The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
NR
Kazim = Kadhim
Hazim = Hashim
This is no spelling problem but translation variations from Arab letters. It is the same name but differently written with our letters. Both options are valid and the same name.
NR
For your better understanding of arab name spelling:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazem
and what is the explanation for Kadhim’s whereabouts? Was he in Iraq or Surrey, England or both?
Tim v.
My guess is: Both
The SCIRI conferences were held in London. We must search more about SCIRI and the whereabouts of their general assembly. Due to the book he was amongst the 15 “capo di capi” running that organisation.
Next we should look regarding the whereabouts of the other 14 general assembly chiefs. Who was killed, who is still alivs, where did/do they live? Their names are listed in my link page 231 of that book “Iraq”.
In that book we could read his biography.
Tim v.
Maybe this older translation is telling about kazim’s whereabouts:
Kazem al-Hilli remained moving between Iraq and Beirut, London and sporadically until 1981 while pulling his luggage and decided to leave his property and Iraq permanently and join his family in London.Form leaving the final kind of pressure on his brother Mamedahali (uncle Saad) and who ran and continues factor of his brother Kazem commercial agency where I took the government harass and confiscate many properties and factories, most recently arrested in the mid-eighties without any charge and checked intelligence and subjected to psychological pressure and blackmail, where it was Msawmth by Barzan al-Tikriti, the Iraqi president’s brother personally for the acquisition of field and sale of poultry chicken massacre in an amount not equal Awiadel actual price to someone Barzan!!!!. At that time settled Kazem al-Hilli and his family permanently in London and did not return to Iraq during Saddam’s rule was acquired his doorsteps large property located in the Adhamiya and the acquisition of remaining That house and took over the house Iraqi family until the end of 2003Saad Returns to IraqIn March of 2003
The SCIRI/SAIRI headquarters were in Tehran with offices in Damascus and London.
Members of the general assembly:
Head: Muhammad Baqir al Hakim
1. Abd al Aziz al Hakim (leader of iraqi mujaheddin)
2. Husayn al Sadr
3. Kazim al Hilli
4. Shaykh Muhammad Mahdi al Asifi (spokesman DAWA)
5. Muhammad Taqi al Mudarrisi (spiritual leader)
6. Sami al Badri (head of the soldiers of the Imam)
7. Shaykh Muhammad Taqi (military council)
8. Shaykh Jawad al Khalisi
9. Dr. Jafari (DAWA)
10. Sadr al Din al Qabanji
11. Sayid Muhammad al Haydari
12. Abu Bilal al Adib (DAWA)
13. Shaykh Muhsin al Husayni (spokesman of Islamic organisation)
14. Abd al Zahra (DAWA)
15. Dr. Hamam Baqir
16. Shaykh Jalal al Din al Saghir
@ Tim V 3 Apr, 2013 – 11:07 pm attempt to transl
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ornaments / decorations, accessories زينة. / الحلي ..why do the girls have different names?
gentleman / sheikh شيوخ / السادة gentleman bears arms/ sheikhs don’t – just gives commands tribal role can escape judgement fire if ratio good:bad is OK?
and when did Hazim/Hashim return to Iraq and why were they allowed to return by Saadam and his Baath apparatchiks? Sorry to pose more questions but the internal and external politics and how this important Al Hilli family fit into them are the only reliable pointers WE have to the Chevaline crime. All credit to you and others on here BB. this blog must be being followed by at least SOME journo’s, yet not a smidgen gets into the papers. So who needs Levenson when the media is so ill informed or ill-informing?
Now as to the MONEY it certainly seems likely given the year (1984) and Kadhim/zin’s role that this was much more likely Saudi or Iranian money than Saadam’s Iraqi money, though with $2.3 TRILLION missing from the Pentagon in 2001, who knows it might even have been American money. After all, from Desert Storm on, America and to a lesser extent Europe were fixated on getting Saadam out, complicated only by not letting Iran in!
Given the Hashim/Kadhim dual role of ethical/literary leader and political leader (in Iraq the two are hard to separate) one can understand to a certain extent why the £800 000 was untouched for so long. Did efforts to unlock it by the sons trigger a reaction from whoever knew it was there. Could it have been an agency that intervened to stop it being used for the political/technological purpose for which it was intended? Then again the the background of the Al Hillis and the source and purpose of the money must be known to western SI which puts a new interpretation on what they obviously seeded to the press that it had come from Saadam Hussein. This also MUST be misinterpretation to deflect attention from the truth.
CIA/Israel took an ambivalent attitude to Sistani/Shias. Present day you will notice it was a CIA man who commented on the capture of the alleged Al Qaeda assassination team, frustrated by the current Shia led government. Needless to say Al Qaeda were non existent in Iraq prior to 2003. Iran has always claimed that Israel/US were behind the systematic killings. Its certainly possible they were behind some of them and still are, and clearly Sistani is still a target.
Tim v.
I agree with your latest input.
Here is a very informative link about SCIRI.
There is also a graphics. My strong guess is that Kazim was the financial administrator (with his knowledge of business, law and economy).
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/sciri.htm
Very recommended reading.
Request!!!
Could somebody help me to find out about what has happened to the 16 listed board members of SCIRI?(listed above)
Who was killed, who died naturally, who is still alive and what is he doing today?
See translation above
Kazim’s brother …… Mamedahali (uncle Saad).
Could “Mamedahali” be the initials of Kazim’s brother Saad? Mamedahali sounds Persian/Farsi. Not Arab. Olifant, help!
That would confirm my long pending suspicion that the Dutch Saad is none else than a younger brother of Hashim and Kadhim al Hilli. Perhaps having a different mother? How many wives are Shia Ayatollahs allowed to have?
More on Kadhim al Hilli’s organisation:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Council_for_Islamic_Revolution_in_Iraq#section_5
Interesting link in wikipedia above in references:
“Iraqi Shiite with ties to Iran gains top billing”.
Unfortunately this article seems to be “pulled” off the www. Can anybody find ot in an archive?
More:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Baqir_al-Hakim#section_4
A small aside:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/apr/04/north-korea-trident-david-cameron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Trident_programme#Missile_and_warhead_inventory
Back to my previous question, is Iraq’s new remote sensing satellite a possible link to Mossad and Ben Zygier (and all his alter egos) via Italy? Many things could be connected, including Saad’s visits to France for DMC International Imaging Ltd., and possible Russian involvement via launch, digital mapping cameras and ground stations, etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BILSAT-1
http://www.spacemetric.com/node/149
http://www.ziimaging.com/en/news_25.htm?id=3906
@ Bluebird: Talk of SCIRI purge here:
http://gulfanalysis.wordpress.com/2007/01/17/sciri-members-arrested-in-kut/
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2006/785/fo2.htm
The other point perhaps worth noting from my post @ 12.39 that could be VERY SIGNIFICANT for Chevaline, given the close connection uncovered by BB between the Al Hillis and Ayatollah Sistani, is that in DECEMBER 2012 an assassination plan was already under way aimed at Sistani in Iraq. Could this be the link with the organisation behind the Chevaline attack? Could the organisation behind the one, be the organisation behind the other?
The Iraqi counter intelligence unit which carried out the arrests states it is an organisation called the “Islamic State of Iraq”, “an al-Qaeda umbrella group, and that operatives on the list were from other Arab countries”
Apparently thirty individuals were arrested with the leader of an umbrella organisation of armed groups formed two years ago after the killing of Abu Omar al-Baghdadi in a US air strike in 2010 – “Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi”.
“It’s not known whether Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, is actually Iraqi, or, in fact, even exists or is a composite of several people,” said Arraf.” Strange statement that. Could it be significant that this killing group was formed about the same time as Ben Zygier lost his life in an Israeli gaol? However subsequently “in an interview with Al Jazeera on 7 December 2012, Iraq’s Acting Interior Minister said that the arrested man was not Baghdadi, but rather a section commander in charge of an area stretching from the northern outskirts of Baghdad to Taji” – WIKIpedia.
The question that has to be posed is who is Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and who did he and his group work for? Thirty men have to be paid and have a wider infrastructure with access to weapons and training. Who supplied them?
It is stated he was a supporter of Osama bin Laden and was on the American’s “most wanted” list and carried out many outrages to avenge his death. But things are seldom as straight forward as they seem. We have to factor in the events of 9/11 and the way in which Al Qaeda and Osama were conveniently blamed when it is now PROVED that probably neither were. No evidence has ever been presented to connect Osama to the events of 9/11, and none of the suggested “hi-jackers” could have possibly flown the planes, leaving aside all the other impossibilities. So we have an incredible template that the ostensible terrorist enemies were actually the agents of the American secret state! No wonder they didn’t want to take Osama alive and took unprecedented steps to dispose his body without trace. It replicates the clean-up operation of the WTC itself – quite contrary to even domestic crime scenes, let alone one of that intensity.
On Shiachat.com this interpretation is rather supported. ” Posted 02 December 2012 – 07:03 PM
Congratulations to all Iraqis! The agent of the Zionists and the slave of the Saudi Takfiris is arrested in Iraq.
I hope Iraqi government make a good use of him, get info on the network’s other members, bases, funding sources, and ambush and make more arrests before they escape. Daily bombings in Iraq and the massacre of women and children at the hands of these Takfiri Kafir folks should not go unanswered.”
Strangely, I can find no further reports regarding this incident after early December 2012. So just as the CIA man predicted, the leader of the group ceased to be the leader, and thirty or so arrested individuals appear to disappear into the morning mist.
@ Tim V:
Thinking back to Hezbollah here, and Zygier:
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2013/03/24/zygier-case-revealed-in-failing-to-penetrate-iran-and-hezbollah-he-exposed-israeli-spies-in-lebanon/
The clue about the “Balkan country” reminds me of the mysterious “Balkan man” in the campground in the al-Hilli saga.
One more thought:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/29/17520371-member-of-seal-team-6-killed-another-seal-injured-in-parachute-accident?lite
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/navy-seals-punished-secrets-breach-report-article-1.1199187
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023123/Special-forces-helicopter-shot-Afghanistan-mission-rescue-fellow-Navy-SEALs.html
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/08/22/pentagon-bin-laden-triggerman-not-crash-victim.html
Navy Seals involved in the death or “death” of Osama now being killed? You decide.
Then there is this web site: http://occident.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/islamic-state-of-iraq-amir-abu-bakr-al.html the owner of which appears to have access to pronouncements from “Islamic State of Iraq”. The author’s profile is interesting.
Male
Industry Student
Occupation Graduate Student, Middle East Studies
Location Bloomington, Indiana, United States
Introduction I am a Ph.D. student in the Institute of Islamic Studies at McGill University. I have been fortunate to have been able to travel and/or study in Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, France, Germany, Palestine, and Israel, and to have contributed articles to several academic encyclopedias including Oxford University Press’ Encyclopedia of the Islamic World, Princeton University Press’ Encyclopedia of Islamic Political Thought, and The Middle East: History, Religion, Culture (M.E. Sharpe/Golson Media). I completed my B.A. in History, Religious Studies, & Islamic Studies at George Mason University and my M.A. in Near Eastern Languages & Cultures at Indiana University, Bloomington. My primary research interests are Shi’i Islam, modern Muslim political (Islamist) and social movements, radical Sunni Islamism, and Islamist visual culture and new media. E-mail: [email protected]. See Views from the Occident’s “Twitter Specials” sub-blog: Twitter Specials. All Original Material Copyrighted by Christopher Anzalone.
Interests Islamic Studies, Middle East History, Religion and Politics, Iraqi & Lebanese & Iranian Social and Political History, Shi’ism, Salafism”
Sorry I forgot to add the author’s name: “All Original Material Copyrighted by Christopher Anzalone.” The site certainly has the effect of inducing fear in an all consuming and terrifying Muslim threat. It couldn’t possibly be funded by a government organisation surely?
Agreed Q
5 Apr, 2013 – 1:06 am. Witnesses to anything connected to 9/11 do appear to have a habit of dying prematurely under somewhat suspicious circumstances don’t they? Who is behind all this STUFF? It has always amazed me how reliable military helicopters are except when carrying people with interesting security connections. Maybe that’s why Obama always looks underneath before getting on?
Bluebird
4 Apr, 2013 – 2:33 am
“More on SCIRI:
SCIRI also has accredited representatives in Canada, Holland, Sweden, Norway, Finland and Australia. (note: those are exactly the same countries where we can find the al Hilli family members!).
“We have offices in Syria, Geneva, Paris”.”
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We have in Cyprus a Swedish-lebanese Hezbollah-member convicted for preparing a terroristattack July 2012. He visited Lyon earlier to deliver “packages”, so there is most likely important Hezbollah-members in that area, not so far from Annecy.
On July 18 2012 there was the Burgas bomb in Bulgaria, that was more “successful”, and killed some Israeli tourists. Burgas and Cyprus seems to be connected, the operation mode was similar even the Cyprus attempt was stopped at an early stage.
There are two suspects from Burgas, still not caught. One is Australian-lebanese, the other is Canadian-lebanese. The third is still not identified, he was killed by the bomb, probably by mistake. Hezbollah is strongly suspected for the bomb in Burgas.
So there are suspects, linked to Hezbollah, from Sweden, Australia and Canada involved in the terrorattacks summer 2012. Which also fits with the location of SCIRI. And a SCIRI-office i Geneva as well, probably due to the banks in Swiss.
We have a nervous Saad in summer 2012, who visited Geneva later on as we know.
Both SCIRI and Hezbollah are funded by Iran. Do you know if the two organisations use to cooperate re terrorism?
Re the third, still not identified dead terrorist in Burgas, it was early mentioned that he had said to some tourist that he was from Holland, with iranian father. And Holland is another country where there are representatives of SCIRI.
Tim v.
Regarding your question SCIRI and Hezbollah.
First of all: SCIRI changed its name and it is ISCI today.
Secondly: there are two bitter rivals in the Shiite movement of Iraq. The Sadrists and the al Sistani/al Hakim side. The Sadrists claim to be the real Shiites and they want a religious government opposing rights for women, entertainment and even movies and tv.
The Sadrists have support by the poor while al Hakim has support by the educated and by the elite and western oriented Shia. Guess towards what party the al Hillis are affiliated?
It looks as if the Sadrists and al Hakim are more enemies than the Muslims and Israel are.
Consequently there are two support chains from Iran, too. And there are 2 “Hezbollahs”. One religious supported (Sadr) and one supported by the Iranian elite (al Hakim).
Sadr is doing his best to unite with Nasrallah, however, Hezbollah isnt Nasrallah only.
It looks as if Saad might have come into a civil war between two Shia groups who both claim Iranian or US money for their own purpose.
Just like we have 2 CIAs and 2 Mossads, we seem to have 2 Hezbollahs.
Quotes:
The source noted that, “leaders of the traditional Shiite parties are not happy with Al-Sadr’s return to Al-Najaf, the capital of Shiite influence.” It added that “hot political struggles between the Shiite parties for control of the Shiite influence are going to surface through events, especially between Al-Sadr Trend and Al-Dawa Party, which is led by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, on one hand and between the Trend and the Islamic Supreme Council [IISC] which is led by Ammar al-Hakim on the other hand.” It warned that “the struggle between Al-Sadr Trend and the IISC is going to be more public due to the historic struggle for control of Al-Najaf between Al-Sadr and Al-Hakim’s families.
Sadrists and ISCI political entities under the INA banner make up a remarkable show of Shiite unity in Iraq, yet many of the factions in the organization reveal deep divisions once the façade of the alliance is pulled back. Ammar al-Hakim, the leader of ISCI, labeled the Sadr militia as killers in the months before the March vote, reigniting storied animosity between the two Shiite sects. While the endurance of Sadr as the embodiment of Shiite martyrdom is a threat to ISCI and the rest of the Shiite political elite, former exiles and otherwise, it forces them to make room for his nationalist and anti-American zeal.
Links:
http://gorillasguides.com/tag/isci-sciri/
http://en.trend.az/regions/iran/2030398.html
http://gorillasguides.com/tag/hezbollah/
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/01/ap-hezbollahs-training-shiite-militias-inside-iraq/
The best of what i have read so far about the iraqi sectarian shiite war between Sadrists and al Hakim:
http://www.jamestown.org/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=36061
Follow the money:
http://www.merip.org/mer/mer252/making-big-money-iraq
Iran backs ISCI with unlimited moneysupplies to buy votes:
https://dazzlepod.com/cable/09BAGHDAD178/
A bank robbery turns political (Iraq and ISCI).
Follow the money:
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/2009/08/bank-robbery-turns-political.html?m=1
http://www.understandingwar.org/report/battle-basra
Operation knights charge …
… and “follow the money” and British influence in sectarian Shia versus Shia war.
…and Kadhim al hilli being the financial admin of one side ….
My tuppence worth.
Saad al Hilli as part of a ‘clan’ Difficult to decipher who is descended from who. See below. Is this like, say, the MacLeod clan. Different spellings, many leading personalities, gifted in diverse fields – music, church, politics left and right, capitalists, nationalists, media, academia, military etc. All part of a clan.
As in the al Hilli clan. Can’t read back too much of Saad’s motives from his clan affiliation. Apparent links to al Khoei and Sistani religious outlook, ?wishing unifying of religious sects, likes science, civil society, democracy. ?Probably dislikes ‘party of God’ Hezbollah ie ?opposed to religion joined with politics (unless for tactical reasons).
Family of Saad al Hilli, Kazem his father, ?his father Abdul Hussein al Khatib, Habib, Mohamed
From http://www.bahr-ansab.com/vb/showthread.php/4528-ط¯ط±ط§ط³ط©-ط¨طط«ظٹط©-ظپظٹ-ظƒطھط§ط¨-ط§ظ„ظ…ط¹ط±ط¨-طظˆظ„-ط§ظ„ط³ط§ط¯ط©-ط¢ظ„-ط§ظ„طظ„ظٹ-ط§ظ„طط³ظٹظ†ظٹ-ط§ظ„ط²ظٹظˆط¯-ط§ظ„ط°ط¨طط§ظˆظٹط©?s=af0f5c6a4725778e3967ba8836f20825 (…a tricky read, doubtless many loose ends)
I Mohamed al Hilli (who was this? – the father figure…)
II Mark Mujahid Ali ornaments or Tag Mujahid Ali ornaments (leader of the Islamic Renaissance movement, in Najaf, and member of the Scientific Council of the revolutionary command,
Tag Habib al Hilli (poet, son of the great Mohamed al Hilli)
Hussein al Hilli;
III Al-Faqih Al-Adib Mohammed ornaments (poet , grandson of Mohamed))
Mr. Mehedi and Mr. Bagher ornaments, ornaments, (sons of Hussein al Hilli)
Alnsabh, and Mr. Abdul Hussein Al-Khatib son of Mr. Habib ornaments the genealogist
Mr. Abdul Rauf ornaments and professor Mr. Nizar ornaments, sons of Sayyed Ali ornaments (ie = Tag Mujahid Ali al Hilli?)
Abdul Karim Ornaments son of Sayyed Ali Ornaments – left school early, supported family, suave man, occupied niche as pet in family, buried in famous family grave 1949
Mr. Hashim ornaments, a youngest son of the mark Mr. Ali ornaments, Uni USA, Ambassador and statesman, Morrocco, UN. educational pioneer, professor, Ministry of Industry, Iraqi banking, died London
Mr. Kazim ornaments, bin Abdul-Hussein al-Khatib ornaments also title of Wajih?? (ie ?son of Abdul Hussein Al-Khatib)
A lawyer and businessman, Mr. Kazem facet (prominent person) ornaments, bin Abdul Hussein Al-Khatib ornaments, attach important judicial positions, in the first instalments of the faculty of law, and then full-time work, within the early national industrial activity in Iraq, which are leading in their respective fields, thanks to the competence and expertise and outstanding effort, with his social status, in brick and poultry industries and paper napkins, and efficient, accountable in these areas, his brother Mohamed facet ornaments (the notable gentleman Muhammad ornaments)
IV Ali Ornaments Professor son of Faqih Mohammed al Hilli, the writer. Free emotional style of poetry Arab revolutionary period, Algerian revolution, diplomat, Arab League, Press, Dept of Culture, Editor ‘Prospects for an Arab’. Encouraged son re international press
V Haitham ornaments Husseini (author of this article in al Noor on al Hilli’s) Uni in Soviet Union, Naval Studies, Military studies Baghdad, BA Europ’n Lit, Sec to Navy Command, Prof Staff College, Editor ‘Defense magazine’, retd early as Brigadeer Engineer, publ articles, Ph D, London Inst of Journalism, WSJ, Nrewsweek, politics – PR supporter, articles civil society in Iraq, informatics, modern warfare, English, Italian, Russian, Greek. Lived Cyprus 2008.
Different or part of the same al Hilli family?
http://www.alkadhum.org/alfurat/portal/content/view/832/1/ http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=ar#hl=ar&rlz=1R2ADRA_enGB354&site=webhp&q=%D9%85%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85+%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%86%D9%8A+%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%84%D9%8A&oq=%D9%85%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85+%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%86%D9%8A+%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%84%D9%8A&gs_l=serp.3..0i5i30j0i30.4130.4130.0.6125.1.1.0.0.0.0.95.95.1.1.0…0.0…1c.1.8.serp.RsGZKpLIepk&bav=on.2,or.&fp=a864dd8aa1e9208&biw=1024&bih=476 ( wiki entry)
Mr. Musallam al Husseini al Hilli Not immediately clear if this family is part of above. Links with Belgium / Australia
scholar and jurist and a modest ascetic wise pious and devout Cleric in Jerusalem Popular preacher in Iraq.
His name and lineage:
Mr. Musallam bin Hamoud (1) bin Nasser bin Hussein bin Ali bin Mohammed bin Hassan bin Hashim bin Azzam small bin Mohammed bin big Azzam al-Husseini of the breed ornaments Mr. Shahid Zaid bin Ali bin Hussein, peace be upon them.
Birth and upbringing
Mr. Muslim al Hilli (God’s mercy) city of Hilla in 1916 (2
Mr. Muslim al Hilli died (God’s mercy) on March 22, 1981, and was buried in the holy city of Najaf in peace in the cemetery tomb
His four boys:
late Mr. Aziz al-Husseini ornaments cleric and front Alqtanh mosque in the city of Hilla, and passed away in 2001 of a heart attack emergency was buried in the holy city of Najaf in peace in the cemetery parent along with his father Jerusalem.)
there Dr Mohammed in the world blood Pajuluggi and professor of pathology has worked as a university professor at the University of Jordan Isra and was head of the Department of Hematology. Also served as a member of the Belgian National Research Service and as a hematology specialist in the university hospitals in the city of Brussels. Left Iraq in 1981, a fugitive from Saddam’s regime has been settled in Belgium and still works
http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D9%85%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%86%D9%8A wiki entry for the Dr
a specialty doctor working in Australia Dr Ali .
employees in one of the state’s departments Mr. Hassan
Business and events held to commemorate his legacy
1 – founded in the city of Hilla, the hometown of Mr. (God’s mercy) Foundation in Dar Mr. located in the locality of Mahdia in the city of Hilla called the Foundation (Mr. Musallam al-Husseini ornaments) (9) means cultural affairs public, and are taught by the theologians virtuous and professors from universities and different competencies in life sciences and religious. There were also exhibitions of books under the auspices of this institution was to achieve some theological books, especially Mr. Scrolls (God’s mercy) opened this institution in 19/2/2010 The opening ceremony was attended by a(9) group of distinguished clerics and university professors, social and political figures from the city of Hilla and other cities in Iraq holy city of Najaf, Karbala and Baghdad and elsewhere).
omit Jerusalem in above – prob mistranslation / misconstrued
Olifant
The family history would be better if you would use the simple wird exchange and substitute “ornaments” with “al hilli” everywhere in your translation.
Other rhan that: great find!