The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
What our options to trace the actual paper records (non Online) employment records etc?
If we get knock backs for actual records we should know there is something wrong.
I need to ask my contacts in journalism to find if there is an actual d-notice.
I am being pushed into thinking that Saad was part of a cell or illegal officer for a foreign Intelligence agency in the UK, probably recruited before or during his trip to Dubai or Iran (if that happened), I will even go so far as believe that this was a marriage of convenience, the cover in the UK would be better that way to avoid suspicion! He was watched by Mi5 according to his neighbours and may have been foiled, if the reason for them being foiled was smuggling into Iran then UK SS would probably outsource the hit! As we don’t do assassinations!
About the possible French Jimmy Savile location.
I tried to find pedo links of Libya. There are some interesting things. Some might be lies, some off topic, but interesting reads. Why would a french infants assosiation be linked with libyan intelligence and IT and with the Dutch SAH? Did Stevens find documents in Benghazi that were dangerous for the Royalties and for the city of London? Why is the Dutch SAH linked to Marie-Ange Mottier children association? Why are this association and SAH Dutch both linked to Libyan intelligence??
http://dimensionalbliss.com/2011/03/11/qadhafi-libya-seen-from-another-angle/
http://www.mathaba.net/news/pda.shtml?x=581226?related
King Idras was descended from this royal/religious house and was seen as the Chief of the Senussi Muslim order.He was King of Libya from 1951 to 1969 when he was deposed by the Libyan army under the leadership of Muammar al-Gaddafi in a coup.King Idras was just about to abdicate, in favor of his nephew, Crown Prince Hasan as-Senussi.My husband, Gunther was with the CIA at the time. Longtime readers of RMNews know that Gunther was a member of Faction Two, a worldwide group of exiled royals who oppose the City of London, and their worldwide banking cartels.A member of Gunther’s group told me that the real reason that the people of Libya wanted to be rid of the King was because he did nothing to stop the new world order pedophiles from raiding Libya for sex slaves.
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2011/10/cia-brainwashing-muammar-gaddafi.html?m=1
Just following up now the reasons the late anders7777 was originally telling us. Those links on linkedin would not make any sense otherwise, would they? And why was this Marie-Ange guy removed from the SAH linkedin page today?
Somerhing else regarding Swedish Hezbollah with links to France and London.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/02/21/world/europe/in-cyprus-trial-man-says-hezbollah-scouted-israeli-targets-in-europe.xml
Breaking with the group’s ironclad discipline and practiced secrecy, the operative, Hossam Taleb Yaacoub, described being handled by a masked man he knew only as Ayman. He told of doing simple tasks at first: picking up a couple of bags in Lyon, France, taking a cellphone, two SIM cards and a mysterious package wrapped in newspaper from Amsterdam to Lebanon.
Mr. Yaacoub, who has both Swedish and Lebanese passports, said that he had been a member of Hezbollah since 2007 and worked for the group for four years. He also ran a trading company in Lebanon. He had visited Cyprus in 2008 but first came for business in December 2011. Though he traded in shoes, clothing and wedding goods, he said, he was interested in branching out into importing fruit juice.
On June 26, 2012, he traveled to Sweden to renew his passport. He returned to Cyprus via Heathrow Airport in London. Ayman asked him to observe two locations, the parking lot and the Golden Arches hotel. He was also supposed to acquire two SIM cards for cellphones and to locate Internet cafes in Limassol and Nicosia.
In written testimony read in Greek by his interpreter, as he sat quietly beside her, Mr. Yaacoub described how he would be picked up in a van to meet with his handler, Ayman, and used code words to confirm his identity. “I never saw the face of Ayman because he was always wearing a mask,” Mr. Yaacoub said.
Bluebird, James, fascinating discussion you are having about our “Leonardo” da-Hilli. My meager contribution:
There being the Dutch orphan Sa’ad persona would help explain how the original Sa’ad could have morphed from a mere mechanical engineer – who could be designing plane’s “kitchen galleys” to a master of all trades, with deep knowledge in satellites (deep enough to get a paid job as contractor for ASSL), surveillance mapping, IT, computers and what not. Oh yes – all with a stint at Elekta, a company making medical lasers, where a :mechanical engineer”, who is good enough to get a contract, would likely have to be knowledgeable in opto-mechanical engineering, and/or biomedical device engineering – sub-specialties that are quite removed (light years away) from designing “kitchen galleys”. Plus there’s that stint – as a student? a trainee? at Rutherford Laboratories, where he might have possibly worked on what? accelerator designs? lasers? isotope separation? have we ever had a good lead for the specific area he was in?
Anyways, something appeared always wrong – to my eyes – with the Al-Hilli professional profile – it was just way too broad. Then there were those missing years – that’s highly problematic for a professional such as him, even if he did work on semi-classified projects. To be a successful technical consultant you need a transparent profile , since it’s a word-of-mouth business. How else would anyone know to hire him for a specific job? that is all the more true, given the sensitive nature of the areas he was in (it’s not like he was an engineer for a pipeline welding company!) AND coupled with an obvious Arabic name. He would have to have had a rock solid reputation with unique skills to stay afloat as a “free lancer”.
With more than one Sa’ad, the Dutch one being in IT (sort of) and satellites, such breadth could possibly be explained. An aside: your Dutch fellow has some funny stuff in his bio as you posted.Hhe is said to be concurrently employed (-to present) BOTH for the government (in management, no less!) AND a private company, Affinity & Associates that does work FOR the government. Now that would be a major conflict of interest, if there ever was one – what – he hired hims own company to do a job?
I think that those in charge of planting the Bios on-line are kind of careless. This overlap is a major red flag that something is not as it seems. It just wouldn’t happen in the real world, and nobody could possibly hope to get a decent lead on the basis of such a Bio, much less one with an Iraqi name!
As posted on CM in October 2012.
Tried to sort out Saad M al Hilli, (SE) Safaa M Al Hilli (NL), Saad K Al Hilli (GB)
Who is relevant here?
S M Al Hilli This is Safaa Al Hilli S.M.Al Hilli is mentioned re nano tech research in Sweden “Materials Science and Engineering R 56 (2007) 1–129”. “New materials for micro-scale sensors and actuators An engineering review” Stephen A. Wilson, Renaud P.J. Jourdain , Qi Zhang , Robert A. Dorey , Chris R. Bowen , Magnus Willander , Qamar Ul Wahab , Magnus Willander , Safaa M. Al-hilli*, Omer Nur , Eckhard Quandt , Christer Johansson , and 15 others (* Physical Electronics and Photonics, Physics Department, Gothenburg University, SE-412 96 Gothenburg, Sweden)
S M Al Hilli Then there is Saad Al Hilli / S.M.A.Al Hilli of these >>>> reports
Not necessary to read all the following lines. Given here for info only. Reports available online.
The question is over the name of the Saad Al Hilli of Claygate/Chevaline.
As his father was Khadim Al Hilli, then his full name is Saad K Al Hilli.
If correct he would not be the quality control editor of this series of EU funded satellite navigation reports? He would be S.K. Al Hilli? That was my thinking in October.
>>>INDRIS Inland Navigation Demonstrator for River Information Services. The project is a joint venture between national public authorities, the transport industry, the ICT-industry and research institutes from Austria, Germany, Belgium, France, Italy and the Netherlands. 144 pages Date: 12.01.01 Author(s): I.A.A. ten Broeke DGG/AVV, C.C. Glansdorp- Marine Analytics B.V./ Global Maritime B.V., C.P.M. Willems- AVV, S.M.A. Al-Hilli – Affinity & Associates B.V.
http://www.transport-research.info/web/common/fullsearch.cfm?q=hilli
>>>Technical Progress Report first year (2006) Lead organisation: Swedish Maritime Administration
MarNIS Work Packages – further development of technological components
(AIS, LRIT, Synthetic Aperture Radar, Broadband, Galileo/AIS/ ECDIS/Radar/VDR)
Document History 0.1 Final 2006-02-27Per Johan Ekelöf
1.0 QualityControl 05-03-2-2006 Sáad Al-Hilli
>>>Title: Broadband communication – Part 1: State of the Art (2006)
Project co-funded by the European Commission. Contractor: Telespazio S.p.A. – Italy
(Immarsat,Intelsat, Galileo, GPS, WLAN, VHF, ADSL).
1.5 QC Control 08-08-2006 Sáad Al-Hilli 2.0 Issue to the EC Sáad Al-Hilli
>>>Title: Final report on the MarNIS e-maritime architecture (2008)
Project co-funded by the European Commission. Contractor: Telespazio S.p.A. – Italy
(process, data labelling, organisation, flow charts, templates)
2.0 Quality Control 04-12.2008 Sáad Al-Hilli
raga3.sintef.no/MiTS/resources/D-HA3F_marnis.pdf
S M A Al Hilli of Affinity Associates from Google Nederland: Sa’ad Al-Hilli Jul 2007-Present Consultant/ implementor at Ministry of Transport & waterways Jan 1999-Present Managing partner & Owner at Affinity & Associates 1985-Jan 1999 Consultant/ Commercial Director-Government division at Logica b.v 1980-Jan 1985 Information Manager at Frederic R Harris
Bluebird, james – more on alter-egos:
If you checked (using google translate) the post from Yehuda Bello I brought up for the Ben Zygier story – one supposedly culled from his own private sources – you’d note that a key element in the story was that the Ben Zygier we know as prisoner X was not the Benjamin Zygier who helped “found” the company in Milano. One of X’s jobs for the Mossad was supposedly to provide cover for the Milano Ben, making pretend calls from Europe etc.
Now, mind you, one can’t totally believe this account either because Yehuda’s purpose is so clearly to uphold Mossad’s image and downplay any actual damage cause by X. Nonetheless, per my post above, and putting aside the rest of YB’s post, the possibility of Milano Ben being a fake persona is there – based on the divergence in job and skill set profiles. X was trained as a lawyer – in Australia, no? That’s a very far cry from one who’d be an IT and satellite communications filed, which is what the Milano firm was supposedly doing. Yes, they’d need legal help to help set things up, but rarely would such a company – unless very large – need an on-board legal expert, much less one who was not likely familiar with the intricacies of European corporate law. Mind you, I’d look a bit further away from Allot, simply based on the little information we got, though Allot could weel be the parent company for that little Milano subsidiary.
In any case, something with the Benjamin Zygier identity – the Milano Ben, never did quite add up. Though apparently, it added up well enough for the ASIO to drop that bit of information fo two reporters – 2 years apart? now, now….
Marlin….and indeed ALL…and of course Bluey The Bird !
“Affinity & Associates” is the contract company of “codename Orphan”
He set it up after he worked for Logica. I think it was 1999.
“Codename Loenardo” set up a contract company in Jan 2001
we have no idea where Leonardo previously worked.
Now I have found this (see link).
This was posted on the 6th of Sept, so it maybe the most recent thing there is relating to Al Hilli from linkedIn
However, this guy seems (at least I think !!!!) has made a mistake.
He has picked up on “Orphan Al Hilli” and (it appears) to have tied that in with “Leonardo Al Hilli”.
Chesk out the webpage. It reads.
“He has a linkedIn profile with details of him being a ‘consultant’ aerospace and aviation are mentioned as well as “172 connections” he has on there”.
But Orphan Al Hilli now has 136 ?
And Orphan does not consider himself “aerospace and aviation”.
“In 1999 started Affinity and Associates, a new company with a difference. The focus of this new initiative is to concentrate on adding values to organisations business streams in the fields of Sales & Marketing, Interim Management, Project and Program management, Intermediation, Coordination and E-Commerce”.
Now this is clearly about “Orphan” and not “Leonardo”.
“Affinity and Associates seems to be registered in Kingston-upon-Thames in London”.
Clearly not so. Shtech is.
I’ll write the next bit in annoying capitals…but it worth annoying everone as it is most important.
If this guy has got his facts mixed up, THEN THE “AL HILLI (LEONARDO)” LINKEDIN PAGE WAS ALREADY A DUD….ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE (alledged) KILLINGS IN CHEVALINE !
OR…BEFORE !!!
Why is that important ?
A contractor without a LinkedIn profile !
Simply NOT possible.
@Ricki Tarr: Who better to smuggle than someone who could alter incoming information via satellite from ship-tracking GPS transmitters? All the better if someone could tamper with port computers. Even more convenient if a shipping logistics and ferry company were handling things on the other end.
Oops…forgot the link.
http://www.rantonuk.org.uk/british-based-iraqi-and-his-family-die-by-execution-in-france/
And Q
A very good point. And one I am considering.
We know that there IS trade between Iran and the rest of the world.
Ben Z was doing it.
Was Al Hilli controlling it ????
Now …here’s the next thought !
IF you are shipping BIG stuff to Iran would it be possible for that ship to “vanish” on the screens ?
If you had the power of AECOM in Iraq ?
If you had control of the satellites via SSTL ?
If you knew how the system onboard ships (AIS) worked ?
Means and opportunity !
And motive supplied by The Israeli Regime.
You have basically secured your conflict for the future
OR started a war (when you deide to)
NOW THAT IS WORTH KILLING OVER !
james – that’s interesting about the wrong LinkedIn being picked up per the link you gave. On CM and MZT too there was quite a bit about the “Aerospace and Aviation” link to Al Hilli. Clearly this was the Orphan not Lenonardo. And clearly it was there on September 6, ready to be picked up.
Oliphant was kind enough to go back to the earlier days when speculations and facts were flying every-which-way. I do think that we need to revisit everything we thought we knew about Sa’ad – especially his occupation(s) and professional background – since it is now obvious there was cross-contamination with the fake. I do recall fro example references to Leonardo being set up with planes and what not to get his company going. Now why would a “Mechanical Engineer’ need those planes? for more kitchen galleys? No wonder Leonardo was such a Da Vinci! with Iqbal as his mona Lisa too! does it get any better than this?
Tim V – we need you here to help sort flak from chaff (is that the expression?). I think it may be time for another timeline of our mystery sa’ad(s) to nail down the gaps in what we know. I’d be glad to give it a running start but am still stuck on my 2010 chronology of events. What, me lazy? surely not!
PS to all – sorry for the numerous typos in my posts. They are typos – honest! am always in a hurry to get something out….and haste is the root of all evil..
To add…
Dutch Sa’ad got more of my attention because
His was the only straight profile there.
Deena Al Hilli was on there (was that a relation at the hospital)
And the UK sa’ad was just too invisible.
A quick check of Deena at Co house reveals she was also the director of a company (now dissolved).
Right Choice International Limited (founded 2009. Ceased Jun 2012)
Along with a Zeena Al Hilli (born 1980)
nd Hussien Al Hilli (born 1990)
Is that the 21 year old Hussien that was so vocal in the Newspapers ???? I think it was !
And there Co address is 65 New Cavendish Street, London. W1G 7LS.
Clearly the address of the Company Sec.
And she (with 35,000 plus Co’s to her name) has a rather interesting name !
Ready for the next bit…?
I do hope you all are keeping up. Its fast moving but amazing stuff.
The Co Sec of Zeena Al Hilli and Deena Al Hilli and Hussien Al Hilli is a BARBARA KAHAN.
And she is mentioned at the bottom of this email !
The page it came from is….
http://eyreinternational.wordpress.com/2012/06/15/congress-investigating-british-companies-but-not-our-own-government-why/
Peter
788 – 790 Finchley Road, London…… Just one of the Finchley Road “Boiler Rooms” linked to the thousands of fake fraud AIM L.S.E companies.
Another reference with answers to the £billion “Phantom Fuel Deliveries” to the Kyrgyzstan Military Air Base, used as vehicles to deliver pay offs to the families of 2 former corrupt Kyrgyzstan Presidents.
Companies and Directors associated with the United Kingdom also have bogus offshore companies in Cyprus which also happens to be the same location of a person known to Peter Eyre and I (name withheld) who has companies that are registered there and companies under who’s administration that person was arrested and all linked to the thousands of financial disaster companies fronted by:
BARBARA KAHAN
DAVID STUART BROWN
MARY STEPHENS
DAVID PEARLMAN
And
TEMPLE SECRETARIES LIMITED
TEMPLE SECRETARY LIMITED
CENTRUM SECRETARIES LIMITED
The same address of companies affiliated to Directors and Companies of the same person known to Peter and I (name withheld).
You will read, MINA CORP LTD has a recorded subsidiary MINA MEDIA, registered in Cyprus
MINA MEDIA has a sister company: SOLEX PRODUCTIONS.
So tell me.
Why are our politicians not demanding (Like the American Senate) an inquiry into the massive “Fraud & Intelligence Services, Government Corruption” linked directly to 788 -790 Finchley Road? London?
Print it, I’ll take the flack if there’s any comeback.
I will be forwarding this report to the same list of my political contacts
End of Gordon´s email
I’ll do a very quick “timeline”.
1 Anyone that controls the movement of logistics to Iraq has been on VERY good money for TEN good years.
2 Involved in these shipments to Iraq has been materials for Iran and which have been supplier in the full knowledge of “The West”.
3 A certain degree of control has been need for these shipments (fraud and illegal) to take place.
4 The term “full knowledge” means that they are outside known sanctions HOWEVER allowed by certain concerns (governments) to take place.
5 A “certain degree of control” means the “technology” and “man hours” are highly controlled.
And from all that….and all that we have heard… I bet my left testicle that a man with a name we know…was somewhere in that “man hours” link.
It maybe that a random murder took place that day on a hill in France.
It maybe that two people shared the same name…and therefore could blow wide open the workings of this TEN YEAR supply chain.
It may well be they are ONE and THE SAME person.
But if you put One and One together. You get….DIRTY SECRETS THAT CAN BE SEEN BY THOSE BOTHERD TO LOOK !
I continue to wonder about events leading up to Chevaline, and the greater context. Saad al-Hilli’s link to the company whose satellites monitor ship movement, the death of Gareth Williams, the arrest of Jeffrey Delisle, Russia’s involvement and more could possibly be linked in this way:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19906334
http://opencanada.org/features/the-think-tank/essays/canada-and-the-five-eyes-intelligence-community/
A note: ex-colonel Russell Williams was involved with the station at Alert, had flown coastal patrols and worked in electronic warfare. One of his victims had a father who spent much of his career at naval HQ in the nation’s capital.
The U.S., the U.K., Canada, Australia and New Zealand belong to the Five Eyes. France does not belong.
Delisle’s techniques were decidely low-tech: downloading information onto floppy discs, we are told.
I can see we’re on the same track, James.
One more thing I’ve considered is the link between Israel and Russia/ex-Soviet Union (including Poland) via its emigrants.
Who was that swarthy man in the campground?
You picked up on the Five Eyes member, Australia, no doubt. It’s hard to say exactly how far the Five Eyes go with the intelligence they gather, and whether or not they would take action against one of their partners’ citizens, or on a partner’s soil.
There are many divided loyalties in this picture. Old loyalties live on in many emigrant communities.
Logica is owned by CGI Group Inc. — May 31, 2012
http://www.4-traders.com/CGI-GROUP-A-1410156/news/CGI-Group-A-Logica-shareholders-vote-overwhelmingly-in-favour-of-accepting-CGI-offer-14415250/
Cgi Group Inc
9555 Av Christophe-colomb,
Montréal QC, H2M 2E3
Cgi Group Inc
1130 Sherbrooke St. W, 7th Fl.
Montreal, QC H3A 2M8
James 8:06PM – a quibble, if I may. You provided an “Eventline”. Not same as “Timeline’ (ask Tim V, he is the official “Timelord”, a man of the clock. Me, I’m just a pretender).
NR
Logica is now owned by CGI. However, at the time when Saad al Hilli (Dutch orphan) was there, it had no connections to CGI.
Logica was a UK company with its headquarters in Reading (UK)
James
This is new to me (from your rantonuk link):
“Affinity and Associates seem to be registered in Kingston upon Thames”
I thought that this is a Dutch company??? b.v. is typical for Dutch while ltd. is British
or was it fake, too? Can anybody find something about an UK registration or shall we debunk the rantonuk link?
If it were registered in Kingston then we know for sure that the orphanDutch “al Hilli” is in fact our al Hilli.
Blue…
Yes. It’s new to me.
I think the guy that wrote the article got it wrong.
He confused the “two” Sa’ad’s.
And that is the thing !
His info was created on the 6th. The day after the shootings.
So at that point there were “two” SAH’s on LinkedIn.
One was a dud. One was Dutch.
Either someone got up very early to create a dud one…
And managed to get “aviation” in their…but not alot else.
Or Leonardo removed all his info…but his name !
Can you see that happening ? Sa’ad removing everything but his name ? No mention of Shtech ? No mention of anything ?
SO… someone in a rush created it !
The other Sa’ad is Dutch. And like you say, they couldn’t remove it.
I was tryin to figure out WHY ?
And it’s pretty strange….but straight forward.
Blue…
I’ll explain as best as I can (or think). Let me know if you’re awake.
Q
Thanks for the 5-eyes link. I did not know this joint venture of intelligence. But what sye is Mossad here? Is Mossad the brain for the 5 eyes or is it rather the knive that is sticking in those 5 eyes?
Marlin
The Milano Ben Zygier was David Schwartzmann.I am pretty sure about that. The Telegraph used (my opinion) a photo of David Schwartzmann saying that he is Zygier. The FB page of the Italian Allot director did not list Alon/Zygier but it listed Paul Devanderschueren and David Schwartzmann. Tahlia Devanderschueren in Australia is Tahlia Schwartzmann but they both lived a different life and they had a different education although they use the same picture.I believe that Schwartzmann, Zygier and Devanderschueren were swapping IDs, job exams and life-vitas amongst each other.
Oliphant
I did debunk the S M A al Hilli and the Dutch linkedin site in September since i did trust linkedin. However, since i saw Schwartzmann/Zygier/Alon/Zalewsky and Devanderschueren linkedin pages i knew that there is deliberately a lot of fake and lies on linkedin. Looking closer there is no history of the Dutch al Hilli and no families. Nothing. Where did they come from and when? Did they adopt or invent their names? Did they perhaps use false IDs? Or don’t they exist at all? Fantasy like Peter Pan?
Why wouldnt a journalist try to interview the Dutch al Hilli now. Should be easy to get in contact. Not? It isnt easy to find Peter Pan either, is it?
Perhaps the linkedin sites werent sorted out on sept 6th and the second and third linkedin site did appear only later? That writer should have seen that they are “Dutch”. Or else was it still listed on the Sasd al Hilli UK site in the early hours of sept 6th? Nowdays the UK linkedin site shows no job history at all.
Who could get rid of Saads DB site so quickly other than a government? Why would a government delete his FB site that quickly when the killer aas just a lone nutter and tourist hater? What was on his FB site what we should not see? Friends? Remember that Hossein told us that Saad was very active on FB.
James
I am still up and running … And digging 🙂
I think…..
The Claygate “Al Hilli” family are real.
But they are not the “Al Hilli” people that died.
He is most probably working for the “whoever”,
On the killing of Sa’ad Al Hilli…he (the Claygate guy) is asked to “step into the breach”.
The Claygate Al Hilli shares the same name…but is not a satellite engineer at all.
Maybe he works for the British ? I dunno.
But he is to take the fall.
The car picture is a set up. A scene from a movie !
It most probably is Al Hilli from Claygate car. Why not.
Now you ask the “obvious”question.
We have a dead Al Hilli…and replace him with a “dead” Al Hilli !
But why ???
Simple. Someone…or some people…need to see a “dead” Al Hilli.
An Al Hilli that worked for a “satellite company”.
Hey presto…we have a dead Al Hilli !
And we ceate the rest. SSTL agree…and his accountant does.
Maye they all work for the same company, I dunno.
What I do know is that “THE WORLD” sees a dead Al Hilli !
And that is what is important.
Someone (or some group) need to see a dead Al Hilli. And they got that. It’s not the right one….but who cares. He is “satellites” and an “engineer”. And that is what our Dutch guy is !
YOU said “extradicion”… I could nver see that.
But YOU are nearer the truth.
The guy in the pictures…..is long gone.
He’ll be sat in DXB no doubt. Sat “not having a beer” in Trader Vic’s. And why not.
Who did it ? Did what ?
An Al Hilli is dead. Long live Al Hilli…or whatever his name is now…or whatever he looks like. We never knew that anyway !
Blue..
You will get this. It is pure Bernays.
You se what you want to see.
OR what is “told”.
Dutch Al Hilli…is Al Hilli. He is “the one”.
Leonardo….is te fall guy.
Deena and Hussien are just “part of the firm”.
Look at the Co Sec for christ sake !
And the “cash” a non contractor earns.
It is actually pretty bloody brilliant…if you dont spend four months looking at it !
Thus the Dutch people at the campground…
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I nearly forget them. Dutch also.
Israel has second-tier status with the Five Eyes:
http://news.yahoo.com/us-sees-israel-tight-mideast-ally-spy-threat-132232395.html
And I nearly…nearly…forgot.
This ALL came from the “photo shoot” picture.
Pure Bernays.
You look at something you are told to see.
But it maybe not so !