Unlike the famous chemical weapons “attack” portrayed by the BBC in Saving Syria’s Children, it does appear that in the latest incident at Idlib there was real horror inflicted by chemical attack of some kind. The question is who did it and why?
I am no fan of the Assad regime, and I have no problem using the word “regime” to describe it. Dictators do hold and win elections. I have lived in severe dictatorships and seen from the inside how they do it. The human rights abuses of the Assad regime have been well documented for decades.
But Bashar al Assad is neither stupid nor unsophisticated. Aided by Putin, he outwitted Obama by quickly giving up his chemical weapons to be destroyed and accepting transparency in verification. There is no justification for the destruction of Iraq, but if Saddam Hussein had been able to swallow pride as completely as Assad, he too could have had a very good chance of averting disaster.
Assad had seen his position go from strength to strength, thanks to Putin’s astute deployment of Russia’s limited military power. Militarily the balance had swung dramatically in Assad’s favour, while Trump had said the unsayable and acknowledged that putting Syria into the hands of Wahabbist crazies was not in the United States interest.
So I cannot conceive that Assad would risk throwing all of this away for the sake of a militarily insignificant small chemical weapons attack. It would be an act of the most extreme folly. It is not impossible – hubris is a great temptation to dictators – but given how Assad has played it so far, it seems out of character and extremely improbable. What is less improbable is a local battlefield decision by pro-Assad forces. In my close observation of dictatorial regimes, a fascinating feature is that they operate an image of the perfection of the state. They are highly adverse to admitting mistakes.
What did happen I do not profess to know. There are at least eleven major identifiable state and non-state forces involved in the fighting around Idlib. In going through them all and considering opportunity and motive for each, I continually find that those whose motive would be false flag stand to benefit a great deal more than those who might have been seeking military advantage.
I am therefore for now unconvinced that this was a deliberate use of chemical weapons by Assad forces. I do not rule it out, but it would take much more concrete evidence than currently offered to prove they did something so strongly and obviously against their own interest. But western governments and media have determined to make that the narrative, so the truth is, as so often in modern geo-politics, entirely incidental to the course of future events.
Self-explanatory:
Farage: ‘A Lot of Trump Voters Will Be Scratching Their Heads’ over Syria Airstrikes
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/04/07/farage-trump-voters-confused-syria/
These temptations will continue. Labour remains divided, their glass is cracked. UKIP might yet have a reason to regroup in the issue of the West’s clash with Islam and Arabia, (never mind the War on Terror) the Fight of the Century.
“The MEP told presenter Nick Ferrari: “I’m a Trump supporter and friend, and one of the things that I think helped him gain votes was the idea that we shouldn’t endlessly get involved militarily in the Middle East without fully thinking through the implications of what we’re doing.
A tiny example:
“British DJ Sentenced to Jail in Tunisia for Remixing Muslim Call to Prayer”
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/04/07/british-dj-sentenced-jail-tunisia-remixing-muslim-call-prayer/
“The artist managed to flee the country before being apprehended, and he was tried in his absence.”
Lucky escape, could’ve fucked up this guy’s life for good. O what a lovely religion of Peace! I tell you: I have examined the subject of organised religions close-up and *reject them all emphatically*. They will all lead you up the garden path eventually. But the last one of The Book? You can keep that aggressive jihad (whatever your interpretation, conflicted), dogmatic stuff. Or grow a few inches taller than all this medieval rubbish.
(I hope this addresses the August Troll’s earlier allegations.)
Listen to my friend, now passed on, Richie Havens singing ‘Freedom’ at the very opening of Woodstock. (Unfortunately, one was too young to attend, but where is this quality of individual expression today?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rynxqdNMry4
We have gone beyond alleged ‘chemical attack’ to:-
1. Being in the Security Council before the attack.
2. Having an offer from the Russian/Syrian side to make a full investigation of the allegations for attribution of blame.
3. Trump setting out to bomb before the conclusion of the Security Council deliberations.
My, my – aren’t we peace loving and peace-loving.
As the Russians say, the U.S. attack was probably all prepared before the gas I incident. The gas incident only provided the pretext for the U.S. attack. Which raises all kinds of questions about the gas incident.
Really strange that Swedish police have apparently no idea who ran down those shoppers in Stockholm.
Seems Anders Breivik related either by neo-Nazi residents who want more anti-jihadist attacks or survivors of their victims, like those who suffered from the murder of Saad ah-hilli’s mother-in-law.
I don’t usually look at You Tube video’s claiming outrages, be they military or terrorist, however, jumping around links I finally looked at the Syrian National Coalition’s post on YT claiming to show evidence of a major chemical attack – the video footage was taken on a mobile smartphone with the supposed Doctor (Hand Chopper) making all the claims actually not a registered doctor, given his UK License to Practice has been revoked. All I can say as someone who has watched quite a few god damn awful cheaply made Horror movies is this fantasy video would gain a 1 on IMDB. Prey tell how can Western nations go to war on such fake and flimsy evidence – I mean, this guy is howling chemical attack, he’s claiming it’s a nerve agent. Alas, it must be a strange nerve agent, one that leaves many of its victims walking wounded, one that fails to harm those rendering assistance – no doubt like lice they may have immunity – but in no way do i sense an actual ‘sense of urgency’. Indeed, and given the chaos in the Hand Chopper held territories it is indeed strange to find such a well equipped medical facility, so close to all the action, with the well known artist known as the ‘DOCTOR’ on hand to document it all. Its bollocks, its fake, its contrived and yet our elected politicians are using it as the basis to overawe Assad and engage in World War Three – What gives guys?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58tyRuVw0RA
It’s even less plausible than the alleged Polish attack on the Gleiwitz radio station. They’ve descended below Goebbels’s level of propaganda.
” one that fails to harm those rendering assistance ”
Yes Chris..With bare hands too
Re WWIII If Russia had used it’s S-300 and S-400 systems ????
Russia is claiming only 23 missiles hit their targets and implying something shot down most of the tomahawks. Nobody seems to be saying if either Russian or Syrian air defence systems engaged.
After all the hype over the S 400 which we were led to believe could detect and destroy a low flying insect in Tel-Avive how did ANY of the ancient, subsonic Tomahawks get through at all?
Perhaps because they were not used? The Syrians do not have S-400 under their control and I’d imagine that we’d have known more about it if the Russians had fired off their own systems so perhaps it was the Syrian S-300 systems that took down the cruise missiles as the S-300 was designed to do. Or perhaps the Russians are exaggerating the numbers that did’t get through. A comment from one of the retired generals last night was that he believed that one intention had been to overwhelm any Syrian defences with too many simultaneous incoming targets.
Have to say I’m a bit surprised that runways and taxiways seem to have been left intact.
Brian,
I’m dumb struck by this nonsense, actually its difficult to comprehend – honestly, anyone questioning this shit on the BTL on The Guardian articles about this shit has their heads ripped off by other posters – don’t these idiots question the false narrative they are being sold, and sold without a scrap of verified evidence.
I miss Wales greatly, but can only say thank god I’m stuck in China, thank god I have no TV ariel or satellite access to any news pumped out via the MSM news outlets, but still am at a loss how my UK peers can buy in to such crass lies and howl for war. its almost as if they have a death wish for themselves and for the global population.
GCHQ use at ease servicemen to troll on the guardian and elsewhere they literally have hundreds of accounts – the only place you’ll find genuine commenters is on Steve bell and Martin Rowson cartoons.
https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
Btw when you search Glenn Greenwald and intercept gchq on google it returns no pages of the intercept or mr greenwald, it’s like they’ve expunged him from history. Same search on duck duck go – first hit.
Google is merely the shipping channel now.
Hi Chris,
I know what you mean! 🙂
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This airbase is vital in the SAA’s defense of the Palmyra and Deir ez zor** regions of Syria.
Expect major offences to be launched in the coming days in these regions by the ‘moderates’ (no doubt under-reported by the MSM).
Will IS miraculously open a corridor out of Mosul to Deir ez zor? (Bagdadi was able to flee Mosul not a week or two ago according to the US (Bizarre how they let that happen……..))
**Deir ez zor being the city where the US ‘mistakenly’ launched airstrikes killing 80+ SAA troops 6+ months ago, resulting in IS being in a position to divide SAA forces that still exist to this day, severely weakening their defense.
Palmyra is the hub of the energy supplies of Syria, that is why Islamic State have multio times tried to hold it.
On April 7, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) captured the Camel track and the Al-Sukari quarries and the Palmyra farms south of the ancient city of Palmyra in the province of Homs. These advances allowed the SAA to deploy closer to the strategic Khafseh town and the nearby gas fields.
https://southfront.org/syrian-army-advances-towards-gas-fields-near-palmyra-maps-video/
The SAA artillery also targeted ISIS positions and fortifications east of the Palmyra silos and the Arak gas field.
It’s expected that the SAA will continue its operations around Palmyra until it capture the gas field near Khafseh south of Palmyra, the Arak gas field east of the city, and the fields of Jazal, Maher and Al Shaere northwest of the city.
Last night, the T4 air base located near a front line with ISIS in the Homs desert was reportedly hit by the US Army with a single Tomahawk missile. The missile hit a maintenance facility within the air base. Most likely, this was one of the US missiles that didn’t hit the ash Shayrat military airfield near the city of Homs.
From its side, ISIS launched a limited attack early on April 7, targeting SAA points around the vilalge of Al Fruqlus minutes after the US missile strike on the nearby Al Shayrat air base. The ISIS advance was repelled by government forces, according to local sources.
This has also been heavily promoted by the presstitutes today…
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/07/westminster-attack-andreea-cristea-who-fell-from-bridge-dies-of-injuries
Bit of a coincidence, non, together with today’s ‘terror attack’ in Sweden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRPK425wLuQ
It’s all so blatant it’s laughable.
Perhaps she was silenced before she could speak!
Perhaps she died of despair after reading your stupid comments.
Or boredom after yours. Sorry mate, couldn’t help myself either.
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS TRULY THE WORLD’S LEADING TERRORIST ORGANISATION
When are they and Britain and Israel and Saudi Arabia and France and Australia and others going to be held accountable for the murder they commit?
When you become World President, Ron.
Martinned wrote, and I agreed (page 1) :
“Brutal dictator tests the waters with the new US president after said president said some seriously ill-advised things, and that confuses you because…?
This chemical attack is the Syrian equivalent of the recent North Korean missile tests. Dictators trying to tell the difference between the dumb things Trump says and the dumb things he might do.”
It looks as if the Butcher of Damascus has had the result of his testing of the waters….. 🙂
And the Russian bear had growled but stayed put. As expected by any serious observer.
The Butcher will be out before the end of the year.
Otherwise engaged until now, I have not read the comments of the last two pages or so.
Nor do I intend to do so unless there’s really nothing on TV.
But can someone please, please reassure me that the attack in Stockhom has already been denounced on this blog as a false flag/hologram/street theater/never happened/Mossad ?
Thanks.
I’d advise you to go back to watching garbage on the tv.
It might match your intellect.
“Were you up top a hill, with a sofa, popcorn, looking over into Syria with a smile on your face? Flashbacks to happier times watching white phosphorous rain down on Gaza.”
You are what you think.
“Cutting edge………………..’
Be careful, don’t snip yourself. Suggest you dry-up and zip yourself up. Off you go….
Reminder: even if the US allegations are accurate and the Assad government carried out a chemical attack on civilians, that would not give the US the right to bomb Syria except in self-defence, authorised by the UN Security Council, or requested by the Syrian government. The US bombing is unlawful.
Rob.
The Great Satan (consecutive US governments) is a power unto itself, the US if I recall right didn’t have UN mandate to ravage, murder and pillage Iraq, but did so anyway.
Re my above comment @20.06pm.
In 1980 Saddam Hussein was awarded the keys to the city of Detroit, by mayor Colman Young, for donating thousands of dollars to a local church.
Now look at the state of Detroit, and Iraq for that matter.
@Kempe
You “forgot” to return to our conversation. Remember? The one where I asked you twice to explain what YOU believe Assad’s motive was for using poison gas.
Idiotic question. The gas was being manufactured by rebels, slated for Iraq.
crater pics mean nada. A conventional weapon hit it just like in 2013.
You and paramours should get a room.
Luckily, I can never understand what the fuck you’re talking about.
THAT is a problem..
There’s two of us, then. Does he write in secret code?
I wish i knew but it’s not necessary to understand his motive.
So you have no evidence that he did it, and you can’t think of a motive, but yet you are certain he DID do it. Why?
You aren’t certain? My apology. I’m dealing with the nonsense he *assad) had any reason to spoil his relationships.
Ben, if you want to lose arguments while appearing to be a consummate arsehole, you’re probably on the right track.
Thanks for your Monday morn assessment.
Care to address an issue that can be resolved beyond your vague opinion?
Maybe if you won’t quake in your boots from a guy in a hired car on Westminster bridge:-
“Dull would he be of soul who could pass by
A sight so touching in its majesty:
This City now doth like a garment wear
The beauty of the morning; silent, bare,..”
you’ll have to quake at the threat of nukelear war between Russia and the US.
Have we already forgotten the predictions of Nafeez Ahmed and others at the outset of Trump’s presidency that Trump would try to drive a wedge between allies Russia and China? I know our simple minds do not and never will comprehend the fucked-up malignancy of the USUKIS neo-cons, but we are talking about politicians here, not human beings.
Trump is trying to convince China that Russia has chemicals on its hands. No smoke without fire.
hang all politicians like a maypole from Victoria Tower. Then you’ll know the true Romantic vision seen by Wordsworth:-
“Ne’er saw I, never felt, a calm so deep!
The river glideth at his own sweet will:
Dear God! the very houses seem asleep;
And all that mighty heart is lying still!”
Trump is Protus and protuses are usually pricks.
Those who gripe and complain that by launching missiles at Syria in response to a fairly obvious false flag chemical attack by Assad’s forces on civilians, Trump broke the norms of international law, was impetuous, and displayed a dangerous lack of judgement need to understand how former Bush spokesperson Karl Rove explained the neo-conservatives’ concept of reality.
Under neo-con doctrine presidents apparently have the power and the right by their actions to create their own reality based upon whatever they feel is expedient in any particular set of circumstances. Once the new reality is created, they can then inject this new fake reality into the minds of a gullible populace with the willing assistance of the propgaganda arm of the state – a craven, gutless, and whore-like main-stream media.
From a 2014 Tom Dispatch article: Karl Rove Unintentionally Predicted the Current Chaos in Iraq
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/us-karl-rove-iraq-crisis
Silvio
What you are describing is a process by which a very small group of people twiddling on the tiny joystick of military pornography eventually become lost in their own political fantasy. Fortunately the majority of us who retain our sanity and connection to reality have nothing to fear from the nutters in power.
Good points all..
Now if the local applause for Trump vs Hillary could absorb some angst for their foolish and silly preconceptions. But compensation, you know, some genuine accountability for their passive-aggressive compliance and support for the newest Presidunce, could re-establish their bona fides, depending in the amount they contribute as penance.
I take bitcoins
Yeah I’ve read that before. You missed something. if Trump did indeed seem to break with a certain etiquette, which I doubt very much, I reckon his executioners just handed him enough rope, in either case we didn’t believe it. By ‘we’ I mean ordinary people who’ve seen a little of how the world works and had enough time to reflect on it.
The full strangeness of his little ritual last night is sinking in. It isn’t going to sway our reality. It was a dead and empty gesture. The world has moved on. And Rove is very, very visible for what he is.
Now that’s EPIC. Brilliant sophistry lacking position and standards, save his own precious arse.
BANKSTERS
Loyds has announced that it is setting aside a further £100m, to compensate customers who lost money in a fraud scandal.
Six people, two of whom had worked for Halifax Bank of Scotland (HBOS) – owned by Lloyds – were jailed in February.
The court heard they stole hundreds of millions of pounds from small businesses who were their clients.
At the same time, the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) announced that it is re-opening an enquiry into the fraud.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39526140
Enough to make you vote for Jeremy Corbyn. Conned by their own side. Well, what can you say?
Your investment can go up, or down, especially with Conservative Market forces dressed in grey suits in Conservative un-regulated banks. One might be tempted to say, if one was a heartless person, ” You worshipped the false Tory deity of The Market, but like Ba’al, Thor, Demeter, Zeus or Botticelli’s Venus, these false gods and their priests and priestesses turned out to be liars.
The Grim Logic Behind Syria’s Chemical Weapons Attack
Steve Crickmore
This is the kind of crap the new York Times trolls are famous for. Completely disconnected waffle, with phrases like “witnesses saw” and ” a carefully calculated strategy of escalating attacks against civilians.” Any judge would throw out these unsubstantiated claims in a second. We know who the witnesses were, the White Helmets. We know who the accusers of harming civilians are, the Muslim Brotherhood and Saudi Arabia who have launched this violence upon the civilian population of Syria for seven years.
Trouble is, nobody is listening to The Neo-Con Times any more.
Steve the guardian is that way
———————>>>
Stage right…
Rifkind now crawls out of the woodwork and says he is vindicated, the 2013 YouTube video ghouta evidence he relied on was equally genuine, only thing missing were the white helmets back then. God help us from these devils they are here in this blog too.
Decline & Fall on the telly at 9. Seems apt. What has happened over past week is that the libertarian flank or performers in Trump’s circus tent have been outflanked by the old guard globalist centralist planning deep state with Banon’s downgrade and almost his resignation until his puppet master Robert Mercer told him to hang on for the long game, and the old guard now seemingly having some hold on Trump have been allowed to play with their toys, but perhaps the ringmaster doesn’t mind, was he ever a libertarian or is he Hillary in disguise, the NY Times records the spat between Banon and Kushner with the former deriding the latter for being a democrat, and the Circusmaster he has accomplished two things: (1) shut down the suggestion he is Russia’s patsy & (2) whilst seeming to get along swimmingly with President Xi of China, who will until now have thought the likelihood of Trump carrying out his N Korean threat to be an empty threat, he has delivered a strong message to China. Still they may think he is bluffing on N Korea unless he can immobilize that country’s missiles in minutes. He has also perhaps adopted something of an Israeli approach to foreign strikes ie short and surgical. Even if these are illegal they may be preferable to US intervention tactics in Iraq or our own in Libya. Anyway that’s my uninformed guesswork and rant for this evening. Now for Decline & Fall. Are there any genuinely funny Waugh satirists today…maybe – Paul Beatty is funny and clever….
Fwl.
I recall a interesting little event in the life of Evelyn Waugh, before he penned Decline and Fall, or Brideshead Revisited.
In 1925 Waugh tried to drown himself by walking into the sea, after securing his first teaching job. However he was stung by a jellyfish in the process, and decided to turn back to shore. ?
How grimey!
Ms Haley is holding forth again at the UN.
Syria war: UN emergency talks after US missile strikes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-39529264
‘US ambassador Nikki Haley said America had acted to ensure President Assad would never use chemical weapons again.
US Ambassador to the UN and current UN Security Council President Nikki Haley arrives for a UN Security Council meeting on Syria, 7 AprilImage copyright AFP
Image caption
The US is currently chairing the UN Security Council
She blamed Iran and Russia for standing by the Syrian government when it committed crimes. “Strengthening Assad will only lead to more murders,” she said.
The UK ambassador, Matthew Rycroft, said the US strikes were a “proportionate response to unspeakable acts”.
And the UK fell into line as per usual.
Here he is speaking.
https://twitter.com/foreignoffice/status/850400782868504577
His tweets are nasty and petty and do not befit an Ambassador.
‘In 2002, Rycroft was appointed Private Secretary to Prime Minister Tony Blair, to advise him on matters related to foreign policy, the European Union, Northern Ireland and defence. During this time Rycroft wrote a letter to Mark Sedwill, private secretary to the foreign secretary, Jack Straw.’
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Rycroft
Enough said.
Rycroft sounds like a right piece of shit. Iraqi blood dripping from his hands.
I kinda miss Samantha Power, who was a complete psychopath…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjlyLExFTL8
This is the UN ambassador of a country that’s butchered more people than the rest of the countries in the world put together.
Chemical weapons..? Remember the Vietnam war, where the USA used a chemical weapon called Agent Orange, which killed at the very least one million people, and large numbers of people continue to die to this day.
Come on all you psychos, wackos, complete loons and US apologists/craven lackeys, keep telling us how terrible the ‘chemical attack’ in Syria is, and how we must ‘attack Syria’ (cause the twerrorists are coming to get us).
You are total war criminals and total scum, and you will be held to account.
Everything you do is being carefully noted, including the utter vermin who come on comment boards like this and try to push for continual murder and mayhem.
(this comment is obviously not directed at Mary)
In northeastern Laos between 1968 and 1970 the US carried out what still remains the most sustained bombing campaign ever against a civilian population.
US Under Secretary of State U. Alexis Johnson later told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the US bombing of Laos had been “very cost effective”.
From Campaign Against the Arms Trade
8 April 2017
This week Theresa May was in Saudi Arabia, pushing for more trade with one of the world’s most repressive regimes.
Meanwhile, International Trade Minister Liam Fox was in the Philippines, courting President Dutertes, a man who has boasted of committing murder and threatened to kill human rights campaigners. Fox said he was hoping for closer links building on “shared values and shared interests.”
Theresa May insisted the UK’s relationship with Saudi Arabia and other arms buyers gives the UK ‘influence’, but in reality the influence goes the other way, with the UK so keen to make deals that it will overlook the most horrific abuses.
Join us at Parliament on Wednesday 19 April to ask MPs to act to put human rights ahead of arms sales.
Of course, May couldn’t criticise Saudi Arabia’s brutal war in Yemen: it’s a war being waged with UK-supplied warplanes, bombs and missiles and, despite the devastation, she is hoping to smooth the way for even more arms deals.
Through all this the UK government still insists it has “one of the most robust arms export control regimes in the world.”
We hear this line time and time again – but it’s what the government does that matters, not what it says.
What it does is promote and supply arms sales to repressive regimes and countries involved in conflict.
If you can, please join us in London on Wednesday 19 April for a parliamentary lobby to call on the government to put human rights ahead of arms sales.
https://www.caat.org.uk/campaigns/stop-arming-saudi/broken-system
Government promotion of arms sales is not new of course but, with Brexit, the current government seems even less concerned about human rights abuses. It is a crucial time to increase awareness among our representatives and push for more meaningful scrutiny of government. Join the lobby and make your voice heard.
If you can’t make it to the lobby, please consider sending your MP a personal letter about the UK government’s immoral and illegal arms sales to Saudi Arabia and its wider promotion of arms sales.
https://www.caat.org.uk/campaigns/stop-arming-saudi/mp-lobby
Thank you for your support.
Campaign Against Arms Trade
P.S. We’re still waiting for the result of our Judicial Review into the UK’s arms sales to Saudi Arabia: we will update you as soon as we hear!
We’re back to the Nixonian doctrine that to impress the world it id necessary to establish that one is mad and given to inexplicable outbursts of violent rage. I don’t doubt that Xi and the Chinese Politburo are not at all impressed or intimidated by a routine piece of US bullying.
The world understands that the US is the home of lynch law, where the sudden execution of innocents, suffering from the disability of vulnerability, is and long has been America’s signature contribution to jurisprudence.
In Chicago today a Police Officer called Guevara is on trial for framing, over a period of years, more than five dozen people with murder. Some of them are still alive. In almost every case the evidence connecting the one framed to a crime was flimsy to the point that it is remarkable either that a prosecutor pursued the case or a jury turned in a guilty verdict. His defence is being conducted by the City, headed by Obama’s friend and the Democtatic party stalwart Rahm Emanuel.
But that is America for you, where the basic law is that the powerful can do anything that they want because nobody dares to stop them.
On the case of Syria, the guilt or innocence of the Syrian government is immaterial, because it is untested. There has been no investigation, no forensic examinations, just the ‘reports’ of Al Qaeda and its MI 6 financed White Helmet front organisation.
What is undeniable is that the US is acting beyond the bounds of international law or civilised custom. It is acting as Nazi Germany used to do and as Israel does. So now Pandora’s Box is open: any country that wishes to do so simply has to fabricate an excuse, wave a few pictures at the TV cameras and flirt with Armageddon.
This is what John Helmer wrote in his blog today:
“The Russian Foreign Ministry issued its first response this morning at 10:27 Moscow time. “It is obvious that the cruise missile attack was prepared in advance. Any expert understands that Washington’s decision on air strikes predates the Idlib events, which simply served as a pretext for a show of force. Russia suspends the Memorandum of Understanding on Prevention of Flight Safety Incidents in the course of operations in Syria signed with the US.”
“Read that last sentence aloud. It makes the CLICK! sound when the safety catch is released on a weapon.”
The lights are going out, to use Grey’s words.
Back in September 2015, Putin addressed the UN; the first time he had done so for a decade.
Amongst other things, Putin stated that Russia will no longer tolerate the American Frankenstein (ie, American hegemony). None of this was widely reported in the western media.
A day or so after this speech the Russians intervened in Syria. A year or so later we’re now at the stage where the head-chopping lunatics have almost been defeated; yet incredibly we’re now at a stage where the western media are trying to convince the public that Assad & Co are totally evil, and we are bombing Assad & Co in order to allow the ISIS nutters to continue.
That’s how mad it all is.
The war criminals in the west constantly take the piss out of the public for being so gullible.
Here we go, here’s another ‘terror attack’, just to keep you all quaking in your boots, and to allow the psychos to continue their agenda.
If the Scottish Donald can press the button to unleash 59 Tomahawk weapons on an airbase, close to Palmyra ( hydrocarbon transition hub for Syria), and instantly Islamic State take advantage ( who primed them?),
only a week ago the Scottish Donald was going to concentrate on wipe-out for Islamists.
What changed his fucking mind?
Norton, will you f**k off with your “Scottish Donald” shite.
Trump is now a neocon.
Be very afraid.
It’ll take some convincing as many here eschew aplogeia for the sake of Progressivism or LABOUR victims of self’importance.
He’s always been antidemocratic so it shouldn’t be surprising to anyone with an IQ in double-digits.
We are all entitled to our weak spots. Trump being in-bred gets a double chip on his shoulder for being a poor lost little immigrant child like George Bush and John McCain. They do genuinely not give a sausage about anybody else.
Yesterday one of my former skype contacts was impersonated in some kind of honey trap. The yellow emoticon with three hearts spinning round its head. I was not taken in. But republican con-men didn’t get where they are today by working on human passions like the dunces from the police. They give you exactly the message you want to hear.
I can’t afford bitcoin. I’ll have to pay costs in kind. I can unblock a mean P trap. Fit a new element in an old oven, Repair a tap. Change the microswitches on a shower. In fact most single digit IQ tasks. But Ex-Celtic blarney from characters like Craig Murray and Donald Trump get me every time. Tell me. Should I be worried that Trump bombed Syria and Craig attacked Ken Livingstone – in the same week?
Psychic dollars suffice. Thanks for the reflection. It’s free like the best software.
Tomahawk maker’s stock up after U.S. launch on Syria.
Because.
http://internationaltimes.it/america-how-it-works/
Thx for the uptick in production and inventories…Craig Murray Progressives.
FATBOT Watson is all for the shoot-out with Syria, he is well up for it.
FATBOY is the deputy Labour Leader.
J.C. is the Labour leader, J.C. is very much more cautious.
If I was Corby I’d get the dirt on FATBOY
and have him stung.
Michael,
Here read this, you’ll find it fascinating
http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/articles/rrtalk.htm
People Hopefully are Wakening Up..Even BBC Guests ..Having None of it
Hats off to Sacha Llorenti the Bolivia envoy at the security meeting today..Holding up a picture of Colin Powell lies Before the Iraq catastrophe –
https://www.rt.com/news/383953-us-afraid-of-real-investigation-syria/
Well, I’ve finally seen a defence of the attack (InfoWars, of course). Not buying it, because I think it’s a stupid mistake, but the only thing that might be worth considering is that, apparently, The Scottish Donald chose the most limited option. If – and it’s a huge if – it stops there, and doesn’t escalate into something much nastier, then perhaps The Donald isn’t entirely captured by neocons. Clinton wouldn’t have chosen the ‘most limited’ option, we can be sure.
I dread to think what the least limited option was. Possibly to use Sarin gas on the citizens of the US, to show them how bad it was, in order to garner support. These people are genuinely crazy, I should probably be more terrified. I note in passing that the MSM and most of the UK parliament got sexually aroused by the bombings, and thirst for more; probably not even worth noting these days, it’s so common.
There you go, again. Making an addicts excuses for bad decisions isn’t sufficient for recovery..in point of fact, it exacerbates.
Repent!
No excuses from me. It’s a massive blunder, and a dumb move. Even Obama avoided such a move, the last time. Rule of Thumb: if John McCain is praising you, Houston you have a problem.
Understood. I am gratified that recognition precedes the neocons..wait!
They still defend the AUMF on Iraq..
What you talking about Benny? Don’t you know diversity is our greatest strength. No addicts and no bad excuses here just ask anyone who has been run over recently and they will just sing the praises of diversity.
Just think of all those good ole pure American boys raised on corn and sunshine who pretty soon will be dying of cold and hunger on the steppes of the old USSR – God bless diversity!!
And I like to be in Africa – beating on that final drum
And I like to be in USSR – making sure these things will come
And I like to be in USA – pretending that the wars are done
And I like to be in Europa – saying goodbye to everyone
http://www.voltairenet.org/article195904.html
Thierry Meyssan:
” The Syrian anti-air defence system includes S-300’s controlled by the Syrian Arab Army and S-400’s served by the Russian army. These weapons are supposed to be capable of intercepting cruise missiles, although the situation has never yet presented itself in combat conditions. They are, of course, triggered automatically, but they did not function either. Therefore no anti-missile missiles were fired, neither by the Russian army, nor by the Syrian army.
When the US cruise missiles hit their targets, they landed on a military base which was almost deserted, having been evacuated only a short time before. Therefore, the missiles destroyed the tarmac, the radar equipment and a number of aircraft which had long been out of service, some hangars and living quarters. They nonetheless caused a dozen victims, six of whom died.”
“Damascus, by sacrificing this base and the lives of a few men, gave him the authority to carry out a vast action against anyone who uses chemical weapons. But so far, the only people who actually use these weapons, and have been identified by the United Nations for doing so, are – the jihadists.”
So as I said, Russia and Trump were colluding because otherwise the missiles wouldn’t have got through the Russian air defences. What kind of -coin does Trump take?
What is the currency of the Ukraine?
What is the exchange rate for Trump dollars?(sic)
Hryvnia.
Death
Ukraine Currency is he hyrvinia.
501st comment on momentous thread of UK fealty.
Craig sucks on ethnocentrism, Big Time
Russia Insider, which I do not agree with on everything, believes that the US knew in advance about the proposed chemical weapons attack and were preparing to launch missiles when the event was made public.
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/zakharova-us-missile-strikes-were-planned-alleged-gas-attack-syria/ri19480
That of course could be questionable. But it is not the first place I have seen this allegation. Parliament chose, wisely on that occasion, not to go to war on an unproven accusation. My fears are parliament may return to the Blairite mentality of war for oil.
https://www.sott.net/article/347424-Peter-Hitchens-Idlib-attack-is-WMD-all-over-again-Why-dont-you-see-it
https://www.sott.net/article/347424-Peter-Hitchens-Idlib-attack-is-WMD-all-over-again-Why-dont-you-see-it
A little light is helpful..
Light as The Pipes Lighting Up the Kilt Ben
Stay Well Bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csla5h_cSQU
Howzit, Bri?
Yo Ben
It was a Wonderful day…From one Source..
We got a £1.000 Donation For the Babies Today.
Hope you are Keepin up with The Sciences…. Quite at Squonk. The Noo..But For Trow
Some fake news for your enjoyment. http://internationaltimes.it/fake-news-2/
Just how stupid are Russians?
So, we have the Russian-Syrian axis dropping chemical weapons on people and the US acting to destroy the ability of Russia-Syria to deploy more chemical weapons (presumably by blowing up remaining chemical weapons stockpiles). Russian reporters on the ground do not wear gas masks or any other protection from chemical weapons. No Russians suffer any effects from any form of chemical weapons.
Is pure stupidity an antidote from exposure to chemical weapons – or is there a more probable explanation? Did not Conan-Doyle opine via the mouth of Sherlock Holmes “When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth”
Find the discussion here and in the media pretty pathetic.
No mention of what Putin and Xi are saying and doing together with a wild man who has said they both must go while soft-soaping them about friendship and wanting better relations when he finds it convenient.
They are preparing a trap for his tactical nuclear attacks, his plan about it all, on NK.