muslim views,” or even links with “Christian fundamentalist” websites are irrelevant is trying to draw a veil over the unacceptable truths of such “traits” and expecting us to believe that right-wing ideology is incapable of prompting someone towards such criminality. Of course, that idea is nonsensical. Right-wing ideology was behind the Holocaust; it has been behind most anti-Semitism and other racism around the world; the notion of Europe’s and Europeans’ racial superiority — giving cultural credibility to the far-right — gave rise to the slave trade and the scramble for Africa leading to untold atrocities against “the Other”; ditto in the Middle and Far East.”

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