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  • Ba'al Zevul (Chimp Assassin)

    Just a reminder that before Blair buggers off to Colombia he will be pontificating at the Aspen Ideas Festival (Aspen, CO) on the 30th June in an ‘Afternoon of Conversation’ in the Benedict Tent, starting 2 pm with Hilary Clinton. Order of speakers as yet unknown.

  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    Ba’al. I wonder if Blair would go to Aspen if HST had won his election with the promise to change it’s name to Fat City to ward off developers?

  • Ba'al Zevul (Chimp Assassin)

    LOL, Ben. If only, eh? I knew there was a resonance about Aspen – I read HST’s account some time ago, but couldn’t pin it down…thanks.

  • DoNNyDarKo

    A Node said it all- “Gilad Shalit”
    If there really had been teenagers abducted then Israel would be acting in a similar way to when Gilad was captured.But they haven’t. They’ve been doing the SS Bop through occupied Palestine causing absolute mayhem,killing 4 so far, the wounded don’t get mentioned.
    Had 3 children seriously been in danger then even the fascists in Tel Aviv would have held back.They haven’t therefore there are no kidnapped children.

  • Mary

    HST was a friend of Kerry I see here. Is that correct Ben?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson

    ~~~~

    That nice Mr Kerry (haircut in search of a brain) has unlocked $half a billion of military aid for Mr el-Sisi on his visit to Egypt. The annual US hand out is $2bn and most of that is military.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/22/us-egypt-usa-idUSKBN0EX0CL20140622

    So much for the hunger pains of the masses and their poverty stricken lives.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/8290133/Most-US-aid-to-Egypt-goes-to-military.html

  • Sofia

    I just got in and had a quick look at the day’s action here.

    Seems RD is still upset with my support for the people of East Ukraine in their resistence first to the coup installed junta in Kiev and lately to the indiscriminate slaughter by means of mob violence, heavy ordnance and white phosphorous.

    Do you ever worry that you might be getting a bit carried away?

    2 41pm “You and Sofia seem intent on writing a modern day version of the Zinoviev letter…” (You = John)

    Thanks, but let’s put flattery aside and get back to the present day.

    Here’s the thing RD. The evidence is there in hundreds of journalist and citizen shot photos and vidoes, hacked phone calls, threats and boasts by the perpetrators, medical records and testimonies of victims and maybe most significant, in the inevitable chemical and hardware residue from the numerous attack locations.

    Of the many crimes, four in particular need to be properly investigated and the perpetrators held to account.

    1) THE MARIUPOL KILLINGS – intentional killing of unarmed persons by government agents;

    2) ODESSA MASSACRE – carried out “unofficially” or by private groups with the government promoting and turning a blind eye to massacre

    3) LUGANSK BOMBINGS – indiscriminate civilian bombing (unlawful under Article 48, Geneva Convention);

    4) SLAVYANSK SHELLINGS- indiscriminate civilian killings by shelling (as above);

    5) KRAMATORSK SHELLINGS – indiscriminate civilian killings by shelling (as above).

    I think you missed this link so i’ll remind you to read it well…

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-ukraine-genocide-and-its-cheerleaders/5387825viv

    It doesn’t really matter that you don’t like people drawing attention to these matters. In fact I believe your persistent bleatings provide a good indicator of just where we should be looking.

    Last time I checked we still had the Geneva Convention, International Declaration of Human Rights, a slew of Torture legislation and more.

    Plenty of work for future tribunals and court cases IMO.

    So thanks again. Keep flagging up anything we’re missing.

    Courtenay.

    You always talk sense.

    If you are around could you offer any ideas as to how non-legal individuals like me can help bring these matters before the relevant courts.

    Thanks.

  • BrianFujisan

    Oooops

    Meant to Say Herbie, @ 20th.. 8;35 am –

    i seen your posted about the Presbyterian General Assembly vote Friday to divest. Bit late getting back on this, its the weather, or the World cup, or the Women, or the Noctilucent Clouds, AND the world cup.

    Here is some more on that –

    “The victory was for this reason far more significant than it appeared to be, as reported in mainstream media. It showed not only that rank-and-file Church members recognized the bankruptcy of the opposition, but that they also understood the facts on the ground and knew that these facts compelled Church divestment from the Occupation.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2014/06/accusation-presbyterians-witnessing.html

    And Also from Mondoweiss – From a regular Poster _

    can you explain what this means, in practical terms: Home States of business enterprises . . . may also take a role in providing a forum for remedy

    The Working Group took note of numerous Secretary General and UN reports that indicate the Government of Israel, and its judicial and administrative or ministerial legal forums, have played a leading role in the creation and expansion of the illegal settlements in the OPT. While it called upon Israel to abide by international law and to make businesses subject to its jurisdiction do the same, the Working Group pointed out that Israel should no longer have the last word or enjoy sovereign immunity on the subject of judicial relief or legal remedies for its own human rights violations or those facilitated, aided, or abetted by businesses. See Michael Sfard, “The legal tsunami is on its way” for additional information link to haaretz.com and link to newyorkconvention.org

    That seems to tie in with the very last paragraph

    Not exactly, the former is a message to state actors that says the government of Israel is complicit and shouldn’t be permitted to obstruct justice in cases where gross human rights violations have occurred. The latter is a warning to businesses, which are usually non-state actors, that they should begin to include liability for their own potential human rights violations in connection with their operations in the OPT and either provide a remedy, wherever possible, or cooperate with treaty bodies, arbitrators, or the courts, i.e. “legitimate processes”, in providing remediation.

    The big news is the discussion about criminal liability of businesses under existing international law with regard to the illegal settlements. That will provide more momentum for large institutional investors to pull their capital out of the banks and businesses that aid and abet the illegal settlement enterprise.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2014/06/in-turning-point-vote-presbyterians-divest-from-occupation-linked-corporations.html

  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    Mary; Hunter could talk to Nixon about football, but John Kerry is not the same man he was. Add to that; when Kerry ran for POTUS in 2004, he was past his prime. What is the saying; ‘If I’d known I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself’?

    He killed himself by eating a shotgun shell early in 2005 after Bush won re-election. HST was a Warrior, but he became a shadow of himself through indulgences. I don’t think I can take anything away from one of our Country’s greatest original thinkers and journalists.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=thompson/041102

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    From Fred : “AS for the SMILING part it is not possible to confer anything from either photo. Someone who was worried their child was dead or injured would SMILE on being informed they were alive and well.”

    And from Andy : “Fred: Please try not to disappoint the most important person poster but perhaps you have hit the nail on the head! Maybe they have just been told that very news.”
    ___________________-

    If that is so, how should one interpret the tone of Andy’s caption, viz : “Do these look like suffering parents desperate to hear positive news about their kidnapped children?”? How can one reconcile that caption with the comment of Andy’s I have reproduced above?

    Man up, Andy, being caught out is what happens to commenters who try to be clever-clever when Habbabkuk’s around.

  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    “Man up, Andy, being caught out is what happens to commenters who try to be clever-clever when Habbabkuk’s around.”

    Quoting another scion of conservative puffery; “You’re a legend in your own mind”

    Really, habbasuck you are jumping your own shark when you are the only cheerleader puffing on the lack of goals your team records on their path to defeat.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Mary

    “There is something fishy going on. A false flag to wreck any coming together of Fatah and Hamas in all probability.”
    _________________

    You have convinced me, Mary. The three youths have been hidden by Mossad on Diego Garcia, where they are keeping the passengers and crew of the missing Malaysian airliner company. (Ask Mr Goss about the airliner).

  • Resident Dissident

    Sofia

    I am not denying that Putin and his friends are trying to provoke violent unrest in Eastern Ukraine and that then illicits a military response from the Ukrainian govt and Ukrainian citizens who take matters into their own hands – this is of course part of Putin’s aim to destabilise the whole of the Ukraine and then of course you and your friends deny that there is any Russian provocation (Vineyard Saker made this transparently clear). But I will again repeat my earlier challenge which you and the other Putin creatures have studiously avoided:

    “Perhaps you point out what violence was occurring in Eastern Ukraine BEFORE the arrival of the little green men from Russia and Putin’s Chechen puppet, or the tanks, armoured troop carriers, SAM missiles etc.”

    I could easily point to atrocities carried out by the fascists of Novorossiya (who count Zhirinovsky and other fascists among their friends) but that really isn’t the point. I just don’t think you are prepared to acknowledge that Putin’s interference in the affairs of the Ukraine has many many years is the main cause of the problems within the Ukraine rather than any Western/NATO plot.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Someone is taking himself a tad too seriously, I think:

    “… my support for the people of East Ukraine in their resistence..”

    “my support”??? Do you mean by bleating away on the internet?

    and

    “If you are around could you offer any ideas as to how non-legal individuals like me can help bring these matters before the relevant courts.”

    I have 10 shekels which say that you’ll do bugger all, ideas or not.

    Habbabkuk recommends courses in reducing pomposity, increasing self-awareness and improving spelling (“resistence”).

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    California Ben

    Now you’re back with us, perhaps you’d give some thought to answering a question I put to you earlier today? It was :

    “Just to be able to evaluate your bona fides, so to speak – apart from frequently sounding off on this blog (and perhaps on others?)- what do you do in concrete and practical terms to support the Palestinian cause and help the Palestinian people?”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Looking forward to your answer, but not holding my breath, of course.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    I do hope you’re not just an armchair warrior, a paper tiger, Ben?

    ‘Cos you always sound so FIERCE on here!

  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    “‘Cos you always sound so FIERCE on here!”

    Let’s just say you wouldn’t want to confront me in some wayward Pub.

  • Sofia

    RD. 11 33pm

    I must be a bit thick because I can’t for the life of me think of anything done in the name of the East Ukrainians that comes anywhere near the violence meted out by the Nuland Banderite Junta.

    However, since you say you can easily point them out, let me invite you to do just that. Then let’s compare.

    Here’s another perspective for you regarding the heroes who you are so keen to defend.

    http://richardedmondson.net/2014/04/27/christian-zionists-neo-nazis-jewish-banderas-a-ukrainian-mazel-tov/

  • John Goss

    US just equalised with a great goal from Germaine Jones (who he?). Do not know how much they have paid Ronaldo to miss umpteen chances but it must have been a lot. All that talent and he resorts to crookery. Twat.

  • A Node

    No crookery, John.
    The US are playing with bravery and self-belief. They’ve just taken the lead and they deserve to be ahead.

  • John Goss

    US playing very well. 2 -1 to them now. Dempsey (who he?) the scorer. Unlike RD I do not think sportsmen are not responsible for their governments actions. US will qualify if it stays like this. Good luck to them. Well done Nani for not taking a bribe!

  • BrianFujisan

    ANode… Yes u.s playing magic…

    well deserved goal… Ronaldo dancin on the ball earlier … Prima fk Donna ..I’m the best in the world,,,yip so is Rooney…. Except…Total crap

    Anyone think MESSI can’t dance – JUST TO SHOW OFF

  • A Node

    A great cross from Ronaldo to set up a last minute equaliser. He’s going to have to hand back his bribe.

    Another great game.

  • Ropeadope

    When Resident Dissident gets in these pissing contests he tends to harp on an isolated point in a blinkered, almost autistic, fashion and then flounce off abruptly in imaginary triumph. Maybe it worked in debate at comprehensive school or something. It’s quite manipulative. In this ‘Ahmed’ case he’s trying hard to ignore several historical factors. One important thing he conceals is that the ECHR makes a point of refusing to apply its own CIDT standards to America. That matters because America acceded to the relevant international law in bad faith – ask the the Human Rights Committee. The US spent decades trying to gut international torture prohibitions, while drafting the instruments and when it executed them in municipal law. The US official line on psychological torture is, ‘it’s not torture, it’s compulsion.’ Confessions are coerced in a ‘plea bargaining’ process, and any judge in say, Germany, where courts are independent, would shitcan a travesty like that before you could turn around. So when some poor sap signs a confession it means about as much as when a Trotskyite emerges repentant from the Lubyanka.

    If he wants to maintain some semblance of honest discourse, Resident Dissident will shut up until he’s read and grasped a minimal amount of historical documentation:

    http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pst.000016129474;view=1up;seq=1
    http://www.ushrnetwork.org/sites/ushrnetwork.org/files/catrecommendations2006.pdf

  • BrianFujisan

    Hands up well crossed in…you can see he looks over…Well Placed…

    Still a Prima… and not the best…Anyhoo Good Game…

  • John Goss

    Great cross from Ronaldo. Would you believe it? He’d probably only been paid to miss goals. 2 – 2 and a magnificent header from who?

  • Ben-LA PACQUTE LO ES TODO

    ” Unlike RD I do not think sportsmen are not responsible for their governments actions.”

    Is that a typo, John? Sports should be apolitical, IMO. I would hate to think you share Craig’s bigotry toward Americans.

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