Dashing off to London now to do an interview with George Galloway for his crowd sourced documentary “The Killing of Tony Blair”. Sounds less like a film, more like a good idea.
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Hey, Jay!
“Habba with news release yesterday on the possibility of Fluoridation of our water supplies, with your current interest in the vaccination programs how do you fell about this news.”
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Well, it’s not really accurate to call my interest in vaccination programmes “current”, I’ve been interested in them for quite a while. That’s why I found Mary’s call for fewer infant vaccinations interesting as well, I suppose. And I’d still be interested to hear from her exactly which infant vaccinations she’s get rid off, but I guess she’s too busy posting about Palestine/Israel to tell us.
Anyway, thanks for your interest in what I think about fluoridation. In reply, I regret to have to tell you that I have no views in the matter.
In return, I’m interested in your bowel movements. Were your stools satisfactory this morning? Is everything OK?
Nevermind
“I leave it to others to judge whether the reparations were too lenient, I heard that it was only in 2010 that Germany managed to pay off the WW1 debts, Fred, it lingered.”
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You heard wrong, mein Lieber. Germany ceased paying reparations in 1932.
Mary
“Ukrainian court bans Russian TV broadcast
March 26, 2014
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-court-bans-russian-tv-245/
So similar to the West’s treatment of Press TV”
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And so similar to Russia switching off Ukrainian TV in the Crimea before the so-called referendum.
“I sympathise with your anguish, but I wouldn’t get my knickers in such a twist if I were you. You mention “two seats”” – are you aware of the total number of seats being contested in France at these elections?”
In your usual non evidence providing way, you are belittling the murder of immigrants in Germany and the harrassment of the Banlieue’s by the Sourette by saying ‘oh its only in two seats’.
Well its says a lot about fascism in France and how close it is to the Conservatives aim to get back into power, equally here were UKIP’s simple messages, amplified by a rabid media, is spreading the collective jitters through the Conservative ranks, bad enough to make consessions to these rightwingers.
you seem to like the European rightwing network of Wilders, Le Pen and Jobbik, why else be so noncholant.
Fact is that the rising islmophobia in Europe is the common thread running through this network and our BNP, national front and Oooops, Likud are all part and parcel of it.
what shameful lament to make Habby and we don’t mind you are wearing knickers.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/the-likud-connection-europe-s-right-wing-populists-find-allies-in-israel-a-777175.html
“You heard wrong, mein Lieber. Germany ceased paying reparations in 1932.”
See you are at it again, making assumptions without proof, grow up Zwerg.
Show me the masses of Germans visiting them,Kempe, ask around you German friends who last been to visit a WW1 wargrave.
you seem to think that if everything is in the right place, looks good and had money spent on it, that there is no neglect.
There is, Germans are neglecting these graves by their absence. Please try and inform yourself.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/19/us-germany-wwi-remembrance-idUSBREA2I0FN20140319
Ahh, trying to change the meaning of “neglected” now.
I did say visitors were few and far between but they are far from being “abandoned and neglected” as you claimed.
Nevermind
““You heard wrong, mein Lieber. Germany ceased paying reparations in 1932.”
See you are at it again, making assumptions without proof, grow up Zwerg.”
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Take a deep breath, Nevermind, and calm down.
You made a claim (something you “had heard”.)
I pointed out that what you had heard was wrong, and gave you the correct information.
You then seem to have got upset.
Why? Anger management issues?
I also provided a link for you to read socket, now go and feed your chickens.
Nevermind
It’s school time for you again, I fear.
“In your usual non evidence providing way, you are belittling the murder of immigrants in Germany and the harrassment of the Banlieue’s by the Sourette by saying ‘oh its only in two seats’.”
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No, I’m pointing out that the FN and UMP are envisaging an electoral deal in two constituencies – two out of hundreds. And advising you not to draw paranoid inferences from that.
BTW – I take it you were referring to the Sûreté when you wrote “Sourette”?
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“Well its says a lot about fascism in France and how close it is to the Conservatives aim to get back into power,..”
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Wrong again. It says nothing about fascism or France. It says that in two constituencies (out of hundreds) local UMP members have defied the UMP’s national leadership and have made it known that they will entertain a second-round electoral pact with the Front National.
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“you seem to like the European rightwing network of Wilders, Le Pen and Jobbik, why else be so noncholant.”
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I hesitate to use the word “reasoning” in a discussion with you, but what is the reasoning underpinning that accusation?
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La vita é bella, life is good!
Reasoning with you is like teaching a horse to brew coffee, socket, and now you can talk to yourself again.
What is it with all these pseudo fascists sympathizer here, they just don’t learn their own messages.
“ESLO, please explain why you think it IS racist.”
Try telling someone from Jamaica that Patois is just a village dialect – but please stand back when you do so.
I made no case for reducing infant vaccinations. It is for a qualified doctor to decide what vaccines a child is given. Vaccines are not like sweeties.
I pointed out that children develop needle phobias. The t===l has obviously never worked in a hospital or health centre and seen the distress of the child and the mother when a blood sample is needed or a cannula has to be inserted. It is an indisputable fact that BIG PHARMA make large profits from vaccine manufacture. Remember the SARS and the Tamiflu panics. Cui bono?
GSK’s Cervarix is another vaccine where there is a risk of adverse reactions and where young people are left with the impression that there are no risks to health from sexual activity. There are many of course and genito urinary clinics are now being closed.
I have made it to safely and healthily to my seventies without a blanket coverage of vaccines. I do not even have the heavily promoted flu vaccine which contains the swine flu component. Ridiculous.
http://truthaboutgardasil.org/about-2/
http://www.currentpartnering.com/insight/top-50-pharma/
http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/11/vaccination-profiteers-gang-up-on-hannah-bruesewitz-in-supreme-court/
Just a few links for my irrational pursuer to bone up on. He might learn something and stop using this stick to try to beat me with. Failing incidentally!
A note to an MP ref the lack of any signatures on George Galloway’s EDM which I linked to earlier.
What a disgrace that no-one has yet signed this EDM.
It shows how low Parliament has sunk and how out of tune MPs are with the public conscience. It is of course a painful reminder to MPs of their failure to exercise due diligence in the search for truth before committing this country to one of the foulest wars ever.
It is also a reminder of their reckless disregard for this nation’s reputation, not to mention their responsibility for the consequent slaughter of at least half a million people and the trashing of their heritage.
And let us not forget that the British Parliament’s monstrous crime came on top of the 600,000 children that died as a result of 13 years of devastating economic sanctions imposed on the Iraqi people before the war began – the sort of brainless spitefulness your ministers indulge in to this day against other countries, other innocent civilians.
Will no-one stand up, sign up, and admit they were wrong?
MEPs denied access to Gaza
An official delegation from the European Parliament has been denied access to Gaza by the Israeli authorities.
The cross-party group of three MEPs (Chris Davies, ALDE/UK – Norbert NEUSER, S&D/D – Nicole Kiil-Nielsen, GREENS/FR) had intended to meet with officials from the UN Relief and Works Agency to discuss the use of EU money on humanitarian projects in the Gaza Strip.
Israel has severely restricted access to the 1.7 million people of Gaza since 2007 in what has been described as an exercise in collective punishment after supporters of Hamas took control.
Exports from the territory have virtually ceased since then and economic activity has been strangled.
UNRWA receives more than €100 million annually from the European Union, much of which is spent on emergency food distribution and the provision of education within Gaza.
Israel claims that the MEPs from the European Parliament’s delegation on Palestine through the Erez crossing will not be solely concerned with humanitarian matters,
But the allegation has been strongly refuted by the MEPs, who say that Israel’s closure of the Gaza Strip is in breach of international law.
They say: “Israel has inflicted an economic catastrophe upon the people of Gaza and the humanitarian consequences are all too well known.
“Instead of preventing MEPs assessing where European taxpayers’ money is being put to good use the Israeli authorities should be hugely grateful for the EU’s efforts.
“The Geneva Convention makes clear that Israel is responsible for the well- being of the people under its control and occupation, but the EU is paying bills that are rightly Israel’s responsibility.”
From the Palestine Ambassador to the UK. He does not say what he’s going to do about it though.
When I read the headline I thought ‘Oh good’. But he’s standing as the next President/Dictator. The poor people. One tyrant after another.
Egypt military chief Abdul Fattah al-Sisi resigns
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26747101
I have an Egyptian friend and neighbour. She sees through all of the American interference in her country’s affairs.
Mary
I not trying to use what you wrote about vaccinations as a stick to beat you with. I am using it to try and make you understand that your inability to keep your mouth shut and not bad-mouth absolutely everything – even things most people would welcome – makes you appear very silly and gets you into embarrassing positions from which you extricate yourself only slowly and painfully if at all.
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“Vaccines are not like sweeties.”
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Indeed not. I didn’t say they were, but that was actually the implication of YOUR post. As a matter of fact, some vaccinations are a legal requirement and there is no one serious in the medical field or elsewhere who disputes the value of the other ones you mentioned in your original post.
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“I pointed out that children develop needle phobias. The t===l has obviously never worked in a hospital or health centre and seen the distress of the child and the mother when a blood sample is needed or a cannula has to be inserted.”
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They do – and so what? And how many? Some children are afraid of the dark and some people scream when they see a mouse or a spider. And you’re right – I’ve never seen the distress in hospital of a child with needle phobia. But I have seen the consequences of TB, polio and, in later life, of mumps and rubella, and I know which one I’d rather see if I had the choice.
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“It is an indisputable fact that BIG PHARMA make large profits from vaccine manufacture.”
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They probably do. Again,, so what? How do you know that those profits don’t in part go to fund the development of new medicines and vaccines?
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“GSK’s Cervarix is another vaccine where there is a risk of adverse reactions and where young people are left with the impression that there are no risks to health from sexual activity. There are many of course and genito urinary clinics are now being closed.”
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Yes, there is a risk, as there is with practically all medicines and vaccines. And with all operations for that matter. But again, I think most normal people would accept a possible adverse reaction as a reasonable price to pay for an effective vaccine against cervical cancer. And please don’t try to dirty the argument by claiming that this vaccine is being “sold” as giving immunity from health risks arising from sexual activity – you know perfectly well that this is not the case and that the health professionals who administer the vaccine are not saying that.
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“I have made it to safely and healthily to my seventies without a blanket coverage of vaccines.”
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I congratulate you on that. But perhaps you were lucky – luckier than the children with polio before the Salk/Sabin vaccines finally came along….
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Anyway, I propose to leave the matter here. But please do draw breath and THINK a little before posting!
Patronising, hectoring and lecturing as usual. No point at all in responding. A response, even indirect, produces another wash of the stuff.
His comments on the Andy Myles thread already form 20% of the total submitted.
@Mary
I suspect the lack of any signatures for the EDM was because it was tabled by George Galloway, but it certainly seems that many MPs fawned and are still fawning about Tony Blair. Sadly, the British public seem to admire a warmongering prime minister, and the incumbent’s popularity is boosted in the polls whenever (s)he talks about the latest media-created threat. Wasn’t there something in “1984” about being almost perpetually at war…
The MPs clapped Blair from the rafters when he resigned and made his final speech. Such is the state “representational democracy”, British Edition, in the 21st century. Thank goodness for 38 degrees. Still thinking of voting UKIP (or Green…)
I suspect the lack of any signatures for the EDM was because it was tabled by George Galloway
Got it one
Thought for the day – anyone noticed how many private communications regarding the Ukraine have been intercepted and made public by Putin’s puppets and received no little comment from the Eminences. Just a guess but if communications intercepted by the NSA and GCHQ rather than the KGB, and they painted Putinistas and terrorists in a similar light then the reaction of the Eminences would have been rather different and morally inconsistent.
For the avoidance of doubt I am against all blanket surveillance whoever it is performed by.
Craig
did you catch Sillars debate with Galloway BBC2 Scotland Monday 24th March. I’ve just about lost all the respect I had for him after the Iraq War. There was one good, true man in that debate ……it wasn’t Galloway!
“http://truthaboutgardasil.org/about-2/ ”
That should really read the half-truth about Gardasil. As usual with anti-vaccine propaganda websites it concentrates on the side effects and shies away from providing the full picture.
As of March 2013 22,000 people have reported side effects after a Gardasil “jab”. This is out of 57 MILLION doses administered since 2006 or 0.03% and 92% were classed as minor (ie rash or swelling). It may only protect against four types of virus but they are the most common types.
Nevermind. 10 23am
Ouch! Those bloody meercats are more trouble than they’re worth….almost.
I see where you are coming from and while I believe it’s fair to flag it, I don’t believe it invalidates the point Orlov is making . “…she is talking about murdering people like me.”
I’ve experienced and observed few of the permutations of national ingrained and unexamined attitudes…English towards Irish, Welsh and Scots, Catholic Irish towards Protestant Irish, and Walloon towards Flemish and vice versa. In this light I can accept your observation re Orlov’s casual reference to the Ukrainian language as a “village dialect” but feel that it is significant in the way that an English person might use phrases like, “throwing a paddy” or “taking the mickey” without necessarily realising their origins in a cultural soup of disparagement towards the Irish.
Ba’al Zevul pointed out that the “village dialect” remark is peripheral to the actual discussion (thanks B). It is, but it’s a worthy diversion and I’d love to spend a week drifting down the Dnieper with you on our canoe and listening while you fill me in with your perspective and broad knowledge.
Dad will look after the meercats, but for heaven’s sake don’t tell him before we’ve left.
ELSO. 1 15am
“If people want to quote chunks of extreme nationalists/racists then they should learn not to be so defensive when their cut and paste efforts are not subject to attack.”
Bless you. You seem to have some kind of psychic powers there, ‘cos I didn’t return till half an hour ago. I’m curious to know how I was being “so defensive” about a post that I was not to read for another eleven hours.
As for your accusation that Orlov writes extreme nationalists/racist material. Can you point out any of his writing that can be interpreted in this light. Thanks.
Kempe
“http://www.currentpartnering.com/insight/top-50-pharma/
http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/11/vaccination-profiteers-gang-up-on-hannah-bruesewitz-in-supreme-court/”
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And the two other links are no better.
The first gives us the astonishing news that the top 50 pharmaceutical companies “are responsible for a large proportion of the revenues generated by the pharmaceuticals industry”. No, really? Who’d have thought it!
And the second one isn’t even worth reading. It’s name (“disssidentvoice”) tells you all you need to know about the line it’s taking.
Its (the horrible apostrophe disease must be contagious. Is there a vaccination against it? On the NHS, of course)
Beyond hypocracy…
“Once again we are confronted with the belief among some that bigger nations can bully smaller ones to get their way…”
“…international law matters; and that people and nations can make their own decisions about their future….”
“Neither the United States, nor Europe, has any interest in controlling Ukraine…”
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-us-and-europe-must-stand-against-russia-in-a-clash-of-ideals/
“Your comment is awaiting moderation.”
WTF?
“WTF?”
You wouldn’t believe it if I told you Sofia, which I can’t or it would be sent for moderation.
Let’s just say there are some words we can’t say any more, such as the type of demolition the WTC was.
Fred.
But I only said “Breathtaking hypocracy”. Obama said the rest, and he’s the leader of the free world and a nobel lauriate.