The Respectability of Torture
St Mary’s University College, Thurs 1st August, 7.30pm
Craig Murray, former British ambassador to Uzbekistan, was a whistleblower who was removed from his ambassadorial post by Tony Blair for exposing the Tashkent regime‟s use of rape and systematic torture, including the boiling to death of political opponents. He has also spoken out against Central Asia‟s appalling dictatorships, regimes which are allies of the West, involved in torture and rendition, and was accused of threatening MI6‟s relationship with the CIA. Now a human rights activist, author and broadcaster, he outlines the dynamics of torture and the hypocrisy of incriminated Western governments.
My first public appearance for a while will be in Belfast on 1 August where I shall be giving a talk. Long term readers of this blog will recall that, while my focus is largely on international affairs, the domestic political achievements I most hope to see are a united Ireland and an independent Scotland.
http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Israel-Prison-Service-names-26-Palestinian-prisoners-to-be-released-this-week-322762
1.) Fayez Mutawi al-Khur, arrested in November 1985
2.) Salah Ibrahim Ahmed Mugdad, arrested in June 1993
3.) Samir Nayef al-Na’neesh, arrested in March 1989
4.) Yusef Abdel Hamid Irshaid, arrested in March 1993
5.) Mustafa Othman al-Haj, arrested in June 1989
6.) Salameh Abdallah Musleh, arrested in October 1993
7.) Atiyeh Salem Musa, arrested in March 1994
8.) Salah Mahmoud Mukled, arrested in July 1993
9.) Mohamed Abdel Majid Sawalha, arrested in December 1990
10.) Atef Izzat Sha’ath, arrested in March 1993
11.) Yusef Said al-Al, arrested in February 1994
12.) Midhat Fayez Barbakh, arrested in January 1994
13.) Ali Ibrahim al-Rai, arrested in April 1994
14.) Mohamed Jaber Nashbat, arrested in September 1990
15.) Samir Hussein Murtaji, arrested in October 1993
16.) Hosni Faregh Sawalha, arrested in December 1990
17.) Faraj Saleh al-Rimahi, arrested in July 1992
18.) Ala eddin Ahmed Abu Sitteh, arrested in January 1994
19.) Ayman taleb Abu Sitteh, arrested in January 1994
20.) Esmat Omar Mansour, arrested in October 1993
21.) Khaled Mohamed Asakreh, arrested in May 1991
22.) Nihad Yusef Jundiyeh, arrested in July 1989
23.) Mohamed Mahmoud Hamdiyeh, arrested in July 1989
24.) Jamil Abdel Wahab Natsheh, arrested in December 1992
25.) Taher Mohamed Zaboud, arrested in February 1993
26.) Sabih Abed Hammed Borhan, arrested in February 2001
Those 26 will leave prisons with walls to live in outdoor prisons.
What operation? Hope it’s not one of those organ transplants we keep reading about?
‘Two other members of the committee were absent: Netanyahu, because of his operation, and Public Security Minister Yitzhak Aharonovitch (Israel Beytenu), who is abroad.’
Zion Koan series continues – Will Abba Eban be turning in his grave as we witness sewage satanyahu yet again never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity for peace!! How sweetly ironical, yidish propaganda finally turned on its head ?!!
Mr Richard ‘Dirty Des’* Desmond is SO confused about statin prescribing.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/health/408878/Statin-benefits-far-outweigh-risks June 20 2013
http://www.express.co.uk/news/health/413772/Statins-really-do-save-your-life-New-study-ends-pill-safety-fears July 10 2013
http://www.express.co.uk/news/health/421421/GPs-in-a-muddle-over-the-heart-drugs-statins-as-chaos-hits-millions August 12 2013
*http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Magazine/PrivateEye?from=Main.PrivateEye
Hi team!
During my absence, and having been reading back through the contributions, I see Flaming Mary has stated that she hates her country!
What a surprise!
I suspect that other Murrayistas harbour such feelings, but aren’t quite so brazen in coming forward as our frequent poster, so I thought, as a little exercise, I would ask them, instead, to think of five (or more!) things they like about Britain and list them here.
If you are struggling to find anything positive to say, then I suggest a one-way ticket to Russia, Iran or any other country judged “civilized” by the Murrayistas, of your choice, where you can wax lyrical about the wonderful fairness of life under your chosen regime, and from which the horrors of your existence in the leafy lanes of suburban Surrey will be but a distant memory.
You will, of course, be going against the general direction of human migration, but don’t let that stop you! You’ll feel just like those dissidents who went over to the Eastern Bloc for a better life during the Cold War. And come back again. 🙂
Gosh, looks like it’s all things Israel again!
Why shouldn’t Tom Jones sing in Israel, Miserati?
So kind of Villager to send felicitations and further health advice to Craig on his foot trouble.
This from ‘Getting Back Into the Water’ on Craig’s ticker problems.
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/07/gently-back-into-the-water/#comment-418806 !!
We do not know or need to know whether Craig has had an orthopaedic operation and/or treatment from a cardiologist. Sufficient that he is alive and well and has not succumbed to one of those extrajudicial killings that our masters are so proficient in arranging. I hope he is on holiday having a good rest.
Trust Anon to bring that up. Actually if you listen to Craig in the Vimeo video that has been linked, you will hear him say that he is not proud of his country.
Perhaps you would like to find the qualification I made after I was jumped on by the trolls. The trolls love their country/countries of course.
[Mod/Jon: More nonsense deleted, likely in the same vein as other anti-Jewish material from this poster]
Have you considered the “periods of silence”, Mary, as recommended by Villager?
What a nerve. Thames Water want to stick an extra £29 on our bills as a one-off payment. The average bill is c £350.
Reasons givens – The cost of their £5bn Thames tunnel (which many say is unnecessary), extra sewer maintenance and unpaid bills ie bad debts. In other words, we are paying higher bills because many cannot or will not pay their existing bills. ie a vicious circle.
Thames Water owned by Macquairie Bank Australia and ownership is hidden behind Kemble.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemble_Water_Limited
Board http://www.thameswater.co.uk/about-us/855.htm
What Mr Baggs the CEO is bagging for himself.
http://metro.co.uk/2013/06/10/thames-water-boss-to-receive-1m-pay-as-profits-slump-3836072/
Note no corporation tax is paid.
Leakage is not mentioned.
Other privatised water companies are watching this move carefully it is said and will follow suit.
Nevermind,
it has been done. I apologize again hoping that you do not think that it was intentional.
Rubbaduck:
Regardless of whether you support Israel or not – your call for evidence of this is ironic in view of your very consistent failure to provide any evidence at all of any of your assertions, or indeed to answer any questions put to you with anything other than three more questions – I’m not seeing any movement on this question of Scorgie’s, yet.
“What do you see as the best chance for peace between the state of Israel and a proposed state of Palestine?”
Break the silence, please. Inform the wretched groundlings. What is your peace plan? Would it be based on relentlessly trolling the Palestinians until they give up and seek refuge in another country? And do you think that would work? How many assistants would you need to accomplish this? Would Anon, Villager, Kempe be enough? Have you made aliyah yet? When will you exercise your right to return? Chicken soup and matzos or taramasalata?
So many daft questions. Want more? Or would you like to answer the serious one?
I think I know the answer to that one, anyway.
jon,
many thanks for reassigning my posts to the original author. It was no intention of mine but apparently very easy to perform.It would be easy to prevent such misshaps or intentional sabotage by a software check that the authors name agree with his email address.
George Galloway to turn to Kickstarter to fund anti-Blair film
The outspoken politician aims to use crowdfunding to finance documentary entitled The Killing of Tony Blair
More
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/aug/12/george-galloway-tony-blair-kickstarter
‘Have you considered the “periods of silence”, Mary, as recommended by Villager?’
.
Such hypocrisy.
If the caps fit. LOL
‘Russian prosecutors have claimed that they have found evidence that Aleksey Navalny received money for his mayoral campaign from abroad, which is against the law and could lead to the opposition blogger’s removal from the race.’
http://rt.com/politics/navalny-foreign-prosecutors-confirm-375/
Anon,
It takes frequent hostile mention of Israel to encourage shy and retiring posters such as yourself to post here. And even more concentration on that self-styled beacon of democracy to induce you to make any constructive comments. Of which we await the first, breathlessly.
I see Israel is claiming that the expansion of settlement construction announced yesterday is part of a quid-pro-quo in the agreement to release Palestinian prisoners. The Palestinian negotiator, Saab Erekat denies that even an implicit agreement was given to settlement construction – his denial comes right at the bottom of this blatantly slanted CBS piece:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57598039/israel-oks-1200-new-settlement-homes-in-palestinian-deal/
This is Erekat’s position:
http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/diplomacy-defense/130808-israeli-palestinian-talks-to-resume-august-14-in-jerusalem
Dreoilin’s post about Galloway’s proposed film The Killing of Blair.
It was also carried by the Independent. The comments below are truly revolting.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-killing-of-tony-blair-george-galloway-in-bid-to-raise-funds-for-film-about-former-pm-8756358.html
From Jonathan Cook’s new blog, written from Nazareth, ie from within the belly of the beast.
Israel’s prize: 300 new settlers per prisoner 12 August 2013
Few of us – even the participants – believe that there is any hope these latest “peace” talks will lead anywhere. All the Palestinians will get from the negotiations are a handful of political prisoners, while Israel gets a quick expansion of the very settlements it is supposed to be about to dismantle as part of a peace agreement.
The current exchange rate is 1,200 new settler homes for each of the 26 Palestinian prisoners to be released. Or looked at another way, about 300 Jewish settlers for each prisoner.
That bargain looks even worse when one reads the small print. This first release of prisoners, all of whom have been in jail for more than 20 years, are inmates assessed by Israel as posing a low security risk. Nonetheless, Israel is insisting that 14 of the 26 not return to the Palestine supposedly about to be created but into exile in a new jail, one that gets intermittently bombed: the prison of Gaza. Most of the rest will be returned to the tiny prisons of Area A of the West Bank. Previous experience warns us that Israel will re-arrest them the moment they try to stray out of these enclaves.
If the Palestinians will win nothing from these talks, Israel has much to gain. In addition to a boom in “legitimate” settler house-building, it gets some breathing space from its growing status as international pariah – in the eyes of most of the world’s people, if not their governments. It also delays the Palestinian Authority from pursuing the most fruitful action it can take at the moment: going back to the UN and heading for the International Criminal Court at the Hague.
It helps too to deceive us again into believing the US wants to exert some control over Israel’s behaviour and is doing its best to bring peace to the region. And when the peace process eventually goes belly-up, Israel and the US get to blame the Palestinians again, with the hope for Israel that it can annex Area C – most of the West Bank – as a bonus.
http://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2013-08-12/israels-prize-300-new-settlers-per-prisoner/#
komodo
you do not seriously believe to get a sensible answer from that halibabathic psychopath, do you? For him everythng is beautiful (La vita è bella!). it goes like that:
Israel to start building nearly 1,200 new units in West Bank and East Jerusalem – La vita è bella!
Israel Kills 5 People In Egypt – La vita è bella!
British auctioneer’s Holocaust letter may be a fake – La vita è bella!
US suckles Israel to the tune of $30 million a day – La vita è bella!
Israeli forces smash Palestinian child’s head in the Al-Aqsa Mosque – La vita è bella!
Israeli military shoots 14-year-old protester in face with rubber bullet – La vita è bella!
US grants first visas to gay Israeli couples – La vita è bella!
Sex, lies and diplomacy: Scandal in Israeli embassy in S. America – La vita è bella!
2 Israeli cops indicted for beating innocent Arab bystander – La vita è bella!
Israeli couple suspected of pimping minors – La vita è bella!
I have not made this up and the above list contains some titles of articles to be found on https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/
FJ -Cook calls it correctly IMO. Still digging, but it looks as if the settlement – for- prisoner deal was cooked up between the US and Israel, without input from the Palestinian side, and Abbas had his arm twisted by threats of withdrawal of aid, to agree to this. Someone’s going to shoot Abbas, and it won’t be the Israelis.
Beacon of democracy.
http://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2013-08-03/video-reveals-ugly-reality-for-palestinians/
Since Bernard Levin’s name was mentioned earlier, this interview of his with K is of interest:
Krishnamurti & Bernard Levin: Part 1 (of 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1AvljMbU8c
Recommend any one watching it actually sees all three parts, about 30 minutes. May begin to change your life.
Its for everybody of course. But, few things sadden me more than seeing people like Mary (9 posts already, just this morning!) and Herbie ageing, ostensibly greying but still not growing, being held back by their internal conflicts and appearing here repeatedly to score points.
Enjoy the weather and have a good day!
And what of this triumph of entrepreneurship? File under “Jam/tomorrow”, pay Blair another fee…
http://mondoweiss.net/2013/05/billion-palestine-capitalism.html
More informed comment when any information at all is available. Not yet.
The ‘Villager’ can count too. Four of his usual and dreary and sanctimonious entries today.
Try counting the posts from his best mate Habbabkuk. I make it about 23 🙂
We do not need any more quotes from this Krisna person. Another man made religion/following. Pure tosh.
btw is the village you inhabit Bramdean? Or are you in one of the many other international locations? All with huge financial resources when further investigated.
Where does the money come from to acquire premises like these? http://brockwood.org.uk/
Fees £18,860 pa !!
As ‘well dodgy’ as the Scientology cult
See The Church of Fear
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/01/the-church-of-fear/
What IS P Charles up to at these meetings with the ConDems?
Paul Flynn MP is outraged. He says that there have been 53 such meetings.
http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/83381/paul_flynn_prince_charles_is_the_most_influential_lobbyist_in_the_kingdom.html (subscribers)
A shady defence? Clarence House stands up for Prince Charles’ ‘lobbying incontinence’
Monday, 12 August 2013 10:37 AM By Alex Stevenson
A defiant Clarence House has defended the Prince of Wales’ right to intervene in government matters, in a move imperilling the monarchy’s reputation for impartiality.
A spokesperson for the Prince of Wales said it was Prince Charles’ “duty” to talk to ministers in order to communicate the concerns of ordinary people he meets.
It follows the revelation that the heir to the throne has held 36 private meetings with ministers since the 2010 general election, including seven with David Cameron.
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http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/08/12/a-risky-defence-clarence-house-stands-up-for-prince-charles
P Charles should keep out of it.
His second son is joining an elite* Apache unit.
http://truthdive.com/2013/08/11/Prince-Harry-to-join-royal-army-s-top-Apache-helicopter-unit.html
*elite – shorthand for ‘good at killing’
“We do not need any more quotes from this Krisna person. Another man made religion/following. Pure tosh” – and yet still preferable to the prolonging of petty fights & one-up personship, *I* think.
Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Limited is an Active business incorporated in England & Wales. Their business activity is recorded as Primary Education. Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Limited is run by 6 current members. It has no share capital. It is also part of a group.
The latest Annual Accounts submitted to Companies House for the year up to 31/07/2012 reported ‘cash at bank’ of £118,965, ‘liabilities’ worth £858,949, ‘net worth’ of £4,827,052 and ‘assets’ worth £1,560,023. Krishnamurti Foundation Trust Limited’s risk score was amended on 24/07/2013.
Many directors Past and Present
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/01055588/KRISHNAMURTI-FOUNDATION-TRUST-LIMITED/directors-shareholders
I see Me Henebry has a French address.http://companycheck.co.uk/director/901056059
and to finish with a LOL http://inthepresenceofk.org/about/ (Mary Zimbalist)
The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao…..
When the world knows beauty as beauty, ugliness arises
When it knows good as good, evil arises
Thus being and non-being produce each other
Difficult and easy bring about each other
Long and short reveal each other
High and low support each other
Music and voice harmonize each other
Front and back follow each other.
(Laozi (attrib): Dao De Jing)
“A spokesperson for the Prince of Wales said it was Prince Charles’ “duty” to talk to ministers in order to communicate the concerns of ordinary people he meets.”
Yeah, sure.
It’s PR gibberish of course, but so poorly constructed as to raise further questions around what he is actually lobbying for.
We already know it ain’t the peeps, so what are they hiding?