Referendum Free Zone 150


I declare this blog an EU referendum free zone. There are several reasons for this:

a) I gave my views in the broadest possible manner a couple of days ago.

b) I live in Edinburgh. I am entirely confident I shall be remaining in the EU, one way or another

c) I refuse to campaign alongside the Tories, even if other Tories are campaigning the other way

d) Incredibly, the appalling Will Straw has been appointed to head the Remain campaign, his sole qualification being that he is the child of the UK’s second most famous war criminal and shyster.

That is my last word on the subject till 24 June.


150 thoughts on “Referendum Free Zone

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  • Sam Addison

    With both campaigns looking utterly repellent so far, that seems like a reasonable stance to take.

  • fedup

    d) Incredibly, the appalling Will Straw has been appointed to head the Remain campaign, his sole qualification being that he is the child of the UK’s second most famous war criminal and shyster.

    The dysfunctional and degenerative process of governance is now handled by the varying degrees of royalness, the lesser royal families whose tenure in the public office is a heredity affair.

    It is good to be king if you can be a one! But sucks to be the rest of us we the people who can see through the crapfest and the kabuki.

  • Chris Rogers

    And prey tell what qualifications does Will straw have to gain this position. Indeed I’m shocked Neil Kinnock’s son was not appointed, although unlike Will he already know has a well paid job. God i despise these folk who have zero idea what an egalitarian and socialist idealism is all about.

    Out, Out. Out, i’m sick of the gravy train, sick of neoliberalism and sick of neoconservative overseas adventures – this is not the Europe Jacques Delors struggled for.

  • Republicofscotland

    “And prey tell what qualifications does Will straw have to gain this position. Indeed I’m shocked Neil Kinnock’s son was not appointed, although unlike Will he already know has a well paid job. God i despise these folk who have zero idea what an egalitarian and socialist idealism is all about.”

    ________________

    Isn’t Stephen Kinnock married to that US compliant ex-Danish PM Helle Thoring-Schmidt.

    I recall her flirting outrageously with Barack Obama at Nelson Mandela’s funeral.

  • Bob smith

    “Remarkably not one of our resident trolls or contrarians is prepared to defend the Straw appointment.”

    Give them time Craig. I’m sure they will.

  • Macky

    Craig; “Remarkably not one of our resident trolls or contrarians is prepared to defend the Straw appointment.”

    LOL ! I think you have scared them off, or broken their hearts, by calling them out for exactly what they are ! 😀

  • nevermind, it might be interesting

    Will Straw? you are having us on… he’s barely dry behind the ears.
    I reckon daddy must have promoted him, so he can then muscle in behind his back, the slimy git, would not be the first time.

    His appointment might be a guarantee for failure of the ‘remain’ campaign?
    I wonder whether there will be a minimum participation rule, under which the vote is annulled? not that has ever stopped them claiming victory and mandates.

    My guess is that very little people will vote in the referendum, and that the EU, always promoting fair voting, will not be pleased about the lack of guile.
    Many haven’t got a clue what their cross will mean, are undecided, or simply can’t fathom what his grand tour de Brussels was all about.

    In June half of the UK is on holiday, good timing, almost as good as Osborne’s timing when flogging of RBS shares and Eurotunnel to his mates.

  • giyane. I may well be a person of interest

    I’m not sure if ignoring the volcano will stop it erupting, but nothing’s cast in stone.
    Except Pompeii.

  • Snitchley

    This has been CIA S.O.P. since the Bay of Pigs: put an idiot in charge of doing things you don’t want done. The US needs to cut the UK off from Europe because US perfidy is fomenting another EU mutiny, like the one over torture, but bigger. CIA doesn’t want to lose their Pom asskissers. Ask your government contacts what their CIA handlers say, you’ll see.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    There is no way the UK is leaving the EU. The result has been pre-decided by the USA. It doesn’t matter how you vote. You think we live in a Democracy??

    The USA, despite being Fascist, is more Democratic than the UK.

    This is interesting – though I am not sure how much of it is true…and Wayne Madsen ex CIA can’t spell.

    “European Political Influence Operations Are «Made in USA»
    by Wayne Madsen”

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article190319.html

    Extract

    “In order to counter neutralist tendencies within the UK Labor Party, the CIA financed an influence operation via the Congress of Cultural Freedom to provide the political leverage for such Labor Party leaders as Hugh Gaitskell, Anthony Crosland, and Denis Healey to move the Labor Party into a more pro-NATO position [3]. Conversely, when Labor Prime Minister Harold Wilson and Labor Party leader Michael Foot took the party down a leftward path, the CIA arranged for the two leaders to be ousted by CIA implants within the party. For Wilson, the traitor du jour for the CIA was James Callaghan, a right-winger, and for Foot, it was Neil Kinnock, a committed globalist and European federalist, who played the role of Brutus. When Wilson was forced from power as prime minister in 1976, the CIA went on «red alert» to prevent longtime Labor leftist leader Tony Benn from succeeding him. The CIA’s efforts paid off when their man Callaghan took over from Wilson.”

    Tony

  • Republicofscotland

    “I live in Edinburgh. I am entirely confident I shall be remaining in the EU, one way or another”

    ___________________

    Craig come June 23rd, if the vote is to leave the EU, we’ll need to campaign hard in your home town, Edinburgh voted no to Scottish independence. The comfortable middle-classes didn’t want to rock the boat.

    I’m still disappointed that the home of the Scottish Enlightenment, wasn’t enlightened enough to vote yes.

    We need the capital to vote yes.

  • Clark

    Why do so many think that leaving the EU will take the UK clear of TTIP? Are not UK MPs even more in thrall to US/corporate interests than our MEPs are? Westminster is beholden to the City of London.

    Write to your MEPs for goodness sake!

  • Tony_0pmoc

    Does that mean we are also going to be lumbered with Blair’s kid…as Future Prime Minister???

    I think I prefer The Monarchy at Least Diana was a Real Princess.

    The rest of them are Lizards.

    Tony

  • craig Post author

    I think Edinburgh forfeited the right to be the capital in 2014.
    On Independence let’s move the capital to Dundee.

  • Becky Cohen

    Tend to agree with Craig. The EU is a genuine attempt to make sure that the disastrous and irrational creed of nationalism that infected Europe in the last century will never happen again. Our continental cousins have experienced first hand on their soil the dangers that creating artificial borders can do and the zeitgeist is best encapsulated by the attitude of my German friend. As far as him and his circle are concerned, we are not Scots, Welsh, Irish, French, English, Germans we are all Europeans and moreover part of a global village.

  • Chris Rogers

    @Becky Cohen,

    A considerate post, and for the record I’m actually more of a communitarian myself placing emphasis and loyalty to my community first, then by extension country, namely Wales and then Europe – I quite like having a plethora of different nationalities within my community, and have always congratulated those who follow Judaism of the communities they have built and maintained, despite efforts to extinguish them.

    Extreme nationalism is our enemy, as are economic policies that are an anathema to equality, justice and fraternity, and yet those that control the levers of power presently within the EU seem opposed to these ideals. i wish it were not so, but the facts are their for all to see starting with Latvia in the Baltic’s, Ireland on the other fringe, and Greece on another fringe, and these neoliberal economic prescriptions are fermenting nationalist fervour.

    As such, I really don’t know what the Commission and Council of Europe are up too, but it’s not the European idealism I subscribe too, quite the reverse in fact.

  • Republicofscotland

    “I think Edinburgh forfeited the right to be the capital in 2014.
    On Independence let’s move the capital to Dundee.”

    ____________

    I could live with that, I find the Holyrood parliament building a big ugly duckling, not one of Enric Miralles better works in my opinion.

    Also I’d like to see the moving around of the cabinet from city to city to give people a chance to see and hear the department ministers.

    The SNP did it for awhile then stopped it, mores the pity.

    Dundee had the highest yes vote almost 58% on a 78.9% turn out.

  • craig Post author

    Tony

    Dundee is south of the centre of Scotland. You seem to want to choose the capital of Scotland on grounds of proximity to England.

  • glenn_uk

    I would rather that Craig continue to argue his case for staying in the EU. Personally, I am very open to persuasion which – an old friend once explained – is an incremental process, requiring patience and finesse. Without any further word on the matter on this blog, I am left without the benefit of such persuasion from somebody for whom I have a great deal of respect.

  • CanSpeccy

    I live in Edinburgh. I am entirely confident I shall be remaining in the EU, one way or another.

    As clear a statement as one could wish as to what Scotch nationalism is about. It is about merging the Scottish nation with multiculti, multiracial Europe, i.e., Scotch self-genocide.

    Interesting examination of some of the details of this process here.

    And take a look quick, before the link and this comment are deleted.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    The latest book, which I have not read yet, but which is next to me has a great title. It was recommended by possibly a Russian as a very exciting true story.

    I don’t think Arthur Koestler was referring to us English…but he may well have been at least partially referring to the French. It was written in English in England in 1941.

    “Scum of The Earth”

  • Clark

    Tony_0pmoc, 6:01 pm; the extract you quoted suggests that UK party-political democracy hasn’t been entirely eliminated, or there’d be no need for “CIA operations” to install placemen.

    Likewise with spin and propaganda in the mass news media and denial-of-service attacks upon sites such as this one. If democracy had become entirely non-functional there would be no need to sway public opinion.

  • Republicofscotland

    “Interesting examination of some of the details of this process here.

    And take a look quick, before the link and this comment are deleted.”

    ___________

    Sure Humza Yousef, has received some racial abuse, it happens in just about every city around the world, no surprise there then.

    The website you linked to also quotes some sort of scandal, reported by the Herald newspaper, a staunch unionist rag with a chip on its shoulder the website then quotes the Daily Record, the London Canary Wharf owned gutter rag is one of the most anti-SNP anti-independence rags in the UK.

    Credibility rating of your link zero.

  • RobG

    I wrote this in December 2011:

    “In Britain earlier today there was a mood of euphoria (no other word for it) amongst many people on both the left and the right of politics. Britain has always stood alone and won. Britain showed Johnny Turk who’s boss. Our Dave said ‘No’. Our Dave stood-up to the greasy frogs and krauts with bulldog spirit (cue the Dam Busters theme music). Actually, our Dave has committed political suicide and left the UK in the position of a 3rd rank power, but I’m sure his chums in the City will give him a nice directorship when he gets thrown out of office. Here’s the front page of today’s Kurier, an Austrian right leaning tabloid…”

    http://www.spiderbomb.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/britain_euro.jpg

    Just a reminder that things never change. What I’m referring to was little more than four years ago.

  • CanSpeccy

    the website then quotes the Daily Record, the London Canary Wharf owned gutter rag is one of the most anti-SNP anti-independence rags in the UK.

    Credibility rating of your link zero.Credibility rating of your link zero.

    If it’s anti-SNP it must be untrue. LOL

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