T Without Clumpas 64


Someone has today amended the Wikipedia entry for T in the Park to reinstate Stuart Clumpas as co-founder with Ellis. That is still not quite true – Clumpas was the founder and Ellis worked for him – but it is certainly much better.

I appreciate this post is of limited interest to most people, but it is curious to me. There is currently a row about a decision to give 150,000 of Creative Scotland’s money to the highly commercial and profitable T in the Park festival. My take on that is that it was a bad decision within Creative Scotland.

The founder of T in the Park was an old university friend of mine, Stuart Clumpas. Stuart ran – with breathtaking brilliance – the entertainments at Dundee University students union while I was President. It seems incredible now, but we had the biggest bands in the country on a regular basis, including the world premier of a Mike Oldfield album, and the Pretenders while Brass in Pocket was number 1, Dexy’s Midnight Runners just as they hit, and much else. Stuart was truly amazing. With his collaborator John Reid he went on to establish an entertainments company – I used to hear these two students cooking up their plans over pints. Within six months they had the biggest nightclub in Dundee (Fat Sam’s), within a couple more the biggest in Glasgow (King Tut’s). Stuart went on to found both T in the Park and the V Festivals. I haven’t seen him since about 1984, rather to my regret. Last I heard, third hand, he sold his festival interests and retired down under.

Anyway, the point of that trip down memory lane is that the current controversy over T in the Park led me to look it up on Wikipedia. I found that, extraordinarily, the T in the Park page makes no mention whatsoever of Stuart Clumpas, and attempts to create the impression that it was founded by its current director Geoff Ellis, who it says “was involved from the start” and “organised the first T in the Park festival”. Well, he did some of the organisation, but only as an employee of Stuart Clumpas, who has been airbrushed from the T in the Park Wikipedia page as though he were a former Soviet leader taken out of the photo.

This is an interesting comment on the integrity of Wikipedia. But it is also an interesting comment on the integrity of Mr Ellis. That Wikipedia page had the unmistakeable feel of a promotional page which has been heavily written and edited either by Mr Ellis or by someone working on behalf of Mr Ellis. And if Geoff Ellis is the kind of shyster who would falsely claim to have founded T in the Park and edit out the real founder, does that cast a light on the morality of the rather dubious 150,000 payment?

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  • fred

    “The £150,000 was money well spent to help move site. The traffic chaos will have to be sorted out. The Scottish Gov gives money to support, Ballet, Opera, Museums, Edinburgh Festival, Beer festivals – local communities social activities, Gaelic culture music, so why not support other fun for folk. T in the Park is transmitted worldwide and shows off the Scottish landscape. It gives young folk and oldies looks of fun.”

    Yes there are a lot of worthy causes in Scotland.

    But only one with the partner of an SNP leader arranging private meetings with ministers for a fee.

  • Ken2

    The Scottish Gov is open to any appeal from many contributors. They go out and talk to te people and are totally approachable. T in the Park was a great cause, bringing £Millions into the economy and gives pleasure to millions. Oversubscribed. A great decision by a listening Gov. Supported by the majority in Scotland. Ballet, Opera, Theatre, Mod, Gaelic get support it is quite legitimate to give T in the Park support to move location. The majority in Scotland would agree. The problem is the BBC bring in annoying commentators who grate on viewers.

  • Ken2

    The UK Gov allows wealthy patrons to tax evade £Billions in tax to give to Opera, Film companies etc.

  • Ken2

    Lobbyists in Westminster (including M.P’s) secretly lobby for £Billions of public funds to be miss spent, not in the majority wishes or public interest. Westminster is institutionally corrupt. Cash for Honours, MP expenses, abusing children, illegal wars, sanction and starving people to death at home and abroad, cutting NHS/ Education spending in real terms. Not raising enough revenues to fund NHS /Education in the rest of the UK. UK tax Laws not being enforced and major tax evasion. Starving the vulnerable to give tax break to the wealthiest. The Official Secrets Act being used to cover up Westminster Criminal Acts. Westminster secrecy and lies.

    GCC/Unionists gave £200k to T in the Park. Not the Gov or the SNP.

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