There is a logical fallacy that dominates European neoliberal “thinking” at the moment. It goes like this.
“Hitler had unlimited territorial ambition and proceeded to attempt conquest of all Europe after annexing the Sudetenland. Therefore Putin has unlimited territorial ambition and will proceed to attempt conquest of all Europe after annexing Eastern Ukraine.”
This fallacious argument gives no evidence of Putin’s further territorial ambition. For evidence of Putin’s threat to the UK, Keir Starmer risibly refers to the Salisbury “novichok” affair, perhaps the most pathetic propaganda confection in history.
But even if you were to be so complacent as to accept the official version of events in Salisbury, does an assassination attempt on a double agent credibly indicate a desire by Putin to launch World War 3 or invade the UK?
Hitler’s territorial ambitions were not hidden. His desire for lebensraum and, crucially, his view that the Germans were a superior race who should rule over the inferior races, was plain in print and in speeches.
There is simply no such evidence for wide territorial ambition by Putin. He is not pursuing a crazed Nazi ideology that drives to conquest – or for that matter a Marxist ideology that seeks to overthrow the established order around the world.
The economic alignment project of BRICS is not designed to promote an entirely different economic system, just to rebalance power and flows within the system, or at most to create a parallel system not skewed to the advantage of the United States.
Neither the end of capitalism nor territorial expansion is part of the BRICS project.
There is simply no evidence of Putin having territorial goals beyond Ukraine and the tiny enclaves of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. It is perfectly fair to characterise Putin’s territorial expansion over two decades as limited to the reincorporation of threatened Russian-speaking minority districts in ex-Soviet states.
That it is worth a world war and unlimited dead over who should be mayor of the ethnic Russian and Russian-speaking city of Lugansk is not entirely plain to me.
The notion that Putin is about to attack Poland or Finland is utter nonsense. The idea that the Russian army, which has struggled to subdue small and corrupt, if Western-backed, Ukraine, has the ability to attack Western Europe itself is plainly impractical.
The internal human rights record of Putin’s Russia is poor, but at this point it is marginally better than that of Zelensky’s Ukraine. For example the opposition parties in Russia are at least allowed to contest elections, albeit on a heavily sloped playing field, whereas in Ukraine they are banned outright.
Still less convincing are the arguments that Russia’s overseas political activities in third countries require massive Western increases in armaments to prepare for war with Russia.
The plain truth is that the Western powers interfere far more in other countries than Russia does, through massive sponsorship of NGOs, journalists and politicians, much of which is open and some of which is covert.
I used to do this myself as a British diplomat. Revelations from USAID or the Integrity Initiative leaks give the public a glimpse into this world.
Yes, Russia does it too, but on a much smaller scale. That this kind of Russian activity indicates a desire for conquest or is a cause for war, is such a shallow argument it is hard to believe in the good faith of those promoting it.
I have also seen Russian military intervention in Syria put forward as evidence that Putin has plans of world conquest.
Russian intervention in Syria prevented for a time its destruction by the West in the same way that Iraq and Libya were destroyed by the West. Russia held back the coming to power of crazed Islamic terrorists, and the massacre of Syria’s minority communities. Those horrors are now unfolding, in part because of the weakening of Russia through the Ukraine war.
But for those nations that destroyed Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya to argue that Russia’s intervention in Syria shows Putin to be evil, is dishonesty of the highest degree. The United States has had a quarter of Syria under military occupation for over a decade and has been stealing almost all of Syria’s oil.
Pointing at Russia here is devoid of reason.
Strangely, the same “logic” is not applied to Benjamin Netanyahu. It is not argued by neoliberals that his annexations of Gaza, the West Bank and Southern Lebanon mean he must have further territorial ambitions. In fact, they even fail to note Netanyahu’s aggressions at all, or portray them as “defensive” – the same argument advanced much more credibly by Putin in Ukraine, but which neoliberals there outright reject.
The economies of Western Europe are being realigned onto a war footing, led by the utterly transformed European Union. The enthusiastic proponents of genocide in Gaza who head the EU now are channelling an atavistic hereditary hatred of Russia.
The foreign policy of the EU is propelled by Kaja Kallas and Ursula von der Leyen. The fanatical Russophobia these two are spreading, and their undisguised desire to escalate the war in Ukraine, cannot help but remind Russians that they come from nations which were fanatically Nazi.
To Russians this feels a lot like 1941. With Europe in the grip of full-on anti-Russian propaganda, the background to Trump’s attempt to broker a peace deal is troubled and Russia is understandably wary.
The UK continues to play the most unhelpful of roles. They have despatched Morgan Stanley’s Jonathan Powell to advise Zelensky on peace talks. As Blair’s Chief of Staff, Powell played a crucial role in the illegal invasion of Iraq. He was also heavily implicated in the death of David Kelly.
Wherever there is war and money to be made from war, you will find the same ghouls gathering. Those involved in launching the invasion of Iraq should be excluded from public life. Instead Powell is now the UK’s National Security Adviser.
I am not a follower of Putin. The amount of force used to crush Chechnya’s legitimate desire for self-determination was disproportionate, for example. It is naive to believe that you get to be leader of the KGB by being a gentle person.
But Putin is not Hitler. It is only through the blinkers of patriotism that Putin appears to be a worse person than the Western leaders behind massive invasion and death all around the globe, who now seek to extend war with Russia.
Here in the UK, the Starmer government is seeking actively to prolong the war, and is looking for a huge increase in spending on weapons, which always brings kickbacks and future company directorships and consultancies for politicians.
To fund this warmongering, New Labour are cutting spending on the UK’s sick, disabled and pensioners and cutting aid to the starving overseas.
This is a picture of Keir Starmer meeting with Israeli President Herzog, six months after the ICJ interim ruling quoted a statement by Herzog as evidence of genocidal intent.
The Starmer government was voted for by 31% of those who bothered to cast a vote, or 17% of the adult population. It is engaged in wholesale legal persecution of leading British supporters of Palestine, and is actively complicit in the genocide in Gaza.
I see no moral superiority here.
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Great news and quite on topic.
The European Court of Human Right recognised Ukraine responsible for Odessa massacre on May 2, 2014
Russian news agency reports
https://ria-ru.translate.goog/20250313/odessa-2004757506.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp
“The Court unanimously held that there had been a violation of Article 2 of the European Convention on Human Rights in that the authorities had failed to do what could reasonably be expected of them to prevent the violence in Odessa on 2 May 2014, to stop that violence once it had broken out, to take timely measures to rescue people caught in the fire, and to organise and conduct an effective investigation into the events,” the document says.
“The arrival of fire engines at the scene of the fire was deliberately delayed by 40 minutes, and the police did not intervene to help evacuate people from the building quickly and safely. Thus, the state failed to provide timely rescue measures,” the judges said.
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deliberately delayed?
Please if someone can link to the original statement, I’d like to see the exact wording.
https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#_Toc191644363
Plough through that!
It is absolutely admirable that the ECHR decision, only transcribed today on their website, has already been reported on Russian state media, and even immediately forwarded by the cuckoo clock. See above link for details.
Talk about alertness! No doubt the answer to the ceasefire agreement offered by Donald and Ze will come just as promptly…
Madison
You are doing that sarcasm thing a bit too much considering that the headline all over the Russian media is that Putin is supportive of a ceasefire as such. Typical Putin move, always acting exactly the opposite of what the western msm experts said he would.
No sarcasm at all. We’ll eventually find out who wants ‘long lasting’ peace or not. Be ready for a rebuttal.
Are you suggesting that the Russian msm are privy to Vladimir’s inner thoughts?
Thanks, Pears.
There’s no need in ploughing through, when you get a digital doc. Simply push Ctrl and F buttons and hold them for a while. The text field appears on the screen. You can print a word and the machine finds it in the text.
In mobile brousers this feature is accessible via 3 vertical dots in the right upper corner. The option is Find on the page.
Well, I found this, the second entry in the page you gave.
https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#{%22itemid%22:[%22001-242505%22]}
Using the feature that I described above I found in the text the following:
The three SES officials were charged with aggravated leaving in danger on account of the delayed dispatch of firefighting vehicles and equipment on 2 May 2014, in compliance with the manifestly unlawful order by Mr Bodelan (see paragraphs 64-66 and 68-69 above).
Although the firefighters reportedly faced obstruction and threats from some aggressive activists (ibid.), there is nothing in the extensive publicly available photographic and video evidence to suggest that they were considerably delayed in carrying out their mission once at the scene.
Although it was never disputed that Mr Bodelan, the former Head of the SES Main Department in the Odesa Region, had been responsible for the delayed deployment of fire engines to Kulykove Pole (see paragraphs 65 and 182 above), no criminal investigation was launched in respect of him until 1 March 2016 (see paragraph 186 above)
Thanks also to Pears Morgaine for the link. It is indeed a weighty document and judgment. In a nutshell, the verdict seems to be. “Yes, Ukraine failed to protect its citizens from being murdered, but that was really Russia’s fault”.
If Tatyana´s translated link above won´t open here the archived version:
“RIA – ECHR finds Ukraine guilty of failing to prevent violence during protests in Odessa”
https://archive.is/Bo9tC
A German documentary feature about the events in Odessa by East German director Wilhelm Domke-Schulz:
“Remember Odessa” (aired around 2022), shot 2014/2018
90 min., BW
https://odysee.com/@alexbynature:d/rememberodessa:4
The original sound is UKR/RU
Subs are German. But its mainly old-style observational (tradition of “direct cinema”), i.e. no talking heads.
Good handheld camera, shot on location.
For those who have a YT-account to log into (I don´t) it´s on YT too, may be an Engl. auto-translation is available there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itJizpcx34Q
movie info:
“In the winter of 2014, mass protests rocked the Ukrainian capital. At the end of February, the violence escalated. The bitter street battles between demonstrators and police claimed over 100 lives on both sides. President Yanukovych was overthrown. Radical Ukrainian nationalists seized power in Kyiv.
The coup triggered large-scale counter-protests in eastern and southern Ukraine. The Russian minority did not recognize the Ukrainian nationalist government. Odessa became an important center of civil resistance. Tens of thousands of people protested against the illegitimate regime in Kyiv every week.
In the spring, a decision was looming. On May 2, 2014, several hundred radical nationalists stormed the protest camp. The government opponents fled to the trade union building behind it. There, dozens of them fell victim to flames, poison gas, and brutal gangs of thugs. They died agonizing deaths.
Since then, every year on May 2nd, thousands of people have gathered on Kulikov Field in front of the Trade Union Building to commemorate the unforgettable victims of Odessa. At the same time, Ukrainian nationalists march through the city streets and celebrate their “Victory Day.” The murderers of Odessa remain at large to this day.
The film “Remember Odessa” delves into the deeply wounded soul of the torn-apart city. The camera observes the precise moment when nationalist murderers and the grieving relatives of their brutally murdered victims meet in close quarters. Face to face. On the day of the tragedy. On May 2nd, 2014. And four years later. On May 2nd, 2018. In the center of Odessa and on Kulikov Field in front of the Trade Union Building. At the site of the horrific crime that remains unpunished to this day.”
Let me add a link to the recording of Ukrainian TV show Shuster.Live
https://youtu.be/CmCU9OL0j9k
The TV was on air May 2, 2014. Some Goncharenko showed videos of the tragedy and reported “separatists are defeated, Ukraine won”. And the people in the studio applauded and rejoiced.
Ukrainians, these good caring christians, found it a reason for extremely cynical jokes. For example, “Odessa-style kebab” and “fried separatists” appeared on the menu in restaurants.
Now these good people run around the squares of European cities with flags, saying that they’ve done nothing wrong, there’s nothing bad in Ukrainian nationalism, and that the war is unprovoked.
Goncharenko today sits in the Council of Europe, you won’t believe it, he is busy with migrants and refugees policy.
Goncharenko: of course he is….
Yes it´s a giant mess here.
I have completely stopped even looking into TV program schedules.
You can´t imagine the level of incompetence and jingoism spread via the major TV-stations.
I have been thinking repeatedly of that Hollywood dystopia “V for Vendetta”.
Whilst we are not there that people are dragged off the street and tortured and killed.
The mood in the media is similiar to what you are getting in that film.
For sure it´s impossible to change the course of government by legal means.
The worst thing for me is, people who I know often do not see it.
Some respond and claim this is not the Third Reich.
I have never said that. But in the 3rd Reich people had families too, there were love stories, they slept with each other, they fought, they had birthday parties, they felt happiness and sadness, they went out for a walk, the played soccer and pool and built little things with their kids and breast-fed them and so on.
As long as you were not a Commie or a Jew you could have a decent life.
Even under “Mr. Hilter”.
The normalcy of the abnormal.
In Sept. 2024 Ivan Katchanovski had this paper out:
“Far-Right Political Violence in Ukraine:
Assessment of the Donbas War and the Odesa
Massacre
Ivan Katchanovski* and Max Abrahms”
https://nicolascinquini.blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/perspectivesonterrorism24092601.pdf
I am waiting for something updated by him in response to ECHR.
Gonchareko just reported that Demian Ganul was killed in Odessa.
https://ria-ru.translate.goog/20250314/odessa-2004977927.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp
The man is believed to be the perfomer of the tragedy.
Ganul was in the Right Sector, Ukrainian nazi movement. Later he made ‘Front of the Streets’ movement in Odessa. No football fans, as many prefer to describe them.
On the May2, 2014 tragedy commemoration event Ganul brought grilled meat on skewers. He posed for the camera, hinting at people who were burned alive. He commented “no regrets, they weren’t people, I don’t consider it a crime”.
There are reports that he was shot down, a control shot was fired then, right on the city street under cameras. People are speculating that after the ECHR decision, the organizers are getting rid of the perpetrators, in anticipation of a possible investigation.
“To Russians this feels a lot like 1941”
To me it feels more like 1914.
Then, as now, there was a complicated tangle of alliances and enmities. Everyone was armed to the teeth. Any spark, no matter how minor, was inevitably going to set Eurasia ablaze. Then a couple of pistol shots fired at an obscure Duke, of whom most Brits had never heard, triggered a World War.
This time around we are all in ever greater peril because of the existence of absurdly overstuffed arsenals of thermonuclear weapons, the use of which will render our blue planet inhabitable than by little more than microbes and perhaps some hardy species of cockroach.
It was the great Russian General/Marshall, Georgy Zhukov, who said, We’ve freed Europe from Nazism, and they’ll never forgive us for it – or words to that effect.
It shows us just how evil – certain EU bigwigs are (Kallas von der Leyen, etc) that they are have embraced Nazism in order to try and break Russia ; mind you the US gave sanctuary to many Nazi’s post-WWII – Churchill was great admirer of the Fascist Mussolini – the likes of Canada, also has certain groups who have affiliations with the Neo-Nazi’s in Ukraine
For many leaders in the West, Nazism and Zionism are in fashion.
Alastair Crooke in this article argues that Euro leaders are leading their electorates into conflict with Russia, and are delusional about its ability to defeat Russia both financially and militarily. Trump reportedly views with utter disdain the UK and European boast that should the U.S. not do it, then Europe will. The Brussels class claims to be able still – after three years of losing in Ukraine – to be able to inflict a humiliating defeat on President Putin.
The European élites are deeply unstable ‘leaders’ who are risking the prosperity and stability of the continent. It is clear these countries do not have the military capacity to intervene in any concerted manner. More than anything, it is the European economy circling the drain that is the reality at the gates.
Zelensky is accomplice to the European insistence that defeating Russia takes priority over achieving peace in Ukraine, in spite of lacking any strategic rationale as to how it may be achieved after three years of a worsening military situation. Both plans – crushing the Russian economy with sanctions and attrition of the Russian military to the point of collapse – have failed. Why then does Zelensky resist Trump’s peace proposals? On the surface, it makes no sense.
https://www.eurasiareview.com/12032025-europe-faces-a-maga-vibe-shift-as-trump-moves-to-his-primordial-objective-the-global-reset-oped/
Zelensky doesn’t want peace for the same reason Netanyahu doesn’t want peace. They know what awaits them around the corner …
Putin’s ambitions regarding Ukraine are clear from a speech he gave on 21st Feb 2022 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_concerning_the_events_in_Ukraine#Related_topics).
May he fail to destroy Ukrainian democracy, thanks to the resolve of the United Kingdom and the European Union, even if Trump lets him down (and lets down America’s historic ideals and responsibilities as well, in the process of betraying Ukraine as a fellow democracy).
Слава Україні!
I think it is interesting that people without any understanding began to shout ” Слава Україні!” just like that, especially foreigners, atleast germans understood what the term “Sieg Heil!” meant and who created the slogan. 99,8% of westerners have no idea of course that ” Слава Україні!” originally is a fascist term. Really prove how easily duped people really are.
There is no Ukrainian democracy. The opposition parties are banned.
What, no Yes Minister-enko running against Boxerenko standing for the Punch Party?
(Absolutely no offence intended to the memory of actor Paul Eddington or to the former boxer Frank Bruno.)
Oh come on Craig.
Russia is a democracy in name only.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_Vladimir_Putin_in_Russia
Sure Ukraine has banned pro-Russian parties but didn’t England ban Mosley’s party during WW2?
Since the Kiev regime’s definition (and yours, it seems) of “pro-Russian” is everyone who isn’t a enthusiastic supporter of the current government’s policies, including anyone who might dare to prefer peace to war, you may have a point there. However, this was most definitely not the case in wartime UK.
From your link: “the latter oppose the government and are mostly unrepresented in government bodies.” i.e, they are the Russian equivalent of the ragtag and bobtail parties who stand at every election in the UK and never win a single seat. Does this mean that the UK is not a democracy either?
JK Redux
The “pro-russian” label is used to fool people like yourself that the anti-democratic act of banning of some 15 political parties is somehow legitimate.
Mosley represented a fascist party, parties banned in Ukraine, among them the biggest, was not a fascist party and was the party reps. elected in free and fair election (see link below). Bringing up Mosley seems a bit disingenuous considering your views on Russia and considering the view Mosley had on Russia, one wonder if you would not have been an ardent supporter of Mosley if you where born back then?
The final time Yanukovich was elected. International observers say Ukrainian election was free and fair"
https://www.oscepa.org/en/news-a-media/press-releases/press-2010/international-observers-say-ukrainian-election-was-free-and-fair
You would have to be blind,deaf and stupid to think that real democracy prevails in the US or its allies. As Gore Vidal pointed out, in the US the Republicans and the Democrats form but two wings of the Property party. The late US election has foisted the lunatic fringe of this party on America and indeed the wider world, in about every sense of the word
Ukraine’s Parliament.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verkhovna_Rada
The only opposition parties that were banned were pro-Russian. How many anti-war MPs sit in the Duma?
formal logic, rule #1: a thought must be identical to itself. In simple terms, both parts of your statement must contain comparable things. Checking for compatibility is easy.
please, check:
The only opposition parties that were banned (*in Russia) were pro-Ukrainian. – Russian, Ukrainian, ethnicity, ethnic minority, neighbouring, international relations.
And:
How many pro-war MPs sit in the (*Ukrainian) Rada? – war, conflict, deaths, suffering,
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The same you can apply everywhere, like, you can say ‘Russians must die’ but you cannot say ‘Jews must die’. In terms of logic it is a contradiction, which means the idea is incorrect in its essence..
“The only opposition parties that were banned were pro-Russian.”
So they were banned for disagreeing with the party line of the government. Not much of a democracy, then, is it?
How many pro-Ukraine war parties and members sit in the House of Commons and mirrored in the House of Lords? Warmongers, the whole of the British establishment (excepting the Independent Alliance which of course is not a political party)
How many anti-Ukraine MPs sit in the Commons then.
650 UK elected representatives giving a standing ovation lasting 20 minutes to a drug addict that could have signed the Istanbul peace agreement preventing the death of over one million mostly the young is a sign of healthy democracy, is it? You what? Released too early Pears?
Apparently, the Constitutional Court of Ukraine that Zelensky didbanded was also pro-Russian.
Craig,
how independent do you think ECHR is e.g. with its Odessa verdict.
Also compared to ICJ and such criticism as Finkelstein´s allegations against judge Sebutinde.
Is it conceivable there would have been more sympathy by the court towards Assange in comparison to a case involving Russia in some form, or rather not.
Mr. Murray, we’d like to be sure what you mean exactly.
If you condemn the current Ukraine regime for allegedly banning opposition parties, does it imply that, despite previous statements, you still believe yet in democracy as a desirable political situation. If so, please quote nations that currently fulfill your beliefs. If not, why rebuke Ukraine for not following whims you reject or cannot be implemented?
There’s here another logical conundrum, let alone fallacy. And for the cuckoo clock, formal logic rule #2
omitting your personal fixation on cuckoos and clocks (I’ll generously save your nerves by not sharing the pictures that my creative imagination paints about this)
I want to note: you are incorrectly attributing rule #2
Rule #3 should be applied here, but I believe that you have not yet progressed to this paragraph of the textbook.
There’s a set of criteria to live up to the name. Either it is a democracy, or it is not. Tertium non datur.
The link is to a Wikipedia (really !) article that ‘interprets’ Putin’s speech along with various inline comments that essentially say well that’s false because Putin. You might as well have quoted BBC fact checkers. Sorry, It’s all BS.
And, there is no such thing as Ukrainian democracy to be destroyed, but there are a few nazis getting a little nervous.
Stevie Boy
You are dismissing the wiki article simply because it is wiki.
If you disagree with the article, please specify the Russian opposition parties that have been permitted to stand for election to the Duma or the Presidency.
“If you disagree with the article, please specify the Russian opposition parties that have been permitted to stand for election to the Duma or the Presidency.”
Irrelevant, but if you really want to know, it’s all in Wikipedia.
The Communist Party of Russia is one of the largest opposition parties and is well represented in Russia’s parliament. They also retain their historical news media, Pravda. Pravda regularly prints articles which contest government policy and decisions linked with President Putin.
My opinion of freedom of speech in Russia compared with western Europe is that they are similar. Both regions have sensitive topics they do not want discussed in public. With regard to media I find Russia’s news sources more accurate in describing events today and predicting outcomes for tomorrow.
I go along with that. Moreover they are often more accurate in their news coverage of events in the UK than the UK media.
Russia’s “loyal opposition”
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/russia-opposition-communist-just-russia-support-ukraine-war/
Disseminating ‘fake news’ in Russia – that is, anything that challenges the official narrative – is punishable by heavy fines or up to 15 years in prison.
https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-expand-laws-criminalize-fake-news/
So much for freedom of speech.
At least, it’s a full year more than supporting terrorism in the UK, where maximum penalty is only 14 years…
“Putin’s ambitions regarding Ukraine are clear from a speech he gave on 21st Feb 2022”
Did you actually bother to read your link? There is nothing in there about “destroying Ukranian democracy”, not even anything about annexing Ukraine. All there is is a perfectly understandable desire for Ukraine not to join NATO, an organisation that was formed to oppose Russia and has continued in that aim ever since. It is not as if NATO has made any secret of this, either. Also for it to uphold the commitments it made in the Minsk agreements, which it had completely failed to do.
Well according to some there is no such thing as democracy in Ukraine. What Putin did do was to challenge the right of Ukraine to exist as a sovereign state. He believes it to be an historical part of Russia so his intention is to reintegrate it into Greater Russia with direct governance from Moscow via a suitable apparatchik or Quisling as he already has with Crimea and the Donbas regions.
Did you actually read what he said? Because he didn’t do that either. All he said was that Ukraine as a separate state doesn’t have a very long history. Your analysis of Putin’s intentions regarding Ukraine is, of course, completely a work of imagination.
No he did not. What he said was that if Ukraine continues to misbehave (I forgot what they did wrong at that particular moment), their statehood will be in perils.
Of course he said more than the piece I mentioned, but that was in reply to an assertion that Putin had “challenged the right of Ukraine to exist as a sovereign state”.
Ukraine was a sovereign state until Feb 24 2014, Pears, corrupt but independent, after Victoria Nuland’s violent overthrow of a democratically elected President and her appointing the PM and the other Ministers (it’s still on u-tube, check it out) Ukraine turned into a colony of the US, what Putin challenged was a colony of the US not a sovereign state unless in you were to argue that the country whose Government is appointed by a middle ranking apparatchik from another country is a proof of the former country being sovereign and independent.
@ M.J.
The septics and their Ukronazi proxies destroyed Ukrainian democracy in 2014.
Have you read or heard Putin’s speach?
Interesting tweet from Russkiy embassy in New Zealand.
https://x.com/rusembnz/status/1899962670427889997?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1899962670427889997%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=
Looks like Ukrainian troops in Russia are mercenaries and not protected by the laws of war.
Presumably Russkiy troops in Ukraine are fine upstanding soldiers of the Rodina…
The sad thing is, JK, you could actually have a fair point if you didn’t use the crude rhetorical technique of putting words for the side you’re against into “foreign” while retaining English forms for the side you favour – a practice that makes you sound like a Tommy Robinson fanboy, which very probably you aren’t.
One question is what foreign mercenaries, if any, are present in the Kursk region.
Perhaps Georgian mercenaries doing job for Ukraine? The city of Sudzha is reported to be taken back under Russian control. People post photos, there is a sign on the square saying ‘Russians, learn how to fight’.
Actually, it’s a paraphrasing of the similar sign, left by Russians in Georgia in 2008.
Not to forget the Saakashvili then Georgian president, who later came to Ukraine and became a governor. He is famous for chewing his necktie right on TV in 2008. And also known by his funny quarrel with Avakov in Ukrainian parliament meeting – those two were fighting over who of them is more Ukrainian 🙂 A Georgian and an Armenian, scolding each other in pure Russian language 🙂
At least Avakov is actually from the Ukraine, unlike Saakashvili. 🙂
Both Ukraine and Georgia have parachuted figures from abroad (who aren’t exiles like Khomeini) into high political positions.
Ukraine – Natalie Jaresko from USA, Saakashvili from Georgia.
Georgia – Yakobashvili and Kezerashvili from Israel.
In Britain quite a few leading politicians are proud to have big smears of “USA” all over their CVs.
But in the future, perhaps the practice of recruiting figures directly from abroad, who aren’t even compradores but who have the right political and business connections, might spread.
Avakov was born in Baku, Azerbaijan. His father is Armenian and his mother is Ossetian.
I found that quarrel funny, because I’m Russian. Look, all of them were born in USSR, it was one country, sort of EU. I mean, one currency and no borders in between 15 or so national republics.
No Armenian was forced to live in Armenia only, nor a Georgian was demanded to live in Georgia.
Now, when we all drew borders, people pretend to exclusively belong to a certain newly independent state and fiercly argue that they are Ukrainians. Yet they don’t use Ukrainian mova, but prefer their native Russian language.
Amazing farce.
“One question is what foreign mercenaries, if any, are present in the Kursk region.”
Well there seem to be plenty of people who think that there are lots of North Koreans on the basis of no evidence whatsoever apart from assertions by the usual suspects. On the other side there are videos circulating on the ‘net of soldiers fighting for the Ukranian army that are from countries other than Ukraine, some even displaying symbols that were used by a political party in 1930s Germany that most definitely has no followers in Ukraine today.
Bayard
You don’t believe that there are DPRK troops fighting for Putin?
Perhaps you also doubt that the Islamic Republic of Iran is supplying drones etc to Russia?
“You don’t believe that there are DPRK troops fighting for Putin?”
Why should I believe it? I’ve not seen any evidence that they are. Unlike you appear to, I don’t automatically believe everything the government tells me.
“Perhaps you also doubt that the Islamic Republic of Iran is supplying drones etc to Russia?”
Why should I doubt it? There is plenty of evidence outside the organs of government that they are. The truth does not automatically become a lie when it comes from the mouth of a liar.
JK Redux
You don’t believe that NATO forces have been actively engaged in support of Ukraine?
You don’t believe that Ukraine has been using weapons supplied by USA, UK , EUI and all the rest?
What is the point of your questions?
JK redux
we never had any independent sourced evidence on NK troops.
When I looked – just for the sake of it, because – I am sorry – any sane person discarded the idea of NK troops in Ukraine at once – I always ended up at the same point: Zelensky giving an interview to a South Korean (!) TV reporter team.
With all due respect but that is not serious evidence.
And than you might recall that really embarrassing Daily Mail “mistake” with the photoshopped picture which was “accidentally” used and which showed two female soldiers described as NK – to take it off the site 24 hours later because it had turned out this had been an original picture with two non-Asian females.
“Daily Mail Apologizes After Publishing Photoshopped Image of ‘North Korean Women’ Fighting in Ukraine”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/international-relations/daily-mail-apologizes-after-publishing-photoshopped-image-of-north-korean-women-fighting-in-ukraine/ar-AA1vikEG
So much about truth and the total lack of racist thinking in our enlightened Europe.
Because naturally if we see slit-eyed individuals those are
1) Asians nationales
2) if they are not fighting for our side they are evil and by design NK. That there are plenty of various ethnic groups in Russia (200?) who see themselves as Russian is news to our news.
p.s. of course MSN wouldn´t be MSN if they did not make the original, revealing picture as small as they could compared to the fake one 😉
Slit-eyed or not, who cares?
https://youtube.com/shorts/6lkrYs-Bazw?si=1fUPBPfB4ABx9DY4
They all are precious human lives ( especially young and handsome 😍 )
Brian Red
A prolific poster on this forum used the word hohol to refer to Ukrainians a few days ago.
The term Russkiy is mild in comparison.
No?
The Russians have been uncovering lots of atrocities in the occupied parts of the Kursk oblast.
Squeeth
Kind of like the Katyn massacre == socialist reeducation of the Polish intelligentsia…
No reason to doubt the truthfulness of the Soviet/Russkiy military…
It ‘s no good trying to convince Squeeth. Convince Putin: “Encircled Ukrainian troops who committed crimes against civilians cannot go free”. We will see what intercessions Ukraine and any other troop supplying countries will make on their behalf. I doubt they will amount to much.
JK Redux
No idea what anyone has done to anyone else.
What I do know is that this War and we could have endless ‘ debates’ about
who did what to whom in a War and who’s fault it was etc etc.
It is a fact that the Russians were not very polite to the Nazis when they captured them
and vice-versa the Germans early on.
Russia has and is winning so, usually the winner writes the history.
Unless the losers and their supporters spend the rest of their lives pretending
they didn’t lose?
This War and why you should never cheer Wars on – from either side.
But I do note that the loudest shouters for War are those who will never be asked
to become involved in one.
JKR, of course, those nice Ukranians wouldn’t do anything nasty,like, for instance,locking people into a building and then setting it on fire, so these “atrocities” must be made up.
Gotta wonder whether Zionists have played a role in the publicity surrounding the conviction of UN judge Lydia Mugambe in Oxford crown court, and perhaps not only in the publicity but also in the decision to prosecute:
https://www.irmct.org/en/about/judges/judge-lydia-mugambe
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/lydia-mugambe-un-judge-slavery-b2714575.html
The press are playing up Mugambe’s role as a UN judge, but to judge from her CV her main profile seems to have been not at the UN but in the Ugandan judiciary. Nonetheless you still get headlines saying this slaving crime was committed by a UN judge. That’s bad for the public relations of the UN judiciary. Who’s it good for?
International figures whether diplomatic or in international treaty organisations or NGOs etc. commit a large number of slavery crimes. Few get exposed. When one does get exposed, there have got to be special reasons.
(Former?) Ugandan deputy high commissioner John Leonard Mugerwa seems to be in the frame too, so it’s all happening and one can only hope Private Eye don’t make a joke about it, because slavery isn’t funny.
If she’s guilty, I hope Mugambe gets a long prison sentence.
Mugambe doesn’t seem to have worked with the ICJ, but interestingly the Ugandan judge there, Julia Sebutinde, is clearly in Israel’s pocket. Has the Ugandan judiciary and political class been divided on the issue of the genocide? Are the Zionists with their little British helpers effecting a bit of a shake-up?
Oxford University and Pembroke College politics will also have been involved. FWIW, the master of Pembroke College is Chris Smith, who was once the culture secretary under Blair. From an early stage, university and college movers and shakers in Oxford will have been kept informed about this case so that they could consider the implications for their brands.
I would add to your Moral Balance scales the suppression of Scotland’s democratic will.
Two interesting articles for consideration about the sham split between the US and Europe and the lie that the US is for Peace.
Not only in Ukraine but,anywhere.
The second article is EU NATO current spending on the Military V Russian current spending on its Miltary.
Brian Berletic analysis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLg9iFg7icA
Russian spending EU NATO V Russia : https://www.socialistaction.net/2025/03/11/rearmament-is-not-a-response-to-a-threat-it-creates-one/
Although Brian is correct in my opinion, he has forgotten the arms used up and required for further attacks on Palestine and possibly on Iran by Israel and the US.
Possibly another reason why the EU’s orders from the US are to take up the military burden whilst the US attacks ( directly and indirectly) away from the European Theatre.
Work subbed out as they say.
Both are well illustrated examples of how Ultra Imperialist America works and will continue to work in the future.
And that Europe is just as much a proxy as Ukraine is.
>60% of EU NATO countries’ weapons spending is on weapons from the USA.
For Britain the figure is close to 90%.
Logic suggests that Uncle Sam bungs are available for EU and British figures who scream most influentially for “rearmament”.
Which is not to say I buy into the notion of ultra-imperialism.
“Rearmament” is a propaganda term because a) it implies there was no armament before, and b) it connotes past bouts of rearmament or increased military expenditure that actually happened, and which therefore in the mind of the sheeple must have been inevitable and right.
Thanks for the text link.
One big issue with EU rearmament is however that money and size of budgets spent mean nothing in themselves – money cannot buy military expertise, either with building machines or on the staff and command level.
Europe has no resources and they have no knowledge base that would outperform their current mediocre skills.
(Besides: Why should Russia sell the European gas and oil knowing that it will be used to build a hostile army?)
But beyond that:
NATO tanks, AD, planes, missiles all failed in Ukraine in ways nobody expected, I assume not even the Russians.
One reason of course, they were never tested before against peer enemies or those who are even superior.
Same is true for tactics and strategy. US personnel and training staff know about these deficiencies but they have major difficulties in finding solutions and implementing them.
see e.g. Dexter Filkins in the NEW YORKER:
“The U.S. Military’s Recruiting Crisis
The ranks of the American armed forces are depleted. Is the problem the military or the country?”
3/2/25
https://archive.is/A7RIn
or
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/02/10/the-us-militarys-recruiting-crisis
Long story short, NATO lags behind 30 years. And what is true for NATO is even more relevant for Europe.
I assume as soon as to-be-chancellor Merz and Co. will realize what blogs have been warning of for months and years they will silently shelf any serious war-making plans (if they haven´t already. I could never take their threats against Russia seriously. When Merz had to decide over TAURUS deployment he voted against it. And the closer the moment came to send tanks the smaller the number became and the less countries eventually participated.)
Yet In essence this won´t change any of the destructive policies. The population will still be lied to, will still be pushed into jingoism and its wealth extorted which will be redistributed to the benefit of the ruling classes.
In the end there will be no serious European fighting force. Only money burned and riches stolen and destroyed civil societies, with culture, education, public transport, social security and medical services in shambles – surrounded by tanks that can´t shoot, planes that won´t fly, missiles that won´t hit – and a youth that does not want to go to war.
You do not just spend 500B and then have an army.
You need decades to develop that infrastructure of R&D. You need a huge industrial base which the EU never really had because the EU initially was intended as a peace project. So no surprise there. Same goes for command and training of an army.
Just to illustrate my point on US/NATO´s inadequate military equipment see for instance:
D.C.-based, former secret intelligence, serving several tours in Afghanistan, Lee Slusher, a few months ago:
“The State of Western Warcraft”
https://deepdivewithleeslusher.substack.com/p/the-state-of-western-warcraft
Former Royal Navy, Steve Jermy
“Right now NATO could not win a war with Russia”
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/nato-war-with-russia/
On the catastrophe of the F-35, William Shryver Blog
„The Weakling Wunderwaffe“
https://imetatronink.substack.com/p/the-weakling-wunderwaffe
Western tank weak armor, Stephen Bryen, member of Reagan Admin.:
“NATO’S WAR PROBLEM: WEAK ARMOR”
https://weapons.substack.com/p/natos-war-problem-weak-armor
And this is just the tip of it all.
The CAA are calling for the suspension of the licence fee, and took out full page ads in last Sunday’s Times, Telegraph and Mail to that effect. This of course in relation to the BBC documentary. Here’s the headline and a few clips:
”
CAA takes out full-page ads in Sunday Times, Sunday Telegraph and Mail on Sunday calling for suspension of the licence fee
This weekend, we launched a full-page advertisement campaign in the Sunday newspapers calling for the suspension of the TV licence fee, pending an independent investigation into the BBC in relation to the Gaza film scandal and wider issues of bias against the Jewish state in its coverage.
The striking ads, which appeared in The Sunday Times, The Sunday Telegraph and The Mail on Sunday thanks to the support of a generous donor, observed that a majority of the British public supports the launch of an independent investigation, according to polling commissioned by Campaign Against Antisemitism and conducted by YouGov, more on which below.
It is unconscionable to force people to pay a licence fee that for years has funded biased reporting and has now been handed to the family of a Hamas terrorist. The licence fee must be suspended pending an independent investigation.
Everyone has had enough of BBC bias and handing licence fee money to a Hamas terrorist’s family has to be the final straw [£790 apparently, or so I read in a Telegraph article yesterday].
[ … ]
Earlier in the week, the Culture, Media and Sport Committee heard from Dr Samir Shah, Chair of the BBC, and the Director-General of the BBC, Tim Davie.
The hearing came as the BBC is engulfed in scandal following its publication of the so-called documentary, ‘Gaza: How to Survive a Warzone’.
[ … ]
For the second time in as many weeks, last Thursday evening we protested again outside Broadcasting House.
The hundreds in attendance heard from our Chief Executive, Gideon Falter; broadcaster and comedian Josh Howie; actress and columnist Dame Maureen Lipman; Nova music festival survivor Natalie Sanandaji; and Mark Birbeck, founder of Our Fight UK.
Last week, our protest demanded that the BBC stops whitewashing terrorism. This week, we gathered to tell the BBC: “We refuse to fund terrorists with our licence fee!”
Gideon Falter told the crowd: “A national treasure has become a national embarrassment.”
Josh Howie, who at last week’s protest announced on stage that he will no longer pay the BBC licence fee, told demonstrators this week: “We have no choice. We are all compelled to be here—compelled by decades of racism, compelled by the distortions, the omissions and the outright lies—all in service of creating a warped biased hateful narrative that has been directed at our community by the BBC. And just as much, we are also compelled to be here by the decades of inaction, dismissal and denial by the BBC of that racism.”
Dame Maureen Lipman asked: “Where is the balance? As always, all I ask for is a level playing field.”
”
And so it goes on, just piles of nazi-type shit from people who fully back genocide and the mass murder and maiming of hundreds of thousands of women and children and todlers and babies and pregnant women and the sick and the elderly and journalists and doctors and nurses and non-combatant men. I detest them all with every fibre of my being, and needless to say, they ALL have exactly the same supremicist mindset as the Nazis, and just like the Nazis, every single one of them is totally evil.
https://antisemitism.org/campaign-against-antisemitism-takes-out-full-page-ads-in-sunday-times-sunday-telegraph-and-mail-on-sunday-calling-for-suspension-of-the-licence-fee/
And get this from their petition page:
“It is unconscionable that the British public should be forced to pay money to an institution that has apparently given money to the family of a senior Hamas terrorist, and whose biased broadcasting has become propaganda instead of journalism.”
Needless to say, being hard-core nazi-type propagandists, the CAA doesn’t elaborate and give any examples of this alledged bias and propaganda.
https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/suspendthelicencefee
And JVL reposted the following a couple of days ago:
US student organisers defiant against deportation threat
JVL Introduction
The arrest of Palestinian activist Mohammed Khalil by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is another repressive act in the White House campaign to crush protests against Israel’s war on Palestine, a step so alarming that Judge Jesse Furman, an observant Jew serving on the bench at a federal district court in Manhattan, has issued an order blocking Khalil’s deportation.
A group of international graduate student organizers studying at universities in the United States have written the defiant statement below, published by Mondoweiss with an editor’s note explaining that the authors have requested anonymity “due to the current targeting of Palestine activists on student visas (and now, it seems, green cards) for deportation.”
Their message is one we should all heed:
We have taken on the role of witness, and we now carry a responsibility to act. This is true for millions of people all over the world, who, through Palestine, have witnessed the real face of the US empire.
NWI
We are international students organizing for Palestine, and we won’t be deterred
They can deport every last one of us, but they cannot erase the spirit of Palestinian resistance. That is what they fear.
by Anonymous contributor, Mondoweiss
We are international students who have organized in solidarity with the Palestine liberation struggle over the past 16 months. We write anonymously because the moment demands, strategically, that we do so. However, we will not be silenced. You may censure and suspend us, you may send ICE to knock down our doors, you may deport us back to our home countries, but we are only one drop in a vast ocean, and the tide of support for Palestine is rising everywhere….
https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/us-student-organisers-defiant-against-deportation-threat/
My apologies
Will do my best to try and comply from now on
The main purpose of this campaign is to ‘privatise’ the assets of the BBC and earn direct advertising revenues. Don’t be fooled by the pantomime and the Usual Suspects pushing the Constant Narrative of The Collective Waste.
I cancelled my poll tax some 6 years ago – mostly due to its heavily pro ziofascist daily agenda on its ‘news’ and ‘entertainment’ propaganda sewer.
The incessant attacks on the then elected by the membership leader of the largest political party in Europe and cancelling of multiple grass roots candidates for parliamentary seats is truly the CIA Gauntlet that owns and runs our journalism and political class.
The fealty demanded to the illegal apartheid entity in the Levant – daily – only became more draconian and overt as the fake war on terror 7 countries in 5 years escapade under the Bairite Ziofascist global robbery and mass murder of millions, failed to achieve all its goals. It does to this day with the survival of Iran and spreading discontent of West Asia and North Africa and of course the Great Game humiliation in the Black Sea and ukraine.
With more promised and certain with the unstoppable multipolar rising.
Of course I was forced to stop watching all the other channels too which are not funded directly by the licence poll tax.
There followed a cold turkey withdrawal pangs in the first days – which thoroughly exemplified the sordid and despicable nature of the inculcated addiction ingrained in every new born for decades in the U.K.
But after just 6 weeks the mental fug cleared!
The brain chemistry ‘renatured‘ – the daily propaganda became as obvious as the difference between night and day.
The shadows and shadow casters became obvious.
Across the gamut of media – radio broadcasters and much of the internet blogosphere, social media, advertising and the now ‘old media’ of cinema; much of it clearly dross – all with the same subtle and not so subtle promotion of ‘supermen and women’ supremacy! The might of weapons and liberal mentality a western ‘civilisation’ which promoted pornography and paedophelia in the music and video output too!
Sex and drugs and rock and roll! Football and gambling, the daily idiot tax lotteries.
Well that TV room has not been used for many years now; the gizmo itself long dismantled and gathering dust is no longer a drug dispenser I attached myself to with my nearest and dearest for several hours every single day for decades since childhood.
Now there a pile of letters arriving weekly as if by a demented stalker and blackmailer costing more in postage than their absurd demand that the poll tax to be propagandised to must be paid! Threats to extract thousands of £’s, of investigators and secret agents that will appear at my door …
It took just a few weeks to throw of the chains of that mental slavery.
I highly recommend it – especially as we get older and want to get ‘wiser’ and be able to call out the propaganda about support the innocents from the leeches and killers that is the collective waste declining and dying empire.
“Now there a pile of letters arriving weekly as if by a demented stalker and blackmailer costing more in postage than their absurd demand that the poll tax to be propagandised to must be paid! ”
I collected them for years, but gave up when I had an inch-thick pile of empty threats. I was rather hoping that some poor sod would have been despatched from London to the wilds of west Wales only to find that I really didn’t have a TV, but no-one ever turned up.
Allan Howard
All they have to do is square the circle of how Hamas can be ‘ Terrorists ‘ in their own land being as
the ones they are allegedly ‘ Terrorising ‘ don’t legally live in Gaza and are ‘ Occupiers?’
Hamas did not invade Israel on October the 7th – they invaded their own land through a Fence
which the occupiers built to keep the Occupied out of the Occupied Territory which they had occupied.
Unless there is a special Case of Occupier Terrorism which only applies to Israel and Israelis?
As usual with the Right Wing Media they don’t understand what happened previously in Israel and Gaza
even though some of their intrepid reporters wrote about it.
Truthfully or not.
Putin said some critical things about a possible ceasefire:
“How will the issues of control and verification be resolved? How can we be guaranteed that nothing like this will happen? How will the control be organized?”
–
“Who will give orders to stop hostilities? And what is the price of these orders? Can you imagine? Almost 2,000 kilometers. Who will determine where and who broke the potential ceasefire? Who will be blamed?”
https://swentr.site/russia/614170-putin-ukraine-conflict-us/
Exactly how is the surveillance going to be managed and by who? There need to be third-party, non-partisan teams that monitor such ceasefire. Is that even possible? I cannot see Russia approving monitors from the EU due to their bias and also risk for obvious spying against Russia.
Just the other day it was reported how OSCE most likely shared intel with ukrainian army:
OSCE shared intel with Ukraine before 2022 – ex-Greek ambassador
“Former envoy to Kiev Vasilios Bornovas claims to have witnessed the Ukrainian army hitting DPR and LPR positions revealed by the observers”
https://swentr.site/news/613592-ex-greek-ambassador-osce-helped-ukraine/
Trump said after the talks in Jeddah something about the ball in Russia’s hands (sorry I don’t know this idiom). The meaning was the question if Russia will agree to a ceasefire.
We discussed this in another thread, and I expressed the opinion that we will probably agree, but I hope that we are ready for another betrayal.
I was thinking about what could be the best way out of this situation. And the phrase “I’m not in a hurry” came to my mind.
This is the culmination of the short film The Mathematician and the Devil, based on the story The Devil & Simon Flagg by Arthur Porges. It seems to me that this is exactly what came to Putin and Lavrov’s minds as well, after all, we belong to the same culture and the same mentality 🙂
Found it on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52yhBkkulXw
The film is in Russian, still you’ll understand what I mean.
Episode starts at 8:40, watch the devil writing down “3 squared + 4 squared = 5 squared” and the answer to be found in 24 hours 🙂
I imagine Trump writing down his Peace Plan like this “Look, guys, it’s simple! Ukraine agrees to a ceasefire + Russia agrees to a ceasefire = peace” in 24 hours 🙂
“Trump said after the talks in Jeddah something about the ball in Russia’s hands (sorry I don’t know this idiom).”
It’s “the ball is in Russia’s court”, and comes from tennis, where the ball the ball is for Russia to play.
Of course, Trump means that Russia should say simply yes or no. Yes means to accept the agreement without question, no is to be demonized as a warmonger. Of course Putin did not do either, as I would expect.
Thanks, Laguerre.
Also, from my experience, if someone offers me a very very very good deal that must be concluded quickly here and now and there is no time to think and the offer is final and the details are not discussed, then most likely this deal is profitable for the seller, but not for me.
Thank you CM for this timely and very apt article as we are slow boiled to folly of the ‘Never Again’ mass slaughter of our young men in pursuit of the age old dynastic ambitions of the Few.
When the crazed neonazis, always fascists, talk about driving Germany into building tanks and armaments to invade Russia – they mean invade not defend from – and Europe collectively zig hails that effort – then irony is dead.
The whirling noises from millions of war dead becomes masochistic tinnitus background music.
Yup the ziofascist natzos godfathers of war and bloodmoney want another rerun with their number one target in west Asia – Germany. It must be kept down.
The Russkies must be kept out, separated from that great synergy.
The Yankee poodles must be kept in! As the big liitle brother mongrel fighting dog of the old aristocrat bankers dynasties.
How? They have started by ‘deindustrialising’ and now accelerating with their grotesque headed technocrat Banker new leader, to drive the next stage of self destruction.
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Dumb is as dumb does. The Germans must be crazy if they actually go ahead with the plan of their further self destruction, again for the benefit of those City godfathers, mostly living their shapeshifter dynastic lives as French and Anglo aristos with their ancient lust to possess EurAsia.
Dungroanin
Volksies with tank turrets?
I bet the design department had a field day there?
The thing is Biden ( not Trump ) started the ‘ incentives’ for German Car manufacturers to move
across The Pond and set up in the US.
From a greedy capitalist’s point of view it makes sense.
No ( or not many Social Contributions to be made to the State and Society plus the added bonus of
US Minimum Wage costs of about $7.50 and hour.
Not unconvinced that Trumps and Europe’s weaponry to fight the Russian Hordes will mainly end up being
manufactured in the US anyway.
Europe appears to be exporting its industry to the US in the similar way the West exported industry to China.
All the US needs now is Communist Party and President T and they will be a rising power again.
Disappointing news today that Russia somehow forced Trump’s special envoy to Russia-Ukraine, Keith Kellogg,out from of the negotiating table, claiming he was too hawkish. I thought from what I have read past months that Kellogg’s was quite level-headed about the conflict – a Realist (referring to the international relations theory), I cannot see how a replacement would be any softer on Russia, most likely Kellogg views is likely grounded within the Trump team.
Russia should be vary of not demanding maximalist goals, if there is going to be a permanent peace there is going to be a compromise.
As my exchange with Tatyana above at 9.36, Trump is offering Russia a deal to which Russia is only allowed a yes or no answer, no negotiation. Not surprisingly Putin demands negotiation to arrive at an acceptable deal.
No need to worry, Jack. Kellogg was replaced by Special Envoy Witkoff and our news reported that yesterday he was in Moscow and his plane left today on the return trip with some messages from Putin to Trump.
As for the fact of the replacement, my opinion: after meeting with Zelensky in the Oval Office, Trump was convinced that it’s very important to choose the right people to build an effective process. It’s not about wearing a suit.
Btw, our bloggers and media seem to be as much concerned about clothes as the American ones then. Yesterday ours discussed all day long whether Putin’s appearance in the Kursk region dressed in camouflage was some kind of “signal”.
To be honest, I am so excited about this process, that the possibility of a diplomatic solution has appeared on the horizon, that I feel like a puppy on a walk outside for the first time 🙂 I really hope that adults and serious people will do their job well.
I wish them success and thank everyone who makes efforts in this direction.
On this 30-day ceasefire, Putin commented: “The idea of a truce is right in itself. We are for it. But there are nuances.”
Our media bloggers noticed a hint of a famous joke in the word nuances, and I dare say that if a Russian saw a hint of a joke, you are unlikely to stop him from telling this joke. I apologize in advance, cannot resist, I’ll tell you 🙂
For background, the word nuance landed in Russian in its French form and is perceived as a foreign loanword in the language. There are two characters in the joke, one of them is Chapaev, a brave warrior, hero of the first world war, straightforward and rude, but savvy. The second character is his loyal adjutant, young and trusting friend, Peter, whose name is used in the diminutive form Petka.
A million apologies from me again. I didn’t make up this joke myself, let’s pretend that I’m just a reporter and translator, a messenger, so to speak:
Petka asked Chapaev what a nuance is.
Chapaev replies: “I’ll show you if you take off your pants and bend over.”
Petka obeys and Chapaev sticks his dick in Petka’s ass.
Here Chapaev explains: “Look at the situation we’re in. The dick is in the ass. You feel it, that the dick is in the ass. I feel it, too, that the dick is in the ass. But there is a nuance.”
—
We were taught in English lessons that “excuse me” is said when you are about to do something, and the word “sorry” is said when you have already done it. So, now I’m sorry
.
I honestly think that Putin used the word nuance without any ulterior motive, but if he did hint at this joke, it’s extremely ironic considering that our troops are advancing in Ukraine, and the Ukrainian ones in the Kursk region are isolated and being destroyed.
Tatyana
Amusing joke.
Do you believe that the hundreds of thousands of young Russian men who were sent into Ukraine by your President – and died there – died for a cause worth their lives?
Thanks for asking this question, John.
My personal belief is that conflicts should be resolved through negotiation. Humans as a species are intelligent, so compromise is possible.
I’m also convinced that all people on the planet have their own beliefs and freedom of choice.
I, sitting in relative safety, am simply not in a position to impose my humanistic abstract and philosophical opinion on those who have decided to go there. It would be great if such an understanding of their own role was also present in those who inspire people to continue the war.
Would have saved lives, possibly hundreds of thousands of lives.
Tatyana
I understand that my question may be difficult (or unwise) for a Russian citizen to answer:
“Do you believe that the hundreds of thousands of young Russian men who were sent into Ukraine by your President – and died there – died for a cause worth their lives?”
but if you can safely answer I would be very interested in your reply.
Please ignore this question otherwise.
Quite clever now, John, congratulations, you are making noticeable progress. Sincerely.
With the same sincere motives, let me please point out the error in your system of axioms,, which seems obvious to me, and looks like not obvious to yourself.
The fact that I am Russian does not necessarily mean that I belong to the bloodthirsty, and vengeful orcs. It will be easier for you to understand what I mean if you allow for a moment the thought that I am human.
Tatyana
As you choose to answer, why not simply say “No”?
Or indeed “Yes” if that is your preference.
To avoid an answer is understandable but not the most honourable choice. In my opinion.
After all, millions of German women hoped that their husbands, sons and brothers would return safe from Unternehmen Barbarossa. But very very few spoke out against it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie_Scholl
John, you are deliberately overcomplicating your questions by cramming them full of theses. Then you demand that I answer yes or no, so that I will agree or reject all the theses that you have loaded into your question.
I just don’t play such games.
As for your false axioms, I’ll explain in simple terms:
there is a “match” going on where you cheer for the “reds” and you believe that I cheer for the “blues”. This premise is false. I believe that this kind of “game” is cruel and such “competitions” should never be held at all, and I applaud the decision of the jury to stop the game.
If you understand my analogy, then just answer yes.
If you don’t, then I can’t help you any further.
I see that JK Redux is deliberately baiting / trolling Tatyana with a Yes / No question equivalent to “Are you still beating your wife?”
For one thing, JK Redux should show, with evidence or a link to such evidence, and not merely quote third-hand Ukrainian or Western media sources (themselves often quoting Ukrainian sources, because most Western media have partnered with Ukrainian media – and Zelensky’s government has heavily restricted freedom of the press in Ukraine), that “hundreds of thousands” of Russian soldiers sent into Ukraine, presumably against their will (and JK Redux will also have to demonstrate that has indeed happened), have died in the fighting.
To her credit, Tatyana has refused to answer this question the way JK Redux expects, but the fact that the question itself appears on this comments forum does not do JK Redux much credit at all.
Thank you, Jen.
Also please note that I gave an explanation, but he does NOT return to this thread. However, he repeats his question in the same unchanged form below
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2025/03/the-moral-balance/comment-page-2/#comment-1077403
I too see this as blatant trolling, which is toxic and pollutes the discussion. I’d like to ask the moderators, if a person has already received an answer to their question, how many more times is it allowed to be asked over and over again?
Tatyana : “… if a person has already received an answer to their question, how many more times is it allowed to be asked over and over again? “
If someone keeps doing this, answer as the former UK Prime Minister did, saying, “May I refer the lady/gentleman/questioner to my previous answer to the same question.”
They’ll soon get tired of it, while making it absolutely clear to everyone else that all they are doing is trying to badger you.
thank you, Glenn_nl
Wow, what a thoughtful and verbose construction! If only I was paid as much as the Prime Minister 🙂
Well, I know at least two other methods, which maybe are not so polite, but they are free and effortless.
JK redux, if the EU/US didn’t facilitate regime change in Ukraine, none of this would have happened. On the other hand was it wise by the UK/US/France to destroy Libya, arm the JIhadists in Syria (the new ‘president’ is an ex IS leader, committing genocide, yet the UK and other US vassals are fawning over him)? Syria was a tolerant middle income country on the middle east, btw.
Because of these, you have no right to complain about migration to the UK or Europe.
Schmidt
You must be thinking of someone else.
When did I “complain about migration to the UK or Europe.”?
Btwt the Anglo French attack on Libya was a folly that led to disaster.
Syria imo is not as straightforward; Assad is a shit who murdered many of his people, the new ruler may be better though the Alawite killings suggest otherwise.
Of course Russia wants its air and naval base back….
“Do you believe that the hundreds of thousands of young Russian men who were sent into Ukraine by your President – and died there…..”
Conveniently ignoring two facts, one that a large number were from Donetsk and Luhansk and therefore were already in what had been Ukraine and two that the vast majority of these young men were volunteers, i.e. they were there by choice. Also the figure of “hundreds of thousands” is, of course, simply made up.
As to whether those Russian soldiers that have died, died in a cause worth dying for, presumably they thought so, or they wouldn’t be fighting. After all, they weren’t bundled into minibuses off the street and sent to the front with minimal training, they volunteered.
Unlike VSU, Russian fighting force is entirely volunteer. So if they decided it was not worth their lives, they would not go.
Imagine either Russia or China initiating a regime change in Mexico and inserting a government favorable to Russia or China, this was done in 2014 with the help of Victoria Nuland at the US state dept, she admitted spending $6 billion dollars through NGO’s to achieve this aim.
Then consider what would be the reaction of the US if Russia or China formed a military alliance with Mexico and placed missiles all along the Mexican border aimed at the US. This was done with the Cuban missile crisis. Of course the US would not allow this and would act in a far more belligerent way than the SMO conducted by Russia. The western warmongers would hypocritically say “we can do these things because we are stronger than you, and you are too weak to do anything about it” now the west have been disabused of that foolish notion, they cannot admit their failure and so must push further down the road of confrontation. The fools.
Yes US/EU conduct during “Maidan” was such a blatant violation of the diplomatic code. It is already 12 years since Maidan occured but it feels like yesterday, I remember multiple politicians from the EU, US mingling around the protesters like something normal. What if russian politicians or iranian politicians travelled to the US or any EU nation, mingling with pro-violent protesters calling on the democratically elected leader to step down? It would be considered almost an act of war!
And no regrets no apologizes always this arrogance by, especially, the EU.
Imagine if Russian politicians had mingled with the folks in the Capitol after the “invasion”. As with everything,it’s OK when “we” do it,it’snot OK when “they” do it.
I was just checking out an article on the Mail’s website regarding the BBC documentary about Gaza and spotted the following, posted three days ago:
Russia issues blunt warning to Australia over Ukraine
Russia has issued a blunt warning to Australia after Anthony Albanese announced he was considering joining the ‘coalition of the willing’ by sending peacekeeping troops to Ukraine. The Prime Minister spoke to UK leader Sir Keir Starmer on Saturday, where he said he would ‘consider contributing to a coalition of the willing for Ukraine’, according to a statement from Downing Street…
‘Once again, Western boots on the ground are unacceptable for Russia, and we will not remain passive observers,’ a statement from the Russian Embassy said. ‘To those inclined to construe the above as a threat: it is not. It is a warning.
‘Russia has no intention to harm Australians, and Canberra can easily avoid trouble by simply refraining from irresponsible adventurism in the zone of the Special Military Operation.’ The stern statement added said that the presence of military from NATO members and western countries within a likely peacekeeping zone in eastern Ukraine was ‘totally unacceptable’.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/galleries/article-14486295/Russia-issues-blunt-warning-Australia-Ukraine.html?dicbo=v2-qB9Cfkp
I imagine that the Aussies initial response to that would be unprintable.
Would that be because it would come under the definition of “misinformation” ? I suppose it depends on which Aussies you are thinking of.
If Pears Morgaine had been thinking of Aussies like me, the initial response would be long strings of asterisks separating the letter “f” and “hell”.
Allan Howard
How on earth could Russia, a country of (?) 120 million harm Australia?
Using nukes would lead to the destruction of Russia.
Otherwise a land invasion of Australia by the greatly depleted Russian Army is self-evidently absurd.
The Russian Navy could I suppose make a nuisance of itself but it would be a long way from home.
Perhaps the sole Russian aircraft carrier the Admiral Kuznetsov could steam up and down off the Australian E coast emitting toxic diesel smoke?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_aircraft_carrier_Admiral_Kuznetsov
Which leaves… ?
JK, Perhaps I’ve got it wrong, but you appear to be making assumptions – or AN assumption – about my reason for posting the DM article. The sole reason I posted it was just to bring it to peoples’ attention. Full stop.
Allan Howard
I’m just responding to the piece that you presented from the Daily Mail.
You presented it without comment.
I prepended your name to make it clear that I’m responding to your post.
The phrase “Russia issues blunt warning to Australia over Ukraine” is noteworthy and it is to that that my post is directed.
JK Redux
No – Australia is along way away from Europe so it would be a long walk (sail ) for The Russian Hordes to
go for little reward.
It is interesting that we keep coming back to the:
If they try that – they will be Nuked Scenario.
If you think the US will sacrifice its people for Australian people then you are seriously mistaken.
The US is not prepared to do this over Ukraine or Europe in general for that matter so, what exactly
would make Australia special?
Trump with his current Foreign Policy has said the US isn’t prepared to sacrifice itself for any country.
Maybe not even Israel.
Maybe not even for itself?
Mark Cutts
The rational if bleak logic of the “current Foreign Policy” of the USA is that any country that can will develop and deploy nuclear weapons for their protection as the USA won’t protect them.
Germany, Japan, S Korea and Taiwan have the industrial capacity.
Britain could develop a truly independent (of the USA) nuclear deterrent.
Poland probably could. Ukraine would be a partner.
Turkey certainly could.
A far more dangerous world is in prospect.
“A far more dangerous world is in prospect.”
A far less dangerous world is in prospect: The biggest attacker of other countries in the world since WWII is the US but the number of nuclear armed countries it has attacked is zero. The first step to a less dangerous world would be to stop the US attacking other countries. This can be achieved by having more of those other countries armed with nuclear weapons.
Bayard
I think we agree that possessing nukes is a deterrent to conventional attack. For example, if Ukraine had kept the nukes it had when the USSR broke up then Russia wouldn’t have dared to invade.
Unfortunately there is the risk that a narcissist like Trump might decide that if he is going to die then why not take the world with him.
“For example, if Ukraine had kept the nukes it had when the USSR broke up then Russia wouldn’t have dared to invade.”
and if those nukes had been in Donetsk and Luhansk, the US backed regime in Kiev wouldn’t have dared to attack them and there would have been no need for Russia to invade.
JK Redux
Of course – It’s Free World.
Except it isn’t.
We come back yet again as to just exactly who is in charge of The Western World?
The US has bases in Europe and Australia ( the Australians got the gig to build a fleet of subs – sinking ( if you pardon the Pun ) the French bid.
So in order to get to some truths – why does Europe not have any bases in the US?
Just to help out say against the naughty Chinese and others?
It’s a bit like the Nordstream Pipeline sabotage.
All the Germans had to do was to promise to turn the valves off.
But the US didn’t trust them to stick to doing that.
To make sure they couldn’t ( even if they wanted to) turn the line back on, they and others blew it up just to make sure they obeyed orders.
We are looking at trust here and similarly the US doesn’t trust any country about anything – THEY have to be in charge.
With the exception of France’s Force de Frappe no other Western country can dream of building and particularly aiming and firing ‘ Independent ‘ Nukes.
They will not allow it.
That is why they are the Leaders of the West – not the followers – they are extremely powerful and dangerous no matter who is in charge.
As an aside, in the negotiations Zelensky’s biggest error ( and it was proven in his spat with Vance and Trump in The Whitehouse) was that the European leaders seemed to convince him that the Europeans
are an equal power to the US.
The reaction to that suggestion was seen across the world.
I’m pretty sure the French would not be prepared to die for Ukraine either but if they actually tried they would soon find out who runs the show – for sure.
“How on earth could Russia, a country of (?) 120 million harm Australia?”
As usual, the answer to your question is in the comment which you are replying to and didn’t read properly.
Bayard
Do tell.
No you can damn well do your own homework for a change.
If you had read Alan Howard’s comment properly and the Daily Mirror link, you would have seen that the idiot we have for a Prime Minister is offering to send Australian soldiers into Ukraine.
These are Australian soldiers who might be needed later on for a future invasion of China – in the remote chance (though perhaps not so remote to you) that China invades Taiwan – and the US requires third party proxy cannon fodder as forward shock troops in that invasion. Or possibly to help defend Australia in case the Trump administration decides that Canada and Greenland being the 51st and 52nd states of the US still doesn’t deliver enough rare earth minerals to help feed the future revitalisation of US industry and adding a 53rd state is necessary.
By the way , Putin was never leader of the KGB .He left the KGB as a lieutenant colonel
and this low rank did not become an obstacle for electing him as head of state.
He seems to really kbow how to do things, especially negotiation. Today in our news they say Trump posted something in his social media Truth (Those who lived in the USSR and remember the newspaper Pravda are smiling here). Trump asked to release Ukrainian troops blocked in Kursk region.
Putin dealt with the request just brilliantly. According to the law and also in humanistic way. That is why he is seen as a good president.
Tomorrow Latvia will celebrate their so called “Remembrance Day of the Latvian Legionnaires”, these nationalist “legionaries” often fought with the German Waffen SS nazis against the Russians and not only that, they fought anyone, including large segment of jews and the mentally ill and it was not so much that they were forced against their own will to kill innocent minorities because they had the same racist-mentality as Nazi Germany.
One of the more pathological of collaborators, the so called “Arajs commando” without a doubt committed genocide:
In 1941 alone, the Arajs commando is estimated to have killed 30,000 Jews, practically destroying the Jewish community in Latvia. It also took part in burning villages and their inhabitants in Latvia and Belarus suspected of collaborating with the Red Army.
https://www.rferl.org/a/1093519.html
Latvians Honour Waffen-SS Veterans: March on Latvian Legion Day Honours Soldiers for Nazi Germany
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d19FpXgkt1g
One has to question, if these marches, sentiment in Latvia (Estonia, Lithuania, Ukraine) is considered legitimate and ok why then should not german nazis in Germany be free to march in the streets of Berlin, commemorating German nazis that fought the Russians and the Jews? The question is rhetorical of course – but what is really the difference here?
Jack
Perhaps some Latvians made the tragic error of believing that “my enemy’s enemy is my friend”.
In fact, of course, “my enemy’s enemy is my enemy’s enemy”.
To the Latvians who lived through Soviet and Nazi occupation during WW2, it was difficult to figure out who the “good guys” were.
Spoiler: the Soviets and the Nazis were both “bad guys”.
And of course the attempted extirpation by the Nazis of the Jewish and Roma people was a crime against humanity.
While Stalin’s murders of his perceived enemies almost allowed Hitler to win the war.
“grandfathers joined evil and did evil for great purpose” – their grandchildren say 80 years later. Those grandchildren who themselves did not see Nazism or Communism.
I qualify this as a standard story for a bastard child: “your father was a pilot and died tragically in a secret mission, that’s why he has no gravestone”.
Occam’s razor, another great Idea.
Tatyana
A bit vague, though nicely phrased.
So do you believe that the young Russian soldiers who died in Putin’s war died for a cause worth their lives?
JK Redux
“Perhaps some Latvians made the tragic error of believing that “my enemy’s enemy is my friend”.
Begin to read my post and then the links, Latvians were not duped, they fought for the same racist ideas that Nazi Germany represented. No one forced them too kill ethnic minorities.
Jack
Latvians were unwilling “ethnic minorities” in the USSR.
And hundreds of thousands (millions?) of “ethnic” Russians were settled in the occupied Baltic Republics by Stalin.
You “forget” that the fascist anti-slavic, anti-semtic views in Latvia pre-dates the Soviet/communist era.
Meanwhile, a bit of karma for our nazi friends.
“According to the information of the underground network, there are about 30 NATO career officers, who were engaged in commanding troops on the ground as well as handling incoming intelligence data from NATO satellites and adjusting strikes deep into Russian territory, are surrounded in the Kursk Region”
https://sputnikglobe.com/20250316/some-30-officers-from-nato-countries-surrounded-in-kursk-region-1121643590.html
Stevie Boy
Sputnik?
Copium….
This has become a standard propaganda meme, like babies on bayonets. Whatever happened to the 15 NATO officers captured in Aleppo or the ones captured in Mariupol (which included a senior American Lt General who, it turned out, was in Turkey at the time). We heard nothing more about them although had they been real their capture would’ve been a major propaganda tool and bargaining chip for Russia. Likewise the numerous senior NATO personnel said to have been killed in various missile/drone strikes across Ukraine; all fantasy.
I suppose as long as there are people still prepared to believe it they’ll keep re-cycling it.
You would expect tankies to be in better mood as they tell us that Russian fortunes on the battlefield are improving.
Strangely, not so.
Let’s try to be nice to them.
“I suppose as long as there are people still prepared to believe it they’ll keep re-cycling it.”
It’s funny how the lack of evidence for the captured NATO officers leads you to doubt that they ever existed, whereas you continue to believe in other fairy stories like the presence of North Korean troops in Ukraine despite there being a similar lack of evidence.
The stupidity of the EU is really something, why do they put forward such nonsense as sending 10k-30k soldiers to Ukraine when Russia have already rejected such “solution”? Why do the EU keep bringing forward these unrealistic ideas all the time knowing full well it is not going to be implemented? They have no say to begin with, they do not have the cards, they have no “card”!.
And if west is going to carry on with placing soldiers in Ukraine after a peace deal – signaling that they will reject Russia’s stance, well obviously Russia will then in response escalate on their part and push on even more towards the west of Ukraine, taking more land making sure there will never be a ceasefire and/or just when they want.
For an alleged “peace union” EU sure know horribly little about creating real, permanent peace and that is through diplomatic means.
Jack
Why do Russia put forward such nonsense as sending (keeping) 100-200 thousand Russkiy troops in 4 Eastern oblasts of Ukraine.
Their stupidity (and cruelty) is really something.
Again Mod, why allow these obvious slurs (Russkiy)?
Jack. Apparently, in the cause of balance it’s necessary to also publish the views of alternative communities. Free Speech and all that.
However, no-one has to engage with them. As my Gran used to say: “don’t argue with crazy people, you’ll never win or change their views”
Stevie Boy
You guys are on a roll.
Trump supports Putin.
Putin is pushing the meat grinder forwards.
All working to the 3 year Plan.
(But wasn’t it supposed to be a 3 day Plan?)
Anyway all good so just chill and enjoy the good feelz.
“Again Mod, why allow these obvious slurs (Russkiy)?”
It does help to prevent the unwary taking any of this sort of rubbish seriously.
JKR, the champion of the non-sequiteur.
One could add to my initial comment, exactly what is that the EU trying to achive? After 3 years Ukraine is pretty much stuck, all billions of aid whether for the army or civlian – up in smoke just like that, this massive aid did not lead to anything. So what is the alleged secret weapon that EU have? They paint these successul fanatasy goals (“Russia being driven out of Ukraine, full stop, then there will be peace!”)- but there is no plan for it, EU are totally unrealistic and perhaps most importantly, they do not regard what a Russian response would look like if EU plan to escalate. Russia have more arms, more ammo, more soldiers and even nuclear weapons. In what scenario would the russians simply go home admitting defeat? It will not happen, why is this so hard for the EU to understand? Are they so deep in their own groupthink and their own propaganda that they have totally lost it?
Most European (EU & UK) politicians are truly imbeciles; by the ‘Peter Principle’ they have all risen to the level of their utter incompetence. Also, too many of the ‘leaders’ are diversity hires, hired because of what they are rather than what they know.
Maybe the europeans still think the U.S Cavalry are going to come riding over the hill to save their cowardly butts. But, Trump ain’t gonna help these retards.
The war in Ukraine was lost on the day Putin finally lost his patience and stepped in to rescue democracy and eject the Nazis. The clean up operation has taken a time but the end is in sight.
The Europeans have painted themselves into a corner, it’s going to be fun watching them fail and trying to recover their reputations.
One also wonders what will happen to all the journalists/politicians who have lied, deceived that Ukraine was about to win 24/7 to their populations and how these politicians have taken the taxpayers money and recklessly spent them on a terrible corrupt nation and on a war that was doomed to fail. They will look really stupid after this war is over and one can wonder what the West will look like after this war because these politicians/journalists will hardly be popular after this war is over, that is for sure.
That is probably why low-approval-rate-leaders like Macron, Starmer, (and also Scholz up untl the election) have been the the most eager to prolong the war.
Jack
Just enjoy the victory of the working class over the pampered bourgeoisie….
(That is what is happening in Kursk and Ukraine after all.)
If Ukraine loses this war now it won’t be because a lack of resolve on their part or the tactical superiority of Russia but because they’ve been stabbed in the back by the person who is supposed to be the leader of the free world.
PM, did you seriously think Ukraine could ever win a war against Russia? If so why did you not communicate your master plan for victory to Zelensky before it was too late? Or did you think they had to win because you wanted them to? Or were you just blinded by your own side’s propaganda?
If you really thought that Ukraine was on the point of rolling the Russians back to the pre-war borders and retaking Crimea into the bargain when dastardly Trump pulled the plug, then your cognitive abilities need serious attention.
” Putin finally lost his patience and stepped in to rescue democracy and eject the Nazis. ”
Is that an attempt at a joke? You think Putin cares about democracy in his own country let alone Ukraine and if he’s that bothered about Nazis he’d be clearing up his own backyard. As it is Russian neo-Nazis are his most ardent, and violent, supporters,
https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2022/opinion/russias-long-history-of-neo-nazis
Obviously Russia wants a Ukraine which is unaligned, weakened and unprotected against further invasion which no doubt will be instigated at some point in the future on some supposed pretext.
Pears Morgaine
I have to intervene with a bit of ‘Whataboutery ‘ I’m afraid.
‘ Obviously Russia wants a Ukraine which is unaligned, weakened and unprotected against further invasion which no doubt will be instigated at some point in the future on some supposed pretext. ‘
You had best ask your fellow Democrats in the US about invasion and threats against weaker and and unprotected nations.
I mean The Dear Old US of A has Canada – Panama – Ukraine ( indeed) – Gaza/Palestine – possibly Venezuela – the EU as a proxy NATO and many more too numerous to mention.
Whilst Putin hasn’t even got his Xmas list for Santa written out yet – never mind invading Europe at some mythical point in time.
But as I say, this is Democracy in action.
Just because Democracy threw up Trump doesn’t mean that democracy is past it’s sell by date surely?
It will eventually come up with more polite kinder leaders than Trump – surely?
p.s. The EU wants to skim off from Private Savings a huge amount of money for ‘ The War Effort ‘ for when Putin has sorted out what he wants for Xmas and may/may not take over Europe.
The figures to ‘ skim ‘ from – according to some, is around 10 Trillion ( yes Trillion) of EU people’s and corporations Pension savings with back up from The EU States ( public money) as a guarantee to the scheme.
Von Der Leyen and Lagard and the rest of these schemers are not elected by the people would consider themselves Democrats.
Except – they are not.
Trump has been elected – I don’t like it and neither do you but, that’s how Democracy works.
That also is how Imperialism works and they don’t come any bigger and better than US Imperialism.
” You think Putin cares about democracy in his own country let alone Ukraine”
Yes, I do. Just because you don’t doesn’t make it the truth. Your habit of regurgitating what is obvious propaganda doesn’t inspire much confidence in your opinions having much bearing on reality, either, nor does your habit of dismissing anything contrary to those opinions as lies., without a scrap of evidence apart from your own belief.
” You had best ask your fellow Democrats in the US about invasion and threats against weaker and and unprotected nations.
I mean The Dear Old US of A has Canada – Panama – Ukraine ( indeed) – Gaza/Palestine – possibly Venezuela ”
Greenland, you left out Greenland and Israel’s land grabs on the West Bank and in Syria. All of which I assume you rightly disapprove of yet support Putin’s hostile invasion of Ukraine…
” Just because Democracy threw up Trump doesn’t mean that democracy is past it’s sell by date surely? ”
No it doesn’t thank God. We can at least look forward to seeing the back of Trump in 3 years 10 months time if not before unlike another world leader who bullied through a change in his country’s constitution that’ll enable him to stay in power until 2036 (by which time he’ll be 82; the same age as Joe Biden. Just saying.).
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/10/normalising-russia/
Is it not a bit telling that Europe, home of some 740 million people, only managed to scrap up, at best, some 30k soldiers for the alleged “peace-keeping” mission? It should be millions of european volunteers considering the large support for Ukraine among regular people with their Ukraine-flag in the bio/profile on social media. So much for the “slava ukraini”-chants, as one knew all along, these people are just keyboard warriors, for them, to actually join the war and fight for Ukraine they would never do. This massive but obviously shallow support is what have kept this war alive.
Excellent point.
I’m sure that every war-hungry politician is urging their younger family members to sign up at once! And get into training themselves, if they’re as tough as they like to make out. Lead by example, prepare to die for a righteous cause. After all, we’re all about to be murdered in our beds by the imminent onslaught by Russian hoards – it must be true, the keep telling us this.
glenn_nl
Yes a good example of this hypocrisy is Ursula van der Leyen:
Ursula von der Leyen, the chief architect of Europe’s military posturing, was asked if any of her own children had served in the army. Her response? A dismissive chuckle, a sarcastic remark—“as a mother, I wouldn’t allow it.” How convenient.
Video: https://x.com/Banks_Banksg/status/1897412212324458619
Jack
You wish that there were more “war-hungry politicians” in Europe?
JK Redux
Well – I reckon about 800 billion Euros says that they are either planning on:
A) Being attacked by Russia
Or:
B) Defending against Russia in an Israeli type way of Attack being a form of Defence?
Conditional on;
C) Making sure the US cover their backsides with Article 5 and Nukes?
Without both of C) being on offer they must just be performing for the folks back home?
As usual it all depends on the Nukes.
The US has a lot and Russia has a lot and the EU has the French ones.
Yet again I have to say in my experience the US will not go to Nuke War for any country.
When they get round to China we shall see what they will do about their REAL threat – not
the less threatening ones.
You signing up yourself, JK, and encouraging your family to do likewise…?
If not, why not?
Glenn Nl
At least you and I (both in Europe I think) have a choice.
Young Russian men have no choice but to enter the meat grinder.
And young Ukrainian men have two choices; flee or fight.
Most choose the latter.
In 2023 I met a Ukrainian guy who had chosen to evacuate his family to W Europe.
Family vs country , a choice that I hope that neither of us ever has to make.
“In 2023 I met a Ukrainian guy who had chosen to evacuate his family to W Europe. Family vs country , a choice that I hope that neither of us ever has to make.”
Given that Ukraine was the most corrupt country in Europe and is still one of the most corrupt countries, I don’t think that was a very difficult choice. Of course, on planet Copium, all those Ukrainians were fleeing because they were afraid of the big, bad, Russians. Funny how so many of them fled to Russia or fled to the West via Russia.
Bayard
The family that I met was from Mariupol.
You may have heard of it, once a city in the East of Ukraine, now destroyed by the Russian Army.
“The family that I met was from Mariupol.”
Well I do hope they got out before the Ukranian army arrived. I wouldn’t fancy being used as a human shield.
However, what about you? Are you going to join up to fight the Russians you see as such a threat to humanity and civilization, or urge younger members of your family to do so, if age prevents you? There is such a thing as volunteering, you know, like the Russians do. You don’t have to wait to be conscripted like an unfortunate Ukranian.
Ukraine was never as corrupt as Russia and still isn’t.
Ukraine’s army wasn’t the problem in Mariupol.
“Mariupol. Unlost hope” (The Organization of Ukrainian Producers, 22 Aug 2022) – YouTube, 59s
“Ukraine was never as corrupt as Russia and still isn’t.”
Transparency International would beg to differ. https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2014/index/isl Or perhaps you, sitting at home on your keyboard have a better idea of the amount of corruption in Ukraine than they do?
A typical non-sequiteur remark from someone like you. Even if Ukraine is less corrupt then Russia, it’s still pretty corrupt and it is still a no-brainer to take the opportunity to exchange it as a home with a much less corrupt country, especially if that country is willing to take you.
“Ukraine’s army wasn’t the problem in Mariupol.”
Ahem, human shields? Of course for you they don’t exist, because you don’t want them to exist. Those nice Ukranians might lock people into burning buildings, but they would never use the inmates of a maternity hospital as a human shield.
That was 2014 and there wasn’t much in it. Try 2024’s index.
https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2024
Ukraine 105th, Russia 154th.
Any evidence of these ‘human shields’?
What part of “never” as in “never as corrupt as Russia” are you struggling with or does “never” only go back to 2015?
Plenty of reports at the time, but not on the BBC, so you can continue to delude yourself it didn’t happen.
In Europe at the moment, we are witnessing the frantic floundering of Starmer (the ultimate empty suit), Macroleon, Ursula Fond o’ Lyin’ and the Yappy Estonian Chihuahua Kallas, which has given rise to the unfathomable quantum phenomenon of “Schrödinger’s Russia” where that country is in a quantum superposition of being both:
a) On the verge of economic collapse
and
b) Poised to overrun the whole of Europe.
I believe this phenomenon is also known as Russophrenia.
Perhaps from her unique vantage point, Tatyana might be able to shed a little more light on this problem.
Frank Hovis
You have heard the phrase “the sting of a dying wasp”?
Putin can still do a lot of damage before his security detail take him for a short walk.
The sooner the latter occurs, the better for Europe and for Russia.
John Kinsella,
I was addressing Tatyana. I’m not interested in reading your cliché-ridden drivel.
Butt out.
Thank you for asking the question, Frank, and special thanks for Schrödinger and quantum superposition 🙂 I’m delighted to see discussions involving science and humor.
Russophrenia certainly exists, I believe that it’s a special case of generalized mental disorder. Presumably, the disease develops from a lack of reliable information.
It is the way humans are designed. We need a varied diet for health, and if we make up our diet exclusively from potatoes and butter, then we will surely achieve obesity and diabetes. The same is true for mental health. If we feed our head exclusively from mainstream media, then our heads first swell and then stop producing the digestive enzyme.
In some patients, such as in Baerbock’s case, a cognitive deficit, perhaps mild debility, cannot be ruled out. And in Kallas’s case, I’d suspect extreme emotional instability (which harsh Russian humor usually attributes to a lack of sex).
The epidemiological situation is alarming, since governments are deliberately worsening the population’s access to preventive measures. Namely: a ban on all Russian media, excluding Russians from public statements, marginalization of independent media and bloggers, persecution of any opinions that do not follow the diet prescribed by the government.
I’d suggest preventing this disease with simple methods – demanding that governments not restrict access to a varied diet, that is, fighting for freedom of speech and freedom of information.
As for EU politicians, I’ve heard that their positions are not elected. I find it healthy not to listen to an official I did not vote for, especially if he calls for war.
Tatyana
Your comment “marginalization of independent media and bloggers, persecution of any opinions that do not follow the diet prescribed by the government” is ironically an accurate description of your own country.
I’m sorry that you are reduced to the sleazy remark that you made about Kaja Kallas. An admirable woman.
(This should be a time of rejoicing for lovers of tyranny and oppression, instead we see only unease in tankie-land. Strange.)
Tatyana
I would say “Russophrenia” (or what one choose to call it) should be considered a real “condition” but since it is so common people do not realize that they suffer from a twisted, delusional view on Russia, Russians etc. It is like a collective-psychosis going on. What is worse that is that people suffering from this “condition” also often suffer from the TDS (Trump derangement syndrome).
Some years ago in Sweden there was a murder-case where a guy – totally unprovoked – stabbed a woman and her mom to death, he claimed that she was a russian agent that was about to lure him into a secret russian-network.
He left a note on the murder scene saying “She was a russian agent – Slava ukraini”
Photo: https://ibb.co/fYr024xJ
Perhaps one should not be surprised that horrible incidents like this could happen considering the hysteria going on in the western society.
Jack, thanks for the linked image, there’s a spelling error in the country’s name, btw 🙂
Indeed, there are quite a lot of fake Ukrainians nowadays, or illiterate Ukrainians, or, non-Ukrainian supporters of Ukraine, who actually have never been to Ukraine. And also enemies of Russia who have never visited here yet pretend they know what the things look like here.
Like the permanently present liar, who claims that Ukrainian men have a choice. When in fact the country has declared a general mobilization and all men aged 18-60 are required to register for military service.
They cannot leave the country if they are deemed fit for service, they will not be issued a foreign passport, they will not be allowed through at the border, and they are detained on the streets if they cannot show a document to a policeman in the street.
People are being mobilized by force, videos are circulating on the Internet of men being grabbed on the streets and shoved into minibuses (in Russian/Ukrainian it’s called a busik, and the neologism “busification” has already appeared)
Stories here and there, a family won’t let a man be taken away, some cases of shooting and death.
For young men aged 18 to 25, Ukraine has prepared contract service in 6 brigades, and all positions are combat ones. The recruits are sent to the front after about 60 days of training
https://24tv.ua/ru/kontrakt-18-24-goda-kakie-uslovija-dolzhnosti-brigady-pochemu-est-skandal-sredi-voennyh-24-kanal_n2752193
The Ukrainian KGB publishes videos on children’s TV channels, urging children to call the security service and report if their family is listening to Russian music.
The activists film teenagers looking like 10-13 years old, who sit in a workshop and fill plastic bottles with shrapnel. These containers are then tied to drones and sent to Russian cities, not for military purposes, but to terrorize the population, to maim and intimidate.
Our regular liar broadcasts that everything is just fine in the country himself has never been to, based on what he was told by someone who ran away from there long ago.
Tatyana
I thought I’d better point out that in my previous post on 17/03/25 at 22:41, I never meant to give offense to Chihuahuas by comparing them with that odious Estonian gorgon, Kallas, and if I have offended any Chihuahuas by doing so, then I unreservedly apologise.
Frank 🙂
Did you know that Der Leyen became a politician at the age of 40, and before that she graduated from the medical school of Hannover and she was a medic in gynecology? This fact is played out in jokes, where Zelensky says “Ursula, I need help”.
Tatyana,
Your mentioning Ursula Fond o’ Lyin’ in your last post and Frau Bareback in the one before that has made me realise we don’t have just one gorgon in the European Union but the whole set!
Fond o’ Lyin’ is obviously Medusa but Kallas and Bareback will have to fight it out as to who gets to be Stheno and Euryale!
Frank, Russian mythology has its own lizards, the Zmey (*Serpent) Gorynych, a type of dragon with three heads, emits flames from its mouth and its heads grow back after being cut off, like a hydra.
Although in Russian mythology any of them would rather be Baba Yaga, a nasty forest witch, her usual saying is “Eww, smells like Russian spirit”, she likes to throw young people into the oven and feeds on that.
” In some patients, such as in Baerbock’s case, a cognitive deficit, perhaps mild debility, cannot be ruled out. And in Kallas’s case, I’d suspect extreme emotional instability (which harsh Russian humor usually attributes to a lack of sex). ”
Thank you Dr Tatyana.
Yes your last comment is similar to the oafish remark sometimes heard from British low life that any strong woman needs a good seeing to. Overall you seem to be harking back to the philosophy of the Soviet Union that anybody who didn’t support the regime must be mad and needed to be locked away in secure mental ‘hospitals’ for their own good.
I read that Russia has issued an arrest warrant for Kaja Kallas for supporting the destruction of Soviet era statues and monuments in Estonia. Aside from the sheer hubris can we expect another ‘Special Military Operation’ to enact her arrest?
This is where I don’t get it, Pears.
Do you seriously expect me to speak respectfully about those who call us enemies? Who spread lies? Who admires Nazis? No, thanks, I’m not Ukrainian. I’m Russian, and imo this is more than obvious.
If Germany and Estonia are Russia’s enemies then it’s not their doing. Germany used to do a lot of trade with Russia.
Personal insults don’t help debate.
“Fond o’ Lyin’ is obviously Medusa but Kallas and Bareback …”
Shouldn’t that be “Callous and Bareback…” if we are ascribing nicknames?
“If Germany and Estonia are Russia’s enemies then it’s not their doing. Germany used to do a lot of trade with Russia.”
I’m glad you agree with me that the Germans and Estonians have been led astray by Russophobic demagogues.
Seems like Russia foolishy walked into the rushed “ceasefire” idea.
As one expected to happen, without a real surviellance and or penalty mechanism of the so called “ceasefire”, this is what was bound to happen:
“Kiev violated Trump-mediated infrastructure ceasefire – Moscow”
The Ukrainian military allegedly attacked an energy site deep inside Russia after it announced a pause on long-range strikes
The overnight attack involved three kamikaze drones directed against a station near the village of Kavkazskaya, the ministry reported. The facility is used to transfer crude from rail-transported tanks to a pipeline operated by the Caspian Pipeline Consortium (CPC), an international firm that counts US giants Chevron and Mobil among its partners.
https://swentr.site/russia/614485-ukraine-violate-ceasefire-trump/
And of course no punishment by the west when Ukraine breach the ceasefire but if Russia now respond in kind then I believe Trump will contemplate sanctions against Russia.
” Seems like Russia foolishy walked into the rushed “ceasefire” idea. ”
Or was never serious about it in the first place.
Putin’s words ‘at odds with reality’, Zelensky says as he accuses Russia of hitting energy targets (BBC News, 19 Mar 2025) – https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/clynp1nldmxt
Wouldn’t have been much of a ceasefire if it had worked.
That’s got to be a classic from you, quoting the BBC quoting Zelensky accusing the Russians of breaking the ceasefire and expecting us to believe it.
“Wouldn’t have been much of a ceasefire if it had worked.”
Of course it was never going to work: a ceasefire brokered by the US without reference to Ukraine was never going to be observed by the Ukranians.
I appreciate that any Western source is not going to be as objective and unbiased as your favourites like RT and Sputnik but they’re not known for publishing negative stories about Russia. Too many open windows.
Wrong again, I never read one of those and very seldom read the other. Unlike you, I like my sources to be closer to the truth. There are plenty of Western sources that I read and believe to be fairly unbiased or at least where I can make allowances for bias, but, unfortunately, the BBC doesn’t come into that category any more. Even if I did believe the BBC, I still wouldn’t trust Zelensky to give me an accurate time of day.
If your sources are that good you ought to share them with the rest of us.
Are they really ‘closer to the truth’ or just telling you what you want to hear?
What would be the point? Anything I post that disagrees with the BBC you tend to dismiss as Russian propaganda. I have yet to see anyone on this blog get you to acknowledge as fact anything you don’t want to hear. There are no “reliable sources” and I have already explained my way of winnowing the wheat from the chaff. It seems you didn’t listen then, so I am not going to waste my time repeating it.
You were happy enough to quote ‘Sputnik International’ on the 16th regarding the encircled NATO officers story, for which you later admitted there was no evidence.
Today we have a prisoner exchange of 175 for 175, and Russia has returned another 22 seriously wounded. Our news reports that the mediator was the United Arab Emirates.
At that time, Trump spoke with Zelensky today, something about rapprochement between Russia and Ukraine.
I will simply leave this here as an expression of hope for peace and with great gratitude to the countries making efforts for a diplomatic settlement.
And Kallas and co., shame on them for calling for war.
Not the first exchange of prisoners nor the first organised by the UAE. Around 150 from each side were swapped in December of last year. There have been several ‘body swaps’ of those KIA too.
Strange. I cannot recall one single time Estonia, or Germany, or EU organised prisoner exchange.
Do you, Pears?
Neither did Belorussia or Chechnya or China or India. So?
Belarus has acted as a mediator many times, and the last prisoner exchange took place across their border. Belarus has also acted as a mediator in peace talks at least three times. If the phrase Minsk Agreements 1 and Minsk Agreements 2 do not mean anything to you, then I will tell you that Minsk is the capital of Belarus.
I’m interested in the position of Europe, because they invited Ukraine to join the European Union, which means they consider it “part of themselves”. Especially since the war is going on in Ukraine, on European territory, close to the borders of the EU.
So it’s surprising to me to see how these people do not want a peaceful settlement and do not make efforts in this direction, but quite the opposite.
Btw, I calculated that the population of the EU is 1/18 of all people on the planet, and the number of European countries is 1/7 of all states on the planet.
As a professional housewife 🙂 it’s easier for me to imagine that I have 18 guests and 7 slices of pizza. So 1 guest EU gets 1 whole slice, and the other 17 guests get 6 slices for all. That is, to treat those remaining 17 guests, I’d have to cut those remaining 6 pizza slices into three parts each to give to every guest!
That is how we, the population of our planet, are represented currently in the UN.
And with such a fat piece, the European Union calls for war and does nothing for a peaceful settlement.
Zelensky, for some reason manage to play Trump/world that he want peace, it is obvious that he only try prolong the war and to lure Trump to become more pro-ukraine/pro-war in the mix, just today he put out the idea that US troops should safeguard nuclear plants, he still do not get it – Trump do not want to become more involved but less involved – how dense is this man(boy)? This appeasement just expand Zelensky’s spoilt ego.
“Trump suggests to Zelenskyy that the US should take ownership of Ukrainian power plants for security”
https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-ceasefire-talks-drones-65c00a0afd130731e0e0c054ac528b44
Besides, the only party that have repeatedly struck nuclear power plants in this war is Ukraine itself but the deluded Zelensky is perhaps being fed false information by hiis military, not tellng him that little fact.
Ok, I see that I was too quick reading that link, it was Trump not Zelensky that made that weird offer to safeguard nuclear plants, my bad.
It may sound strange, but I like the fact that the West maintains sanctions against Russia. Or rather, I like the fact that the country has finally received an impetus to develop its own production rather than rely on imports.
Import substitution is going on in industries. It was recently reported that our civilian airliner Sukhoi SuperJet got new domestic-made engine and is being tested now. Previously it worked with engines of Russian-French design.
Perm factory presented Proton Multicut machine (it’s digital-letter code T800 may amuse those fans of cinema who know the names Sarah Connor and SkyNet 🙂 Eleven controlled axes, 5 can work simultaneously, processes titanium and heat-resistant steels, can make turbine rotors! Here I recalled Herr Scholz looking into a Siemens turbine as if he understands something about this 🙂
This is very inspiring to me personally. I’m a small business that has reached the ceiling of possibilities. I’m looking for a way to buy a machine to move forward.
So far, I found one in China, but for some weird reason our trade is based on the dollar, and the current exchange rate is extremely unfavorable.
So I’m sitting and waiting for an opportunity.
We expect a visa-free regime, and maybe BRICS will introduce its own currency, this would be very helpful.
It is indeed very clear what and where Putin’s and Russia’s interests worth military intervention are: the protection of Russian minorities (majorities in case of Crimea&co) and to a lesser extent of orthodox allies (Serbia).
Therefore, it is also very obvious how countries with Russian minorities can live in peace with Russia: by not discriminating their Russian minorities. Ukraine found out the hard way, the Baltic states are playing with fire and no one should help them if it erupts, and the lid is currently wisely kept on Transnistria, but how that develops remains to be seen (Moldova’s rigged EU shift vs. Russia advancing in Ukraine to its border).
Deducting further imperial ambition from those legitimate interests is completely idiotic and/or just agenda driven.
It is sad and very telling about European citizens intelligence, morals and susceptibility to propaganda that they overwhelmingly fall for this.
Simple logic would tell them that:
There is no need for Russia to expand, it has all it needs.
There is nothing of intact value in the West it could gain by invading and occupying Poland or Germany&co.
Firstly, no resources (which it has plenty of itself and does not need more of).
Secondly, economies and assets would be destroyed and become worthless and not fungible in the case of an invasion.
It wants to have functioning economies as clients for its resources instead.
Thirdly, they/he know history and that the populations are hostile, meaning not just an invasion, for which he/they would need many millions of soldiers they don’t have, but also an occupation, for which they would need those millions of Russian civilians and soldiers as well, would be impossible to pull off successfully.
and lastly:
Russia’s capabilities are already at a limit with the Ukraine war.
If Putin had such ambitions and capabilities, he certainly would not wait until Europe had up-armed.
Obviously, our politicians know all this as well and are therefore simply lying and making this threat up.
Why? As always for reasons of power and money, with the benefits being handed to a set of different people from time to time. The Covid and mRNA scams are over and will be hard to repeat, the man-made climate change scam has seen its peak and that leaves only the war card and threat for them to play.
Russia has no more duty of care to Russian or Russian speaking minorities in other countries then Israel has to the Jewish diaspora. Would you think it reasonable for Israel to carry out military assaults against this country because of the rise of anti-Semitism?
According to Russia Ukraine attacked another energy/infrastructure inside Russia despite the ceasefire
Ukraine attacks Russian gas pipeline – reports
Kiev’s forces have allegedly targeted a metering station in Kursk Region
https://swentr.site/russia/614562-ukraine-attacks-sudhza-gas-equipment/
Did not Russia anticpiated that Ukraine would breach the ceasefire?
Ukraine is saying it’s ‘false flag’, that Russia bombed the facility itself.
No I don’t believe it either.
It was obvious that this ceasefire wasn’t going to hold. Putin probably agreed to it just to get Trump off the ‘phone.