The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
James
After searching on linkedin, pipl, fb, twitter and many more sites for this topic and searching many related topics, I believe that intelligence clean teams work different than we would expect they do.
1, they are aware that it is simply impossible even for them to clean the web completely from names and history.
2) so what is the solution on that?
A. Clean the critical parts that are easy to clean, e.g. Twitter, facebook and compromising media articles as well as compromising linkedin history. Just see about how WBM’s and Ali al Hilli’s linkedin had been updated since then.
B. Add fake characters with the same or similar names to confuse people like us who want to know more. As soon as you get 3 fake characters with the same name and similar education, you are lost and frustrated. We have several Sylvain Molliers, several Saad al Hillis, several Maya Alons, ben alon, ben zygier, etc. Lots of fake pages up in linkedin. What’s the right one and is there even one of those pages correct?
James, I believe that the guy in Claygate was Saad al Hilli. They have a confirmed family ancestry that is well documented and the photos look like as he were Ali al Hillis twin. There is no reason to doubt that he was him. What we can be suspicious about is the Dutch character since he has no history and no parents.
It is possible that the Dutch character is fake but shows some of zhe real history of Saad’s work. That would make some kind of sense to me as it would totally confuse private and media investigations.
“Confuse them with fake alter egos” seems to be a tactic of intelligence teams. Didn’t we have a lot of Saddam alter egos too? And how many bin Ladens had we seen on TV? We have alter egos in the Didier John case, in Sandy Hook and in the Zygier case! Why shouldnt we have alter egos in the al Hilli case? We got them. We have fake Molliers and fake Saads, but a little part of every fake website is part of the truth. Just enough truth to confuse us but fake enough to debunk everything what we might find that they had forgot to delete.
Oh … James, i forgot to mention that linkedin is owned by the same people who own Allot. So it should be easy for them to update and add sites and names there, as many as they would wish and need to add ….
James
Why would this guy be linked to the Dutch Saad al Hilli? I thought he were Iraqi and a scientist …
That link is via a French guy …
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/salem-mezugi/4b/2ba/303
Does that link really belong to the dutch fake or is it rather valid for our real Saad from Claygate?
Or had Saad’s documents been used for a Mossad alter ego?
You know, like all those passports were used by Mossad agents in Dubai for their alter egos.
Did the wrong Saad al Hilli die because an agent used his name, his education and his history as a cover up for secret ops? This has a timely coincidence with Libya and Dubai. And it has a link with Libyan IT and air security. And a Libyan-Dubai link to the fake Saad al Hilli alter ego …
Simply because this guy is from Dubai and Saad was in Dubai:
http://ae.linkedin.com/pub/wadih-hanka/28/763/615
Now they could easily debunk those contacts because this is the Dutch Saad. However, the Dutch Saad does not have parents nor grandparents. An orphan? Or is he using the real Saad’s alter ego and IDs? Or is he just a fake linkedin page to confuse us?
James
All those Libyan intelligence and IT guys are linked to Saad al Hilli (Dutch). Two central links are two French guys. One is an administrator of a French private hospital (what could be a covert for a french intelligence guy) and the other one is that guy:
Guilhem Roger
Deputy economic counselor at the French Embassy in Libya
http://www.linkedin.com/in/guilhemroger
Did he use Saad al Hilli (the Dutch alter ego) for that project in 2006 described on his linkedin and he is therefore linked? But wait, the Dutch alter ego has no satellite education, does he?
Organisation assistant
Thales Alenia Space
Privately Held; 10,001+ employees; IT und Services industryJuly 2006 – July 2006 (1 month)Assistant to the head of logistics to organise Thales Toulouse Open Days, 2006.- Organisation and logistics of visits and animations.- Centralization of informations for the Communication department’s event publicity needs.-
!!!!!!!
Creation of a video « explaining » satellites and of a quiz for children.
!!!!!!!
Don’t waste much time on it, but it’s a fascinating story of an Irish super-scamster who conned all the so-called top security experts, UK & US.
RED DEFENCE INTERNATIONAL LIMITED
THE BEECHES HENLEY PARK, COBBETT HILL ROAD,
NORMANDY GUILDFORD SURREY GU3 2BZ
Dissolved as of 17 Feb 2013
Also 113A JERMYN STREET LONDON SW1Y
Oakley International Group LLC, Washington, D.C. (Not the Sunglass and Red Camera company).
RYECROFT CONSULTANTS SA v. HALLIGEN et al :: Justia Dockets …
KEVIN RICHARD HALLIGEN, OAKLEY INTERNATIONAL GROUP, LLC and OAKLEY STRATEGIC SERVICES, LLC
Note: Halligen is sometimes spelled Halligan in UK.
Best summary:
http://www.internationalextraditionblog.com/tag/red-defence-international/
INKERMAN (GROUP) LIMITED
INKERMAN HOUSE, 3-4 ELWICK ROAD
ASHFORD KENT TN23 1PF
“Kevin Halligen, a smooth-talking Irishman who claimed to have worked for covert British government intelligence agency GCHQ. He claimed to have worked for GCHQ, but in fact he was employed by the Atomic Energy Authority (AEA) as head of defence systems in the rather less glamorous field of new information technology, researching the use of ‘special batteries’.”
“Byrne and Weber Shandwick are also members of the Global Security Alliance a platform developed by German software giants, SAP as an information and knowledge exchange between the leading security and risk management providers. Other members of the Alliance include Control Risks Group, Kroll, Aegis and Erinys International, whose CEO, Major General John Holmes worked alongside Kevin Halligen at Inkerman during the period 2002-2004.
The Alliance’s website describes a broad range of tasks that include ‘security esthetics, symbolic and mental defense, consensual manipulation, deep structural analysis and artistic personal protection’. Weber Shandwick also came under scrutiny when it was learned that the company was able to deploy 75 crisis management professionals around the country in support of American Airlines within minutes of the 9/11 crashes, leading to sepculation that they may have been acting on warnings provided beforehand. The claim was made on the company’s website.”
“George Tenet: another prominent and influential member of the UK’s Special Forces Club in Knightsbridge which Kevin Halligen and John Holmes enjoyed too. Holmes was very much a part of the Litvinenko/Berezovsky circle and Halligen was reguarly seen tippling at the Hey Jo Club. Both the Hey Jo Club and Holmes’ Grosvenor Street offices tested positive for Polonium – and contributed to Police knowledge of Litvinenko’s final movements. The Abracadabra Club on the same premises is a Russian Restaurant – owned by the same guy.
Halligen lived a few doors away and set up several companies with Holmes shortly after they left Inkerman (named after the famous Crimean battle in which Britian fought Imperial Russia)”
Special Forces Club
8 Herbert Crescent, London SW1X 0EZ
Basement Vaults (May just be a residence)
9 Herbert Crescent, London SW1X 0EZ
“Arbor created ATLAS, a collaborative project with more than 230+ service providers who have agreed to share anonymous Internet traffic data with Arbor’s Security Engineering & Response Team — ASERT. This data, totaling 35Tbps, is enhanced by Arbor’s global honeypot network of 45+ sensors in the dark, unused address space of provider customer networks. That information is aggregated, analyzed by our ASERT team and fed back to our customers in the form of attack signatures, via our product deployments.”
How close could the al Hilli assassination and the Benghazi killings have been with all those Libyan contacts? How close (timrly apart from each other) did they happen in September.
But wait, they can debunk this link because the Libyan contacts are on the Dutch Saad al Hilli’s site. The question will be whether or not we accept their game of alter egos or else we simply try to be as smart as them.
BLUE….
Funny you should mention that guy (the Libyan) as…
http://ae.linkedin.com/pub/wadih-hanka/28/763/615?trk=pub-pbmap
If you go from Deena Al Hilli, you find Ali Al Hilli (of a DXB contracting company “Al Diwan”)…and from him you get Wadih Hanka, the above guy.
He’s Head of IT Dept at the Libyan Embassy in UAE.
If Leonardo is killed in France, who gets access to his LinkedIn page so quickly ?
we “know” there are only three.
Two are rubbish…one is the Netherlands guy (the “orphan”).
Al Hilli, the contractor, who conviently works at a company local to his home ! And he doesn’t have a “LinkedIn” page !
All contracors in “IT” or “Tech” have a LinkedIn page…except for Leonardo !
Now SSTL are a funny bunch. They don’t give interviews about Al Hilli, but they release a statement.
No press are there to take pictures of “the police attend SSTL to talk about Al Hilli”.
…and the only guy that I found who has mention him and who worked at SSTL….was some “first line support” dude that finished his contract in Jan 2011. (Hardly long enough to meet Al Hilli)
James
Spy alert!
Yesterday and even early today there were still the two linkedin pages of the orphan Dutch Saad al Hilli available.
I just checked and now there is only one. His second one is gone. Nada. That was the page with those interesting Libyan IT and intelligence links.
So we are left with an empty supervised Saad al Hilli Claygate linkedin page and with a fake and useless Dutch Saad al Hilli linkedin page. The interesting Dutch Saad al Hilli page was removed less than 12 hours after I posted the Libyan and French intelligence connection of the Dutch Saad al Hilli.
This page existed since september 5th and somebody removed it only 12 hours after we started to discuss the Libyan IT and intelligence linked to the Dutch orphan Saad and the Benghazi link here. i believe that this was coincidence, was it? OMG!
So here is Sa’ad Al Hilli (Holland). With picture and CV.
http://people.bayt.com/saad-alhilli/
Founder of Affinity & Associates b.v.
And in 2007 – 2011 he was Project Manager of AIS introduction in The Netherlands – Ministry of Transport & waterways.
It’s funny how people keep saying “ship tracking” in relation to Sa’ad. And this Dutch Sa’ad did just that.
But from Jan 2012, he is looking for another project.
Wonder if he found one ?
I need help of somebody with good French and logic.
I am trying to find a key about why “Association Marie-Ange Mottier”is related to Libyan IT,security and intelligence as well as to Saad al Hilli?
My French is too basic to understand everything about what this Association is doing. Basically i got the idea that Jimmy Savile could have been a regular visitor there, but my French is too bad to be sure that this is what it seems to be.
James
Your people.bayt link above is also dead for me. 🙁
The third Saad al Hilli linkedin, however, appears now again, but this time with one contact less. The French administrator of Marie-Ange Mottier Ass. disappeared from his linkedin list on the right. Because he is French and because he “disappeared” while that linkedin site was offline, he is the one I am interested in. He is still listed on the page of Wadih Hanka, though.
James, all Saad al Hilli links on people.baytare dead.
It is still on google but a dead link:
Google search results:
Affinity & Associates b.v – People | Bayt.com
people.bayt.com/…/search-results/?…Saad Al-Hilli · Founder and Managing Partner Affinity & Associates b.v Netherlands
However, i found another site where it still appears:
http://www.naymz.com/saadal-hilli2794511
Make a screen copy! Otherwise it will be gone probably too quickly ….
Logica!
The orphan “Dutch” Saad al Hilli worked for this British company.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logica
Read the history and the projects of this company. It is exciting. They are exavtly the company “our” Saad should have worked for. Word by word this is exactly what we know of Saad al Hilli as his education and work. We have IT, security, CERN, joint ventures with French companies, and satellites software and satellites earth control here.
How far is Reading from Claygate. Didnt Iqbal work in Reading, too?
The Dutch orphan:
I worked with Sa’ad a long time ago – when we were both working for Logica. He was one of the few people I have known in a sales role who was able to get on with both clients and technical staff – achieving great results, customer satisfaction ad fun projects to work on.- Reinier Sjouw (14.10.09)
About Sa’ad Al-Hilli
Sáad Al-Hilli have a successful International track record in the Information Technology market. Initiating, creating, developing, organising and rolling out of profitable and strategic business streams. People manager, motivator and achiever with business vision who successfully manage to get the best out of his organisation, blended with a maximum utilisation and effective management of external partners and Technology trends to address market needs. In 1999 started Affinity and Associates, a new company with a difference. The focus of this new initiative is to concentrate on adding values to organisations business streams in the fields of Sales & Marketing, Interim Management, Project and Program management, Intermediation, Coordination and E-Commerce. Sáad Al-Hilli entertains and practice a high level of ethical and professional values.
Professional History
Employment:Jul 2007-PresentConsultant/ implementor at Ministry of Transport & waterwaysJän 1999-PresentManaging partner & Owner at Affinity & AssociatesJän 1985-Jän 1999Consultant/ Commercial Director-Government division at Logica b.v…Jän 1980-Jän 1985Information Manager at Frederic R Harris
This is the guy who said that he had worked with Saad al Hilli (the Dutch “orphan”) at Logica. Logica is a company with its headquarters in Reading (UK).
http://nl.linkedin.com/pub/reinier-sjouw/1/378/477
Reinier Sjouw
Project Manager at Ministry of Defence
I’m still reading along but nothing to add except….
NR
RED DEFENCE INTERNATIONAL LIMITED
THE BEECHES HENLEY PARK, COBBETT HILL ROAD,
NORMANDY GUILDFORD SURREY GU3 2BZ
The 2007 Surrey Foot and Mouth Outbreak was from that vicinity:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_Kingdom_foot-and-mouth_outbreak
Blue….No way !
The “orphan” worked near to “Leonardo” ???
“Hello I’m Sa’ad Al Hilli…and you are ?”
“I’m Sa’ad Al Hilli”
And get this….what experience did the “orphan” have with satellites ?
Quite alot actually ! Mainly ORBCOMM I’d guess.
“Port authorities were some of the first to identify the benefit of the satellite AIS service. The Port of Rotterdam in the Netherlands quickly took advantage of the new global AIS information. Data, including ORBCOMM satellite AIS information, are supplied to port officials via ORBCOMM partner LuxSpace Sarl (Betzdorf, Luxembourg) and Royal Dirkzwager (Maassluis, Netherlands)”.
http://www.sea-technology.com/features/2011/0311/ais_system.php
And what about SSTL ?
Surrey Satellite Technology Limited (SSTL) has delivered eighteen SGR-10 GPS receivers to Sierra Nevada Corporation (SNC) of the USA to provide on-board orbit determination for the ORBCOMM Generation 2 (OG2) satellites.
http://www.sstl.co.uk/News-and-Events/2009-News-Archive?story=1498
Blue.
FYI…..
Founder and Managing Partner
at Affinity & Associates b.v
Location: Netherlands ,
Company Industry: Government Sector
Job Role: Management
January 1999 – December 2012
1999- Present: Affinity & Associates b.v.
Since its inception the Company have showed excellent performance and profit.
Founder and Managing Partner – Current activities and achievement are:
1. Successful set up of E-commerce unit in collaboration with… See more
1999- Present: Affinity & Associates b.v.
Since its inception the Company have showed excellent performance and profit.
Founder and Managing Partner – Current activities and achievement are:
1. Successful set up of E-commerce unit in collaboration with another company in the Dutch market; This initiative has within six months managed to become self -sufficient and have acquired an important client base;
2. Project Management of a rollout and migration of a complex ICT project for the inland waterways authority in the Netherlands;
3. Managing a successful bid for a large European project that involved 44 partners;
4. Project Bureau manager for the above-mentioned project: managing planning, progress and financial control and Quality Assurance and standards;
5. Advice on the setting up and monitoring progress of a challenging project for a Municipality authority;
6. Review and planning of a number of projects;
7. Contract negotiations and management;
8. Supply of resources from our Associates pool of relations;
9. Strategic advice to a small ICT company on their market positioning and future business focus and plans;
10. Strategic advice to a central government organization on their ICT policy;
11. Strategic plan for the roll-out of RIS (River Information services) in Europe;
12. Successful roll-out of the introduction of AIS on inland vessels in the Netherlands
Point 12.
Inland AIS ?
Must be the same satellites I guess.
James
I was suggesting that the “Dutch Orphan” was(!!) Leonardo.
Not two but one and several different characters on the www. Just like Maya Alon and Taria Schwartzmann/Devanderschueren (dutch alter ego once again).
James, a question for you out of curiosity:
Could a helicopter (the one Peter Barnes was flying) go from Surrey to TheHague or is that distance too long? And if he could, what time would it take to travel and how much would this approx. cost?
James thanks for the intrresting details about his company Affinity and Ass.
However, when we look at what Logica (Reading, UK) had done, then it is getting even better: also note the countries mentioned there …)
established a network linking research centres in a number of European Countries, including CERN, the French research centre INRIA and the UK’s National Physical Laboratory
At this time Logica set up operating subsidiaries in the Netherlands, Australia, Sweden, the United States and elsewhere as well as joint ventures in Hong Kong with Jardine Matheson, in Italy with Finsiel and in the UK with British Airways.
In 2001 the Company secured an outsourcing contract to create and operate a new case management system for the Crown Prosecution Service
In 1984 the Company developed the automated clearing system for the UK banks (CHAPS)[3] as well as the customer service system for British Telecom
Early projects included the control system for the natural gas grid in the UK in 1971 and the design of the SWIFT network for international money transfers in 1973
Logica is a management consultancy, outsourcing and IT services and solutionscompany.[24] Its activities include:Supporting the missions of over 150 orbiting satellites.[25]Processing more than $100 billion of salaries globally each year.[26]Supporting 300 telecoms operators in 130 countries.
Yep, it could do that in terms of range.
BUT you would be heading out across sea. He would therefore need extra training/rating and extra kit onboard that wouldn’t be standard in case it has an engine failure.
I would even guess that they would have to be “suited and booted” to fly that route….just in case you end up going for a swim !
Cost wise, I dunno.
Probably a couple of grand….and that’s if (IF) he found a company that were willing to take him, which I am guessing is doubtful.
Blue…..
So…..the “missing years of Leonardo” could likely (if not actually, “actually”) have been with Logica ?
And what are the chances of two people, with identical names, working in “identical” projects (that being “satellites”) ?
This “Sa’ad” could be “the Sa’ad” ?
If that’s the case (we still have “Why ?”) then “Who’s the fella in the BMW ?”
The other thing about the “orphan” is that he is from Iraq (way back when), but educated throughout in England.
And that in Jan 2012, he is looking for “new opportunities”.
He would know of SSTL…from the Inland AIS, so could have gone there.
I repeat my question since my French isnt good enough and google translate doesnt me enlighten either.
Is this a place where we could have met the likes of Jimmy Savile?
http://www.laclairiere.asso.fr/
I wonder why the admin of this association was removed from the al Hilli linkedin site today (while it was down for some time) and i wonder why the admin of this assosiation is deeply in contact with Libyan IT and intelligence people. Maybe it has to do with the business nature of that association and it is just coincidence. But maybe there is more. That’s why i would like to know what they are doing …
James, absolutely.
If they joined one human corps, then we must know whether or not the Dutch “orphan” is still alive. If he is alive then it could be his alter ego using his papers and ID for intelligence purposes (just like the Dubai Mossad agents did). If he is dead, then that linkedin site is an alter ego site to confuse investigations.
I said before: on the internet it is better and easier to add fake sites with fake egos rather than trying to delete everything. Deleting everything is impossible, but adding fake leads investigation to nothing and can easily get debunked. That is why we have so many linkedin pages of Maya Alin and Ben Zygier. Pick one, but which one? There are truth and lies mixed up in each of those. And so it had happened with Saad.
I can’t follow what it is….but it sounds right up a french Jimmy’s street !
A “private non profit making hospital”….but then this also.
The association celebrated its 100 years
Established since 1911 in the 2nd arrondissement of Paris, Rue Grenata, The Clearing Association fight against social exclusion and occupational prevention
2000 Annual accompaniments to the insertion As explained its CEO Gilles Petit-Gats, each year the association serves more than two thousand people to the insertion, via the mobilization of some two hundred participants in the project (46 to 160 employees volunteers) in the context of “transforming the logic of exclusion logic of inclusion.”
The Clearing missions are organized around five, starting with the social center – historical activity of the association – which includes welcoming people in difficulty and guide towards autonomy by gateways integration and French courses.
Under the Pole “Prevention specialist” street educators go to meet young people without support in the areas of Les Halles, Montorgueil and Saint-Denis in the objective to develop projects with them and living employability.
Twenty positions were created within the cluster “integration through social economy”, which is in three areas: the provision of removal and storage (Work to Clear), second services implemented in private building and associations (Bat’ire) and a caterer solidarity for communities and individuals (A Gourmand World, which showcases the cultural talents of employees and account including the mayor of Paris, the French comedy or company Vinci among its clients).
Blue
Quote.
“I said before: on the internet it is better and easier to add fake sites with fake egos rather than trying to delete everything”
Totally agree. And I think this is what has happened here.
Throw in a “proper Dee Notice” and it’s “Job Done”.
No one can report on “Sa’ad Al Hilli” so everyone reports “speculation”.
Even better as everyone is speculating about the wrong fella !
So the “Orphan” is educated in England….
…and sets up his contracting Co in 1999.
Before that he goes contacting he works at “Logica’s Govt Division”
Jan 1985-Jan 1999.
Before that “Frederic R Harris”
Jan 1980-Jan 1985
Fredric R Harris are now AECOM….and AECOM are rebuilding One, World Trade Centre (or is that Center !) that the government knocked down a few years ago.
http://www.aecom.com/News/World+Trade+Center
AND…….
They also run Iraq ! I am not kidding you either.
“The AECOM team assist in the essential task to empower the Iraq’s Parliament – known as the Council of Representatives (COR) – to actively contribute to the policymaking process and vigorously oversee the executive. Working directly with the COR in Baghdad, we support it to develop the tools and procedures necessary for this task”.
http://www.aecom.com/Where+We+Are/Middle+East/Government/_projectsList/Iraq+Legislative+Strengthening+Program
So “Leonardo” was formely the Info Officer for the company that is ruling Iraq….and rebuilding one of the towers the Americans knocked down to start the Iraq War in the first place.
That’s funny. Wonder if Eric knows this !
Probably !