Western governments’ abandonment of the very system of international law which they created was embodied in a tweet from the German Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which sought to justify the illegal Israeli attack on Iran as “Targeted strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities”.
The former Director General of the International Atomic Energy Authority, Mohamed ElBaradei, was left to point out that far from a justification, it is specifically against international law to target nuclear facilities.
He refers to Article 56 of the Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions. While we are on the subject, you might also wish to see article 54:
It is worth noting that the exception on destruction of foodstuffs at Article 5 refers to the right of a country which is defending against invasion, not which is invading another country. It means that it is not illegal for a country to destroy crops and stocks of its own, on its own territory. Which is to say a scorched-earth policy against an invader is legal. It does not give the right to refuse supplies to a population under occupation.
The German justification was of course just part of a chorus of Western support for the Israeli attack on Iran, in which numerous Western leaders all parroted a co-ordinated line about “Israel’s right of self-defence”, even as Israel conducted an entirely illegal and unprovoked attack on Iran during peace talks.
There are dozens of examples, but I give you the openly genocidal von der Leyen as one:
Spoke with President @Isaac_Herzog concerning the escalating situation in the Middle East.
I reiterated Israel’s right to defend itself and protect its people. At the same time, preserving regional stability is vital.
I urge all parties to act with maximum restraint and work…
— Ursula von der Leyen (@vonderleyen) June 13, 2025
On Thursday, before Israel attacked Iran, I attended the UN General Assembly debate on Palestine. This had limited utility as it mandated no specific measures and did not suspend Israel from the United Nations, the one truly useful action the General Assembly has the power to implement.
The motion called for an immediate ceasefire and for states to take “all necessary measures”, but that is the last we shall hear of it. It passed by 150 votes to 12, with opposition from the United States, its de facto colonies and the small far-right collection of Argentina, Paraguay etc.
But there was one interesting point in the Statements, known as Explanations of Vote, of the national delegations. These too were very routine, with Arab states that have not the slightest intention of actually doing anything, condemning Israel and western nations all launching blood-curdling condemnations of Hamas (yes, really, that was still their priority, 60,000 dead Palestinian civilians later).
But the UK explanation of vote made one point that absolutely nobody else made. It stuck out like a sore thumb. The British Ambassador to the UN stated that
“While the UK voted in favour of this resolution, we wish to clarify that our long-standing position remains that there is no legal obligation on states to ensure respect for international law by third parties.”
When the EOV was published, this part of the statement was bolstered by a reference to Common Article 1 of the Geneva Convention. I do not recall her actually saying this and it is not in my notes.
Common Article 1 (so called because it is present in every one of the Geneva Conventions) reads:
Article 1
The High Contracting Parties undertake to respect and to ensure respect for the present Convention in all circumstances.
So why did the UK, and the UK alone, say that it is not responsible for ensuring that other parties comply with international law, adding later a specific reference to the Geneva Conventions?
It is perfectly simple. Starmer and Lammy are terrified about future charges of complicity in Israeli war crimes. So the UK, only, feels it necessary to emphasise that they do not bear legal responsibility for Israel’s actions.
They claim they are not responsible for what Israel did with the supplies of UK munitions, which the UK increased to fuel the genocide.
They claim they are not responsible for what Israel did with the targeting information they gave Israel on a daily basis from RAF Akrotiri flights over Gaza.
They claim they are not responsible for the Israeli use of weapons flown in through the UK and Akrotiri.
They claim they are not responsible for use of the F-35 jets attacking Iran now, which they continue to supply with UK-manufactured spare parts.
We simply do not yet know what else they have done to support Israel based on the secret UK-Israeli defence treaty, but whatever it is, Starmer and Lammy want to make absolutely plain that the UK had no responsibility to prevent Israel from committing war crimes.
The claim that this is longstanding British policy is of course a rather frivolous bit of gaslighting. Indeed given that this argument runs completely counter to the doctrine of “the responsibility to protect” – of which the UK was the leading international proponent – it is simple nonsense.
[As it happens I always opposed the “responsibility to protect” argument because it is used as an excuse for Imperialism, cf. the destruction of Libya.]
The Genocide Convention in fact explicitly does create a duty on states to prevent genocide by third parties.
Article I of the Genocide Convention reads:
The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish.
So the declaration by Starmer and Lammy of not bearing responsibility really does not wash. The interesting thing is that they felt compelled to make it.
The evening after the debate I attended receptions hosted by both the British Ambassador and then by the Russian Ambassador, and I spoke to a large number of Ambassadors to the UN. Of course we discussed the debate, and everybody had noticed both the extraordinary and unusual addition to the UK statement and its motive.
They all specifically realised it was an effort to back away from responsibility for complicity in Israeli crimes.
I understand and share your disappointment at the collapse of international law. But I can tell you that the prospect of eventual retribution at the Hague still terrifies Starmer and Lammy.
Netanyahu’s desperate gamble in attacking Iran is an attempt to force the USA to join the war on Israel’s behalf, and to prevent peace talks.
It is of course simply untrue that Iran was about to produce a nuclear weapon. Every Spring a CIA-led US intelligence exercise formally reviews the situation, and the firm position of Five Eyes intelligence remains that Iran genuinely was not seeking to make a nuclear weapon.
I hope that Iran learns the lesson of Southern Lebanon. There, over many months, Israeli air superiority enabled them to substantially degrade missile systems of various resistance factions. Israel does – not least because of the traitors ruling Jordan and Syria – have air superiority over Iran. In a long war of attrition, Israeli bombing raids could do real damage to Iranian capabilities.
Iran’s best strategy would be to view this as the existential crisis, and seriously unload its missile capacity on Israel without restraint. The period of measured tit-for-tat reprisals is at an end. The decision of nuclear-armed Pakistan to stand behind Iran was extremely helpful. These are early days in the Israeli-Iranian war. I do not sense any popular enthusiasm in the USA to be involved. Even the mainstream American media is characterising Iranian attacks as “retaliation” and the Israeli victim card is no longer as Platinum as it used to be here in the USA.
Germany has been refuelling Israeli jets en route to attack Iran, and the UK may also have been doing so. Starmer and Macron have both expressed determination to defend Israel with their own military but both would face massive popular resistance.
We wait to see what happens next. But having lived through vicious Israeli bombardment of Beirut, having been menaced by drones in the Bekaa Valley, having stood on the line at Kfar Kila while a twelve-year-old boy was shot standing next to my producer, having witnessed 100,000 Lebanese homes destroyed, I have no sympathy left for Tel Aviv.
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Worth remembering that on 8 June 2025, Iran claimed a huge intelligence success against the Occupation, in which it obtained thousands of documents relating to the Occupation’s nuclear installations, its nuclear plans, military facilities, relationships with the US and countries in Europe and elsewhere, and how Rafael Grossi the head of the IAEA was obeying its orders.
https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2025/06/08/3330518/intelligence-minister-iran-to-release-data-obtained-on-israel-s-nuclear-activities
The Iranian government took around 8 hours to recover from the sneak attack by Israel, now its air defences are up and running again.
Col Wilkerson on Nima’s show likened this to what Yamamoto said after Pearl Harbour. “We have awakened a sleeping giant”. Netanyahu knew he could not eliminate Iran’s nuclear programme since Fordow is far underground and under a mountain. It is debatable whether the US air force could do it. If ground troops were required they would be wiped out. It is said the Shia take their shrouds into battle. It could be (I hope it is) that Israel/US has taken on more than they can chew.
Meanwhile this from IRGC commanders aerospace force “The powerful and highly maneuverable Fattah missiles repeatedly shook the shelters of the cowardly Zionists tonight, sending a clear message of Iran’s strength to Tel Aviv’s warmongering ally, which continues to dwell in delusions and false assumptions,” it noted.
The statement emphasized that the missile barrage proved Iran now holds complete dominance over the skies of the occupied territories and that Israeli settlers remain utterly defenseless against the Islamic Republic’s precision strikes. (Press TV)
It could be this is not pure propaganda since we can see in real time most of those missiles getting through.
Iran is huge, but if Israel starts nuking all the cities it will lose some of its 90 million citizens.
Tulsi Gabbard visited Hiroshima to understand the aftermath of a nuclear strike.
I don’t expect nukes to be used. It’d be obscene, criminal, idiotic and likely get Trump impeached and jailed. The UK will not participate in mass slaughter either ,as they can’t keep getting away with it, as Blair did.
Trump is already boasting that Iran is now defenceless; what on earth is the case for using nukes against a defenceless, non-nuclear armed country?
I don’t even see the point of using massive air-power other than for flex. It makes the US look like a pathetic bully.
Trump will be destroyed in the midterms if he goes ahead with this. I don’t know whether he, Vance, Hegseth and co understand the implications of this and the political damage to them and their party? MAGA hate the neocons, and were promised no more wars and here he is, acting like Dick Cheney reborn.
“Trump will be destroyed in the midterms if he goes ahead with this.” Actually I think Trump will be in trouble in the midterms regardless, because of the failure of his flagship “big beautiful bill” to enrich the oligarchy at the expense of the poorer classes.
Which makes me wonder whether desperation would be the reason for Trump to join Netanyahu, himself desperate to keep out of pollitical ruin and jail.
Speaking of Tulsi Gabbard, what is she doing?
Background:
1. Gabbard, Tucker, even Bannon – there have been signs that they may be incurring Loony Smallhands’s displeasure.
2. There have been a few occasions over the past few days when Loony Smallhands has found it hard to cope with people saying he’s going to take a certain course of action – including e.g. Macron saying Loony had left the G7 meeting to try to get a “ceasefire”, which doubtless Macron meant admiringly but the Loony took as one of his parents (or subordinates or something) describing what was going on in his mind and therefore had a temper tantrum over.
Where this leaves us, I don’t know. Gabbard presumably knew what she was doing when she made that video.
Iran’s Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) said that strikes over Tuesday night used “a new advanced missile.” According to state media, the first-generation Fattah hypersonic ballistic missile has a two-stage solid-fuel system, a 1,400-kilometer range, a top speed of Mach 13-15, and a maximum time-to-target of just 336 seconds. Claiming it repeatedly and easily penetrated Israel’s defenses, the IRGC boasted that “tonight’s missile strike demonstrated that we have achieved total control over the skies of the occupied territories.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-running-low-missile-interceptors-iran-proves-stronger-foe-expected
How long can Iran keep this up before its missile stocks run low? Similarly Israels interceptor missiles are running low, and are noticeably ineffectual. Israeli authorities have banned recording of missile hits and resulting damage, could it be those damages are worse than expected?
Starmer and Lammy may well avoid The Hague but not those who work for justice. We should individually mobilise to publicly shame them. Call out their crimes. Spit on them. Thereby reduce their world to only walking among their kind or remain indoors. We have other ways to imprison those who are complicit in war crimes as they surely are.
What a good idea, if everyone boycotted them and sent them to Coventry, there is nothing that they could do, unlike a legal process which would be expensive and difficult to prevent the evil-doers from weaselling out from under.
Imagination is called for.
1. Some kind of tax strike?
2. Don’t say the word “Israel”. Refer to the regime as “the Occupation”, the territory they hold as “Occupied Palestine” (except for the bits in Syria and Lebanon), all Jewish Israelis as “settlers”, all Occupied Palestine as “occupied territories” (the Iranian government does this), places like Tel Aviv as “settlements”, the international organisation of which the colony is a component part as “the Zionists”. Every time someone refers to Israel as if it were a country, the occupation regime gets stronger.
3. Refer to British government institutions by internationally applicable names: the foreign ministry, the interior ministry, the propaganda arm (BBC), etc.
4. Definitely do use the word “regime” with reference to Britain, USA, France, Germany, etc.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a knight who wasn’t there.
He wasn’t there again today,
Oh how I wish he’d go away.
Not a “good knight” without fear and beyond reproach!
Better not travel to Italy though…
The build up of forces is well underway.
“Out of the 11 Active US Aircraft Carriers 3 are now/will be deployed to the CENTCOM region (middle east). – CNN
USS Nimitz (CVN-68)
USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70)
USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78)”
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1935363065593364864#m
It’s insane.
I mean, any regime change moves require winning hearts and minds; what is the US hoping to achieve by unleashing hell against cities and infrastructure people rely on? Iranians surely won’t welcome some pro-Zionist playboy son of the Shah returning, flanked by US special forces, stood among the ruins of a devastated, formerly beautiful capital.
Truly evil empire stuff.
3 Aircraft carrier battle groups i.e. floating coffins against Iranian hypersonic ballistic missiles. The last time 3 carrier battle groups were assembled was against north Korea then Trump tried to intimidate Little Kim, a short time later the carriers were withdrawn and later taco was playing footsie under the table with Kim, then going on walks with him, God knows what else they got up to. Taco is all mouth and no trousers.
Assuming the capability still exists (?), they’d still have to locate them and hit them very accurately and even then they’d need lots of things to go wrong for the US Navy. You’ve got carriers and destroyers, which together can engage hundreds of incoming missiles simultaneously. These strike groups are accompanied by E2-C Hawkeye and C2 Greyhound (for logistics), The Hawkeye aircraft hover, looking for threats avoiding radar by hugging the horizon… remember Exocet in the Falklands? Were this China we were talking about, it might be realistic to overwhelm these CSG using drone swarms, before hitting them with a DF-21D, the so-called ‘carrier-killer’, but… this is Iran
Can’t confirm.
“An Iranian delegation for negotiation may have just landed in Muscat, Oman.
Earlier two iranian government planes were enroute to Oman.”
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1935344520029425692#m
That would be just like Starmer – the obedient puppet.
“Britain is considering possible military support if U.S. President Trump orders a strike on Iran.
Prime Minister Keir Starmer is convening a Cobra (emergency) meeting to assess the situation.”
Source – The Times.
No more illegal wars, Starmer? My govt will introduce a Prevention of Military Intervention Act and make the UK a force for international peace… that Keir Starmer?
In the Labour leadership campaign he even made a big deal over the fact he penned a column in the guardian questioning the legality of the Iraq war in 2003.
Give the man a chance, if he’d told the truth, no-one would have voted for him.
When Trump dropped his papers and Starmer picked them up for him, Starmer said he only did it because not many people are allowed to get close to Trump and he didn’t want a reporter rushing forward to help and being tackled to the ground by security.
He can’t open his mouth without bullsh*tting. He’s worse than Blair!
Does anyone know what the War Studies Dept at Kings College London is doing?
Goose.
I’m pretty sure Westminster signed a defence pact with Israel, it used have to be renewed every decade or so – but now its a permanent pact – where Britain comes to the defence of the Zionist state – at the taxpayers expense; Starmer and others in the Labour party, were part of the biggest smear campaign in recent times against the socialist Jeremy Corbyn – the lies and innuendos against Corbyn – were so wide and persistent (MSM 24/7) many people believed that Corbyn was a terrorist loving anti-Semite – and Starmer, played his part in Corbyn’s demise.
No doubt Mossad, has the pictures and video of you know who – with the Ukrainian rent boys – however I feel that he is a willing accomplice – sleaze or not, and will do what he’s told by Washington and Tel Aviv.
It’s almost certain Starmer will join Trump’s war, as he’s cloyingly obsequious around Trump.
Not without risk though. If Iran struck the controversial Akrotiri and Dhekelia bases , which are located in the Greek-administered southern part of the island. It could cause problems in terms of justifying their continuance to already uneasy Cypriots. Turkey, which shares the Island, certainly wouldn’t be hosting military assets aiding Israel in their quest to exterminate Gazans, that is for sure. I think if the UK gets involved, it could well be targeted assuming Iran still has the capability(?).
Goose.
Iran just fired an ICBM at Israel it reached high into the atmosphere – apparently this is what its capable of.
“IRGC issues a statement
12th wave of Operation True Promise 3 began with launch of heavy, long-range, two-stage Sejjil missiles.
Type: Two-stage solid-propellant.
Speed: Re-entry speed around Mach 12 to 14 (about 4,300 km/h).
Range: 2,000–2,500 km, capable of hitting Israel and parts of Eastern Europe.”
A comparison and a picture of the missile.
First picture – Russian Oreshnik missile (IRBM)
“Second picture – Iran’s new missile (suspected ICBM/MRBM)”
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1935393816594276626#m
Is this it?
The 12th wave of the Sadeq 3 promise began with the firing of long-range, two-stage super-heavy missiles Sajil.
https://nitter.poast.org/GlobeWarReport/status/1935391466198811066#m
Republicofscotland
June 18, 2025 at 18:55
So you think that Starmer uses rent boys?
Why not just say so?
Do you think that Special Branch will kick your door in and throw you in the Tower of London?
It would be amusing if Starmer was outed but there is bugger (sic) all evidence to support the alligators (sic).
Akrotiri and Dhekelia bases are British Overseas Territories (BOT) and are sovereign British (or UK) territories. They are not under Cypriot governance.
However much you may disagree with that state of affairs any attacks on either will be spun as a direct attack on UK sovereign territory and therefore NATO. Given that USA, British and others operate from these bases the question is at what point is the escalation potential worth the attack.
Can’t confirm
JK redux
It doesn’t take a great leap of the imagination – also he’s a very “close” friend of Lord Ali.
https://nitter.poast.org/mohammedakunjee/status/1934541178818433170#m
https://metro.co.uk/2025/06/06/three-men-appear-court-accused-arson-attacks-properties-linked-keir-starmer-23345687/
Your confirmation isn’t required Melrose nor is your confirmation worth any consideration.
“So you think that Starmer uses rent boys?”
Whether he does or not is as irrelevant as whether or not Corbyn was anti-Semitic. As the US politician said of his opponent whom he’d accused of f*cking goats, “I know he doesn’t, I just want to see him deny it on prime time TV.”
Ali Khamenei´s speech on TV today was rather underwhelming. In the past, he was always a lot more aggressive when speaking about the US. Maybe is it just the effect of his alleged ill health. Or then, it can also mean that he’s actually considering surrender, provided his interests are protected.
It is possible that Khameini believes that the war will end if he surrenders. He has been told Tehran will burn if he doesn’t. Those of us who have seen how the Palestinian people have been systematically erased, using dishonest ceasefire hopes, can imagine the horror that awaits a defenceless Iran.
Biden wanted to be the one getting the glory of the rapture of this final battle. Trump took a while to get into harness, but he has been well schooled now. I cannot imagine that anything less than total obliteration approaches the ancient kingdom of Persia.
China is gearing up, making alliances along the Silk Road, but without a definite plan yet. Russia is sidelined in this theatre of war but will try to police the players by offering ways out for key personnel. Taiwan has produced its own first submarine and China is on exercises in the western Pacific.
And we watch our leaders in horror, appalled by their abandonment of principles and ethics, and unsure where this leaves us voters who can only protest vehemently that this is not what we elected them for. This is not what they promised. This is not right.
“and unsure where this leaves us voters who can only protest vehemently that this is not what we elected them for. ”
It leaves us where we should have been decades, if not centuries ago, aware of just how little the people rule in this sham democracy that we claim to be such a great institution.
Melrose
And what would his ‘ interests be ‘?
I’m all ears and eyes.
I don’t think he’s a prospective Shah.
Staying alive would be a good way to start, Mr. Cutts
He’s an old man. Sometimes old men see very little value in staying alive.
Melrose
I suspect that he ( unlike Netanyahu ) really does believe in Martyrdom.
Based on that to utilise a phrase:
He may not be arsed about going to heaven.
Whereas Netanyahu and his crazy mates don’t believe in anything except making money – bombing un-armed
people and their PIN Numbers and Swift Code of their American Bank Accounts.
By now the Western media and its readers should be able to see through false sincerity.
p.s. If I were the Iranian Military I’d persuade him to go to the deepest Nuclear Underground facility.
Perhaps he has been asked and refused.
Meanwhile after the first day kicked off Netanyahu was said to have landed in Greece.
Sincerity and belief indeed.
It may be a coincidence, but Israel’s attack on Iran came just three weeks after the direct Iran-China railway line was opened, thereby enabling China to ship to Iran without going through any waters patrolled by US warships.
Strangely, the best chance of survival for the current Iranian leadership probably lies with Tulsi Gabbard and her friends in Congress.
She keeps telling the Donald: “Wake up! We’ve lifted you to the WH with the motto NO MORE WARS FOR AMERICA. If you indulge in Bibi’s demands, we’re gonna lose the mid-terms! We won’t forgive you! Elon will help us cancel your Bitcoin accounts!”
She may very well succeed. The only thing the Donald really cares about is his net worth. “I did much better than Dad”, says he every time he gets a free Big Mac…
The build up continues.
” Twelve F-22 Raptors out of Langley AFB are en route to RAF Lakenheath as TABOR51 (x4), TABOR61 (x4), and TABOR71 (x4), to be deployed to Muwaffaq Salti AB in Jordan.”
https://nitter.poast.org/GlobeWarReport/status/1935383932100612397#m
The Jerusalem Post
Reza Pahlavi said that plans are in place for a 100-day transitional period if Ayatollah Ali Khamenei’s Islamic Republic regime falls in war with Israel.
Knew it.
His father, installed in an Anglo-American coup d’état in 1953, overthrew a democratically elected leader, Mossadegh, who’d nationalized Iran’s oil industry, which had previously been controlled by British interests. This move was seen as a threat by the US and UK, who feared Soviet influence in the region.
And his father’s hated SAVAK intelligence outfit, with its terror and torture, played a big part in ushering in the Islamic theocracy. The SAVAK’s HQ was ripped apart and ransacked in the revolution. Why he thinks he can waltz in and pick right up idk? It stinks. Democracy yes, this zionist puppet of a stooge, no!
The CIA and MI6 seem to think it’s still 1953. It’s never really about democracy, is it.
“Reza Pahlavi said that plans are in place for a 100-day transitional period if Ayatollah Ali Khamenei’s Islamic Republic regime falls in war with Israel.”
Goose.
I saw a piccy of Reza recently, he was praying against the Wailing Wall, maybe he’s been lined up as the next puppet leader of Iran, a kind of West Asian Juan Guaido – if you like.
BBC interviewed him. And he’s popping up everywhere and appears to be being boosted on X..
This is the sort of crass nonsense the US will try to impose on Iran. You see, the US and UK don’t want a truly pluralistic society and democracy emerging in Iran, anymore than they want one in Egypt, KSA or Jordan. The US and UK want a compliant, repressive regime that keeps criticism of Israel in check. The attitudes in senior US/UK intel circles, are no better than those of colonialists and plantation slave owners of yore, as Jonathan Cook said.
We can see this. I’m sure the people who work for the CIA and MI6 can see this. It goes against our professed values; of wanting to spread free and fair democratic elections around the world. Pahlavi as a dictator wannabe, is very unlikely to be in the best interest of Iranians – US and UK corporations maybe – but not Iranians. They must tell intel folks that your primary objective is to serve the interests of your country, including financial. But it’s still obnoxious when others have to suffer poor democratic outcomes because of secret decisions taken elsewhere – decisions that may be based on false assumptions.. Nobody should desire a world of ‘beggar thy neighbour’
The average age in Iran is around 32 years old.
the average age in Pakistan ( a country not considered in Nuke terms by the West is 20.6 years old).
I remember reading The Sunday Times ‘Insight ‘ pullout ( that was when it was a good paper then and it reported that young people were attacking the Shah’s tanks and pulling them apart with their bare hands.
From memory the Old Regime was being toppled by Young Students and the Iranian Working Class.
They were Left Wing and political – they had Workers Shora’s ( almost Iranian Soviets).
Unlike the softies in The West they really would have ( and did ) die for their cause.
When this leftish movement gathered momentum the West decided to help The Exiled Ayatollah Khomeini come to power.
They even put a plane at his disposal to head off the ‘ left ‘ young led Revolution.
It worked and the new Regime brutally attacked the Students and the Workers.
The thing is the new Khameini Ayatollah will now have to rely on the same youngsters to defend the Revolution.
The World moves in mysterious ways.
Meanwhile Donald doesn’t know what he’s going to do so, Sir Kier doesn’t know what to do.
Yet again for Starmer it’s the unknown knowns that he is waiting for.
Alternatively ‘ known ‘ as orders.
He is awaiting orders.
p.s Keep an eye on Pakistan – they have offered to ‘lend ‘ Iran Nuclear Warheads or
Nuclear Nukes in the past.
Similar to :
‘ You wouldn’t hit a Man with glasses would you ‘?
You wouldn’t nuke a country that had Nukes would you?
Some have said that Iran has had Nukes for a few years.
It’s just that they are not in Iran but, elsewhere.
Could be legend – could be true?
Yes Mr Cutts – this is what my friend told me last month. The Trade Unions were duped into supporting the Ayatollah with a promise of greater liberty and more rights, and then they were crushed and oppressed. Will they have more liberty and human rights if the Ayatollahs go, do you think? Some of them may have this hope. If the attacks stop before any nukes are used. If democracy is allowed to establish itself. If Iran is not seriously weakened. The Left may hope.
And I had not understood until you have explained it now, that this was a Communist Revolution against the inequality under the Shah’s regime.
But China will see an opportunity. Other countries can see how the West has betrayed its own principles and democratic trust. There is a deep distrust and alarm at the way Israel has been unchecked in the harm that it has perpetrated against its neighbours ‘by way of deception’ and unprovoked, brief episodes, of violence.
We hope we can remain bystanders as this unfolds.
” If the attacks stop before any nukes are used. If democracy is allowed to establish itself. If Iran is not seriously weakened.”
Never going to happen. If there is one thing that the West hates and fears more than an unfriendly theocratic or autocratic regime, it’s a socialist regime. The UK only got away with it after WWII because such a large proportion of the workers had just been trained to use arms and kill people.
“. Will they have more liberty and human rights if the Ayatollahs go, do you think?”
One thing you can be sure of is that any regime change engineered in the West will produce a worse liberty and human rights situation.
Alyson
Not sure it was a Communist young people’s Revolution but from memory it was heading
that way.
This was a long time ago.
Better a Theocracy than Communists for the rich.
Even fascism, as they can at least keep some of their ill gotten gains and come
back for the rest once things calm down.
Temporarily poor capitalists.
“I remember reading The Sunday Times ‘Insight ‘ pullout ( that was when it was a good paper)”
Quickly suppressed when that dreadful Australian was allowed to buy the paper. Until The Independent began, there was no English newspaper worth reading. Sadly The Inderelictependent went the same way in the early 2000s.
Douglas Carswell, former MP for the Conservative Party and UKIP and a strong supporter of the Occupation in Palestine, is now calling for the mass deportation of British Pakistanis:
https://nitter.poast.org/DouglasCarswell/status/1934690056972927353#m
His exact words are “Mass deportation of Pakistanis from Britain. I don’t care how long you’ve lived here. Out”
Dunno what he means by “here”. He was born in Africa and currently lives in the USA.
His call is being circulated by Elon Musk.
I see Carswell was a non-executive board member of the Department for International Trade between 2020 and 2023. How did he get that job? Is he a friend of the royal family?
“How did he get that job? Is he a friend of the royal family?”
You don’t have to be a friend of the Royal Family to get a first class seat on The Gravy Train. This is just today’s version of the sinecures of the C18th. Patronage never goes out of fashion.
The Russian government may possibly be about to let Iran get whacked. Don’t forget that Chabad is legal in Russia. Although at the same time it’s true that the Russian military has a lot on its hands. Then again, ultimately the country possesses large numbers of strategic nuclear warheads and ICBMs and there is only one language the Zionists will understand – which may also apply to the USA. If the Russian government is not prepared to point to its nukes and tell the Zionists “Make our f***ing day”, why not go the whole hog and let the Zionists look after the aforementioned nukes on their behalf.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/6/19/live-israel-attacks-iran-security-agency-trump-mulls-joining-conflict?update=3785035
“The Russian leader said the Iranian–Russian Treaty on Comprehensive Strategic Partnership, signed in January and ratified on June 15, makes no provisions for defence cooperation, adding that Iran had not raised the issue, so there’s “nothing to discuss”.
“We once offered our Iranian friends to work in the field of air defence systems, but our partners didn’t show much interest then, and that’s it. As for the agreement you mentioned about the strategic partnership, there are no articles related to the defence sphere,” he said.“
Doing nothing to help Iran won’t help Russia in the war against Ukraine and may hinder them, given not just that Iran supplies weapons to Russia for use in that war but also – and especially after the evacuation of Syria – the door will be open to the “Paper Tiger” box.
If the Russian government does not assist Iran, the Iranian government will be perfectly justified (and in fact may have no choice in the matter) in telling it to seek another supplier for its drones.
“If the Russian government does not assist Iran, the Iranian government will be perfectly justified (and in fact may have no choice in the matter) in telling it to seek another supplier for its drones.”
That presupposes that Russia still needs to buy drones from Iran. People seem to forget that there are always other options than rushing in, all guns blazing.
The Iranians would benefit from electronic warfare equipment, perhaps S series surface to air missiles and satellite reconnaissance. Using what the Iranians had got better, is far more useful than piling in manpower. I wonder what the Iranians have already got from Russia and what the Iranians are keeping back for when the Great Satan joins in openly. I remember the scene in Apocalypse Now when the boat sailed under the back end of a B-52. Perhaps the Iranians will nick the surfboard too.
Russia promised to protect Israel from Iran, and Iran from Israel. The peace between the two countries was predicated on this. Ukraine was for the purpose of weakening Russia and depleting its men and munitions.
China is making alliances and stating it will ensure that other nations will have nukes. Their own nukes.
It is clear that Iran’s fate has come about because it doesn’t have nukes.
It is country number seven on the original list of seven countries for regime change that the Bush family of Texas oilmen originally drew up, quite possibly in partnership with their near neighbours the Bin Ladens. (Why else would the Bin Laden family have been the only planes allowed to fly in the two weeks after 9 11?)
Alyson
June 19, 2025 at 06:16
“Russia promised to protect Israel from Iran, and Iran from Israel.”
And Russia promised to respect the territorial integrity of Ukraine too.
Russian promises aren’t worth much…
Any evidence for the claim “Ukraine was for the purpose of weakening Russia and depleting its men and munitions.”?
There is plenty of evidence of this timeline, JK. The original agreement was between Kissinger, Iran, and Putin. I saw film of Kissinger explaining this plan to keep Israel safe. Netanyahu renegotiated it from time to time. His visits to Russia were detailed in the ToI. Many Israelis are of Russian origin. Victoria Nuland explained the plan for Ukraine to a Senate Committee and somewhere there is film of this. Her plan included the words ‘Fuck Europe’.
Europe is now in turmoil over this terrible disaster unfolding before our eyes. Alliances are in hope of damage limitation. Principles of integrity and rule of law are under intense strain. Many are angry. Most are distressed.
And Kazakhstan has just signed an “eternal” ‘strategic agreement’ with China.
Alyson
June 19, 2025 at 06:53
Forgive me Alyson but that is a very vague reply.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_claims_require_extraordinary_evidence
And a large transporter plane from China just arrived in Iran after crossing Kazakhstan.
Thank you Brian for clarifying that Russia has just signed an agreement not to support Iran. Russia departed Syria and took Assad with him. And Putin has offered sanctuary to Al Khameini.
JK redux:
– Any evidence for the claim “Ukraine was for the purpose of weakening Russia and depleting its men and munitions.”? […] Extraordinary_claims_require_extraordinary_evidence
RAND, the infamous, primary Pentagon-funded strategic think tank, the one that thought up Mutually Assured Destruction, published a document suggesting precisely that:
http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html
“Russian promises aren’t worth much…”
Probably more than any other country, although that’s not saying much.
On the subject of Russian assurances about _not_ invading Ukraine (https://web.archive.org/web/20220203093950/http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/67100), here’s a true story about a Ukrainian marine released from Russian captivity:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/20/ukrainian-marine-tells-on-russian-captivity-prisoner-of-war
Слава Україні!
As his niece Mary has explained, everything for Trump is about money. He says he’s waiting until the last second to decide whether the USA will bomb Iran. (He has already ordered everyone in Teheran to leave.) Well, world financial markets are at their most sensitive in the runup to 4pm Eastern time tomorrow, Friday, i.e. 9pm BST, the moment of triple witching. Note that some US markets are closed today, Thursday, because it is Juneteenth, the day to celebrate the 1865 proclamation abolishing slavery in the USA. (White supremacy then lasted another 100 years in some states.)
Exactly. So, until Freaky Friday, the next hours will feel like paradise for insider trading.
The Donald almost admitted to it. Said he “I want to be the only one to know”…
Craig Murray
@CraigMurrayOrg
I shall donate £100 to charity every time the BBC mentions that Israel has nuclear weapons and Iran does not.
Jun 18, 2025 · 10:23 PM UTC
You lad!
From a piece by Dennis Kucinich over at the Ron Paul site entitled “Tame the ‘Rising Lion’ Before it Eats Us!”
https://ronpaulinstitute.org/tame-the-rising-lion-before-it-eats-us/
“Israel’s government now defines freedom thusly: Freedom to commit genocide, freedom to starve a defenseless population, freedom to wage aggressive war, and freedom to posture and to lie about all of their inhuman actions before the entire world and to demand everyone agree or be smeared as “anti-semites.”
“America’s so-called defense of Israel’s freedom has been turned into a protection racket of such dimensions as to make the mafia blush.”
He argues USA should look after its interests not Netanyahu’s.
Excellent link. Mr Kucinch is right to highlight that the crux of the Trump administration’s involvement is one of “what did he know and when did he know it” If knowledge was granted well in advance of the illegal Israeli attack then it would mean that the president is so much duplicitous, not to say mendacious, that it is difficult to see him ever again being able to negotiate a serious treaty, with the conflicts between Russia and Ukraine and China and Taiwan being the salient flash points. If Trump was kept in the dark until the last minute it would mean that the most dependent client of the US was perpetrating a deception against the Trump administration, perhaps with the connivance of the state department and other American politicians.
A stray cat that was taken in by our household once vomited on our living room carpet and, to pile nausea upon nausea, a transparent worm was writhing in the cat barf. Let this serve as a microcosm of the late Israeli actions which ought to have been christened Rising Tapeworm, parasitic as the shitty little country is upon the US, as they are clearly conceived to make the lion vomit fire.
One alternative is that Trump is so fickle, not to say volatile – and here is violently unpredictable oscillations on the matter of trade tariffs lends some corroberation – that he himself knows not what he will be doing from one day to another, being guided not by principles but are an ad hoc matter depending on specific expediences. My view is that the US is near certain to attack Iran, in spite of the manifest uncertainty in Trump’s public pronouncements and that the orange man-baby occupying the White House is mad, bad and a danger to mankind
Note there isn’t a peep of criticism for this insane war of aggression from the neocon Democrats.
Their ire is focused instead on an anti-war, anti-genocide Muslim mayoral candidate in NYC.
So it now seems like Ali Khamenei has just missed the last hole on the course.
Vlad is still offering his services. He will soon be able to open in Moscow a museum of former resistance leaders.
The main question now is whether the Donald will be stupid enough to go along Netanyahu’s wildest dreams.
“I may do it, and I may not do it”. Words of a true leader. No wonder Putin calls him a friend!
We’ll find out…
Khamenei 86 years old and in ill-health. Tbh, he’s probably more dangerous as a martyr to his cause. And targeted killing of leaders is also against intl law. Not that rogue states like Israel or this US give a flying fcuk about intl law – well, except for when it bolsters their arguments.
I don’t see how Israel and the US can achieve their aims and objectives, if Iran stays united. For Iran has international law on their side. Worth remembering that Iran were in compliance with the JCPOA uranium enrichment limits – set at 3.67% for civilian use – that is, before Trump ripped-up the JCPOA. Even under Obama, the US had failed to honour its side of the deal by not lifting sanctions relief due to the Israeli lobbying of corrupt ‘bought’ US politicians, who in turn pressed Obama not to.
The NPT permits every signature the right to a peaceful nuclear program. Trump, by demanding Iran sign his ‘deal’ which demands zero enrichment “0%” as he put it on Truth social, is out of step with the NPT’s terms. Trump is behaving like some World cowboy, rewriting international law as he goes along. The EU leaders should disown him.
Ursula, Friedrich and co have not been shy about sharing their thoughts on this illegal war of aggression.
Have you not seen them?
@zoot
Germany is blinded by its own guilt into endless apologism for Israel. And Netanyahu shields himself and his state by readily accusing others’ critical of Israel, of being motivated by antisemitism.
Don’t misunderstand me, I think the holocaust was a uniquely dreadful moment in human history and Germany should question its historical role and the hatred that led to it..
But that shouldn’t give today’s Jewish state carte blanche to act with impunity.
Here’s an analogy as a question :
Do we give adults who were abused as children the right to act with legal impunity?
Answer : NO, WE MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT!
Why can’t the apologists for Israel get this fact?
It has nothing whatever to do with guilt.
@zoot
It’s partly historical guilt, certainly most of the centrists are terrified of having the anti-Semite accusation thrown at them.
For politicians on the far-right in Europe, many see a kindred spirit in Israel. Indeed Israel has been courting all the far-right parties, sans for the AfD – likely due to their history and prominent members who have direct senior Nazi ancestry, like the politically and intellectually impressive, Beatrix von Storch. A white supremacist etho-religious discriminatory state, as Israel is, is right up their street, so to speak.
We discussed before on here how certain German publishers who had their roots/origins in Nazi Germany, like Axel Springer SE, switched to supporting the Neocons and their defence of Israel long ago. They see the state of Israel as the last acceptable vestige of white rule colonialism, that Hitler so wished to emulate after admiring the British Raj, and they see Israel’s expansionist aims as a good thing.
Konrad Adenauer, the first chancellor of West Germany, explained German support for Israel in his memoir many decades ago as cynical whitewashing – purely intended to restore Germany’s standing with Washington, noting ‘the power of Jews in America should not be underestimated’. For Primo Levi it was ‘unprincipled political gamesmanship’ to rehabilitate Germany in the Cold War system and enable its leadership of Europe.
That remains the case, but look too at the family backgrounds of Von der Leyen, Merz, Baerbock et al. It is very natural for such people to identify with a profoundly racist settler colony and to dehumanise Arabs and Muslims. Those affinities are mirrored among British and French imperialists, who have enabled the Gaza Genocide to near equivalent degrees as Germany and are just as strongly in support of this illegal war of aggression on Iran.
@Goose – Thanks for referencing Von Storch. I will take a look at her. Different from Meloni except as the carrier of a torch passed down from the country’s major pre-WW2 and WW2 fascist party – different because she’s from a royal family and I doubt she’s great at winning votes from the masses.
Has organised Jewish power come across as somewhat divided in their attitude towards her, as they did for a time towards Elon Musk? Such a division may disappear. At one moment, the ADL was trying to hit Musk in his pocket, and he threatened to sue their arses off. The next moment, he hails Trump’s victory while performing a Nazi salute, and the ADL are saying nah, lay off him, Elon’s a great guy and whatever he did, it wasn’t a Nazi salute.
Trump says Iran is ‘defenceless’ , yet he wants to bomb them? How sick is that?
We got a taste with the leaked Signal conversations between Vance, Hegseth , Rubio and co about the attack on Yemenis, in which they discussed killing targeted individuals – along with a load of innocent bystanders – who happen to be near by. They were like giddy ten-year olds, playing with new war toys. To think these people then congratulated themselves before going for a nice lunch as their innocent victims lay bleeding out.
The callous depravity of western leaders is sickening; remote killing has become too easy. They make speeches demanding civility and compassion in our own societies then go do this. It’s Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde stuff, that leaders in the past would have faced the gallows over. We are ruled by brutal murderers, no better than the terrorists they denounce.
“The EU leaders should disown him”.
Very true – but of course they won’t.
I look forward to one day being able to read a book on the reasons for the EU’s and EU member states’ curious subservience to Israel’s various policies and actions. Something like Mearsheimer on the Israel lobby.
One thing is already painfully clear, however: no one (and this includes Russia and China) gives a s**t about the Palestinians and Iran and so won’t lift a finger to help them. There’s no upside in it for any of them.
My best guess on why the EU leadership is in lockstep…
I believe the Biden administration played a big role in picking the current EU Commission’s leadership. From a US perspective , the EU is seen as a vital interest of the US – European leaders being their key allies main trading partners. The CIA are obviously well-resourced and very capable, and the EU doesn’t have its own equivalent intel agency to prevent the US meddling extensively e.g. through corruption etc. Appointments like Russophobe, Kaja Kallas, are probably direct Biden administration choices through behind-the-scenes lobbying. The US compliant EU Commission has been a bit lost since Trump arrived back on the scene, but they are still in the ‘follow the US’s lead’ mode, that they were put in under the Biden administration.
If you think this idea fantastical and the US would never do this, as they are our ally?
Just recall how Angela Merkel’s name and mobile number was on a ‘monitored’ list alongside Assad’s and other US adversaries. And how Snowden revealed heavy spying from the US’s German embassy, caused a huge diplomatic row, that Merkel and Brazil’s then president, Dilma Rousseff, took to the UN.
US bugged Merkel’s phone from 2002 until 2013 : https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24690055
Kaja Kallas is a particularly bad appointment. She wears her hatred of Russia like a badge of honour.
Where is the EU’s peace initiative to end the Ukraine war?
Answer: There isn’t one because von der Leyen and Kallas are in charge.
As far as I know, Kallas doesn’t even have a line of communication with Moscow. They are just asking Washington to brief them on what Trump and Putin discussed.
That is a dangerous abdication of responsibility, that is putting all European citizens in danger. Kallas is behaving like a stroppy teenager, when we need a skilled, seasoned diplomat to bang heads together and bring about peace.
“One thing is already painfully clear, however: no one (and this includes Russia and China) gives a s**t about the Palestinians and Iran and so won’t lift a finger to help them. There’s no upside in it for any of them.”
There is a hell of a lot of upside in China preventing Iran going the way of Libya. Why do you think they have just spent millions of dollars in building a rail link to Iran? It’s not because they are all a bunch of trainspotters, that’s for sure. Ditto Russia, who would lose access to ports on the Indian Ocean.
@Bayard
I remain optimistic Iran will get through this and won’t end up like Libya. Netanyahu has done this on impulsive instinct after pestering every US president for permission. If Iran’s society stay united and don’t fight among themselves, the US and Israel will look like the bad guys by bombing without an end game.
The American people don’t want to go to war for Israel, either. Massive protests may erupt in the US and UK, Europe – democracy is already fragile because of mistrust in elites. Americans speak English, they know an injustice when they see one, despite the thickly layered media propaganda they are subjected to.
If Trump, Vance et al have any sense , they’lll walk this back by doing a fair JCPOA terms deal. Nothing good can come for the US from plainly unjust military action for Netanyahu.
Bayard
I agree.
For Russia to lose one State ( Syria ) is careless – to lose two etc?
The railway is to avoid the US and others doing a Yemeni in the future.
Bad when Yemenis do it – all above board when the US does it.
China relies heavily on Iranian oil/gas too.
What people forget is that all these attacks and Proxy Wars are to either disrupt or prevent the BRICS becoming a bigger threat to Uncle Sam.
BRICS : Make Trade Not War.
US and its poodles: Make War and War.
Peace through Strength ( War).
A wonderful oxymoron from the mouth of a Moron.
Yeah, @ Felix – what’s the reasoning behind saying China will look the other way?
As for Russia, they did nothing to help Armenia when Armenians were handed a nakba by Zionist-armed Azerbaijani forces, some of whom had the attitude of “let’s finish what we started in 1915”. This was probably because they weren’t in a position to.
I think for Russia there’s a big difference according to whether the USA involves itself openly, massively, directly in the war against Iran or not. If the US uses nukes, Russia will get involved. They will have to. There’s also the possibility that the US won’t get involved but the Zionists will use nukes under their own flag, in which scenario Russia will probably get involved but it’s an unlikely scenario.
Biologicals and chemicals are also possible. Not directly to do with preventing the enrichment of uranium, but nor essentially is this war to do with that.
It’s hard to see what happens next – much harder than with Afghanistan and Syria.
Felix, I can confirm.
You’re very sadly right in your assessment of alleged supports for Palestinians and/or Iranians. They’re only in it for the money.
“They’re only in it for the money.”
Even by that metric, Russia and China have a very strong interest in Iran’s survival in its present form.
Of course not.
Not only will the price of oil go skyrocketing in case of a total shutdown of Iran’s refineries (good for Russian exports), but the devastation of Iranian infrastructures will also open a considerable reconstruction market (good for China and its Silk Road endeavors).
I think that’s called the “Broken window fallacy”.
The Russians and Chinese may not care about the Palestinians much more than our governments do. But do we really believe that Russia, Iran and even the Houtis somehow have independently found how to make advanced, even hypersonic, missiles? These things need a lot of individual very advanced components and there’s one obvious place those could be coming from. It all looks like badge engineering and now we hear rumours of shiploads (and/or train loads?) of missiles setting off from China.
There are two reasons I can see for our governments and media glossing over this. Firstly, that it’s a lot easier to get populations to go along with a war that’s presented as being against a weak, easily defeated opponent than that’s against a opponent backed by the Workshop of the World. Secondly, that there would be a kneejerk demand for sanctions on China which, given where all our tat is made, would hurt us more than them.
If Iran can keep up its missile bombardment for a few more weeks to embed a sense of vulnerability in Israelis, can then keep a government that’s not a Western poodle and finally can credibly be seen to be rearming, Israel is finished. Companies won’t invest and its residents who imagined a cushy life under the Iron Dome/Colander but won’t even be able to insure their property against war damage will leave. Iranian nuclear weapons would only be the cherry on the top.
An 815 word editorial in today’s “Global Times” (China) offers the most succinct analysis and solution that I have read so far.
It points out that the Iran nuclear issue has been dragging on for twenty years but “Diplomatic means regarding the Iranian nuclear issue have not been exhausted, and a peaceful resolution is still possible”.
It correctly identifies USA as the biggest problem in achieving a peaceful resolution. “From Afghanistan to Iraq, history has long proven that US military interventions have never brought peace. Instead, they have left devastation and sown the seeds of hatred, even deeply harming American society. According to the Costs of War project by Brown University, since 2001, the so-called US “war on terror” has claimed over 800,000 lives, displaced more than 38 million people, and cost over $8 trillion”.
Its recommendation makes political common – sense. The USA should “adopt an objective and impartial stance take due responsibility, and play a positive and constructive role in de-escalating tensions and preventing the conflict from further expanding”.
Escalation is self – evidently not the answer, but will Trump listen to the voice of reason?
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202506/1336473.shtml
Iran’s missiles are wildly inaccurate – Israel’s Defence ministry
Supreme leader personally gave the order to hit hospital – Israel Defence minster, Israel Katz
It’d be amusing were it not so serious. Which is it?
Do the guardian’s reporters or the BBC read their own output?
“Supreme leader personally gave the order to hit hospital – Israel Defence minster, Israel Katz”
Goose.
What goes around comes around – maybe there was Zionist base underneath it – the British MSM have reported the hospital hit, non-stop today.
Netanyahu on Sky news now, saying its terrible targeting a hospital and civilians – and he has the chutzpah to say it with a straight face.
@RoS
I agree on the hypocrisy point, after they’ve leveled all Gaza’s hospitals using the excuse of them being KHAMAS!!! command and control centers. Hamas must have more ‘command and control’ centers then the US, Russian and Chinese armed forces combined, if we are to believe those Israeli claims.
My main point though, was on the supposed pin-point accuracy. The idea, Iran’s missiles are suddenly so accurate that an individual building can be hit by order of the supreme leader -who probably isn’t even involved in fine-grained military targeting decisions. When we’ve been told the precise opposite up to this point.
Goose.
I get your point, see my 14.23 comment.
They at least reported that the hospital wasn’t the target, on tonight’s BBC 1 news at six.
They did however, repeat the claim that Iran had rejected Trump’s ‘deal’ or ‘offer’ though. Which is not correct. Trump gave Iran an ultimatum; telling them to agree to zero enrichment i.e., having no civilian nuclear program. Iran rightly rejected this and asserted their rights under the JCPOA and NPT.
Outrageous that some journalists and politicians in the West are pretending Trump is negotiating in good faith, and not simply making wholly unreasonable demands.
I thought you never read the evil MSM.
Who cares if they contradict themselves constantly. What did you expect. Funny how die-hard Britons still think in 2025 that the UK has its say in Washington, and that the BBC is the main global news network.
Hope springs eternal…
Oh dear.
“Israel is yelling “hospital!” to distract from the real headline – the actual targets. Iran didn’t strike Soroka Hospital directly, it hit IDF’s C4I & cyber ops HQ in Gav-Yam tech park, Be’er Sheva:
Digital command & C4ISR systems
Thousands of troops stationed
Just 1–2 km from the hospital, not “far,” not “accidental,” not “random.”
The military intelligence nerve center was the real target.
Soroka’s damage? Collateral from a strike on an active war machine.
If you set up a military base next to a hospital, don’t act shocked when the windows rattle.”
Hit a nerve? You bet! Deleted reply…
Meanwhile, look at the video footage. There’s been a mistake, it happens, no reason to deny it. Or to pretend that what happened in Gaza also happens on the other side…
“Meanwhile, look at the video footage”
What video footage? You watched it, where’s the link?
Yeah, I thought there wasn’t any.
What have the effects of the attack been on Zionist cyber capability?
Interesting that PressTV.ir and TasnimNews.com are functioning well, even if IRNA.ir has now been taken down. Although perhaps work at that Zionist cyber facility in Beersheba was focused on military comms?
Maybe, Starmer and Lammy are terrified because they see a major source of income being impacted if the killing stops..
Why does the British establishment so blindly follow the genocidal Israel ? Introducing, Sir Trevor Chinn: The Tycoon Who Hijacked British Democracy for Israel. Labour and Conservative politicians, and other colours, have been pocketing their pieces of Zionist silver for years.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/trevor-chinn-british-politics-israel/290044/
Meanwhile, North of the border the Zionists have been cultivating the Scots for generations. The Caledonian Cousinhood: How the Zionist Movement Embedded Itself in Scottish Life. A relatively small number of elite families have been, and still are, funding Zionism.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/cousinhood-zionism-scotland/290025/
Evidence, if needed, that peace is impossible whilst these people infest our countries.
Netanyahu has banned Israeli’s from fleeing Israel – but the Zio-Monsters are using boats to flee to Cyrus – a kind of genocide flotilla – the Cypriots are fools, to allow the Brits to use their land as a staging post to attack Palestine and Iran – now they’ll see many Zionists land-off their boats, maybe they’ll steal the Cypriots lands as well – a Cypriot Nakba.
https://nitter.poast.org/MaxBlumenthal/status/1935741140055024077#m
He doesn’t seem to have been very successful then.
Some are sailing from Palestine all the way to Greece.
Is there any info on the influx of Zionists into Palestine from outside it, e.g. from Britain? Perhaps not so many are needed as in 1967 and 1973.
Most of what Zionists say about the relationship between their colony in Palestine and “the diaspora” is lies, but the colonial project’s branding is certainly managed and the way it is managed can change and in any case won’t be allowed to be stuck in the doldrums.
On Cyprus, I’ve always suspected that Zionists have a soft spot for Turkey because of what Turkish and Turkish Cypriot forces did on Cyprus in 1974 – capturing more than a third of the island in which ~80% of the population were Greeks whom they terrorised into fleeing.
This explosion on Cyprus in 2011
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelos_Florakis_Naval_Base_explosion
had major economic (including financial) repercussions, and the relationship between the repercussions and the explosion may have been somewhat different from what is usually supposed.
I referred earlier in this thread to the purchases by Israelis, or Jews using Russian or French or other passports, of large tracts of thousands of acres of land and luxury apartments in the North of Cyprus. People who had lived in rural communities were complaining in the press they were being thrown off their land there in 2023. Turkey was concerned that Israel already claimed parts of Turkey for their Greater Israel project.
Southern Cyprus is mostly Brits on holidays and used to be a lovely posting for British army families growing up. Numbers of overseas postings were steadily reduced and army personnel became less family orientated.
History repeating itself after 100 years. This is exactly what Zionists were doing in British Palestine. Buy land and throw the tenants off. Do these lunatics want to start a war with Turkey as well?
The Zionists and their hospitals.
“The Ichilov hospital is a military base in disguise with underground military facilities and tunnels to IDF military headquarters in 450m radius of hospital.”
https://nitter.poast.org/MaxBlumenthal/status/1935731976041844745#m
Well yes, that’s why the Israeli government was so sure that Hamas was hiding below Gaza’s hospitals, because that’s what they would have done in their place.
What was that saying? Every western accusation is a confession…
Cf. the Zionist lie about how the removal of their colonial regime would mean killing all the Jews there.
No Iranians or Palestinians want to kill all the Jews, either in Palestine or anywhere else. There’s no longer any Confederacy, French Algeria, or Rhodesia on the map. Those who supported such vile regimes weren’t all killed, and nobody wanted them to be.
WHEREAS…
…a poll among Israeli Jews found that a large proportion of those polled favoured murdering everyone in every city that the Zionists conquer, biblical style, à la Jericho.
There is a problem with Christian and Muslim believers, most of whom are good, honourable, humanitarian people, following a book in which a Jewish tribal god is described as the one creator God and as (for a time) having had a particular people as his “chosen” group – a people to whom he promised other people’s land and whom he approves of when they commit genocide.
Genocide is wrong.
So let’s see if I’ve got this right:
Russia/Iran bombs hospital in Ukraine/Israel = It was hiding a secret ‘Ukranazi/Zionazi’ military base = Ukraine/Israel’s fault.
Israel bombs hospital in Gaza = It was hiding a secret Hamas military base = Israel’s fault.
All war is hell, but the Zionists are genocidal barbarians.
Zionists storming a hospital on the West Bank to murder patients:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35i6bmdou9E (30 Jan 2024)
FInd me a film of Russian, Ukrainian, Iranian, or Palestinian soldiers ever doing anything like that.
‘FInd me a film’, Hold on, let me call the white helmets and the BBC.
In terms of logic, there’s certainly plenty of room for improvement.
And what’s even worse is the total lack of consideration for Common Article 1 of the Geneva Conventions. Only Craig seems to be interested in it.
Speaking of Geneva, no later than tomorrow the Foreign Ministers of Germany, France, Britain and the EU will be there to meet with Iran, for preliminary negotiations about a diplomatic outcome.
@Pears Morgaine
Not to condone Russia’s attacks(I want the war to end) but, speaking relatively, if Russia had done as much damage in Ukraine as Israel has in Gaza, there’d be millions of dead Ukrainian citizens. Thankfully there aren’t.
Every day there are news reports of 58 dead, 72 dead, 67 dead… in Gaza. Every day it’s people queuing for something to eat getting shot at and subjected to IDF mortar or tank fire, or aerial bombardment. What Israel are doing in Gaza is a mindless slaughter with total impunity.
The really sick thing is, some of the people who are maiming and turning kids into orphans, may be Brits or Americans, serving in the IDF; people who’ll merrily return home, without somuch as being pestered at customs. If they’d fought anywhere else in the Muslim world, they’d be taken straight for questioning. That’s the real two-tier justice.
Pears Morgaine
I’ve some terrible news for all the people who think you can have politer politics and politer wars.
If the Orange Oaf obeys his money provider’s orders all this may seem small in comparison.
Nukes have no conscience.
What’s troubling the West is who has got them and who might fire them?
If it gets out of hand then even the mouthy ones in the MSM may be in danger of actually suffering for their weakly ( sorry – strongly ) held salaried beliefs and could end up with a useless pile of dust which they used to call ‘ Home’ – if they are around to see the evidence of course.
That’ s The Lyndsey Graham delusion/illusion.
Unless he really believes he is going to Heaven in a Blazing Chariot anyway?
Much more to come as I hear China is delivering weapons to Iran.
All will unfold once Trump does his Show and Tell to the US people.
“Israel bombs hospital in Gaza = It was hiding a secret Hamas military base = Israel’s fault.”
How many bridges have you bought now?
“BBC Verify Live: How we’re authenticating footage after Israel hospital is hit”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c7841erdxl7t
What a strange way of writing “We’re a hasbara unit, mostly carrying host-country passports”.
I suppose they did the same in Gaza. No?
Have you seen/heard any mainstream UK media mention “Israel’s illegal, unprovoked attack”?
The UK MoD and FCDO et al official Twitter/X pages, and the BBC made it obligatory to preface anything about Ukraine, with Russia’s “illegal, unprovoked….but now politicians and media use no such language to describe what Israel did, despite it being perfectly appropriate.
This is what happens in a world with no honesty, objectivity and seemingly no international law beyond ‘might is right’. Right or wrong doesn’t exist, it’s just pick our side.
“Have you seen/heard any mainstream UK media mention “Israel’s illegal, unprovoked attack”?”
As I explained upthread, they do mention it, they just spell the words differently. Perhaps it’s something to do with having to translate them from Hebrew.
Maybe that’s what it will take – and I wouldn’t put it past Trump to use such a weapon – Netanyahu’s government has contacted Russia to tell them that they’ll do their best not to kill any Russians working at Fordow – sounds like at strike is on the cards.
“The U.S. has not ruled out “using tactical nuclear weapons” to strike Iran’s Fordow nuclear site – Fox News”
Given that American intentions are being flagged up well in advance (and that there is not a behind the scenes deal as per the Iranian strikes on an American base in Iraq following the assassination of General Soleimani which would allow American on the his occasion to save face by hitting some agreed targets in Iran which would then be followed by nuclear negoations overseen by Russia) my hope is that if the situation is as seen then China considers deploying its airforce to Iran and make clear to the Americans that it will defend Iran’s sovereign airspace from further aggression. This would then leave the Americans with a choice, which they may be reckless enough to take.
Sorry if that post is convoluted. Have had a long day. Apologies.
Someone has thrown a grenade at the Norwegian ambassador’s residence in Tel Aviv. It exploded, but no-one was injured.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/explosion-norways-ambassador-residence-tel-aviv-no-injured-says-foreign-ministry-2025-06-19/
The Norwegian sovereign wealth fund (oil fund), which is the world’s biggest, sold all its shares in an Occupation company last month.
https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/society-equity/norway-wealth-fund-divests-israels-paz-retail-energy-due-west-bank-activities-2025-05-11/
Whether the pin of the grenade had “divest and die” or “price tag” written on it has not been reported.
Friends, please support me in a campaign of writing letters to politicians. Netanyahu has just provided the best possible reason for an arms embargo against Israel, by bombing nuclear reactors.
The news has repeatedly mentioned Israel bombing Iran’s enrichment facilities, and the Arak reactor which hasn’t been completed let alone fuelled. But Israel has also bombed the Isfahan site. Isfahan has research reactors that have been used for years; see about the tenth paragraph down in this article in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists:
https://thebulletin.org/2025/06/israel-claims-it-damaged-irans-natanz-nuclear-facility-significantly-but-questions-remain/
– “The IAEA also said the Isfahan nuclear complex had not been targeted, contradicting reports of explosions near the site. The Isfahan Nuclear Technology Center, located 340 kilometers south of Tehran, hosts nuclear research reactors, a uranium conversion plant, and a fuel production plant, among other facilities. On Friday evening, the IDF confirmed that it also targeted the Isfahan complex, but offered no evidence.”
This was beyond reckless; bombing a reactor that has been used is far, far worse than bombing enrichment facilities. Uranium, whether natural, enriched or depleted, is chemically poisonous but barely radioactive. But when used in a nuclear reactor it produces fission products and actinides, the same radioactive isotopes as nuclear fallout, but in far greater quantities. Nuclear warheads contain just kilos of nuclear fuel, whereas reactor are loaded with tonnes – hundreds or a thousand times as much – and thus produce fallout isotopes in proportionally greater quantities. These isotopes normally remain in the reactor vessel until disposal, but not if some lunatic bombs it.
In short, bombing a reactor that has ever been operational can release as much fallout as an entire nuclear war.
Netanyahu has thus proven that he has NO respect for human life, not even his own. He must be insane or past caring. If radiation has leaked from Isfahan, it’ll poison the world’s Jews just as much as it poisons anyone else.
I know that people from all over the world visit this site. From my own experience I know that writing to our ‘representatives’ induces a sense of futility, but presumably they’ll value not getting cancer themselves over and above whatever influence Israel has on them. Please write to them and make them understand – reactors are big, and if they have been used (as the ones at Isfahan have), they contain all the same stuff as nuclear fallout, and lots of it. In Britain, you can Write To Them here:
http://www.writetothem.com
ISRAEL MUST BE STOPPED. ARMS EMBARGO NOW. SPREAD THE WORD.
Judging news report it seems that Grossi the IAEA chief is divulging sensitive information to encourage Israel completely against the inspection charter.
If Trump joins in then watch out as China will make a move against Taiwan. WW3 is already upon us.
Hi Clark… Will Do
I have and do write to my MP about Palestine (and staying out of Israel’s war with Iran). Good luck with your campaign.
If you get your news from social media you’ll appreciate that the USA is making every effort to protect your privacy and ensure free speech is kept alive.
For example: Four exec bozos from Palantir, Meta and OpenAI donning their GI Joe gimp suits.
https://thegrayzone.com/2025/06/18/palantir-execs-appointed-colonels/
Stevie Boy
The question is with internet information and dis- information, is whether it is the FOG of War of the ETHER of war?
Nice to know that Kamala Harris is still alive.
‘ Iran is a threat to the US ‘
No Kamala, not in the US at all but a long way away in a place you couldn’t point to on a globe.
She’ll soon burst into a chorus of ‘ The Sun’ll Come Out Tomorrow once it cost $ 10 Dollars a gallon
in the ironically titled ‘ Land of the Free.’
And I thought the European leaders were stupid.
Meanwhile the conflict is ongoing.
As it is in Ukraine and the much neglected other proxy- ish war in Sudan and of course Gaza.
A few scuttled big ships in The Straits of Hormuz may temper minds, as that is not about people’s lives.
That is about losing money and global inflation.
Saw this yesterday : If you are so critical of the US, why do you use the internet we invented?
Aside from the fact it’s stupid to be so unthinkingly loyal you back any wrongheaded thing your government does. It’s not even correct.
The hidden(from the user) data transfer via the protocol stack, that makes up the 7-layer OSI eg., things like TCP/IP was developed at UC Berkeley, in the US. But…Hypertext Markup Language(HTML) – the standard markup language for documents designed to be displayed in web browsers, URLs and http, were all invented by a Brit, Tim Berners-Lee. So today’s internet can be thought of as a kinda joint UK-US collaboration.
Sir Tim Berners-Lee seems to be a good bloke too. He’s anti -mass surveillance and favours the introduction a so-called Digital Bill of Rights , ensuring online rights.
Exactly. Once again the true SPECIAL relationship.
And some people think the British Empire is over? WRONG. It’s stronger than ever. And out of the Five Eyes, Britain has the one who sees most clearly.
And who needs a constitution when we already have a Bill of Rights?
Could this be China picking a side? in this case Iran’s -and could it mean some sort of open Chinese participation – or is it just an idle threat, to persuade Trump to back-off in the conflict.
“Member of Chinese Communist Party:
If countries join the War alongside Israel, don’t exclude the possibility that Major Countries would join Iran”
https://nitter.poast.org/IranObserver0/status/1936038500614521313#m