Obama Drones On 193

Four more years of drone killings, Guantanamo, crazy FBI agent provocateur plots, whistleblower prosecutions and surveillance of citizens were going to come whoever won. Goldman Sachs funded both candidates royally. I probably prefer the slightly tempered or disguised neo-con to the red meat neo-con, but let nobody pretend it makes a vast difference.

A respected retired African President told me last week that George Bush did more for Africa than Obama. Amazingly, I believe that to be true; whatever his motives, a number of Bush initiatives pumped real money into useful African infrastructure. Obama’s relations with Africa have almost entirely revolved around location of military bases.

Perspective changes as you move around the globe.

193 thoughts on “Obama Drones On

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  • Dreoilin

    U.S. WikiLeaks Criminal Probe ‘Ongoing,’ Judge Reveals


    A 2-year-old federal grand jury probe into the secret-spilling website WikiLeaks is still “ongoing,” a federal judge in Virginia revealed Wednesday in a brief ruling.

    It’s the first official confirmation since WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange was granted asylum by the Ecuadorean government in August that the grand jury investigation is continuing …

  • John Goss

    Dreolin, thanks for posting that link. I am increasingly convinced that if the defence team of Assange take on the Swedish police and prosecution services, they will win, and any case they thought they had would crumble.

  • Dreoilin

    I hope you’re right, John. In any case, he’s been so thoroughly demonised in the media, it’s hard to see how anyone could claim he’d get a fair trial.

  • John Goss

    Agreed Dreolin, but he would not be on trial, they would. What’s more it would probably get the prosecution service to show their hand, if they are holding anything of significance. The whole case is political. All the prosecution players are friends. This video, I have been informed, is doing the rounds in Sweden via Flashback.


    It is probably nearer to the truth than anything seen in our media.

  • Dreoilin

    Thanks for the link John. I’ll watch that when I get home, later.

    And ‘GUEST’, you posted a link for me for which I intended to say thanks. Distractions distractions ..
    You intend to do something and before you know it you’ve changed apps and you’re doing/reading something else …

  • Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    I see the magpie and colour me brown have formed an alliance with village idiot. Birds of a feather, schlock together, he he.

  • Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    I am light as a featha, ‘modo.

    Not one to gloat, however, as this chapter leads to the next, governance.

    I was watching FOX when they called Ohio, and then called it for Barf-Orama, and was a little surprised when they called it on something so close with just 50% of the vote in. Like Rove I also smelled something rotten in Denmark, until the next morning.

    I thought the Rubes would be humbled, but they’ve doubled-down on the crazee. At what point does optimism, become delusion

  • Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    with a forward by David Mamet….’nuff said.

    Mebbe you can tell me why so many look the other way at Russia and Syria? Not a word about the criminal states and their ruthlessness. Just askin’.

  • Komodo

    We’re having trouble with reversing the Cold War doctrine of “no interference in the affairs of sovereign nations”, Ben.

  • Mary

    Have just seen a trailer for Yotam Ottolenghi, yet another cookery programme.

    ‘I was brought up in Israel (pictures of someone diving into a blue sea from a boat) (I think). I love the food of the Mediterranean. (pictures of him making hummous and of a bowl of tomatoes with a nice laughing Arab lady) It is my home.’

    Quite Mr Ottolenghi.

    Somewhat different for the Palestinians though, especially those in Gaza on their siege rations. And little or no freedom for them to roam around the Med. They cannot go further than 3 miles from their shore without being attacked by Israeli navy gunships nor can they exit through the crossing points unless they have an Israeli permit.


  • Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    Humanitarian intervention seems to be the cover story, Komodo. But I don’t understand your point on my question as to why US evil is so evident, whereas critiques of Assad and Putin are no where to be seen.

  • resident dissident


    Given that Yotam Ottolenghi’s business partner is Palestinian from East Jerusalem I very much doubt that he needs lectures on such matters from you and your ilk. Quite why he cannot see Jerusalem as his home since that is where he was brought up by his parents through no fault of his own is quite beyond me. Of course actual stories of Jews and Arabs getting on with each other and exploring and respecting each other cultural heritage, of which cookery is a part, is something that bigots on either side will try to rubbish rather than promote as a positive way forward.

  • nevermind

    Thanks for the digging Komodo, Athill has got so much mud on his stick, he’s toast now. On radio Norfolk this morning the other candidates starting to make quip’s about semtex, asking him whether he had supplied anything.

    His answer was that he ‘has not sold anything’ since he became UK director of Csok Czm in January.

    Having briefed the local paper and the BBC and actually had it flagged up by Nick Conrad, felt good today.

    This attempt by the coalition to control the future of the police by political stooges is breathtaking. What is really bugging me is that these stooges will get elected with the lowest turnout ever. But will they notice?

  • technicolour

    Just about to make shuk-shaka: trad Israeli dish brought back by a musician friend of mine who was working with Israeli and Palestinian musicians. The current, genocidal policy of the Israeli government was doing no-one any good.

    “Birds of a feather, schlock together, he he”. Obviously, bullies prefer it when they’re not outnumbered. He he, indeed.

  • Phil

    Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations) 8 Nov, 2012 – 4:20 pm
    “why US evil is so evident, whereas critiques of Assad and Putin are no where to be seen.”

    Ben, if I might chime in on this with my two pence worth:

    Because of where we live.

    We question the authority that rules over us. Our propaganda reminds us daily how evil they are. Which they are.

  • technicolour

    NB There’s been plenty of criticism of Putin on this blog; particularly with reference to journalists, the fixed elections (as criticised by the UN) and Chechnya. I’ve written some of it, fwiw.

    Otherwise, Phil is right – it’s geo-political.

  • Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    “Which they are.”

    Nolo Contendre, Phil. But the Hegemonists are Legion in the world, who would, if they had the scope, to meddle in the affairs of other Nations. Got any in mind?

  • glenn

    I’m pretty surprised at the negative reaction here to Obama’s re-election. From the sounds of it, most here would have been happier for Romney to get in, so there’d really be some proper bitching to do before long. The cultist liar Romney was leading a party of lunatics, supported by crazies and the investor classes who wanted to see tax cuts and wars, no matter what.

    There is a vast difference between Romney and Obama, and try to understand that if Bernie Sanders was voted in, there would still be kill-lists and drone strikes. That part of the US system is pretty much out of political control.

  • Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    Forget it, Glenn. It’s Chinatown…:)

  • Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    BTW; I’ve been battling with ‘progressives’ on Bradley Manning for some time on a blog I frequent. It’s a battle i’ve been shuttered for, until now, because they wouldn’t discuss anything except how to get him re-elected. Now that excuse is gone, so I’m kicking some booty and taking no names.

    The latest…..http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/11/ap-bradley-manning-offers-plea-acknowledging-wikileaks-role-110812/

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