Miliband Goes the Full Henry Jackson 110


Full on neo-con philosophy underpinned Miliband’s “speech” to the Royal Institute of International Affairs yesterday. Miliband acknowledged that our bombing of Libya back to the stone age was the root cause of the boat people crisis.

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But Miliband was not admitting that the Guernica style massacre was wrong – he voted for it. No, he was going the full Henry Jackson and arguing that what had been needed was neo-colonial occupation of Libya in order to reform its institutions – precisely as had been done in Iraq. And we all know how that went.

This is a blow to those who believed that Miliband was different from Blair, Brown, Murphy and his brother. In fact, the entire “speech” could have been written by the Henry Jackson Society. It bemoans the decline of the authority of international institutions like the UN and International Court of Justice, but states that this is because they had failed – and failed in particular to back western military intervention everywhere. Miliband argues that the solution is for individual states to take unilateral armed action abroad, but bemoans that this is more difficult because of cuts in western defence budgets. He wants increased defence spending to fund increased military intervention abroad. He does not acknowledge that it is precisely unilateral western military action in attacking other states which has destroyed the authority of the UN in the first place.

The “speech” is in fact a series of slogans, loosely connected. Both the content and the style say a huge amount about the depths to which our civic society has sunk. The prospect of this intellectual midget and neo-con lickspittle becoming Prime Minister is frankly appalling.

The RIIA, better known as Chatham House, does not normally hear lectures written by somebody incapable of constructing a paragraph of more than ten words. It would give me great pleasure if you would be so kind just to glance at the lecture I gave to Chatham House eleven years ago. Of course it is on a much more specific subject than Miliband’s neo-con declaration of faith, but I still feel I come rather well out of the contrast.

Rather like those Soviet parade photos where the nomenklatura got airbrushed out after execution, all trace of my lecture has disappeared from the Chatham House website.


110 thoughts on “Miliband Goes the Full Henry Jackson

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  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Mary

    “Please someone get incontinence pads for the trolls!”

    ________________

    Can you recommend the best value-for-money brand from personal experience? Of so, please share!

  • John Goss

    “I’m afraid any dialectic is impossible.”

    You wouldn’t know what dialectic was if you couldn’t use “shady” sixth column sources to back up your warmongering stance. Why do you think Russia did not seek Karimov’s help before sanctions were imposed? What were they imposed for? That’s right! In support of your fascists.

  • JimmyGiro

    I am convinced that it is not religion per se that is the root of war, but romanticism.

    Since everybody does what they believe to be right, to progress with any plan in a fragmented and individualistic world, the idealist must thwart as much opposition as possible, whilst gaining support. Hence politics aims to either persuade you to relinquish your beliefs, or to encourage you to evangelical excess. The latter risks encroaching into our sense of the unreal, our mythos, our dreams and hopes; the stuff of romance.

    Political evangelism is therefore anti-religious, because it appeals to romantic notions of Utopia in the here and now, rather than the supernatural of a personal religion, which resists change, as it is out of reach, over the rainbow.

    The very act of ‘changing’ somebody’s mind, is an act of arrogance; it presumes their beliefs are wrong. Rhetoric is used to ease the subversion; and the original rhetoric was poetry, the art of shining shit.

    In stead of celebrating our differences with natural prejudice, the western ‘democracies’ are appealing to socialist tropes of ‘togetherness’; and the brutal orthodoxy of equality, the poetic mantra of a Marxist death cult.

    The corollary to this is Ed Miliband’s leadership; what you can’t shine, you can always roll in fandabidozi glitter. And if your leaders have no apparent virtues, why should you bother to be virtuous yourself? Simply live the dream, here and now, and forever! Come on in, the Borg is fine.

    In such a ‘reality’, a true leader would be a threat; to be deposed with extreme prejudice.

  • fedup

    cannot take seriously what any major Brit politician has to say about international events — they have shown themselves over and over again as nothing more than poodles for American power. The problem resides inside the US. Once the US (if it ever does) come to its senses then we can expect to see the Brits obediently following. Without that Labor, tories, Lib Dems or whatever will not (or so far have not shown any ability to) change their thinking.

    The current kabuki regards elections, is a mere distraction for the punters, whom have the choice between extreme right wing (Hitler was a communist kind), rabid right wing (Tories), and right wing (Labour) with Libdems in place to shim in the extra bums on the seats to validate our “unwritten” constitution (can change on a dime and no one can dispute it) to uphold the same arrangements as before, but with a new lot of gofers and errand boys.

    The notion of “Human rights” and to lesser degrees “Feminism” and “LGBT” are the magicians assistant to keep the show on the road without the punters comprehending the fraud that has been perpetrated on them.

    The daily dose of anti Muslim hatred, and the general xenophobia which seems to have become currency internationally across the globe; are part and parcel of governance methods, shaping our world post the 9/11 “apocalypse”.

    Those bandying the human rights would never elaborate on these rights, other than “freedom of expression/speech” or “freedom of choice” slogans, meaningless and empty rhetoric. How many pensioners are eating cat food because they cannot afford to buy food? How many working families are dependent on the food banks? How many homeless people are left at the mercy of elements?

    The fact that is always highlighted is the torture and incarceration of the johnny foreigner whose human rights are abused, but then there is Gitmo and the “terrorists” held there, without any trials and just like the “arbeit macht frei” camps, at least those camps had bigger rooms, and inmates were allowed to mix and live in proper rooms not wire mesh chicken coops, but hey did I tell you Gaddafi was a dictator and Libyans had no freedom of speech?

    The whole of the Muslim population in the West is under a sustained campaign of coercion and directed hatred, did I tell you Gaddafi was a dictator and Libyans had no freedom of speech?

    Palestinians are slaughtered and subject to a slow genocide, did I tell Gaddafi was a dictator and Libyans had no freedom of speech?

    The simple fact is the fraudulent monetary system is kept in place on the back of the unfortunate targets of the psychotics whom portray their psychosis as their concern for “human rights” and the “rights of man” whilst their paid or ideological shills reinforce the narrative, to inebriate the population into a stupor and keep the system operative.

    Did I tell you Gaddafi was a dictator and Libyans had no freedom of speech?

  • Resident Dissident

    Why do you think Russia did not seek Karimov’s help before sanctions were imposed?

    Oh dear

    “In June 2012 Vladimir Putin and Islam Karimov signed a declaration in Tashkent on promoting their strategic partnership. It provided an assessment of their bilateral cooperation and prospects of its development in the United Nations, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the Commonwealth of Independent States and the Collective Security Treaty Organization.”

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Things must be desperate for the Original Trolls and Useful Idiots to have wheeled out poor Fedup!

    Barrel, bottom of, scraping 🙂

  • John Goss

    Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. So much to learn, so little time. Never mind.

    2012, the year Uzbekistan withdrew from the CSTO? Of course Russia trades with all its neighbours, including Ukraine. Would you say relations between those two countries were clement? As I said sanctions pushed Russia into sending its president to visit the dictator, Islam Karimov, and further agreements were made to buy more food.

  • John Goss

    Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Did Resident Dissident deliberately leave out the last sentence of this paragraph from the Valdai Discussion Club article.

    “The time that has elapsed since the last meeting of the Russian and Uzbek presidents has been one of the most dramatic periods in the countries’ bilateral relations. In June 2012 Vladimir Putin and Islam Karimov signed a declaration in Tashkent on promoting their strategic partnership. It provided an assessment of their bilateral cooperation and prospects of its development in the United Nations, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the Commonwealth of Independent States and the Collective Security Treaty Organization. Before long, Tashkent announced its intention to suspend its membership in the CSTO.”

    http://valdaiclub.com/near_abroad/57860.html

    Deliberate or accident?

    Answers on a postcard, or post them here!

  • John Goss

    First and last sentence omitted – the two most important sentences in giving the article authenticity. Selective quoting is what RD does all the time, whether it is from articles or comments on here. When he is not doing that he is making quotes up and ascribing them to those who comment because he has never ever come out top in a debate.

  • Peter

    Sadly all very true – and it is right that we should be reminded of that fact.

    The thing to bear in mind is that Miliband would simply never have been +allowed+ to occupy the position that he does if he offered any alternative to neo-con policies.

    Anyone who expects that a Labour government – unlikely thought that is – would differ in any substantial way from the Condem coalition is frankly deluding themselves.

    Just look at the major figures in these parties: virtually any one could fit into any party with scarcely a ruffled feather.

  • Free Speech

    The Board of Deputies has already arranged for a grand coalition of zios and cryptos to bomb Syria/Iran after the election, I am afraid. All we can do now at this late hour is lie back and think of England.

  • Anon1

    I believe the photographs show the damage inflicted to the the city of Sirte by one month of heavy artillery and rocket fire. How many civilians did Nato kill in Sirte again, Craig?

  • Mary

    11.43am Sorry I cannot help. My last experience in using these products was nearly 30 years ago when I used to buy them for my late mother who lived with us and for whom I cared for the last eight years of her life. OK?

  • Peter

    Craig.

    Re the RIIA, I meant to add that I did just try a search of their website for “craig murray” on the (slim!) offchance that you might just have tried them on off-day.

    But their search engine could find no matches at all, though it did politely ask if I had meant to search for “crash murky” instead. As you suggest, your speech has gone the same way as all those 1930s photos of Yagoda and Yezhov et al.

    Funny to think I once applied for a job there. Glad I didn’t get it.

    And thanks once again for one of the few political blogs that’s worth reading. I might not always agree with what you say, but I do respect it.

  • Mary

    I will put up a link to Radio 4 Any Questions which came from Logie Goldstone (Sp?) in Aberdeenshire. Some interesting questions were put to Liam Fox, as smooth tongued as ever, Lord Faulkner, BLiar’s accomplice in getting Dr Kelly’s inquest squelched, Stuart Howie and the LD MP Jo Swinson.

    The first question was on the topic of Craig’s post here and the last on Janner. There was also one on Trident, Stuart Josie’s reply to which received enormous applause from the audience. Fox went through a list of countries that possess nuclear weapons (defending Trident of course) and he also mentioned the NPT. He never included Israel in the list of nuclear powers nor the present of Dolfin submarines from Germany to Israel, capable of launching nuclear weaponry.

  • Resident Dissident

    What I find touching about Putin’s Valdai club website is how Uzbekistan is part of the “Near Abroad” – what is special about the “Near Abroad” – is it part of Goss’s homeland or Russian Empire, despite the fact that Tashkent is further from Moscow than London both in miles and many other ways?

  • Keith Crosby

    If you were in the boss class and found it expedient to have a human dustbin nearby, like mid-C19th Ireland and the Highlands or the Generalgouvernment 1939-1944, what wouldn’t you do to the place, that the US and its lackeys have done to Libya/Palestine/Syria/Nicaragua/east Hull etc?

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Mary

    “I will put up a link to Radio 4 Any Questions which came from Logie Goldstone (Sp?) in Aberdeenshire. Some interesting questions were put to Liam Fox, as smooth tongued as ever, Lord Faulkner, BLiar’s accomplice in getting Dr Kelly’s inquest squelched, Stuart Howie and the LD MP Jo Swinson.

    The first question was on the topic of Craig’s post here and the last on Janner. There was also one on Trident, Stuart Josie’s reply to which received enormous applause from the audience.”
    __________________

    Actually that’s Stuart HOSIE, Mary.

    A silver-tongued, slippery so-and-so if there ever was one. He did a Michael Howard on a BBC Radio 4 interviewer a couple of weeks ago when questioned about whether he saw any moral difficulty and hypocrisy in getting rid of Trident (ie, nuclear weapons)while at the same time remaining under the (NATO) nuclear umbrella.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Re the Chatham House website and Craig’s lecture:

    Just to be clear

    1/. are we talking about the text of a lecture actually delivered?

    2/. does the website carry other lectures delivered back then – ie, is Craig’s lecture the only one which has disappeared – or does the website only go back for a certain number of years – ie, have all the lectures of that time disappeared?

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Mary

    “11.43am Sorry I cannot help. My last experience in using these products was nearly 30 years ago when I used to buy them for my late mother who lived with us and for whom I cared for the last eight years of her life. OK?”
    ___________________

    Given the obviously sad memories which incontinence pads bring back to you (cf your post, above), why on earth did you choose to use them as an insult when you addressed me (and a few others) at 11h41 (“Please someone get incontinence pads for the trolls!”)?

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Resident Dissident

    “…and too addled to remember”

    ____________________

    That made me laugh, RD! I like the notion of Mr Goss being “too addled”.

    Actually, it could explain some of his posts and irrational outbursts. I must check to see whether his most egregious posts are made late-osh in the evening after he’s been at his Merlot!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Memo to Mr Goss : shouldn’t you be drinking Crimean wines rather than Merlot – to show solidarity with Vlad the Bad?

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    15h34 – isn’t it about time “Lysias” clocked on with some more stuff on his current obsession (aka Lord Janner)?

    But I hope he makes it original for a change – we can read the UK papers for ourselves.

  • Republicofscotland

    Is anyone really surprised by the orations of Ed Miliband,afterall he and his brother are confirmed narcissistic careerists.

    In today Herald newspaper David Miliband claims he’ll be voting for his brother Ed in the GE,a quick witted columnist points out that Ed should check the ballot paper,just make sure.

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