The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Another fire:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/14/microsoft_hot_servers/
Cloud computing is a particular problem when these fires happen. When government agencies are entirely reliant upon the ether to store registry information such as births, deaths, property titles, etc., and when those governments don’t keep their own backup for those files, how much information slips through the cracks?
Watch for more fires like this in the future.
@Bluebird 15 March, 2013 11:41 pm: It could also explain the speedy arrival on the scene of government representatives.
Who would want it? Hmmm…
The shipment apparently was due to arrive by March 30, 2012 at the AREVA processing facility in France, then would make its way to the research facility in Grenoble. Could some of it have gone missing at various points along the way, and how long would it take to discover a missing amount? Logic tells me that processing is one of the key points where the amount of metal would change, and calculations would need to be done in order to determine if the amount lost to refinement would be within the normally expected range. In other words, if some of the metal had gone missing, it most likely would be noticed during the processing stage, which would be some time later. It would not be a surprise if such a discovery would take a few months, given that the metal would be processed in batches, not all at once.
I am reminded that Lachlan Cranswick also worked at a neutron beam centre in a government research program in Canada, similar in nature to this one:
http://www.giant-grenoble.org/en/sitemap/37-about-giant/93-institut-laue-langevin-ill-en
HEU is being shipped elsewhere in the world, too:
http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/weapons-grade-uranium-shipments-quietly-heading-south/article2284189/?service=mobile
Strictly for background, the four producers of most of the world’s Mo-99 are in Canada, the Netherlands, Belgium and South Africa. Supplies of the HEU needed are mainly from the U.S. and U.K., according to this:
http://www.wiseinternational.org/node/3434
Cranswick’s memory was honored recently at this conference in Grenoble:
http://epdic13.grenoble.cnrs.fr/spip.php?article26
Does no one think the “Silver Fern” connection (ie WBM’s firm and one by that name in NZ to supply visas) might be significant. Are they related in any way? Could WBM’s role have been to supply passport/visas to Suhaila al-Allaf or SM for example?
Tim v
I dont see necessarily a “silver fern” connection.
Silver Fern is another name for “New Zealand” and you can find thousands of “silver fern” connections then.
This is nothing else than “outback” for australia or “yankees” for americans. It’s a nickname.
Therefore i cannot see a connection except when it would be coincidence.
So WBM chose the name for his company because of the NZ connection presumably?
and should we put out an all-channels alert for Marlin (“Bluebird – be good now – I’m a bit of a khazar descendent myself. But one of the nice ones, honest (can you tell?)….lots of good DNA mix there, one would hope”) who we haven’t seen or heard from in several weeks?
Tim v
Yes. Silver Fern definitely is another word for “new zealand”.
Maybe Marlin got other things to do, too. Or else he has lost intrrest.
There were msny who left that forum for a while. I do not have the time either to look into here every day.
Tim v
Here is a forum for your silver fern visas. They have a Dubai branch.
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=786950
However, there is lot of silver fern around the world, such as silver fern security. One is in the UK, but there is a silver fern security in australia and in south africa, too.
There is too much silver fern for finding any connections.
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/richard-stretch/20/534/675
@Tim V: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10739639
Hacking into police computers? Is it possible such a thing could occur without anyone realizing it had been done? The mere mention of the possibility of such a thing made people “angry and upset”.
“These were youngsters holidaying in your beautiful country … we encourage our young people to visit New Zealand,” Mr Tzur said.
In light of the Ben Zygier scandal, the words don’t have the same ring about them.
In Q’s Globe & Mail ink above, is a sidebar related to the run-up to Gulf War II:
http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/the-reporter-his-foreign-minister-father-and-the-war-that-consumed-them/article9844171/?service=mobile
They discuss what happened to the WMDs that everyone agreed Saddam previously had. Did he use them all up on his own people or transfer them somewhere?
I remember Syria was suggested at the time, and at one time Saddam transfered planes to his enemy Iran to protect the planes from destruction.
Which leads to the yellow-cake uranium, the fake Niger document, etc. The Bush regime claimed yellow-cake was an indicator of WMDs, but the UN Weapons Inspectors never reported yellow-cake in Iraq, even though much later hundreds of tonnes were found and moved to Canada. Weren’t the UN inspectors tasked with finding yellow-cake?
sure thing Bluebird
16 Mar, 2013 – 9:45 pm but he did say he was going to add to his Zygier “timeline” and develop his ideas on the SS connections. not like him to just disappear without saying he was. I was never quite sure whether he was based in UK or elsewhere and he seems to have a jewish/israeli/ss? connection. just hope he’s ok and hasn’t fallen foul of any nasties.
Yet another helicopter crash…
“Capt. Luca Carniel, a spokesman for the coalition, said there was no enemy activity in the area when the helicopter went down, and that the cause of the crash was being investigated. Officials did not release the type of helicopter that crashed, or the nationalities of the casualties.
The helicopter went down in Daman district, a few kilometers (miles) east of Kandahar, said Javeed Faisal, the spokesman for Kandahar province.
On Monday, a Black Hawk crashed outside Kandahar, killing five U.S. troops. Two more U.S. troops were killed that day by an insider attack, making Monday the deadliest day for U.S. troops so far this year.” Huffinton Post
“Kidnappings became increasingly common in the years of violence following the US-led invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein in 2003, especially after militants bombed a Shiite shrine in Samarra in 2006, sparking a bloody sectarian conflict.
While the violence has been brought under a semblance of control, many Iraqis are still searching for family members who went missing, holding on to hope that they are alive.
There are 16,000 people still missing, according to Arkan Thamer Saleh, the head of the human rights ministry’s humanitarian affairs department, which assists in searching for missing people.
The actual number may be higher as not all cases of missing persons are reported.
“We believe most of these missing are dead,” given the long time they have been gone, Saleh said, adding that the worst years for people going missing were 2007 and 2008.” Huffinton Post
Steven Waller of Deerfield Beach, Wallis Watson of Boca Raton and Kevin Watson of Pompano Beach the occupants of the Fort Lauderdale crash plane. These days I suspect any aircraft disaster.
Found this, answering my question about yellow cake.
“This hoax fell apart fast when it was pointed out that Iraq has a great deal of uranium ore inside their own borders and no need to import any from Niger or anywhere else.”
It was in a history of government lies from Biblical times to US present. Nothing new under the sun [or The Sun]. I knew of Prescott Bush and the Nazis, but not this detail:
“In 1945, the former Dutch manager of the Rotterdam bank resumed control only to discover that he was sitting on a huge pile of hidden Nazi assets. In 1947, the manager threatened to inform Dutch authorities, and was immediately fired by the Thyssens. The somewhat naive bank manager then fled to New York City where he intended to talk to Union Bank director Prescott Bush. As Gowen’s Dutch source recalled, the manager intended “to reveal [to Prescott Bush] the truth about Baron Heinrich and the Rotterdam Bank, [in order that] some or all of the Thyssen interests in the Thyssen Group might be seized and confiscated as German enemy property. The manager’s body was found in New York two weeks later.”
“Similarly, in 1996 a Dutch journalist Eddy Roever went to London to interview the Baron, who was neighbors with Margaret Thatcher. Roever’s body was discovered two days later. Perhaps, Gowen remarked dryly, it was only a coincidence that both healthy men had died of heart attacks immediately after trying to uncover the truth about the Thyssens.”
http://www.worldhistoryclass.info/all-governments-lie.html
The yellow-cake reminded me of the famous cake, key and Bible allegedly delivered to the Iranians by Reagan. Was it by chance a yellow cake? A clue? Another tale with 72 versions. Mistranslations, denials, disputes about the shape of the cake, assertions that the Iranian security guards were hungry and ate the cake.
http://articles.latimes.com/1986-11-14/news/mn-29505_1_mysterious-cake
Reagan’s biographer says it was a chocolate layer cake decorated with a brass key. The only mention of yellow cake is one served to reporters, with champagne, by the Reagans as they returned to California upon completion of his final term.
Misc. stuff. Following Leveson, Scotland proposes mandatory controls on the press, apparently including comments on the web:
http://www.thedrum.com/news/2013/03/16/news-round-response-lord-mccluskey-s-press-regulation-recommendations?
Also on press control, I thought this affair was about phone hacking, but here’s a suggestion it’s in retaliation for paedophile investigations:
http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/elm-guest-house-editor-arrested.html?m=1
Radiation investigation:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/03/15/video-feds-swoop-in-on-metra-train-after-detecting-nuclear-risk/
Death in Surrey, last November (long piece on Russian mob):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/17/russian-killers-on-streets-of-britain
Silver Fern iconry is omnipresent in NZ. My favourite artist designed a new flag with this as a symbol.(Friedrich Hundertwasser)) It is however more associated with Maori culture originally. NZ is very respectful and proud of it’s magnificent first owners.
Unfortuneately I am not a kiwi but a Brit.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294588/MPs-probe-claims-U-S-operating-secret-drone-war-Britains-RAF-bases.html
Yep JCave
17 Mar, 2013 – 10:20 am – It’s even on their Passport!
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://republic.org.nz/images/newpassport.JPG&imgrefurl=https://www.republic.org.nz/node/452&h=366&w=462&sz=35&tbnid=_WSlYlIIDhAFHM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=123&zoom=1&usg=__ZIGB3yobJrGvuruZQbb7cQjD_Yo=&docid=6ireGMxINlbPLM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ecZFUZa6FIWPONncgMAI&sqi=2&ved=0CGMQ9QEwBQ&dur=813
Bluebird
16 Mar, 2013 – 10:17 pm
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Re: Silver Fern Visa 2013
Good luck to all & I hope we don’t end up with the farcical situation that occured last year.
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Tim v
I do not understand the relevance of this silver fern forum post.
Definitely he is regarding to Asterix (Uderzo), but that is a joke.
I do not know what kind of farcical sotuation he refers to.
Maybe you could explain the relevance of this silvrr fern forum post?
A reflection
Litvinenko, al Hilli. Two muslim funerals, two mysterious deaths, many writings, many theories, no answers.
On 21st October 2012 Al Hilli funeral at Imam al Khoei mosque, Queens Park and burial at London Necropolis, Brookwood. (Picture at: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/29/article-0-159C46CD000005DC-90_634x436.jpg)
Much midnight oil burnt on following these cases. Fascinating maybe, but look back to 2006 – a waste of time?
On 23 Nov 2006 Alexander Litvinenko died in hospital and was buried at Highgate Cemetery on 7 Dec 2006 (picture at: http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/litvinenkofuneral.jpg) with Muslim prayers said as he converted to Islam before death. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6216202.stm) One of the best hypotheses is Polonium smuggling. Very helpfully written up by AJStrata (eg The Litvinenko Teapot & Cup: http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/4341) and edwardjayepstein (http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/hypothesis.htm). Wikipedia lists 10 theories of cause of death (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko_assassination_theories). At a hearing on Thursday 14 Mar 2013 the Coroner postponed the date of Litvinenko’s inquest from May until October. For that inquest we have had to wait 7 years. Intergovernmental and security agency conflicts make it likely that the truth will remain elusive. In both cases…?
I’m afraid I’m no wiser than you Bluebird
17 Mar, 2013 – 10:39 pm but I thought the wording was interesting. Ref. to Gaulish (French) village; gulf harbour “armorica”???; “farcical situation that occured last year”; and what appears to be James Bond references. All sounds a bit like spy code to me but then i have a vivid imagination. I’m sure you’d be much more skilled than me to see whether the site has any alterior purpose. And I don’t suppose you had a chance to follow up that Israeli tourist office suicide or Florida plane crash? Sorry to ask. And BB do you have any news contact info. for “Marlin” who appears to have fallen off the map despite saying he had more to say on here? I realise we’re running out of steam here somewhat and reached a bit of a dead end so long as the police stay mum and there’s not political/family/press/public opinion pressure. What can be done?
Good to see you guys are still at it, remembering the al Hillis and miscellaneous other mysterious events which appear to hint at dastardly deeds.
I still have no more idea than any one else what the hell went down at Chevaline in August last year, but one thing is absolutely clear. The Iraq war criminals Tony Blair, George Bush et al remain at large and should all be on trial at The Hague. If you get the chance, please arrest them!
http://www.arrestblair.org/
Even the top military brass in the UK are now adding their condemnation to the way Britain was led into the illegal war 10 years ago.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/17/iraq-war-planning-wholly-irresponsible
And then there’s this from the BBC – Iraq: the Spies Who Fooled the World
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21786506
Didn’t take much to fool them, and I think the BBC should be reminded we were not all fooled!
@ Tim V 17 Mar, 2013 – 11:14 pm
“I’m afraid I’m no wiser than you Bluebird 17 Mar, 2013 – 10:39 pm but I thought the wording was interesting. Ref. to Gaulish (French) village; gulf harbour “armorica”???;”
The home village of the fictional comic-book hero Asterix was located in Armorica [Northwest France] during the Roman Republic. Gulf Harbour is high-end estates and golf club across the water from Auckland. The denizens of Gulf Harbour often commute to work by ferry and sneer at the churlish low-incomers through whose territory they must pass if commuting by automobile. Likely it’s all a bit of a joke.
“Bribery Allegations Surfaced Against [Rupert Murdoch’s] WSJ in China.”
“In FCPA [U.S. Foreign Corrupt Practices Act] cases, unlike almost any other criminal probe, companies under investigation are required to do the bulk of the detective work themselves…”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324532004578365064172055862.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection
Touches on the Niel Heywood [number plate 007] poisoning in China.
@ JCave 17 Mar, 2013 – 10:20 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294588/MPs-probe-claims-U-S-operating-secret-drone-war-Britains-RAF-bases.html
US liberals complained bitterly in old times — Nixon and before — about accusing people of being communists by guilt-by-association and as fellow-travelers and naming them on blacklists.
No objections now to people in the vicinity of terrorists — they should have known better — being accidentally added to the “little” kill list.
In the link above there’s another link:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294372/Animal-welfare-charity-use-DRONES-spy-people-illegally-hunting.html
Self-appointed, righteous do-gooders given government powers to spy, and we can be sure in the very near future they’ll demand offensive drones too, so they can take out the hunters
before the fox is harmed. 🙂