Even the mainstream media feel compelled to drop hints that Owen Smith is not what he is being promoted as. The Guardian’s words yesterday were unintentionally revealing;
the former shadow work and pensions secretary plans to pitch himself as the soft-left option
Note “to pitch himself”. For PR professional Smith, political stance is nothing to do with personal belief, it is to do with brand positioning. On Channel 4 News last night, an incredulous Michael Crick pointed out that the “soft left” Smith had previously given interviews supporting PFI and privatisation in the health service. He also strongly supported Blair’s city academies.
As chief lobbyist for Pfizer, Smith actively pushed for privatisation of NHS services. This is not something Pfizer did very openly, and you have to search the evidence carefully. Footnotes often tell you what is really happening, as in this press release in which Owen Smith says of a Pfizer funded “focus group” study:
We believe that choice is a good thing and that patients and healthcare professionals should be at the heart of developing the agenda.
You have to look at the footnotes to see what kind of choice Owen Smith is actually talking about. Note to Editors 3 includes
“The focus groups also explored areas of choice that do not yet exist in the UK – most specifically the use of direct payments and the ability to choose to go directly to a specialist without first having to see the GP.”
Well, at least it is clear – direct payments from the public to doctors replacing current NHS services. Smith was promoting straight privatisation. As Head of Policy and Government Relations for Pfizer, Owen Smith was also directly involved in Pfizer’s funding of Blairite right wing entryist group Progress. Pfizer gave Progress £53,000. Progress has actively pursued the agenda of PFI and privatisation of NHS services.
Owen Smith went to Pfizer from a Labour Party job, while Labour were in government, and there is no doubt that his hiring was an example of the corrupt relationship between New Labour and big business which is why the Blairites are so hated by the public. It is also beyond any argument that if Pfizer had any doubts about Owen Smith’s willingness to promote the Big Pharma and NHS Privatisation agenda, they would never have hired him.
Owen Smith is a strong supporter of Trident and assiduously courts the arms industry. He is a regular at defence industry events.
Perhaps most crucially of all, Owen Smith joined his fellow Red Tories in abstaining on the Tory welfare benefit cuts.
I do not doubt Owen Smith’s expertise in brand positioning. I expect that there are indeed a large number of Labour Party members who might vote for a left wing alternative to Corbyn. But I also suspect that Smith has adopted the PR man’s typical contempt for the public, who are not as stupid as he seems to think. There is no evidence whatsoever that Smith is a left winger. There is every evidence that he is another New Labour unprincipled and immoral careerist, adopting a left wing pose that he thinks will win him votes.
People will notice, Owen. They really are not that stupid.
Stalinist-Blairism in action:
Entire Brighton, Hove and District Labour Party suspended by NEC
Astounding.
It’s increasingly looking like a re-run of the Kinnock vs Militant Tendency battles. Naturally, Militant Tendency were heavily infiltrated by spooks, as all left groups are, so this was never quite the left-right schism Kinnock preferred to portray it as.
Corbyn is now being treated, basically, as a Trotskyite entryist. This means the rules simply don’t apply anymore. Not to Jezza anyway. Naturally, they’ll cry like little girls if the rules are breached by anyone else.
Order from the State Department probably. I’d guess the main players are all protected sources. And so does History repeat itself as farce.
Stalinist-Blairism? More likely Lukudist-Blairism.
Very sad was happened in Nice but alarming to see Newt Gingrich calling for tests in belief and deportation. Freedom to carry arms, freedom of speech, freedom to abort but not no freedom of belief? Deporting for feeling and thinking?
What is going on?
See Telegraph live updating report at 4.19am for Newt Gingrich comment.
“Very sad was happened in Nice but alarming to see Newt Gingrich calling for tests in belief and deportation”
So Nice is “sad”, but Newt Gingrich is “alarming”? You’ve got it all arse about face, fwl. No wonder we’re all fucked.
Yeah it is high time that there was set of neo Nuremberg laws!!!
Taking away the citizenships of the Muslims, and banning Muslims from fraternisation, etc.
Owen Smith is the clear media favourite. Just listened to the BBC radio 4 on him – growing support apparently (hint join the band waggon, no need to supply evidence of it). No mention of the “I” word. And no mention of Iraq on their webpage about him launching his challenge here. They must be aware of the controversy.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36799983
I thought he launched his challenge a couple of days ago… but heh… it went a bit bad that time. He kicked it off by lying to the people he wants to vote for him about being against the invasion of Iraq. Not a good start so they’re letting him have a re-run. Expect very little mention of Iraq along with Owen Smith from now on.
Direct payments as you have mentioned here is not a term in the meaning you have given it. It means patients are given the money from government that it would cost for their care for them to go and chose who gives it to them or how it’s given. So for example it’s often used in home care. I think this bit of your blog is misinterpreted.
It’s another case of ‘bait-and-switch’, isn’t it? Exactly the same with the deluded people who voted Leave and found themselves not with Johnson, Gove, Farage or even Leadsom but with the Major-esque Theresa May. These politicians wear the appropriate clothes for a while, then shed them, to reveal they were the same as the people they replaced, This is how the establishment stay in power – by holding out hope of change that never comes.
Owen is no moving today out of respect for the Islamic attack in FRANCE
on Bastille Day.
Nice attack: At least 84 killed during Bastille Day celebrations
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36800730
i wonder what our Islamaphobic Theressa may
will make of it.
The large white truck plunged into the crowd at around 11:00pm (2100 GMT) Thursday night as hundreds of people were on Nice’s beachfront Promenade des Anglais to watch the fireworks for France’s national day.
A spokesperson for the Interior Ministry confirmed that at least 84 people had been killed after the truck ploughed two kilometres (1.3 miles) through the crowd, who had just finished watching the firework show.
As rumours swirled online, the Ministry dismissed reports that people had been taken hostage.
According to witness testimonies confirmed by a police source, the driver pulled out a gun and fired at the crowd before being shot dead.
He is yet to be named, but the identity papers of a 31-year-old French-Tunisian were found in the truck, according to a police source. The papers indicate the man is a Nice resident who is known to police for common law crimes, but not to intelligence services.
Multiple bullet holes were visible in the truck’s windscreen as police moved in after the carnage.
http://www.france24.com/en/20160715-deadly-truck-attack-nice-what-we-know-so-far
President Hollande has said
“The Horror has come down on France again”
Sounds like Islamic Terror to me.
let’s wait and see, if it claimed as a Lone Wolf Attack.
However on the wireless, just now it was claimed he had grenades in the truck.
Owen is no moving today out of respect for the Islamic attack in FRANCE on Bastille Day.
Excuse my cynicism but it’s more likely Owen has delayed his launch because he won’t get enough news-time today.
It’s me. Typo in addy. Sorry.
Over on the al-Hilli thread, we were keeping an eye on this suspicious death.
http://www.france24.com/en/20160714-russian-court-hearing-suspects-accused-death-total-ceo-Margerie
A Russian court will open a preliminary hearing Friday into the death of Total’s former CEO, Christophe de Margerie, who died when his jet crashed into a snow plough at a Moscow airport in 2014. Five airport employees are defendants in the case.
Christophe de Margerie, chief executive of France’s largest listed company, was killed along with three air crew – all of them French citizens – when his jet hit the snow plough as it was taking off from Moscow’s Vnukovo airport in the middle of the night.
At a court session on Thursday, lawyers for the five airport employees said the investigation had missed crucial evidence. Prosecutors said they needed more time to respond to the defence claims, and the judge gave them until Friday.
The trial has been postponed several times and Russia’s IAC civil aviation investigative body has yet to release its final report about the crash, which critics say exposed the country’s patchy air safety record.
An inquiry into the crash said in the days after that “criminal negligence” was to blame.
“It was not a terrible tragic series of circumstances … but criminal negligence by officials” who failed to ensure that airport staff coordinated their duties, said the Investigative Committee, which reports directly to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Alexander Karabanov, the lawyer for snow plough driver Vladimir Martynenko, said lawyers for the defence had put forward a motion for further investigation in the case.
“At the moment, motions were put forward in court on additional investigation because there were major breaches of laws,” Karabanov told reporters outside Moscow’s Solntsevo District Court on Thursday.
“The prosecutor asked for more time so that he can prepare and give a substantive response,” he said.
The lawyers believe that the investigation had not taken into consideration the actions of the flight crew, including how the pilots should have acted, said Leonid Kurakin, the lawyer for Vnukovo airport’s head of flights, Roman Dunayev.
‘Mr Moustache’
In the days after De Margerie’s death, Russian President Vladimir Putin sent a telegram to Hollande (also published by the Kremlin) in which he said he was “shocked by the news” and asking Hollande to “pass on the most sincere condolences and words of sympathy” to De Margerie’s family and loved ones.
Putin also praised the Total CEO as a “true friend of our country”.
De Margerie, who was 63 and known affectionately as “Mr Moustache” for his bushy facial hair, rose through the ranks at Total to become CEO in 2007, and added the post of chairman in 2010.
De Margerie joined Total after graduating from the Ecole Supérieure de Commerce in 1974, according to the company’s website. He served in several positions in the Finance Department and Exploration & Production division before becoming president of Total Middle East in 1995.
He became a member of Total’s policy-making executive committee in 1999.
Married with three children, he was the son of diplomats and business leaders and the grandson of Pierre Taittinger, founder of Taittinger champagne and the luxury goods dynasty.
He was known for his good humour, but De Margerie had also steered Total through tough times – including defending the company against allegations of corruption during the UN “oil-for-food” programme in Iraq.
Highly regarded within the oil industry, De Margerie admitted the allegations had taken their toll on the company.
“Most people, when they speak of Total, do not know what it is, but know it is not good,” he said in 2009.
Paris-based Total is the fifth-largest publicly traded integrated international oil and gas company in the world, with exploration and production operations in more than 50 countries, according to a profile on the company’s website.
Total said in September 2014 that work on constructing a new natural gas liquefaction plant in Yamal in northwestern Siberia was continuing despite EU and US sanctions on Russia over its role in the conflict in Ukraine. Total is developing the plant with Novatek of Russia and Chinese oil group CNPC.
Total announced in May of that year that it had signed a deal with Russia’s second-biggest oil firm Lukoil to explore and develop shale oil deposits in western Siberia. But De Margerie later told the Financial Times that the project had been halted due to the Western sanctions.
Ref the Nice attacks, this is not the time for half measures. Decisive action and a tough response are required to show these terrorists we mean business:
•Light up buildings in Paris with the colours of the tricolour immediately.
•Change your avatar to a French flag and add #JeSuisNice to the end of your tweets.
•Light a virtual candle.
•Be at pains to stress that once again this has nothing to do with Islam, which is a religion of peace.
•Forget about it within 2 days. Repeat next time.
Anon 1 I realize you are speaking ironically,
The French have again extended their State of Emergency, for a further three months.
They have been saying this is the third major attack in France over 18 months, but i suggest, it is at least the fourth.
They are leaving out Coulibaly
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amedy_Coulibaly
The French need to forget about Syria/Iraq and concentrate sorting out the TERROR in FRANCE
President Hollande said “all of France is under the threat of Islamic terrorism”
a bit of a sad cock-up by the security defenders of a nation already in special emergency status especially as DGSE briefings indicated they were following some hints, at least according to radio france international : http://en.rfi.fr/france/20160713-french-press-review-13-july-2016
It seems that the DGSE accidentally over-revealed in their parliamentary planned use of new attacks/car-bombs over the summer and also that they were following a live thread of attacks likely in Rio. this was reported in several places including by RT
Personally I predicted attacks along the med around a decade ago, and a Royal Navy briefing around then also indicated that they were looking at the potential threat from cigarette boats. However, taking this tragic attack at face value, people are not yet questioning how to deal with the trillion euro funding of which ideology built/upgraded all the places of worship and led the idiots down this path. . .
Looking further for context, perhaps not taking this tragic attack at face value:
Iranian news has been wittering all week, complaining about what they consider as terrorists, meeting in Paris, with senior mad-bad-jihadis, but surely this has no relevance?
http://en.alalam.ir/news/1837451
11th July 2016 17:55
My stupid questions follow:
Did Turki visit the hills outside Nice? Does he just support, overtly/covertly anti-iranian terrrsts? Is this Gladio 3 instead – are some of the questions that the hysterical mass media are unlikely to ask. Our teenaged colleagues at the monitoring (pokémon Go) services – gotta catch all data surely know by now, who , why, what and with which affiliation these events came about – can they/do they wish to help the citizens, or are they really just playing virtually-enhanced games , gchq/nsa/8200??
Owen Smythe has respectfully paused his campaign launch today, or is it because he’d be ignored anyway
Turkey bin faisal evidently has thumped the table and shouted at the MKO gathering, you want rid of those in power in Iran, I want the same, so why don’t you get on with it? The said sponsor of terrorism in France could have attended other business too.
The right wing Owen Smith needs to be outed .
Could you be more precise about what you mean?
Show-trial and purged.
Thank you for this information on Owen Smith these are the things that the voting labour party should be aware of before giving him their vote in the leadership party. We should all know that Angela Eagle cast her vote for the Iraq war, trident, and student fees. Do we need either of these two people leading a socialist party – I would say no and if either of these plotters succeed I will not – after 40 years of voting labour – be supporting the labour party any longer.
The Islamaphobic T. May goes to Scotland to talk with Nicola
The SNP MP Stephen Gethins, who is the party’s spokesman on Europe, said he would like to see an acknowledgement from Westminster that Scotland voted differently from the UK referendum result.
He said: “We can find innovative political solutions to this if only the Westminster government are willing to listen.”
He added: “You can find a solution whereby Scotland remains in the European Union within the United Kingdom, there are ways you can do that.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36800536
So, they don’t like Trump, even though his grandfather was a native Scottish Gaelic speaking Hebridean fisherman, even though he has pumped millions of dollars into Scotland and is prepared to pump in even more, even though he has a reasonable chance of becoming president of the U.S.A.
They no longer like the Labour party – new or old.
They do not like the English, even though it was the idea of Scotland to join in Union with England, some three hundred years ago.
They are not sure if they want to keep the pound but they do not want the Euro.
they are not sure if they want to keep the queen.
They do want to be in the European Empire but at the same time want to be an independent country.
How many people are currently native Scottish Gaelic speakers?
How the fuck can you be an independent country if you do not use your own language, your own currency or make your own laws?
DELUSIONISTS
Norton wrote:
“He is yet to be named, but the identity papers of a 31-year-old French-Tunisian were found in the truck, according to a police source. The papers indicate the man is a Nice resident who is known to police for common law crimes, but not to intelligence services.”
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The Belgian terrorists also had a police record.
This demonstrates that it is essential that police data bases talk to the data bases of the security services.
And that in turn means that any increase of the staffing and funding of the security services can only be welcomed.
Hbbabkuk says: less for the NHS, more for MI5, MI6 and GCHQ.
but these inter-linked intelligence databases are seemingly not used for their stated purpose
consider the Californian hosted website Al Mas Dar News seemingly setup by a Prasad Papudesi or someone else entirely?
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israeli-intelligence-chief-not-want-isis-defeat-syria/
so I have nothing against small nations who are in perpetual war, as they see it, but I can’t see how “not defeating ISIS” is compatible with what we are being told is the need for the BoJo led gchq/mi6 “playing” and building up their databases which are then immediately shared with Herzi Halevy, and his mates, etc unless I’ve got it all arse-about-tit?
I commented a while back that ‘vehicular jihad’ was becoming the in-thing for Islamic terrorists after a spate of such attacks in Israel. I see that the precise instructions were given as part of a manual for jihadists, reportedly downloaded by 55,000 Muslims in the UK.
“The idea is to use a pickup truck as a mowing machine, not to mow grass but mow down the enemies of Allah. You would need a 4WD pickup truck. The stronger the better. You would then need to weld on steel blades on the front end of the truck. These could be a set of butcher blades or thick sheets of steel. They do not need to be extra sharp because with the speed of the truck at the time of impact, even a blunter edge would slice through bone very easily. You may raise the level of the blades as high as the headlights. That would make the blades strike your targets at the torso level or higher. Pick your location and timing carefully. Go for the most crowed locations. Narrower spots are also better because it gives less chance for the people to run away. Avoid locations where other vehicles may intercept you. To achieve maximum carnage, you need to pick up as much speed as you can while still retaining good control of your vehicle in order to maximize your inertia and be able to strike as many people as possible in your first run. Keep in mind that as soon as people realize what you are up to, they would scatter and run in every direction looking for cover. They would look for areas where the vehicle cannot reach them. Therefore, it is important to study your path of operation beforehand. The ideal location is a place where there are a maximum number of pedestrians and the least number of vehicles. In fact if you can get through to “pedestrian only” locations that exist in some downtown (city center) areas, that would be fabulous. There are some places that are closed down for vehicles at certain times due to the swarms of people. If you have access to firearms, carry them with you so that you may use them to finish off your work if your vehicle gets grounded during the attack. After such an attack, we believe it would be very difficult to get away safely and without being recognized. Hence, it should be considered a martyrdom operation. It’s a one-way road. You keep on fighting until you achieve martyrdom. You start out your day in this world, and by the end of it, you are with Allah.”
Anon
Thanks for that.
I wonder if you would agree with me when I suggest that much more use should be made by Western govts of Israeli expertise in preventing terrorist attacks?
It seems to me eminently sensible to spend money on studying and learning from best practice.
The terrorist usually ends up martyring himself during the atrocity, but if you confiscate his property and that of his relatives, bulldoze his home and deport the family to hellhole of origin, it might help to focus the mind of the would-be jihadist.
something posted this above ” if you confiscate his property and that of his relatives, bulldoze his home and deport the family to hellhole of origin, it might help to focus the mind of the would-be jihadist.”
EU diplomats on the ground wrote this (according to the press)
seems to focus these jihadis rather more in the direction of idiocy than of peace. . .but you’re a sovereign nation so you can do what you want
Normal people can behave like idiots, not these.
These are Evil cretins to whom God/Nature gave a brain entirely by mistake, ditto for a spine.
Who will step up and update the Medieval Religion of Peace?
In the end, ALL Organised Religions must go! Every public space of worship has to be shut down globally and/or turned into art spaces. You want to pray, do it at home. Its as sacred as fuck, or so it should be
“It seems to me eminently sensible to spend money on studying and learning from best practice.”
Isn’t the security industry already the largest growth industry in the world since 9/11? How’s that working out?
From:
“Has grown five times faster than the rest of the UK economy since 2010 and has doubled in size since 2008
Has an annual turnover of £7.9bn, 40% of which is generated through exports
Directly employs 75,000 people, of which 2,150 are apprentices or trainees
Supports 39,000 jobs indirectly through the supply chain
Pays around 40% more than the UK average salary, highlighting the highly skilled nature of its workers.
The outlook for the sector is also positive:
Two-thirds of industry leaders expect to achieve more than 10% growth over the next 12 months.
70% of UK security companies plan on increasing investment over the next 12 months.”
Quote from: https://www.adsgroup.org.uk/uks-security-industry/
Habby, we must learn from whoever knows best. If that’s Israel, so be it.
I don’t believe that necessary means we should throw money at them. Don’t they already get enough money? Can’t we simply ask as quid pro quo for the required support within what is possibly already being gifted? The land was already gifted to them way back, and they shouldn’t forget that.
Cooperation is required; essential. However, the sooner an Israel-Palestine agreement is reached, the earlier one can possibly, hopefully, though not necessarily take a chunk of the winds out of the sails of the Islamic terrorists. But that is a massive ask, in the face of the Wahhabi Frankenstein that Saudia Arabia & Associates have created and the gutless, ballless, American regime seem to be unable to deal with.
Which leads me to Hillary/Trump–which appears as a choice of The Devil and The Deep Blue Sea. The Evil Hillary can only maintain the status quo. (The Bitch retired early as Secy of State stating she was too tired, I now mistrust the hyper-ambitious mix of dye, botox and plastic she is.) One can only ‘hope’, whatever that word means, that Trump, of whom expectations may be limited, can seriously over-deliver and fuck Islamic terror at its very roots: Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan….please feel free to add to the list.
Is **reaeli expertise in preventing terrorist attacks the correct point of view tho’?
according to https://euobserver.com/foreign/134370 (today)
prevent or cause?
Cause of course! And then offer the solution; kill them all, deport them all, ban them, throw them in concentration camps !!!!!
Reading the above unconscious drivel form the usual suspects, it is clearly evident that these operatives wilfully, and deliberately neglect to face up to the legitimate grievances of the Palestinians or any other group of oppressed disenfranchised minorities in the west. As evident in their “contributions”, these going so far as publishing the revised neo protocols of Muslims, with all the details of the “butchers’ knives” just to up the octane and the emotions in these “delicate” times. Can this be incitement to hatred?
What has shrieking the chant got to do with anything?
Why is this of any importance to you to mention it?
What would you wish to substitute your obsessively referred to chant/”war cry” with?
“I wonder if you would agree with me when I suggest that much more use should be made by Western govts of Israeli expertise in preventing terrorist attacks?”
But Israel doesn’t prevent terrorist attacks, they are ongoing and never ending.
Don’t you think Israel should make use of British expertise? The Northern Ireland terrorist problems have been resolved.
Whatever – Operation Kratos was a succinct illustration of israel’s Yamam training to shoot out the brain stem with hollow point bullets without identifying the so called ‘terrorist’ suspect. BS Hooey!
Anyone know what
Mhairi Black
has been doin’ and sayin’ lately ?
Find out for yourself. Try TheyWorkForYou.
There’s a piece in Salvage Zone by John Merrick about the position of the Labour Party in the UK and in the wider socialist and social democratic traditions in Europe. As Craig points out “Smith had previously given interviews supporting PFI and privatisation in the health service”. Merrick in his piece, commenting on the neoliberalism that some Labour MPs supports writes:-
“Fundamental here, however, is what has occurred since the neoliberal revolution of the 1970s and ’80s. ……. This, for Piketty, is typified by the heiress of L’Oréal, Liliane Bettencourt, whose fortune increased from $2 billion to $25 billion between 1990 and 2010, despite her own admission of having ‘never worked a day in her life’.”
Merrick is pessimistic about the possibilities of Corbynmania leading to any chance of getting power. He writes:-
“ ….even the idea of a moderate social democratic platform not only gaining power but even having the remotest possibility of implementation, is nigh on impossible.”
One of his conclusions is not that those who support Corbyn’s social democratic programme should look for ‘betrayal’ of these values but that:-
“ …. the difficult task is not to search for individual weakness but for the structural reasons for the historic failures of the left. We must learn to find in defeat not personal failings, but the limits of movements and circumstances.”
In his conclusions Merrick writes “Part of this must be to recognise the British state as the bulwark against change that it is”.
A propos of which, listened to ‘The Briefing Room’ on BBC radio 4 last night (16/7 at 20.00) presented by David Aaronovitch. He starts with three vox pops from Wakefield speaking to people who voted leave. One of those interviewed when asked if he wanted to bring back capital punishment said yes.
The programme then went on to explain (from the London studio presumably) using academic studies that leavers were acting against their own best interests and if only someone who knew what was what had explained to these people what their best interests were then they would have voted remain. Which seems to me to be part of the attempt to lay the ground for ignoring the leave vote.
http://salvage.zone/in-print/corbyn-labour-and-the-present-crisis/
Thank you for your research. I may not always agree with you but I am undoubtedly better informed because of your work and effort.
I think the Labour plan to charge £25 to vote has a double purpose. The first of course is to price out the poor and new members so they can’t vote for Jeremy Corbyn, but I think its second purpose is its main purpose. It allows any right winger or reactionary with a spare £25 to sign up and vote against the ascendant left wing and remove it. It enables everybody from Kuensberg and Branson to vote him out.
If enough people sign up and vote it will change the outcome, and it will be the best £25 political donation any right winger could make, to wipe the left out. And it puts a bit of money in Labour’s coffers. If that happens then Jeremy has to take his support and union base and form a new party, and send what’s left of Labour into oblivion. If he accepts it then it’s the end of the left for decades if not for centuries.
“It allows any right winger or reactionary with a spare £25 to sign up and vote against the ascendant left wing and remove it.”
No. It allows them to vote for it. 🙂
You’ve got it precisely the wrong way round, if you erect money as the barrier, the only people who can’t cross it are the poor.
Owen Smith has postponed the formal launch of his Labour leadership bid after the attacks in Nice, which have left more than 80 people dead.
The former shadow work and pensions secretary was due to make a speech in Pontypridd setting out why he wanted to challenge Jeremy Corbyn.
But he said he would not go ahead as planned following the “heartbreaking” news from Nice overnight.
He tweeted in French: “Solidarity and fraternity with the French people.”
Labour MP and former minister Angela Eagle launched a separate challenge to Mr Corbyn’s leadership earlier this week
In his planned speech, Mr Smith – who has been Pontypridd MP since 2010 – had been due to say he was the only one of a “new generation of Labour MPs” who can “secure Labour’s future”.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36799983
Agree he is entirely fake
‘Why do you automatically seek to deny that a terrorist attack is a terrorist attack?’
It’s called denial. You invest time money and effort moving to another country and then realise it was a big mistake, but if you expended all your money you’re forced to either go into denial, or go completely mad.
BREAKING: Labour are trawling your social media to stop you voting in the leadership election:
http://www.thecanary.co/2016/07/14/breaking-labour-trawling-social-media-stop-voting-leadership-election/
“The Labour Procedures Committee have reportedly announced that anyone who uses the words “traitor”, “scab” or “scum” in relation to another member of the party, will automatically be barred from having a vote in the leadership election:”
I’m sure nobody on this blog has ever used those words.
Still, focussing on Islamism for a minute:
” Most important, defeating the ideology that sparks terror is vital. America’s closest ally in West Asia, apart from Israel, is Saudi Arabia, which is the fountainhead of Salafist extremism and jihadi ideas. This ideology is spreading everywhere due to the funding of mosques and religious activities by the Saudi state. Pakistan is another purveyor or Islamism and jihadi culture, thanks to its visceral hatred for India. The world has to find ways to deal with the spread of Salafist ideology, which is a threat to the world.”
http://www.firstpost.com/world/nice-attack-couldnt-be-prevented-why-wests-anti-terror-strategy-is-failing-2894902.html
I came across the above article from googling Saudi Arabia + Nice. Has Saudi Arabia made any comment on this latest? Do they ever? Does that jerk of a so-called ‘king’, Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud ever have anything useful to say? Google his name + France and take a look.
I can’t wait for Trump to get in and sanction the ‘House of Saud’. Fuck them, we’ll see what happens. The worst of the Type Zero Global Civilisation: these Bastards are Minus One on the civility scale. 21C Barbarians that’s what they are, hardly human.
21C Barbarians that’s what they are, hardly human.
Familiar concept. See where you’re going with that. (But you’ll be disappointed in Trump. I think. I*r*el doesn’t want any problems with the Sauds. And Boris is definitely pro-Saudi.)
“”We shall take care that never again in Germany, the heart of Europe, will the redactedish-Bolshevistic revolution of subhumans be able to be kindled either from within or through emissaries from without.”
Heinrich Himmler: The SS as an Anti-Bolshevist Fighting Organization, 1936
“See where you’re going with that.”
Thanks, Baal. I can’t really ‘see’ as I’m no historian, and my brain often will not engage with historical parallels.
I still say these people are heartless humans. Even animals have more heart.
Ok, fair enough. But is your average IS fighter making a snuff video to demoralise Westerners, actually any more heartless than Pilot Officer Prune steering a drone towards something he thinks is probably a terrorist, but there’s a few other guys there who are going to get wasted, unfortunately…from an airconditioned bunker in Yorkshire or Texas? Or, indeed the CNN team filming the big spectacular bangs over Baghdad in the certain knowledge that people are getting killed and hideously maimed underneath the clouds of smoke? Or yet, my favourite redacted ‘defence’ force checking out its armoury in Gaza for the fourth time?
IOW, how much worse is having your head removed by a bit of shrapnel which wasn’t specifically aimed at you – but was intended to have that effect – than by an individual you can actually see? The end result is exactly the same.
And if you think civilised Westerners would never be that individual, you don’t need to go that far back in history to see how wrong you can be.
I agree with you Baal.
And with your inspiration , I shall consider changing my name handle to Ministry of Offence.
‘Defence’ is the greatest and most pervasive and offensive euphemism in use around our Type Zero Globe in these times.
a french man with tunisian origins spend his life in nice kills some people in a bastille day of infamy
porky holland send navy ships to syria and libya.
riot and death french citizens killing french citizens and the head porker sends his ships abroad.
can anybody tell me a terror incident in the last 15 years where folks got sacked in police and intel services.
every time we get gladio terror check out what happens to the heads of these security agency.
promotion and pay rise for failure
or maybe stand down job well done.
one can tell the nature of these event by the promotion not dismissal of these officials.
one could call it the peter power ripple effect
http://home.bt.com/news/showbiz-news/mick-jagger-to-be-a-father-again-at-72-11364073674164
” Mick Jagger to be a father again at 72 ”
Is he competing with Murdoch?
Why did Corbyn and allies leave the NEC meeting to go to a rally before such crucial rule changes were made? Bad judgment? overconfidence? The extent to which his opponents are willing to go should not be underestimated. “It’s worth noting that, contra much of the reporting of the vote, the questions over the freeze date and the £3 scheme were advertised in advance – indeed, my colleague George reported on Monday that they would both be decided at the crunch meeting, and loyalists have long been relaxed about their ability to win regardless of the rules as long as Corbyn was on the ballot. Although Corbyn had left in triumph, the pro-Corbyn majority on the NEC remained intact. What decided the vote was that the trade unions, who voted with Corbyn’s allies on the question of whether to keep him on the ballot, switched to vote with the Corbynsceptics, as, I’m told, did Ann Black, a longstanding member of the left slate on the NEC”.http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/07/why-did-labours-nec-agree-these-rule-changes
The Mirror said that Corbyn himself was obliged by the rules to leave the meeting.
Jeremy Corbyn was “not allowed to be in the room” when the NEC was debating and voting on changes to the rules which block Labour members who joined less than six months ago to vote in the leadership contest.
He was also not present when the increase in the supporters fee to £25 was agreed.
He was aware the rules of the vote were going to be debated and voted upon, but a spokesperson confirmed he was not allowed to be present after it was confirmed he would be on the ballot.
scroll down to 23.20 at this link :
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/live-jeremy-corbyn-will-automatically-8406188
Node.. Thank you.
Past French positions on terrorism, as UK ones, are hypocritical, first we had Cameron’s “moderate” terrorists, and then former French Foreign affairs Minister Laurent Fabius praising Al Nusra. “Relations of victims of jihadist groups in Syria took the French government to court on Monday, accusing Foreign Affairs Minister Laurent Fabius of encouraging violence in their country by praising the al-Qaida affiliate, the al-Nusra Front.
The case went to a Paris appeal court on Monday, a lower court having declared itself incompetent to hear it because it concerned France’s foreign policy.
The plaintiffs, all Syrians, claim that several statements by Fabius stoked the Syrian conflict in 2012.
Among them was a declaration, made during a visit to a refugee camp in August, that “Bashar al-Assad doesn’t deserve to be on this earth.”
They also cite a quotation in Le Monde newspaper when Fabius reported that the Syrian opposition coalition and “all the Arabs” opposed the US decision to put al-Nusra on its terrorist list because “they are doing a good job on the ground”.http://en.rfi.fr/france/20150907-syrians-take-french-fm-fabius-court-encouraging-al-nusra
This affair in Nice, absolutely stinks.
The corporate-media says it was ISIS, ISIS is entirely a creation of western intelligence services and media. The ‘terror’ against France is allegedly because France are not doing enough to topple the legitimate beseiged Syrian government, by bombing/regime change/assassination of President Assad. In order for the same ISIS to take over Syria/form a caliphate/travel on a magic carpets.
Let me be the first to state this attack in France can be laid at the door of the US, UK, French and Israelis. No question.
Could this be Boris’ first act as FS?
Cui Bono?
Not buying this self-inflicted Gladio 2 shit, any more. I’m calling it as I and many many more people see it.
I read that agents acting on behalf of the Zionist entity/Rothschilds took control of the truck by way of a secret device, locked the doors so the driver couldn’t escape and then used mind control waves beamed down via chemtrails to make him drive into the crowds whilst shouting “Allahu Akbar!”.
Is it true?
If the West really was ultimately responsible for this atrocity, it certainly is possible to imagine how it happened without inventing ridiculous scenarios. If ISIS really is a creation of the West, Western authorities could have issued instructions to the leaders of ISIS, who in turn issued orders to one of their foot soldirers, who obeyed the orders without any idea that he was ultimately doing the West’s dirty work for it.
I’m not saying that’s what happened. I have no idea. But the scenario is far from a ridiculous one.
Is it that hard to imagine that this was simply a religious nutcase, bent on the destruction of as many white Euro-devils as possible, having been thoroughly brainwashed (not helped by actual devastation caused by Western war-mongering)?
I read that agents acting on behalf of the Z***ist entity/R*thschilds took control of the truck by way of a secret device, locked the doors so the driver couldn’t escape and then used mind control waves beamed down via chemtrails to make him drive into the crowds whilst shouting “Allahu Akbar!”.
Is it true?
And while we’re distracted Israel are interfering in Syria breaching its air space, supplying and supporting ‘ISIS’ and continuing their genocide of firstly the Palestinian people and now in Iraq and Syria, and beyond, the whole Muslim and Arab. Israel is engaged in the most murderous fanatical religious genocide of an entire people humanity has ever seen. Face up to the truth people, stop denying it, these terror attacks are self-inflicted.
No of course it isn’t. Everybody at the event was a crisis actor in the pay of the Freemasons and the truck was added in afterwards using CGI. Nobody died.
That is very silly and not at all funny.
Some people will believe it though.
Nor is it funny to go telling the parents at the Newtown massacre that their murdered children never existed, and that they’re all liars. Or shout “False Flag!” every time some nutcase goes berserk and kills a bunch of innocents. But they do it around here regularly.
Spot on.
The more spent on anti-terror budgets, civil repression and spying on everyone. The more terrorism there is. We have both correlation and causation, state security services to a man and woman are like rogue fire-fighters lighting fires, for extra pay and kicks.
The first “theory” is in:
“Could this be Boris’ first act as FS?” (Tony M)
Of course, and he must have ordered it because the French booed at his singing.
This theory comes from the same wack-jobs who have been telling us up till now how incompetent Boris is.