Total Bollocks From MI5 353


In the last decade, now 7/7 has dropped out of this statistic, only one person has been killed in the UK by an Islamic terrorist attack. Let me repeat that. In the last decade, one person has been killed in the UK by an Islamic terrorist attack. That unfortunate death was Lee Rigby.

Rigby’s tragic murder illustrated how easy it is for terrorists to commit an outrage. Two very disorganised Nigerian nutters murdered him with knives. Unfortunately, if a couple of nutters decide to go at someone on the street, they have a high chance of success.

Which is why you would have to be a lunatic actually to believe MI5’s repeated claims during the last decade that there are thousands of dedicated terrorists out there, fanatical determined and organised, but in a decade of constant effort they have succeeded in killing nobody else. There were, MI5 claim, six actual terrorist plots this year but fortunately MI5 saved all of us.

If you believe MI5’s stories, there are two possibilities. The first is that we have security services of a quite incredible efficiency, able to foil random terrorism, generally regarded as near impossible. The second is that we have thousands of dedicated terrorists of such incredible ineptitude that they can’t manage to kill anybody, even when they could choose any random undefended target in the entire UK and any method from knives to poison to hit and run to shooting to bombs, and don’t mind losing their own lives in the attempt. We have rubbish terrorists.

There is of course a third possibility – that these thousands of dedicated terrorists and these scores of foiled plots in the last decade were inventions, or at least the grossest exaggerations, by the security services. A number of fantasists have indeed been convicted and jailed. But the only, single, potential attacker in recent years who actually possessed a viable bomb was a British army soldier with a hatred of Muslims. And naturally he was not counted as nor convicted as a terrorist. Terrorists are Muslims.

The famous “liquid bomb plot”, in which it eventually transpired, unreported by mainstream media, that there were in fact no bombs and no plane tickets and the suspicious chemical found in baby bottles was Milton sterilising solution for baby bottles, is perhaps the best example.

But of course, lots of people are convicted of terrorism. Indeed law after law has stretched the definition of terrorism so far that I am almost certainly guilty of it just by publishing this blogpost. Meanwhile the Government is concentrating on bullying universities and students to ban speakers who say exactly the kind of thing I am writing here, speakers who protest against the detention and harassment of Muslims, and the continued policy of bombing Muslim countries and killing civilians.

Because there is almost no Islamic terrorism in the UK. It is virtually non-existent. It is not the true reason the corporate state wants ever more surveillance power, ever more restriction on freedom of speech and even, in universities, freedom of thought. Do not be fooled. Fight back.


353 thoughts on “Total Bollocks From MI5

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  • Kempe

    You need to read the toxicology report which checked for a wide range of drugs and your link quotes a book published in 1844! Do you not think the science of forensics might’ve moved on a bit in the past 171 years?

    Yes I’d love to know how you can be so precise with your timings; and why they needed a helicopter and a boat and the location of this conveniently located “safe house”.

  • Peter Beswick

    Kempe

    You betray an ignorance that is unique of which you should guard well.

    Medicine has moved on but the text to which I refer you to is a seminal work (no pun intended) humans have moved on since cave man days (most of us) but in the last 200 years death reflexes have remained constant unless you can prove to me and the medical world otherwise.

    I don’t know where the safe house is but it is probably where Kelly stayed on the 9th July.

    I’ve read the toxicology reports (more than one of them did you know?) they has big omissions, inaccuracies and puzzling conclusions. Not that you would understand and I’m not about to explain.

    I knew you were going to ask about the flight times because I worked out how stupid you are.

    30 minutes before sunrise is the earliest legal time to land a helicopter at an unlicensed landing site (I know; what did the people flying a body in care about the law? But pilots especially military can be funny creatures however it is also safer).

    Sunrise, 5.04 am on 18th July 2003. I’ll do the maths for you – Half an hour before = 4.34am

    Police helicopter from Luton had been scanning the area (IR), specifically Harrowdown Hill earlier but was running low on fuel so went to refuel at Brize Norton.

    The pilot was also running low on legal flying hours (these pilots what are they like?) but before heading back to Luton did another quick recky of Harrowdown Hill.

    The Helicopter re-arrived at the scene at 4.35 am, tootled about for a bit and departed 10 minutes later for home.

    That helicopter did not have the body in it, it was used as a decoy by the helicopter that was above the Kelly home at 1 am earlier in the morning.

    At this point I was going to let you answer your question – why they needed the boat? – yourself but on reflection you may need some help. The delivery needed to be made quickly, the helicopter could not hang around on the ground, I will let you work out why.

    And why they needed a helicopter? They didn’t they could have carried the body from the safe house even if it was in the middle of Oxford but they decided against that for some reason or other.

    Now I have been doing all the explaining which patently isn’t fair given Craigs strict adherence to fairness so tell me how and why the body was moved, how and why more blood was added to the scene, how Kelly was able to place the water bottle in the position it was in, how it refilled with water after the forensic team departed and how did Kelly die from blood loss when he had a shit load of blood left in his body and how co proximal poisoning assisted when he only had a 5th of one tablet in him.

    Until then I will not be answering any of your inane, immature, puerile questions.

    I can guarantee you one thing Kempe, you will have royally pissed off Mi5. Stay safe!

  • Republicofscotland

    “I’ve no real idea whether he’s a MI5 asset, or just a useful idiot of theirs. But in promoting that runaway dustcart as a serious “false-flag” operation, do you not feel Spivey’s credibility just a bit undermined? Then – just like Alex Jones when he goes on to discuss genuine concerns, is the entire source not undermined and more readily dismissed?

    Do you not see why sources need to be credible, as points of reference for political understandings?”
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    What makes you think the Bin Lorry report by Spivey (very extensive I might add) is nonsense?

    A source needs to be credible…said Glenn

    Credible by who’s standards Glenn? Yours? The British governments? The press?

    No need to apologise Glenn

    Glenn said..In a 38 degrees meeting the other day, I was distressed to see some deluded Alex Jones believer entirely discredit himself by referencing the chem-trails, by which the Secret Government was poisoning us..

    Alex Jones that’s your probable CIA asset, now putting Jones aside for one moment. What hard evidence do you have Glenn to utterly disprove the existence of Chemtrails?

    You offer nothing Glenn but conjecture, so far, I’ll stick with Spivey, but not Mr Jones.

  • Kempe

    ” What makes you think the Bin Lorry report by Spivey (very extensive I might add) is nonsense? ”

    He’s probably read it.

  • Kempe

    ” What hard evidence do you have Glenn to utterly disprove the existence of Chemtrails? ”

    Ahh the familiar cry of the Lesser Spotted Conspiracy Theorist. You cannot disprove it therefore it must be true! Somebody catch that teapot on it’s next orbit please, I could do with a brew.

    The emphasis is on AJ and the other crackpots to provide the evidence that chemtrails exist. This they’ve failed to do.

  • Kempe

    ” 30 minutes before sunrise is the earliest legal time to land a helicopter at an unlicensed landing site (I know; what did the people flying a body in care about the law? But pilots especially military can be funny creatures however it is also safer). ”

    Is that the best you can do? You’re all over the place. Kelly was last seen at 1530 the previous day walking towards Harrowdown Hill where his body was found the following day. How, and why, was he taken from there to some mythical safe house and the body brought back by an apparently silent and invisible helicopter the pilot of which despite being involved in a murder stuck rigidly to aviation rules and procedures?

  • glenn

    Kempe: I find myself in agreement yet again. Watch it, this is becoming a habit.

    “The emphasis is on AJ and the other crackpots to provide the evidence that chemtrails exist. This they’ve failed to do.

    Precisely. Extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence. Not, any outlandish claim requires strong proof of a negative in order to counter it.

    Re. the runaway dustcart lunacy from Spivey:
    He’s probably read it.

    I did, with increasing incredulity, not to say growing suspicion that this wasn’t some extensive satire of conspiracy theorists – going a bit overlong in the attempt, actually. I’m still not sure if Spivey is just having a laugh, or if he’s genuinely insane.

    Incidentally, I was going to introduce the Celestial Teapot into the discussion, but became too disheartened at RoS’s reply to bother doing so. Horses to water and all that.

  • Republicofscotland

    I see you’ve gotten Kempe in on the act, no surprise there then,does Kempe also agree with you that your man whathisname is a CIA asset. A guy that you mentioned not me.

    Recap, so according to your logic, anyone who questions the official story is either a CIA asset or a MI5 asset…or mad.

    Brilliant.

    Now you’re introducing celestial teapots,to the conversation…are feeling okay old boy.

  • Peter Beswick

    RoS there is no possible reason why I should like you because you appear to be affiliated to Scotland and I am English and therefore superior but I am prepared to make an offer of allegiance despite our people paying for your children to be educated at the expense of our children and oil has nothing to do with it and Robbie t’B probably had OCD anyway.

    What I propose is that we do big jobs and throw them at our enemies because writing these word things, well they seem impervious to that. What do you think? I’m touching cloth as an old enemy once said near me but not to me (he wouldn’t dare) so our action plan can be put into action almost immediately.

  • Republicofscotland

    No luck Glenn, looks like your little ruse in the Art of Pig Sticking thread has backfired….spectacularly.

    Anyone for celestial tea?

  • Peter Beswick

    RoS

    You are most kind, as a jester of my steam I have placed 6 x No. 8’s, 6 x no. 10’s and 2 x no. 12’s (for emergency use only) for your peronal use in a private magazine only accesssable by you.

    Its left me a bit low and I’m sure you prefer to use your own numbers but when you are in a corner you never know.

    You don’t have to thank me now and you don’t have to repay my numbers, I’ll soon be replenished.

  • Republicofscotland

    “You are most kind,”
    _____________________

    Why thank you Pete, or whoever you are, oh I wouldn’t go as far as to say you’re a jester, no Pete, being a jester take skill and timing, and a witty punchline.

    No Pete I’m afraid, being a jester, is something you can only aspire too….nevermind, you’ve still got your numbers to play with. I would offer you a seven and a nine had I, had them, but I’m araid all I can give for now anyway, is a bunch of fives…metaphorically speaking that is…good day.

  • Republicofscotland

    “Yes I did, because it’s entirely relevant to the point at hand. I thought a man as erudite as yourself would be well versed with the concept:”
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    I’ve came across it Glenn on sites where people debated the existence of God.

    So how about Glenn, is Spivey any less credible than MI5 or the CIA, or any other secret service that carries out covert ops, in their own countries, that the masses don’t know about.

    If you answer yes please provide reasons why Spiveys indepth articles, make him a crackpot.

    Afterall you can’t just deride Spivey without proving why.

    Thanks.

  • glenn

    RoS: Thanks for the above at 7:51pm. Your responses to the Celestial Teapot (which you clearly knew nothing about whatsoever prior to a few minutes ago) is precisely why I was too disheartened to introduce the subject here, in anticipation thereof.

  • Republicofscotland

    On the contrary Glenn, I should be thanking,you and I’ll tell you why, no matter how many times I ask you (and there’s been many) to give even a reasonable explanation as too why you think Spivey is a crackpot or MI5 agent, you have failed miserably at every turn.

    If anything Glenn, you’ve strengthened my opinion of Spivey….thanks.

  • glenn

    That’s great, RoS – I’m glad you’re happy. If I’ve achieved anything today, that’s something to be satisfied about.

  • Kempe

    Well if the Glasgow bin lorry crash and the Shoreham air crash were “false flags” as Spivey claims then a great deal of effort and expense must’ve gone into the planning and execution. There were 50,000 spectators at Shoreham. Where they all “crisis actors”? The question then is one of motive and why it would justify such effort.

  • Mary

    Profiled
    From Radio to Porn, British Spies Track Web Users’ Online Identities
    Ryan Gallagher

    Sep. 25 2015
    https://theintercept.com/2015/09/25/gchq-radio-porn-spies-track-web-users-online-identities/

    ‘THERE WAS A SIMPLE AIM at the heart of the top-secret program: Record the website browsing habits of “every visible user on the Internet.”

    Before long, billions of digital records about ordinary people’s online activities were being stored every day. Among them were details cataloging visits to porn, social media and news websites, search engines, chat forums, and blogs.

    The mass surveillance operation — code-named KARMA POLICE — was launched by British spies about seven years ago without any public debate or scrutiny. It was just one part of a giant global Internet spying apparatus built by the United Kingdom’s electronic eavesdropping agency, Government Communications Headquarters, or GCHQ.

    The revelations about the scope of the British agency’s surveillance are contained in documents obtained by The Intercept from National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden. Previous reports based on the leaked files have exposed how GCHQ taps into Internet cables to monitor communications on a vast scale, but many details about what happens to the data after it has been vacuumed up have remained unclear.’

  • mike

    Oh dear Craig. We agree on 95 per cent of everything, but on Russia we are not singing from the same hymn sheet !

    Georgia was a neocon op right down to the Israeli training of their army. The useful idiot Saakashvili has popped up in Ukraine for another bite at the bear-baiting apple. It is Kiev that routinely threatens the Minsk agreements, not the United Armed Forces of Novorossiya. Hell, the clue’s in the name – New Russia, except the Kremlin doesn’t want a formal union.

    Cutting Russian naval access to the Med was and is a neocon goal. Hence the Russian counter-move on Crimea – and hence their increased presence in Latakia, though stopping ISIS getting their hooks into Central Asia (paging Prince Bandar !) is also focussing minds.

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