Gould-Werritty: A Real Conspiracy, Not a Theory

by craig on November 25, 2011 1:33 am in Uncategorized

There is a huge government cover-up in progress over the Werritty connection to Mossad and the role of British Ambassador to Israel Matthew Gould, and their neo-con plan to start a war with Iran.

Yesterday at 22.15pm I submitted by email a Freedom of Information request for:

All communications in either direction ever made between Matthew Gould and Adam Werritty, specifically including communications made outside government systems.

At 23.31pm I was astonished to get a reply from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office. The request was refused as it was

“likely to exceed the cost limit”.

Now it is plainly nonsense that to gather correspondence between two named individuals would be too expensive. They could just ask Gould.

And a reply at nearly midnight? The Freedom of Information team in the FCO is not a 24 hour unit. Plainly not only are they hiding the Gould/Werritty correspondence, they are primed and on alert for this cover-up operation.

Even more blatant was the obstruction of MP Paul Flynn, when he attempted to question Cabinet Secretary Gus O’Donnell on the Gould-Werritty connection at the House of Commons Public Administration Committee. These are the minutes: anybody who believes in democracy should feel their blood boil as you read them:

Publc Admininstration Committee 24/11/2011

Q<369> Paul Flynn: Okay. Matthew Gould has been the subject of a very serious complaint from two of my constituents, Pippa Bartolotti and Joyce Giblin. When they were briefly imprisoned in Israel, they met the ambassador, and they strongly believe—it is nothing to do with this case at all—that he was serving the interest of the Israeli Government, and not the interests of two British citizens. This has been the subject of correspondence.

In your report, you suggest that there were two meetings between the ambassador and Werritty and Liam Fox. Questions and letters have proved that, in fact, six such meetings took place. There are a number of issues around this. I do not normally fall for conspiracy theories, but the ambassador has proclaimed himself to be a Zionist and he has previously served in Iran, in the service. Werritty is a self-proclaimed—

Robert Halfon: Point of order, Chairman. What is the point of this?

Paul Flynn:> Let me get to it. Werritty is a self-proclaimed expert on Iran.

Chair:> I have to take a point of order.

Robert Halfon:> Mr Flynn is implying that the British ambassador to Israel is working for a foreign power, which is out of order.

Paul Flynn:> I quote the Daily Mail: “Mr Werritty is a self-proclaimed expert on Iran and has made several visits. He has also met senior Israeli officials, leading to accusations”—not from me, from the Daily Mail—“that he was close to the country’s secret service, Mossad.” There may be nothing in that, but that appeared in a national newspaper.

Chair:> I am going to rule on a point of order. Mr Flynn has made it clear that there may be nothing in these allegations, but it is important to have put it on the record. Be careful how you phrase questions.

Paul Flynn:> Indeed. The two worst decisions taken by Parliament in my 25 years were the invasion of Iraq—joining Bush’s war in Iraq—and the invasion of Helmand province. We know now that there were things going on in the background while that built up to these mistakes. The charge in this case is that Werritty was the servant of neo-con people in America, who take an aggressive view on Iran. They want to foment a war in Iran in the same way as in the early years, there was another—

Chair:> Order. I must ask you to move to a question that is relevant to the inquiry.

Q<370> Paul Flynn:> Okay. The question is, are you satisfied that you missed out on the extra four meetings that took place, and does this not mean that those meetings should have been investigated because of the nature of Mr Werritty’s interests?

Sir Gus O’Donnell:> I think if you look at some of those meetings, some people are referring to meetings that took place before the election.

Q<371> Paul Flynn:> Indeed, which is even more worrying.

Sir Gus O’Donnell:> I am afraid they were not the subject—what members of the Opposition do is not something that the Cabinet Secretary should look into. It is not relevant.

But these meetings were held—

Chair:> Mr Flynn, would you let him answer please?

Sir Gus O’Donnell:> I really do not think that was within my context, because they were not Ministers of the Government and what they were up to was not something I should get into at all.

Chair:> Final question, Mr Flynn.

Q<372> Paul Flynn:> No, it is not a final question. I am not going to be silenced by you, Chairman; I have important things to raise. I have stayed silent throughout this meeting so far.

You state in the report—on the meeting held between Gould, Fox and Werritty, on 6 February, in Tel Aviv—that there was a general discussion of international affairs over a private dinner with senior Israelis. The UK ambassador was present. Are you following the line taken by the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government who says that he can eat with lobbyists or people applying to his Department because, on occasions, he eats privately, and on other occasions he eats ministerially? Are you accepting the idea? It is possibly a source of great national interest—the eating habits of their Secretary of State. It appears that he might well have a number of stomachs, it has been suggested, if he can divide his time this way. It does seem to be a way of getting round the ministerial code, if people can announce that what they are doing is private rather than ministerial.

Sir Gus O’Donnell:> The important point here was that, when the Secretary of State had that meeting, he had an official with him—namely, in this case, the ambassador. That is very important, and I should stress that I would expect our ambassador in Israel to have contact with Mossad. That will be part of his job. It is totally natural, and I do not think that you should infer anything from that about the individual’s biases. That is what ambassadors do. Our ambassador in Pakistan will have exactly the same set of wide contacts.

Q<373> Paul Flynn:> I have good reason, as I said, from constituency matters, to be unhappy about the ambassador. Other criticisms have been made about the ambassador; he is unique in some ways in the role he is performing. There have been suggestions that he is too close to a foreign power.

Robert Halfon:> On a point of order, Chair, this is not about the ambassador to Israel. This is supposed to be about the Werritty affair.

Paul Flynn:> It is absolutely crucial to this report. If neo-cons such as yourself, Robert, are plotting a war in Iran, we should know about it.

Chair:> Order. I think the line of questioning is very involved. I have given you quite a lot of time, Mr Flynn. If you have further inquiries to make of this, they could be pursued in correspondence. May I ask you to ask one final question before we move on?

Sir Gus O’Donnell:> One thing I would stress: we are talking about the ambassador and I think he has a right of reply. Mr Chairman, I know there is an interesting question of words regarding Head of the Civil Service versus Head of the Home Civil Service, but this is the Diplomatic Service, not the Civil Service.

Q<374> Chair:> So he is not in your jurisdiction at all.

Sir Gus O’Donnell:> No.

Q<375> Paul Flynn:> But you are happy that your report is final; it does not need to go the manager it would have gone to originally, and that is the end of the affair. Is that your view?

Sir Gus O’Donnell:> As I said, some issues arose where I wanted to be sure that what the Secretary of State was doing had been discussed with the Foreign Secretary. I felt reassured by what the Foreign Secretary told me.

Q<376> Chair:> I think what Mr Flynn is asking is that your report and the affair raise other issues, but you are saying that that does not fall within the remit of your report and that, indeed, the conduct of an ambassador does not fall within your remit at all.

Sir Gus O’Donnell:> That is absolutely correct.

Paul Flynn:> The charge laid by Lord Turnbull in his evidence with regard to Dr Fox and the ministerial code was his failure to observe collective responsibility, in that case about Sri Lanka. Isn’t the same charge there about our policies to Iran and Israel?

Chair:> We have dealt with that, Mr Flynn.

Paul Flynn:> We haven’t dealt with it as far as it applies—

Chair:> Mr Flynn, we are moving on.

Paul Flynn:> You may well move on, but I remain very unhappy about the fact that you will not allow me to finish the questioning I wanted to give on a matter of great importance.

It is shocking but true that Robert Halfon MP, who disrupted Flynn with repeated points of order, receives funding from precisely the same Israeli sources as Werritty, and in particular from Mr Poju Zabludowicz. He also formerly had a full time paid job as Political Director of the Conservative Friends of Israel.

But despite the evasiveness of O’Donnell and the obstruction of paid zionist puppet Halfon, O’Donnell confirms vital parts of my investigation. In particular he agrees that the Fox-Werritty-Gould “private dinner” in Tel Aviv was with Mossad, and that Gould met Werritty many times more than the twice that O’Donnell listed in his “investigation” into this affair.

Of the six meetings of Fox-Gould-Werritty together which I discovered, five were while Fox was Secretary of State for Defence. Only one was while Fox was in opposition. But O’Donnell has now let the cat much further out of the bag, with the astonishing admission to Paul Flynn’s above questioning that Gould, Fox and Werritty held “meetings that took place before the election.” He also refers to “some of those meetings” as being before the election. Both are plainly in the plural.

It is now evident that not only did Fox, Gould and Werritty have at least five meetings while Fox was in power – with never another British official present – they had several meetings while Fox was shadow Foreign Secretary. O’Donnell is right that what Fox and Werritty were up to in opposition is not his concern. But what Gould was doing with them – a senior official – most definitely is.

A senior British diplomat cannot just hold a series of meetings with the opposition shadow Defence Secretary and a paid zionist lobbyist. What on earth was happening?

The absolutely astonishing cover-up and lack of honesty from the government about the Fox-Gould-Werritty relationship is being maintained with cast-iron resolve. Not only is Gould a self-declared fervent zionist, he was born in the same year as Chancellor George Osborne and attended the same private school – St Paul’s. At least some of the time he was meeting Fox and Werrity while they were in opposition, Gould was Private Secretary to New Labour Foreign Secretary David Milliband. That opens up the question of whether David Milliband, another fervent zionist, was part of the discussions with Mossad and US neo-cons on how to engineer war with Iran, for which Werritty was the conduit.

That would help explain the completeness of the cover-up. The government appears able with total impunity to refuse to answer MPs’ questions on Gould/Fox/Werritty, and they will not respond to Freedom of Information requests. It is now proven without doubt that O’Donnell lied blatantly about the number of Gould-Fox-Werritty meetings, and that Mossad was involved. And yet every single British mainstream media outlet still refuses to mention it.

I know from a mole that the plot involves a plan to attack Iran. For the cover-up to be so blatant and yet so comprehensively maintained, the secret at the heart of this conspiracy must be great, and those complicit must include a very large swathe of the British political and media establishment.

UPDATE: access to this blog is now blocked from FCO and Cabinet Office terminals. Very wise – truth can be contagious.

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211 Comments

  1. The “likely to exceed the cost limit” is the usual answer. The only solution is to keep asking, hoping they won’t destroy the correspondance. Maybe they already did.

  2. Sophia,

    Thanks but I have done plenty of requests before, and never had that answer. And indeed never had any answer in less than two weeks, let alone immediately and after 11pm.

  3. Knowing what we know about the Iraq war now, this story should mobilise. However, there is inertia created in my opinion by its absence from the mainstream media.

    As long as the mainstream don’t publish the story, it won’t mobilise.

    It’s interesting in a way because it reveals the control these media have on the public.

  4. Breach the costs limit indeed. It’s not as if pretty much every email client has ways and means of searching for emails is it?

    But many props for getting a FoIA response in an hour and a quarter, albeit a refusal. Quickest I’ve ever heard of anywhere.

    I presume you know that you’re mentioned in the latest Private Eye over this issue? Doesn’t quite count as ‘mainstream media’ but at least it’s a start.

  5. Craig,

    Good one. Keep digging on this and don’t let the issue die. If it weren’t for the total farce that was the lead up to Iraq, we might have discounted these meetings and connections as peripheral and part of the usual mess of lobbyists trying to get heard. Werrity could be discounted as quite mad, visiting Iran on private trips and supporting the opposition.
    But no – Iraq showed us that these lunatics can and do have influence with the most terrible consequences. Diplomacy and defense can never be completely transparent. There are of course state secrets and meetings that can’t be public. But when those meetings fly in the face of stated foreign policy and national interest they are not protected. They are traitorous.

  6. Good one. Keep digging on this and don’t let the issue die. If it weren’t for the total farce that was the lead up to Iraq, we might have discounted these meetings and connections as peripheral and part of the usual mess of lobbyists trying to get heard. Werrity could be discounted as quite mad, visiting Iran on private trips and supporting the opposition.
    But no – Iraq showed us that these lunatics can and do have influence with the most terrible consequences. Diplomacy and defense can never be completely transparent. There are of course state secrets and meetings that can’t be public. But when those meetings fly in the face of stated foreign policy and national interest they are not protected. They are traitorous.

  7. Is it worth re-submitting the request, but reducing its scope, to call their bluff on the ‘cost’? For example, you could ask for all communications within a limited time period, and if that’s refused try again for an even shorter time period, until you get down to a single day – then if they ever respond properly, you (or someone else) can try again for another day or month or whatever. Alternatively, you could start by asking for communications within government systems, and then ask for communications by email outside government systems, and then phone calls and so on.
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    I don’t know if there’s any right of appeal against these ‘cost’-based refusals, but if not, reducing the scope of the request to the point that such a refusal is plainly preposterous might be a useful approach.

  8. It’s quite possible that Gus O’Donnell is not aware of more than one meeting before the election but spoke of ‘meetings’ to distract Mr Flynn from the point that five of the six known meetings took place after the election and yet he only recorded two in his report. It’s a pity Mr Flynn didn’t follow up on that. Why did you not mention the three extra meetings, Sir [Au]gus[tine]?

  9. Talking about democracy – why were my comments deleted twice? Am I banned??

  10. Very interesting. And scary. Escobar thinks the Syrian meddling is the first step, the beginning of the war that’s on already. It makes sense from their point of view – Hezbollah must be hampered, etc. Britain, like Canada (where I’m from) should be restraining all this stuff, not actively encouraging. Hell. Glad I’ve got you on RSS Craig.

  11. Dick the Prick

    25 Nov, 2011 - 7:37 am

    Private Eye are running with it now so more publicity – the timing of your response seems highly bullshit and an awfully quick calculation.

  12. Keep digging, Craig!

  13. Yes keep on keeping on Craig. A cover up if ever there was one. Gould is a dangerous latent would-be killer of humans.
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    Latest update from PSC text version.
    http://www.palestinecampaign.org/index7b.asp?m_id=1&l1_id=4&l2_id=106&Content_ID=2271&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=PSC+update%3A+this+Saturday+-+BDS+Day+of+Action&utm_source=YMLP&utm_term=For+the+full+text+only
    .

  14. I can’t help thinking we’re missing something in this story in that Werritty visited Iran a number of times. Surely, if he were linked to anti-Iran groups in the UK, as well as to Israel, he was putting himself in serious danger (he has no dip. immunity). The Iranians certainly have their own spies in Israel and the UK. Now, I wonder what he was doing there? Meeting anti-regime elements? Could he be such a fool? Not very likely.

  15. James Chater

    25 Nov, 2011 - 8:17 am

    You could try asking them to explain what is their “cost” basis, i.e. what are their criteria? This will tie them down.

  16. Good one, Craig. And if Paul Flynn’s reading this, 10/10 for not taking any crap: “If neo-cons such as yourself, Robert, are plotting a war in Iran, we should know about it.”
    No question.
    Keep digging.

  17. Guess Flynn’s constituent must be this Pippa Bartolotti;

    http://pippabartolotti.blogspot.com/
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    She’s got a few questions, too.

  18. Halfon receives donations from many sources including
    Caledonia Group Services Ltd
    Caledonia Investments PLC
    Auckland Shipping Ltd
    Sussex Research Ltd
    Simon Waxley
    Robert Shetler-Jones
    .
    ???
    Halfon seems to be extraordinarily well funded. Who are these people and companies and why does Halfon need so many £thousands? Some digging. Perhaps he is a conduit for the money. The Israeli support set up is more and more like the mafia and just as brutish.

  19. Halfon’s latest register of interests
    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmregmem/111116/111116.pdf Page 121
    declares that the Conservative Friends of Israel paid for his accomomodation at the Manchester conference to the tune of £1,100.
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    This summary is dated November 2011. Scanning through what they are ALL picking up leaves one feeling sick.

  20. Antelope Grazer, my big fear is that these missions (if they’re really spies or special forces, and otherwise why are they there?) are already going on. Regardless of the opinions of decent people who contribute to this blog, devoted MPs like Paul Flynn (where are the others?), persistent bloggers after truth, like Craig, there is nothing we can do to stop them. This war on Iran is on the agenda. Nothing can remove it. Gould, and the other two Zionist ambassadors to Israel from Canada and the US, are there for a purpose. NATO is at their beck and call. Cover-ups and whitewashes like O’Donnell’s will continue, and questions will not be answered until these evil people (Hague, Fox, Osborne, their colleagues across the Atlantic and Israel, et al) get their way.

  21. As well as having been favourably compared by the Jewish Telegraph with Louise Ellman (ie fearless channel for Zionist propaganda), Halfon is a member of the Henry Jackson Society.
    http://powerbase.info/index.php/Henry_Jackson_Society.
    .
    As is Michael Gove, btw.

  22. Excellent news, what a faux passe by Gus’, could it be that he is retiring soon?
    Right, this calls for another global linking charge from us all, there must be no doubt that this will get through to everyone.
    The defense of the realm is seriously undermined and it looks like the establishment is letting it happen, trying desperately to keep it under the carpet. I shall start with my face book page and then shall work my way through my adress book.
    Clearly Liam Fox should now be asked to resign as an MP until further notice, I’d have him arrested and Mathew Gould recalled with imediate effect, its just my Krauty nature.
    When it comes to real issues the likes of Hitchens and Monbiot are nowhere to be found, where are Britain principled Journalists?

    Do they all work for Private Eye?
    Good on you for being persistent, your recall of last nights FCO encounter of the strange kind had me in pupatations, what a hoot, a midminght service eh?, spooks never sleep, by now you must have half of MI6 buzzing.

    Now would be a time to engage with your neighbours regards to the time when you go walkies on the beach, etc. This is getting very close and they do not like it up them I fear. Think about a few tricks from your past, there are easy ways to see who has visited whilst you are away.

  23. One of Halfon’s donors, Robert Shetler-Jones, funds the Tories more generally, pays through a shell company, and has interesting links.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/oct/25/partyfunding-conservatives

  24. And Dmitry Firtash, the Ukrainian oligarch who has absolutely nothing to do with Robert Shetler-Jones (oh, no, nothing at all. Don’t you believe me?), who helps fund the Tories and, specifically Halfon, has an Israeli passport. Allegedly.
    .
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1303215/MI5-vetoed-Security-Minister-Baroness-Pauline-Neville-Jones-links-Ukrainian-oligarchs.html
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    Who’da thunk it?

  25. “UPDATE: access to this blog is now blocked from FCO and Cabinet Office terminals. Very wise – truth can be contagious.”

    If I doubted before, I am certain now…

  26. willyrobinson

    25 Nov, 2011 - 10:20 am

    Readers, please pass this article on to as many people as you can – thanks – w

  27. Willyrobinson, if you mean Craig’s blog today, I’ve already posted it on Facebook (but don’t think most people read anything polical; they are too interested in other more mundane things).

  28. willyrobinson

    25 Nov, 2011 - 10:59 am

    @John Goss – yes of course, my own post is a bit too light to really travel. And I agree, it’s often hard to get people interested in complex stories, but I think we could make the same effort to get a message out again today as when Craig first broke the story. With MPs on record about various meetings it’s less risky for MSM to carry should they want to.
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    Now, do they want to?…

  29. Apologies folks have been deleting everything not strictly on topic as want to keep this targeted at the moment.

  30. Murder most fowl

    25 Nov, 2011 - 11:55 am

    Freedom of Information requests should have a two-part reply: “do we have the information?” and “How (or if) we will give you the information.” It isn’t clear here which is answer is too expensive (= about three person-days work).

    I had a similar strange response to a request for information of communications between a (named) minister and a (named) council (not about Sharon Shoesmith, but similar). My reply (after a reasonable fifteen days) was that it was too expensive to determine if they held the information.

    It makes it difficult to refine a request to get it into the resource limit (which they are supposed to help you with). My practice in such cases is immediately to make another FoI request about how my first request was handled: it shouldn’t take three days work to find this out.

    I received a holding reply (invoking the extra twenty days reply period) as they were holding meetings to see if they could respond!

    You might like to try a similar tack.

    In passing, Brent Council refused to even reply to an American friend’s FoI until he provided proof of identity. As he already held the information (leaked to him) and was only covering the tracks of the leaker, he went ahead and published the story anyway!

  31. This is important.
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    http://wn.com/Friends_of_Israel_Initiative
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    Go to people and you will find Halfon.

  32. Robert Halfon (see Mary’s post above) is also funded by Auckland Shipping Ltd. Alan Bekhor is a director of this. He also funds Philip Hollobone MP (who he?) and Michael Gove MP.
    He gets around, too. I’ve seen the name in another, related context, but can’t remember where. Maybe one of Fox’s old donors?
    Here’s where he is politically, anyway.
    http://www.powerbase.info/index.php/Alan_Bekhor
    .
    He is Jewish, and described by some commentators as a staunch Zionist. Standpoint Magazine, which he funds, is described thus by Anthony S. McCarthy in Culture Wars:
    .

    “Then I read Standpoint.

    It is written, though not exclusively, by a motley bunch of anti-Christian neoconservatives who, like Paul Johnson, seem to prize Israel, demonise Muslims and boast of their ‘hawkish’ approach to the “War on Terror”. As if this isn’t bad enough, there are cultural articles by people like the ‘philosopher’ Alain de Botton….(snip)”

  33. The probable funder as well as founder member of the Friends of Israel Initiative is: http://www.powerbase.info/index.php/Robert_Agostinelli

  34. RE: FOIA requests

    I have made many FOIA requests. Often the tactic is to refuse them at first. The ultimate handbook on this is Heather Brooke’s Your Right To Know, however I have lent it to someone else, so I can’t tell you what she says on the costs argument.

    1) It is important to be persistent, and try again and appeal etc.

    2) Cut your request down to a minimum, and submit several individual requests

    eg: a) outgoing comms between werrity and gould through ministerial channels, b)outgoing comms beween w and g
    non-ministerial c) incoming ….etc etc

    3) Does your refusal offer you an internal review?

    If so go for it

    4) If not appeal to the ICO

    I hope this helps. I’ll try to get my book back and consult Ms Brookes, the oracle of getting **our** info out of **our** functionaries.

    btw thanks for all your commitment to proper government conduct and justice over the years

    best

    J

  35. “I can’t help thinking we’re missing something in this story in that Werritty visited Iran a number of times. Surely, if he were linked to anti-Iran groups in the UK, as well as to Israel, he was putting himself in serious danger (he has no dip. immunity). The Iranians certainly have their own spies in Israel and the UK. Now, I wonder what he was doing there? Meeting anti-regime elements? Could he be such a fool? Not very likely.”

    Wonder if he was in Iran between 2003-2005? When Gould was charge d’affaires there? Wouldn’t need immunity if he met the dissidents in the Embassy, would he?

  36. Might I suggest Craig resubmit his request to ask for all communications between Werrity and Gould within Government systems. My guess is that the FCO have something of valid point about the cost of searching all systems and not just their own.

    I don’t think that the latest round really adds very much – apart from demonstrating the reluctance of the FCO to have details of its conversations with foreign governments/security forces aired in public – but this is something you can see all over the place if you care to look. It also provides some support as to why GOD may not have been lying as previously claimed – given that someone else is responsible for Gould as a member of the Diplomatic Service.

    As for the continuing argument that all these meetings had the express purpose of engineering war against Iran we are still relying solely on Craig’s mole as the unsubstantiated source. Not proven as they would say in the Scottish courts.

    Cue loads of troll comments and other related garbage from those who have formed their view regardless of the evidence – but I still remain to be convinced.

    @Ingo
    “When it comes to real issues the likes of Hitchens and Monbiot are nowhere to be found”

    In the case of Hitchens it may well have something to do with him having probably terminal cancer and suffering from pneumonia – but don’t worry I think Hitchens has already made his views on the subject of Iran pretty clear – look here for a start, which is even more relevant today than it was back in August 2010.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2010/08/its_not_just_about_israel.2.html

    Hitchens may be many things put he is certainly not a coward when it comes to expressing his views on the subjects that matter.

  37. Louise Ellman MP, the member for Israel, sorry Liverpool Riverside .
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    Ellman’s Political Advisor in the Parliamentary Office is Zeev Portner.
    .
    As well as advising Ellman, look what he does in his spare time:
    .
    Israel Advocacy Skills Training Day Israel Needs You! Ever feel lost for words when defending Israel?

    Join us for this Israel Connect Training Day, as part of our Training Programme. For all young professionals aged 20-35.

    Sunday 11th January 2009, 3.00-6.00pm, NW London venue (message for details).

    Session 1: ANALYSIS – Everything you wanted to know about the Israeli Elections, and more! By Shmuel Ben Tovim, Embassy of Israel
    Session 2: SKILLS – Putting your point across, and how to impact on the media. By Rafael Broch, Director of Strategy for JustJournalism
    Session 3: ACTION (optional) – “But what can I do?” – lobbying. By Zeev Portner, Political Advisor in the Parliamentary Office of Louise Ellman, MP

    source:tinyurl.com/7clldas
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    .
    Is Zeev Portner getting a wage from Louise Ellam expenses? if so, we the taxpayers are paying for the above Israel Advocacy Skills!!!

  38. I am posting it on my FB, as well as sending to PressTV…

  39. Thanks to John Goss for pointing out that Robert Halfon is a participant in the Friends of Israel Initiative, along with Lord Trimble, Lord Weidenfeld, Robert Bolton, and Jose Maria Aznar
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    The role of the last two in fomenting the Iraq war of 2003 may be conveniently ignored….

  40. Good digging everyone. Keep those spades polished and sharp edged.
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    Still about Gould. Is there a word that says hypocrisy but more strongly?
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    Here he is with wife Celia in the ghastly ‘hat’ at a Service of Remembrance at Ramle.
    http://ukinisrael.fco.gov.uk/en/news/?view=PressR&id=693075082

    YOU WILL NOTE HOW GOULD SPEAKS OF JEWS FIGHTING FOR THE BRITISH AND COMMONWEALTH FORCES BUT NOT OF BLOWING UP CORPSES OF HUNG TOMMIES WITH BOOBY TRAPS. HE IS A SCOURGE.

    There are men in that cemetery from the Mandate days who were killed by Israeli terrorists. AND THERE ARE MORE BRITISH VETERANS IN GAZA IN TWO MORE CEMETERIES WHERE SOME OF THE INSCRIPTIONS ARE MORE THAN POIGNANT RE THE WW1 ‘FALLEN’. THE MOST FREQUENT DATE ON THE STANDARD (LUTYENS?) STONES IS NOVEMBER 2 1917 = BALFOUR ‘DECLARATION’.

    {http://dhalpin.infoaction.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=2}

  41. What brave and powerful campaigners are Paul Flynn’s constituents who got him to ask questions. They were two of 12 detained in Israel for trying to visit Bathlehem.
    .
    http://gazatvnews.com/2011/07/twelve-pro-palestinian-britons-detained-in-israel/

  42. “Wonder if he was in Iran between 2003-2005? When Gould was charge d’affaires there? Wouldn’t need immunity if he met the dissidents in the Embassy, would he?”

    What about before that time, Komodo, because these plans have existed for a very long time, since Reza Pahlevi took his leave, and very openly in 2000 in Vienna, when the CIA tried to foist a fake nuke blueprint on Iran.
    This resolve by the west to topple Irans mullahs has been a goal for a very long time, I’m sure Craig one day will tell us what then was normal brief. Saddams stooge days will fill libraries, a wanten tool to crack the Iranian nut, despite the many cultural and religious ties that exist between these two countries.
    If our speculations are in any way correct and these two have had enegagements in Iran, then I expect it was as part of a prep exercise, making connections, meeting people…. setting up the pieces and reliants. That is the only plausible suggestion that I can come up with, unless there are powerfull accomplices within Ahmadinejads inner circle who can demand security for this trio.
    If Werritty was unhindered in Iran, was allowed to travel freely, then I very much suspect that he has been watched, intensely.
    What is very uncomfortable about this affair is that it has not blown yet, like a wettish fuse, fizzlin’ along, how come our security services are allowing such crass interference in foreign policy, what is it that they don’t understand about this sordid undermining of our mainstream political parties, or those BICOM’s money sloshers, favours to be called in later?

    Gould should be recalled now, not that it would change much, the damage has been done.

  43. For shame, Mary; you should doubt the loyalty of our Zionist ambassador?
    http://www.ibca.info/past.htm
    (17th.Nov 2010 entry)
    See, he has the Union Jack on his kippah? He’s as British as salt beef and carrots….

  44. Ingo, I’m sure our security services are at least partially aware of what’s going on. It’s their business to know. I just wonder at what point they will realise that secrecy is not the patriotic option, if ever.

  45. Do you mind Komodo! My blood temperature is high enough already.
    .
    The provision of photos and announcements of activities is so in your face. More chutzpah.

    Stephen’s quiet. Given up and gone away?

  46. Very enlightening Komodo, especially the history of that organisation, very much engrained into society.

    here is a fairly accurate situation analysis from Noam Chomsky, no relations. It accurately shows who the agressors to Iran are. We must not forget that Iran was a democracy before 1953, I was shuffling around on my potty, barely a year old. Sadly, the west could not keep their grubby hands out of Irans affairs, just as with Iraq, it was not our kind of democracy, we wanted mallable leaders who sold us oil.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/11/20111122142555908626.html

  47. Stephen

    My tolerance for you is now over, you are plainly a deliberately misleading troll and no more. Plainly the FCO do not have to search all communications systems outside the FCO for communications between Gould and Werritty, they just have to ask Gould for it. He is their employee.

    The argument that Gould should not be included in the Cabinet Secretary’s report into the Gould-Werritty affair, because O’Donnell has no line management responsibility for Gould, is plainly nonsense. On those grounds, Werritty should not have been included either.

  48. Mr Murray

    Have you considered taking this issue up with George Galloway? Surely a story as hot as this would be right up his street and he would almost certainly run with it. I believe that his friday evening programme on talksport garners quite a sizeable audience. I assume that he has full editorial control.

  49. Iran Mullahs are not big favourite in Iran, but Iranian are looking at Iraq and Afghanistan and are taking heed. I remember 15 years ago, people would openly say, let the west come here and rescue us from these mullahs. Now ask Iranian in Iran including Jewish ones and all they say is “curse the Zionist west, we will solve our own problems, and will get rid of the mullahs eventually” and a great majority are in favour of Nuclear Iran, even if it is Nuclear weapon.

  50. Perhaps you could structure your request differently, limit the time frame, or ask about specific dates,

    Paul Flynn is a decent MP, I suppose it might explain why I have never heard from him before on the media.

  51. Stephen’s response to Craig’s accusation of trolling is classic trolling, picking out half a sentence and ignoring the rest. Talk about proving a point!
    Take a hike Stephen. You may not like what people talk about here, but until you actually have something to add, go argue about sport in the pub.

  52. Medialens Messae Board
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    The Werrity Affair: Concerns about Matthew ‘Third Man’ Gould expressed in Parliament
    Posted by The Editors on November 25, 2011, 8:38 am
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    November 24, 2011
    Did Sir Gus breach the code?
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    Total of British soldiers killed in Afghanisatan = 389
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    Below is the full uncorrected verbatim account of my clash with Gus O’Donnell impeded by the Committee Chair and MP Robert Halfon. This morning Halfon’s constituency party was named as a recipient of £5,000 from one of the NeoCon backers of Werritty. Halfon declares £22,000 of donations to his party from individuals. He previously was prominent in the Conservative Friends of Israel.
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    I raised the matter at Business Questions in the Commons today.
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    Paul Flynn (Newport West) (Lab): Witnesses before a Select Committee have said that the inquiry into the Werritty affair was rushed and inadequate, and possibly in breach of the ministerial code as it was not conducted by the only person who is the enforcer of the code: the independent adviser on ministerial affairs. As the inquiry was conducted for reasons of political expediency to avoid embarrassment for the Government, and as new evidence is available, should we not have a full legitimate inquiry conducted by the only person authorised to undertake it: Sir Philip Mawer?
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    {http://paulflynnmp.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/11/did-sir-gus-breached-the-code.html}
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    Re: The Werrity Affair: Concerns about Matthew ‘Third Man’ Gould expressed in Parliament
    Posted by johnlilburne on November 25, 2011, 9:25 am, in reply to “The Werrity Affair: Concerns about Matthew ‘Third Man’ Gould expressed in Parliament”

    See Craig Murray:

    {http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/11/gould-werritty-a-real-conspiracy-not-a-theory/#comments}

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    http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1322210281.html

  53. Robert Halfon is the grandson of a Libyan Jew. A Liverpool University got him to withdraw unsavoury comments about the university receiving fund from Libya which had been approved by the FCO.
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    http://217.18.90.33/news/uk-news/52614/university-drops-libya-libel-suit-against-mp-robert-halfon

  54. And the next article in the same newspaper is about Matthew Gould and anti Israeli sentiments in Universities.

    http://217.18.90.33/news/uk-news/52610/matthew-gould-cautions-uk-campus-extremism-image

  55. Carlos

    Thanks – Stephen has been dispatched to outer darkness for that particularly gratuitous example

  56. We should organise, expose these Zionist puppets pretending to work for their constituents and work to expose them and support their opponents. The law of treason I think is giving aid and comfort to a foreign nation, does it apply in the UK? Halfon only got 44% of the vote, we should create pamphlets highlighting his connections and his attempt to prevent legitimate enquiries by another MP as evidence that he does not work for his constituents. The lives of innocent Iranians depends on toppling these puppets. Every zionist MP will know the people will be organised against them at the election. Shame we can not recall these agents of a foreign power.

  57. Halfon has a Facebook account. Who wants to befriend him? http://www.facebook.com/RobertHalfon?sk=wall

  58. They don’t let toxic dragons join Facebook. Let him come here.
    @ConHome:@Halfon4HarlowMP:The​ BBC cannot continue as a kleptocracy. We need to put licence-fee payers in charge
    (Halfon, facebook, today)
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    No objection to letting the Conservative Party continue as a kleptocracy, I imagine.

  59. Just one thing wrong with this backbench “debate”: no-one against the motion…
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    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cmhansrd/cm110120/halltext/110120h0001.htm
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    Halfon, Ellman, Mann et al for. Bit of a circle jerk really.

  60. Keep fighting the good fight Craig. Be spurred on by the trolls and the establishment smokescreens. They are proof that you are on to something. Don’t let this drop, we all need to bang the drum as loudly as possible. If Private Eye are on to it, get Hislop to go public with it, he’s identifiable enough to generate momentum. Can we all badger individual journalists and editors with demands until they have no choice but to publish? Bombard their twitter accounts with demands for publicity. I’ll try to post a list of some prominent journos and MPs twitter accounts, they will fear how quickly the fire can spread I reckon.

  61. Having read a few of his articles, this Halfon comes across as a bit of an eager dimwit.
    .
    I think too that the manner of his interruptions of a collegaue on the committee hearing does rather confirm that impression.
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    We can only hope that Mr Halfon develops a much higher profile. I think he may prove an endless source of much needed amusement.

  62. Would the Mossad people at the dinner be related to the Mossad people now saying in public that attacking Iran would be barking mad? Gould, as anyone who knows Iran, will know that a military attack would do wonders for the regime in getting people to rally behind it. Have you considered the possibility that Gould might in fact have been conspiring with Mossad to stop an Israeli attack?

  63. Tim,

    I have a diamond inside source who tells me the opposite. Don’t be fooled so easily – don’t you remember the USA military pretending to be against an attack on Libya, at the very time they were negotiating support for it in the Arab League in return for US diplomatic support for the Saudi invasion of Bahrain?

  64. Tim: I think Mossad’s main objective is to persuade the US/EU to invade Iran on Israel’s behalf.
    .
    The recent statements from Mossad have been in response to the idea of an attack by Israel alone, which Netanyahu has been talking up of late. They are right, it is indeed madness. Israel will never attack Iran.

  65. Craig, you are entitled to ask for a breakdown of the costs and the methodology within the terms of the FOI Act. You could also offer to meet the costs yourself.

  66. James Cook has an article about you and this subject.
    Over at Global Research.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27854
    I posted yours, and his on my blog.
    Good luck, and keep up the truth to power.

  67. MJ,
    I think the decision to attack Iran would have already been made by the US, Israel and the UK. The meetings would more likely to have been how to attack Iran and get away with it. Of course, persuading the EU would have been of great importance.

    This affair highlights the fact that there are policies not made by Parliament, which to me exemplifies that there is a ‘government’ within the government that in reality leads in some areas. The hidden government is totally bonded to the US and Israel, which I believe came about when the UK virtually collapsed about twenty years ago and the US and Israel secretly bailed them out. In the UK and abroad there is a vast plethora of companies the ‘government’ controls or has shares in. The intelligence services engage in activities in common with the US and Israel to grab resources to maintain their empire.

  68. We spread this as far and wide as possible. An even bigger effort than the inspirational one the readership mustered the day Craig broke this story originally. Below is a list of the twitter addresses of a number of prominent tweeters. I suggest everyone tweet/message them and direct them to Craig’s account. I’ve divided them up into journalists, politicians, and people with prominent readership who might be able to spread the word in a big way at the click of a mouse.

    I suggest we either(as appropriate) enquire as to whether they are aware, ask them if they doubt Craig’s claims, ask why they think MSM are not biting, request retweets, ask them to raise in parliament, enquire if their media outlet has been informed, ask what action they are taking, demand action etc.

    I’m aware that some of the following will definitely already have been alerted or may even be pursuing their own neo-con agenda, but I still think it is worth letting them know that we know. The more they start to fear that the word is getting out the more they will be forced / shamed into action. Many will be terrified of this story going viral or ‘trending’

    Right here goes:

    Journos: @SeumasMilne, @GaryGibbonBlog, @GeorgeMonbiot, @sunny_hundal, @afneil @TheDailyShow, @GdnPolitics, @garyyounge, @johannhari (maybe not a grat idea, not one will believe us!) @j_freedland, @pollytoynbee, @arusbridger, @martinkettle, @steverichards14, @ns_mehdihasan, @andrewrawnsley, @jonsnowc4, @richardpbacon, @AndrewSparrow, @mattfrei (some hope!) @BBCBreaking, @Peston, @JonSnowblog, @MichaelWhite, @bbcnickrobinson, @gabyhinsliff, @faisalislam, @cathynewman, @c4politics, @Krishgm

    Politicos: @DAlexanderMP, @DMiliband, @johnmcdonnellMPneed to , @tom_watson, @edballsmp, @SadiqKhan, @CarolineLucas, @Labour Party, @ChukaUmunna, @Ed_Miliband, @edvaizey,

    Might RT???: @rorybremner, @prodnose (Danny Baker) @campbellclaret (seriously…) @piersmorgan, @PennyRed, @NaomiAKlein, @Aiannucci, @Kevin_Maguire, @leftfootfwd, @christopherhitc, @davidschneider, @alandavies1, @MMFLint, @stephenfry (he’s from Norwich Craig, lean on him, 2million folowers! would really be mobilising!) @ken4london, @eddieizzard, @Jemima_Khan, @TimMontgomerie, @wdjstraw.

    Let’s mobilise!

  69. Jonathan Cook. Lives in Nazareth ‘within the belly of the beast’ as we say. Married to a Palestinian. Got away from the Guardian.
    .
    Why my reporting is different
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    I have chosen to position myself in the region in two ways – one professional, the other geographical – that distinguish me from colleagues. This approach gives me greater freedom to reflect on the true nature of the conflict and provides me with fresh insight into its root causes.

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    Professionally, I am one of the few journalists regularly writing about the region who work as an independent freelancer. I choose the issues I wish to cover, so I am not constrained by the ‘treadmill’ of the mainstream media, which require an endless flow of instant copy and analysis. I am also not tied to the mainstream agenda, which gives disproportionate coverage to the concerns of the powerful, in this case the Israeli and American positions – in the US media to a degree that makes much of their Israel/Palestine reporting implausible. I also rarely accept commissions, restricting myself to topics that I consider to be the most revealing about the conflict.

    .

    Geographically, I am the first foreign correspondent to be based in the Israeli Arab city of Nazareth, in the Galilee. Most reporters covering the conflict live in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, with a handful of specialists based in the West Bank city of Ramallah. The range of stories readily available to reporters in these locations reinforces the assumption among editors back home that the conflict can only be understood in terms of the events that followed the West Bank and Gaza’s occupation in 1967. This has encouraged the media to give far too much weight to Israeli concerns about ‘security’ – a catch-all that offers Israel special dispensation to ignore its duties to the Palestinians under international law.

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    Many topics central to the dispute between Israelis and Palestinians, including the plight of the refugees and the continuing dispossession of Palestinians living as Israeli citizens, do not register on most reporters’ radars.

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    From Nazareth, the capital of the Palestinian minority in Israel, things look very different. There are striking, and disturbing, similarities between the experiences of Palestinians inside Israel and those inside the West Bank and Gaza. All have faced Zionism’s appetite for territory and domination, as well as repeated attempts at ethnic cleansing. These unifying themes suggest that the conflict is less about the specific circumstances thrown up by the 1967 war and more about the central tenets of Zionism as expressed in the war of 1948 that founded Israel and the war of 1967 that breathed new life into its settler colonial agenda.
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    http://www.jkcook.net/
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    A good man.

  70. @ Reality Zone
    Jonathan Cook. Lives in Nazareth ‘within the belly of the beast’ as we say. Married to a Palestinian. Got away from the Guardian.
    .
    Why my reporting is different
    .
    I have chosen to position myself in the region in two ways – one professional, the other geographical – that distinguish me from colleagues. This approach gives me greater freedom to reflect on the true nature of the conflict and provides me with fresh insight into its root causes.

    .
    Professionally, I am one of the few journalists regularly writing about the region who work as an independent freelancer. I choose the issues I wish to cover, so I am not constrained by the ‘treadmill’ of the mainstream media, which require an endless flow of instant copy and analysis. I am also not tied to the mainstream agenda, which gives disproportionate coverage to the concerns of the powerful, in this case the Israeli and American positions – in the US media to a degree that makes much of their Israel/Palestine reporting implausible. I also rarely accept commissions, restricting myself to topics that I consider to be the most revealing about the conflict.

    .

    Geographically, I am the first foreign correspondent to be based in the Israeli Arab city of Nazareth, in the Galilee. Most reporters covering the conflict live in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, with a handful of specialists based in the West Bank city of Ramallah. The range of stories readily available to reporters in these locations reinforces the assumption among editors back home that the conflict can only be understood in terms of the events that followed the West Bank and Gaza’s occupation in 1967. This has encouraged the media to give far too much weight to Israeli concerns about ‘security’ – a catch-all that offers Israel special dispensation to ignore its duties to the Palestinians under international law.

    .
    Many topics central to the dispute between Israelis and Palestinians, including the plight of the refugees and the continuing dispossession of Palestinians living as Israeli citizens, do not register on most reporters’ radars.

    .

    From Nazareth, the capital of the Palestinian minority in Israel, things look very different. There are striking, and disturbing, similarities between the experiences of Palestinians inside Israel and those inside the West Bank and Gaza. All have faced Zionism’s appetite for territory and domination, as well as repeated attempts at ethnic cleansing. These unifying themes suggest that the conflict is less about the specific circumstances thrown up by the 1967 war and more about the central tenets of Zionism as expressed in the war of 1948 that founded Israel and the war of 1967 that breathed new life into its settler colonial agenda.
    .
    http://www.jkcook.net/
    .
    A good man.

  71. on the website “theyworkforyou” you can check and search every speech by any mp, halfon’s speeches show clearly where his sympathies lie.

  72. Dear Craig, could we get one of those e-petitions going to make them release the information we need?

  73. I wonder if the current shadow defence minister is being contacted by mossad/pro zionist elements, can a question be asked of him? Does the shadow defence minister have to list all his meetings and contacts? also have the liberal democrats also been “contacted”?

  74. from Paul Flynn’s website:

    TMr Ben Bradshaw (Exeter) (Lab): Will the Leader of the House invite the Prime Minister to come to the House to explain why he did not feel the need to declare his land deal with a major Conservative party donor and lobbyist? Following on from the question asked by my hon. Friend the Member for Newport West (Paul Flynn), what is the point of having an independent standards commissioner if his advice is never sought?

    anyone know anything about this cameron land deal?

  75. Nuremberg Trials;
    ,
    Article 6 (a) ; Crimes against Peace: namely, planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances, or participation in a Common Plan or Conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the foregoing.
    ,
    Patently applicable to the points arising, in the posting made by Craig. Sadly despite the fact that Israel proves to be a clear and present danger to the countries in the Mid east and the larger world, somehow it is not held to task, and her aggressive stance goes unchallenged.
    ,
    The litanies of improprieties engaged in by those representing zionists interests, included the deployment of the candidates, and leaders with the political hierarchy, have brought about the blatant disregard of the remit of the said political class and the evident corruption of the processes safeguarding the continuance of peace, and order in the world.
    ,
    The evident and deliberate interruptions of the questions of the Honourable Paul Flynn MP. In addition to the procedural constructs that Sir Gus O’Donnell resorts to omit the probable fallout of the scandalous conspiracy of war criminals is a reprehensible, and vile enterprise.
    ,
    However, why should there be such blatant efforts in protection of the said war criminals? This is the factor that often is open to speculation, and is almost always to be ended with a plethora of rebuttals. This too is an anticipated outcome, that is to ensure the longevity of the forces of evil engaged in their vile enterprise. Further this too can be found to be a replication of the behaviour found in Nature. As found in the parasitic world of brain hijackers, in particular Glyptapanteles species, in which the crazed caterpillar is a vehicle for aggression towards the enemies. This is almost an uncanny parallel to the current state of affairs in our world.

  76. Nuremberg Trials;
    ,
    Article 6 (a) ; Crimes against Peace: namely, planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances, or participation in a Common Plan or Conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the foregoing.
    ,
    Patently applicable to the points arising, in the posting made by Craig. Sadly despite the fact that Israel proves to be a clear and present danger to the countries in the Mid east and the larger world, somehow it is not held to task, and her aggressive stance goes unchallenged.
    ,
    The litanies of improprieties engaged in by those representing zionists interests, included the deployment of the candidates, and leaders with the political hierarchy, have brought about the blatant disregard of the remit of the said political class and the evident corruption of the processes safeguarding the continuance of peace, and order in the world.
    ,
    The evident and deliberate interruptions of the questions of the Honourable Paul Flynn MP. In addition to the procedural constructs that Sir Gus O’Donnell resorts to omit the probable fallout of the scandalous conspiracy of war criminals is a reprehensible, and vile enterprise.
    ,
    However, why should there be such blatant efforts in protection of the said war criminals? This is the factor that often is open to speculation, and is almost always to be ended with a plethora of rebuttals. This too is an anticipated outcome, that is to ensure the longevity of the forces of evil engaged in their vile enterprise. Further this too can be found to be a replication of the behaviour found in Nature. As found in the parasitic world of brain hijackers, in particular Glyptapanteles species, in which the crazed caterpillar is a vehicle for aggression towards the enemies. This is almost an uncanny parallel to the current state of affairs in our world.

  77. “Mr Murray

    Have you considered taking this issue up with George Galloway? Surely a story as hot as this would be right up his street and he would almost certainly run with it. I believe that his friday evening programme on talksport garners quite a sizeable audience. I assume that he has full editorial control.”
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    He doesnt have full editorial control .. but that has ever stopped him from discussing the issues he wants to put across

  78. That’s not a bad idea, Larry Levin. Babar Hammad’s case is to be heard because there were more that 100,000 signatures. An e-petition would be a good indicator of how this story is spreading, especially since Halfon swears by them.

  79. Shadow Defence Minister Jim Murphy-A Labour Friend Of Israel- conspicuous by his silence…

    I believe this is what’s known as a closed loop.

    A private conspiracy to start another bullshit war.

    Grotesque.

  80. of course there will be an undermining of iran, regime change and maybe direct war .. the fantastic thing about the neo cons is that they do make these announcement well in advance of the act taking place. one just has to be aware of these announcements very often via the corporate media.
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    for the neo cons, its “fill yer boots” time , not only siphoning of vast amounts of money from the public purse (via banks and financial institutions, military industrial complex) but also land grabs, by any means necessary .
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    the focus whilst on werrity/fox/gould should also be on preventing war with syria and iran and that means targeting current ministers and cameron because the likes of cameron et al can claim to have no knowledge — one needs a smoking gun .. maybe those emails make that fox – cameron connection with israel – mossad .. but there must be more .. somewhere

  81. Miniluv: Secret Police
    Minitruth: Agency for propaganda and lies
    Freedom of Information Act: ?

  82. Wendy, I for one am a great admirer of George Galloway’s rhetorical powers. His scolding of the US Senate Committe was one of the best things I have ever witnessed in my life – “Love, Actually” in reality. I feel sure that Dr Johnson and Winston Churchill would be impressed by Mr Galloway’s fluency, articulacy, memory, and powers of persuasion. Not to mention his superb vocabulary and choice of words.

    All of which, unfortunately, make his speech more or less incomprehensible to more and more people educated in modern British schools.

  83. Larry Levin Craig did not want us going off topic. I put a link to Cameron’s land deal on 23rd November on the Petrol on the Flames thread about two thirds of the way down.

  84. PS Larry The beautifully coiffed Ben Bradshaw Lab Exeter was a Foreign Office Minister under Bliar and is a Labour Friend of Israel.

  85. I have trawled halfon’s website, Not one word for his love of Israel and his support for zionism? his constituents would not have a clue about who this man really is, I must wonder is ambassador Gould is a constituent of halfon’s ? and ho would an attack on Iran help the people of Harrow, his list of interests make for interesting reading, he paid £15,000 to a company he is 100% owner of, why would someone pay their own company £15,000 ? also its hard to find out what he did before he became an MP?

  86. Craig. You need to get yourself a job on Al Jazeera English, Russia Today (RT) or PressTV. Ok there are question marks about whether they really are alternative news outlets or just a different shade of the same crap that the BBC pumps out, unified under the same major objective, but they are more likely to carry news and investigations by a ‘rebel ex-ambassador’ which the corporate media like the ZBC may no be able to ignore.
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    OR may I suggest Craig Murray ITV. Set up your own internet station and invite others to help out.
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    I would really love to have a Craig Murray Internet TV

  87. Yes, lwtc247 (lwt – now that was a good channel!) I’m afraid Al Jazeera seems deeply compromised. Their Chief resigned after it emerged that he was acceding to various requests from the US state in relation to news items. The role of Qatar in the recent Libyan operation and in Al Jazeera itself draws shadows down unpn the organisation. Increasingly, the channel seems not unlike those Cold War ‘alternative’ outlets which were actually CIA-run, the aim, to capture and guide dissent towards channels acceptable to over-arching strategic objectives. To paraphrase Nirvana (the early 1990s one, niot the 1960s one), ‘they all are imitators’.

  88. The Johnathon Cook article is also published in CounterPunch

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/11/25/is-britain-plotting-with-israel-to-attack-iran/

  89. So, Craig Murray Broadcasting – yeah, go for it!
    .
    Yes, I’m suspicious of such blatant ‘leaked’ statements from MOSSAD wrt the madness of an attack on Iran – we hear about such statements generally when they want us to. It’s a little like Jonathan Evans’s (MI5 Chief) Speedo trunks photos. As the excellent Corinne Souza pointed out recently, that was PR on behalf of MI5 to indicate that they were really just common men and women and so on. Likewise, the tale about him having to wait in the Security Check queue at the airport. One suspects the supposed MOSSAD ‘leaks’ are in similar vein. When the attack on Iraq was mooted in pub,lic, Jack Straw said it was not on the cards. He knew it was on the cards, indeed that he knew it had already been decided. He lied.

  90. Pippa Barlotti is already on your fb list craig think shes mentioned you before could well be useful for media attention.

    Heres a brief bio.
    Founder member of COEXIST where we believe that true and lasting peace can only be sustained when social, economic and environmental justice has been achieved Green Party Parliamentary Candidate, Newport West, 2010 Human Rights speaker for Amnesty International
    Deputy leader of the Wales Green Party
    Wales Palestine Network

  91. “All of which, unfortunately, make his speech more or less incomprehensible to more and more people educated in modern British schools.”
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    i dont think he is that much hard work, though i do suspect people hear what they want to hear and of course believe .
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    theres an extraordinary headline in the Independent today:
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    “English Defence League prepares to storm local elections”
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    – if there was any sense of a conspiracy this is it, in the guardian mail and independent the EDL get an rather high profile and not always negative , though it might appear so superficially.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/english-defence-league-prepares-to-storm-local-elections-6267740.html
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    Someone in high places surely wants them to succeed

  92. On Medialens
    .
    Re: Is Britain Plotting With Israel to Attack Iran?
    Posted by Si on November 25, 2011, 7:30 pm, in reply to “Is Britain Plotting With Israel to Attack Iran?”
    .
    Excellent piece building on Murray. I was struck by this section:

    ‘The British media have cautiously raised the issue of apparent Israeli links to Fox and Werritty.
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    The Daily Telegraph reported that the pair secretly met the head of the Mossad –possibly at the Tel Aviv dinner, though the paper has not specified where or when the meeting took place.
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    Last month the Independent on Sunday claimed that Werritty had close ties to the Mossad as well as to “US-backed neocons” plotting to overthrow the Iranian regime. The Mossad were reported to have assumed Werritty was Fox’s “chief of staff.”’
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    Reading that you could be forgiven for believing that the British media is in the game of exposing warmongering – when in fact they are key war enablers.

    –Previous Message–
    :
    : http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/11/25/is-britain-plotting-with-israel-to-attack-iran/
    : by JONATHAN COOK

  93. Only slightly off-thread: Not a squeak from our Governments regarding the attempts by the brave crowds in Egypt to rescue their revolution. Better to keep it in the hands of reliable tryants like the military junta.
    I wonder what our leaders would say if the crowds were massed in the centre of Damascus or Tehran…

  94. Someone was asking what the Islamophobic zionist Robert Halfon did before becoming an MP.
    Here:
    http://www.feweek.co.uk/index.php/2011/11/09/robert-halfon-his-story/
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    I could applaud the guy if that were all that there was to him: the bee in his bonnet is well concealed in this account.

  95. Antidote to the above: refers to Halfon’s description, under the shield of Parliamentary privilege, of Engage as antisemitic.
    http://londonmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/02/robert-halfon-mp-warned-in-parliament.html
    …which they denied, challenging him to produce any evidence…
    as part of his successful attempt to remove the group’s input to the All-Party Group on Islamophobia:
    .
    “The founder of Muslims4UK, Inayat Bunglawala, condemned the MPs’ decision on his blog under the headline: “Israel lobby gloats over removal of Engage from APPG on Islamophobia”.He continued: “Around six months ago, I wrote that pro-Israeli activists were involved in strenuous efforts to try and hobble a new All-Party Parliamentary Group on Islamophobia… And lo! It came to pass.”
    .
    Just try hobbling any Parliamentary group with “Antisemitism” as its brief.

  96. Wonder if I tripped a sensitive rule in the auto-moderator? It’s gone, anyway…
    this is the gist of it.
    http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/52728/row-over-mps-rejection-islamophobia-group

    X-phobia, good; antiYism, bad, eh?

  97. http://www.henryjacksonsociety.org/stories.asp?pageid=49&id=1686

    The Hon. José María Aznar

    I would first like to thank the Honourable Robert Halfon, MP, Alan Mendoza and all the people at the Henry Jackson Society. Thank you for making this event possible. I cannot think of a better place to launch the Friends of Israel Initiative than the House of Commons, the very cradle of modern democracy.
    (July 2010)

    Halfon kept his name away from this one..
    http://blsc.org.uk/news/?p=40

    (2 March 2011)

    Halfon is a signatory to the Henry Jackson Society.

  98. The British Embassy is here in Tel Aviv. In the centre of the map marked with a X. It is a tower block called MigdalOr House and is the location for the Russian and French Embassies and airline and travel offices.

    .
    http://wikimapia.org/#lat=32.07322&lon=34.76792&z=17&l=0&m=b
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    Nice and near the beach. No naval gunboats for the bathers there nor sewage laden water like Gaza.

  99. Better to search Halfon’s Blog re Israel..
    http://roberthalfon.blogspot.com/search?q=israel

  100. Halfon defends Atlantic Bridge as a charity asking why it cannot be treated like the Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR) in today’s FT.
    .
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e304d018-ff20-11e0-9b2f-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1ekb6oOyE

  101. Re. Egypt, Komodo: Activist Mona El-Tahawy relates that she was physically (fractured hand) and sexually assaulted by Egyptian police yesterday. Check her Twitter/blog, etc.
    .
    I see that Christopher Hitchens had been adding to the anti-Iran ferment. His is a great intellect and I am terribly sorry he’s terminally ill. But I think that, not unlike Martin Amis, he’s lost his way to some extent in aligning himself with imperial power in the way he has done. This is from 2010:
    .

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2010/08/its_not_just_about_israel.html
    .
    It’s bad news that India, Pakistan and Israel all have nukes and it’s bad news that the actions of the USA/NATO wrt the region have increased the likelihood of further wars and of nuclear proliferation.
    .
    What is reqd, really is a regional peace treaty with mutual benefit and multilateral guarantees. The Iranian regime is not a new one, it has been in power for 32 years now, it is repressive and corrupt (and many Iranians would prefer a better system there), but it does not behave in an ‘insane’ manner (it often is portrayed as insane like, say, Idi Amin’s or Bokassa’s regimes). It needs to be engaged properly. This is not appeasement; this is realpolitik.
    .

    The alternative is for there to be another war in the Middle East. Another conflagration would make it more likely that nukes will proliferate – in the same way India/Pakistan’s repeated wars have contributed to there being nukes on both sides. The India/Pakistan situation requires a soln to Kashmir and an end to Pakistani use of Islamist paramilitaries domestically and in the region. Similarly, a just compromise over Palestine/Israel and, in parallel, systematic measures to reduce tension b/w Saudi Arabia and Iran would help. Such things can be done – as Craig well knows, I would think. My concern is that a number of the major players’ geostrategic interests are not aligned with seeking lasting peace in the region.
    .
    Put more simply, NATO and/or various ‘coalitions-of-thewilling’ have found that the can conquer any country at will with impunity. This is the danger of there being unilateral military power in the world.

  102. “Put more simply, NATO and/or various ‘coalitions-of-thewilling’ have found that the can conquer any country at will with impunity. This is the danger of there being unilateral military power in the world.”
    .
    I am afraid that is the intention, Suhayl. Though I’ll be interested to see how the extraordinarily courageous Egyptians fare against their US – funded military. My guess is that any emergent government will only be allowed if it plays nicely with Israel.
    ,
    Otherwise I agree with you. That would be the solution. Unfortunately it ain’t gonna happen. (My Saudi ear to the ground suggests that ordinary Saudis are completely disenchanted with their own regime, and would like some democracy too.As long as Saudi Arabia can be played off against Iran, they’ll have a damn long wait.)

  103. Thanks, Komodo, that’s really interesting to know. Yes, that is what I think too. Btw, I didn’t know you had a “Saudi ear”! Is it painful? Is it allowed to drive or go out on its own? Reminds me a little of the Gogol story, ‘The Nose’! Do dragons have ears???

  104. FT is registration (8 articles a month) or paywall (full access) restricted, John. Could you c&p the details if you have access, please?

  105. Re. Gove, he may be a bloody-minded neocon, a member of the Henry Jackson Society, and everything else I detest (though his parents have several points in common with my own life)
    BUT:
    I agree with him on the KJV. It added immeasurably to my appreciation of my own language, despite my rejection of much of its message. The various modern parodies of the Bible in circulation in schools ignore the precision of the language, take liberties with the sense and are usually composed by inferior scholars further from the sources than the KJV.
    But can he make them read it?
    And Origin of Species, I am sorry to say, is not likely to appeal to young people for its writing style…
    Suhayl…earholes. :)

  106. Interestingly too, Saudi Arabia was not as conservative and repressive wrt social activity prior to 1979. Women were allowed to drive and so on. It was not a liberal democracy obviously but it was slowly reforming under King Faisal. The current situation internally developed immediately following the Islamist Mecca mosque takeover, which ended very bloodily.
    .

    The last truly independent ruler of consequence of Saudi Arabia was King Faisal, who was assassinated in the mid-1970s. His Oil Minister was Sheikh Yamani – remember him? Since them, the rulers largely have been US stooges. One imagines that the powers-that-be did not want OPEC to act as an economic block (remember 1973). The stooges of Saudi Arabia led considerably to the (Sunni) Islamist militaries/paramilitaries of Afghanistan-Pakistan (and elsewhere). So, yet again, as with Iran 1953-1979-now, we can see that messing about with countries, trying to leverage resource hegemony, etc., simply leads to future wars. But as you suggest, Komodo, the sowing of chaos in the region, pitting one against the other, and so on, may well be the underlying intention. As you know, it’s called neocolonialism. In recent years, of course, direct intervention in ‘The Greater Middle East’ (now there’s an imperial term worthy of Cecil Rhodes!) has again become a strategic tool.

  107. I checked out Robert Halfon’s interests and he has just set up a management and consultancy company called Eucalyptus Leaves Ltd. Its address is in Derby. Wonder if it’s another not for profit company? He is 100% shareholder. At least he’s declared the interest, unlike those who forget.
    .
    http://companycheck.co.uk/company/07661118
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    There is no harm in keeping an eye on its activities.

  108. @ Komodo

    “I agree with him on the KJV. It added immeasurably to my appreciation of my own language, despite my rejection of much of its message. The various modern parodies of the Bible in circulation in schools ignore the precision of the language, take liberties with the sense and are usually composed by inferior scholars further from the sources than the KJV.
    But can he make them read it?”

    Hmmm… i very much doubt if he can make them read it. Todays yoof? The Bible or…XBox/Internet/Angry Birds etc…i doubt it.

  109. Wonder who lives in a house like this? The reg address of Eucalyptua Leaves Ltd.
    http://g.co/maps/9d7qz

  110. Suhayl – once again I can only agree. Oil prices have been the issue throughout. And they apparently justify propping up a Wahhabi theo/autocracy while simultaneously demonising a Shi’a theocracy. Note also that the Iraq invasion followed closely on Saddam’s statemet of intent to sell oil in Euros, which the Americans couldn’t print on demand, and I believe Ghaddafi was of the same mind shortly before “we” “assisted” his end. Not that either of them were nice guys.

  111. Commission calls for think-tanks’ funding disclosure
    By Jim Pickard, Political Correspondent
    Political think-tanks would be forced to disclose more information about their financial backers under proposals by the Charity Commission in the wake of the closure of Atlantic Bridge, a charity set up by former defence secretary Liam Fox.
    .
    Dame Suzi Leather, chair of the watchdog, said on Tuesday that politically minded charities always raised “tricky questions”. There was a thin line between educational research that charities are allowed to do and political activity, which is banned, she said.
    .
    More
    On this story
    Fox charity tax bill latest link with tycoon
    Confusion over Fox’s Sri Lanka trust
    Charity Commission makes inquiries more transparent
    Private schools win review on charitable status

    .
    “I have suggested that we have a look at think-tanks generically in the next year or so and I think in the context of requiring information from think-tanks it might be worth considering a bit more transparency about sources of funding,” Dame Suzi told the Commons’ administration select committee.
    .
    “Where you are drawing these very, very difficult lines, where organisations are getting their funding from may help you make those difficult judgments.”
    .
    At present, charities print annual statements but donors can give money anonymously. The question of whether these gifts are appropriate is decided by a charity’s trustees.
    .
    Atlantic Bridge, founded by Mr Fox and run by his friend Adam Werritty, was wound up voluntarily by its trustees last month. The commission had found in July 2010 that its “current activities must cease immediately” because it promoted a stance close to the Conservative party.
    .
    Amanda Bowman, former chief executive of Atlantic Bridge Inc – the US wing of the charity – recently described its UK partner as a “shell game”, a reference to a confidence trick.
    .
    Robert Halfon, a Conservative MP on the committee, accused the commission of having been more tough with rightwing charities such as Atlantic Bridge than their leftwing equivalents.
    .
    “There is a view that you are more lenient to charities, so-called charities on the left, and much harsher with those that are regarded as the centre-right,” he said.
    .
    Mr Halfon asked why the commission differentiated between Atlantic Bridge and Labour-leaning think-tanks such as the Institute for Public Policy Research.
    .
    But Sam Younger, chief executive of the commission, said this was not the case. The commission issued a report in 2008 heavily criticising the Smith Institute, a Labour-supporting think-tank.
    .
    “I think I’m right in saying that in the case of Atlantic Bridge, part of the reason the investigation was done [was that] there was no evidence of research that was being published and widely disseminated,” he said. “In the case of IPPR it wouldn’t be like that.”

    .
    Dame Suzi acknowledged that the issue was very sensitive and that it was often difficult to determine the point at which educational research “slips into political activity”.
    .
    A spokesman for the IPPR said: “As the Charity Commission makes clear, a number of think-tanks have charitable status. We hold public events, publish research and disseminate our work widely. We are open and transparent in all that we do.”

    .
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e304d018-ff20-11e0-9b2f-00144feabdc0.html

  112. There’s an issue there that isn’t being addressed. Charities like thinktanks claim to be educational, in order to qualify as charities. But “education” covers a wide field, from GCSE coaching to disseminating propaganda for foreign powers. A line needs to be drawn. There is no sign of that happening.

  113. Thanks Mary for posting that. I hadn’t realied. I thought it was today’s news but when I checked again found it was a month old. But still relevant. Sorry.

  114. Should a British Ambassador be giving his opinion on an internal matter to a member of parliament in the country to which he is Ambassador? In other words, interfering.
    .
    ‘In related news, British Ambassador to Israel Matthew Gould expressed concerns to Likud MK Ofir Akunis, one of the initiators of the bills, over the proposed clause that would limit the amount of money that Israeli political NGOs could receive from foreign governments. Gould told Akunis that the UK supports human rights work in a large number of countries and that UK support for NGOs is not aimed against the Israeli government. Gould also cautioned Akunis that, if passed, the bill would reflect badly on Israel in the international community.’
    .
    http://bicom.org.uk/news-article/knesset-committee-advances-bill-limiting-ngo-funding-2/

  115. I suspect the address you found is that of one of Halfon’s scruffier chums? I found another address:
    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmregmem/110830/halfon_robert.htm
    He appears to be using it as an account for payments for his literary efforts as well as his business consultancy.
    .
    Must be a high-powered business consultant, btw. His sole contact with business appears to have been as a membership tout for a hotel. And he’s BA politics, MA Russian and European Studies. (which might be seen as, er, spooky)…not even an MBA.

  116. Mary, isn’t that what Craig did in Uzbekistan? “Interfered”?Different situation, obviously and different aims. Just saying. NGOs have been used as an arm of imperialism, to erode the power of the nation-state, so this may be the dynamic to which to refer here. Also, if Gould was arguing in this instance for human rights in Israel, how can that be entirely a bad thing?

  117. No doubt Gould was conveying HMG’s position. And maybe remembering that Anglo-Jewish NGO’s would also be liable to suppression as well.
    Eucalyptus Leaves:
    Toxic.
    Grown widely in Israel, originally introduced to drain swamp land for settlers.
    Known by Arabs as “the Jew’s Tree”
    .
    Appropriate.

  118. Don’t make me laugh Suhayl. Gould and human rights? He wants to have killed, maimed and shredded human beings 1000 miles due east of Israel.

  119. In other words, in this instance, he appears to have been using diplomacy (“it is in your interests to comply, my friend, you will look good!”) to further UK interests in Israel. Isn’t that his job? It doesn’t detract from the main plank of this thread in any way. But I think we need to remain analytical and not jump at every possible ‘bait’ (as it were).

  120. I’m not saying he’s genuinely interested in Palestinian human rights or whatever. I am simply suggesting that the inference we can draw from that most recent info. you kindly provided is that he was acting in that instance (re. NGOs) in the UK state’s perceived interests (which may well be imperialist in nature, eg. controlling/directing/monitoring Palestinian activity, etc.). This doesn’t have anything directly to do with his alleged work wrt Iran.

  121. A nos moutons, nessieurs, mesdames:
    Matthew Gould wasn’t just Robin Cook’s speechwriter:
    “He charged the young buck
    Matthew Gould with setting up a reform group of young officials to modernise the Foreign Office – help it meet the challenges ahead with “the best of the British”. If you think this is boring, imagine how bored I feel typing the damned stuff. And so, this reform group set about innovating a series of technical changes which would begin to blast the hierarchy to Hades. The Foresight Report, published in 2000, crystallised these aspirations. Under-performers would be swept out, the Office would learn from its mistakes, equal opportunities would exist for every race and all three genders. Result? Well, it remains the case that the vast majority of place-fillers in the Foreign Office establishment are white men supplied by Oxbridge.”
    ,
    http://leninology.blogspot.com/2004/09/ministry-and-mandarin.html

  122. Just goes to show that one man – in this case, Robin Cook – with or without “young bucks”, cannot change a system of centuries of entrenched privilege. The British class system will be reflected in most of its instutions and in civil society more generally as well. Oui.

  123. And this system projects outwards as well as inwards, with subaltern elites – eg. the fasmous dictum about SOAS graduates tending to speak with ‘His Master’s Voice’ (apologies to SOAS grauates; this is of course a dreadful generalisation!). And so with elites in ‘Third World’ countries and a god swathe of ethnic minority gatekeepers in the UK itself. It’s an internalisation of the dominant conceptual framework.

  124. ‘good’, not ‘god’ (!)
    .
    Sorry, moving off at a tangent now. Yet the variegated mechanics of imperialism are relevant in discourses of war; this is the frame in which people like Gould work.

  125. “It’s an internalisation of the dominant conceptual framework.”
    In clear, Suhayl, efendim, jobs for the boys. :)
    Though it’s interesting to see that Gould chose to go with the privileged flow rather than seriously trying to do what his actual boss, Cook, wanted. More details on that period would be fascinating.

  126. Quite a few companies are registered in that desirable terraced house in Spondon, including one with the fascinating name of FOX ASSOCIATE LLP. Connections back to Golders Green.

  127. ‘Jobs for the boys’ gives it a casual, sort of OK feeling of that’s how it is. But the corrupted power that drives the whole thing is sinister and evil. It uses human frailty and greed and seeps into any vestige it can find to preserve itself and extend its power.

  128. harrowing sexual assaults carried out by crowds or police as they tried to cover demonstrations Classic rubbishing of the enemy of the moment, namely the Egyptians, whom have the audacity of rejecting the foisted “new democratic leader” sock puppet, and intent on setting up their own government; of the repressive Islamic kind of, so rejecting the free beer tomorrow notions of “ocracy”, hailed as the only way to live by so many on this board and elsewhere.
    ,
    Similar to Hamas that is not democratic, because Israel thinks it is not! Although the Palestinians in Gaza did vote for it. The Kabuki of “democracy”, and its spread thereof through carpet bombings, somehow does not take into account the swishes of the indigenous populations, whom are so clearly deemed to be wrong about their choices of modes of governance.
    ,
    The fact is warmongers may choose to bite off more than they can chew if these carry on their current waves of aggression. Given the degree of chaos; Competitive shopping; Woman pepper sprayed fellow shoppers This of course, as we all know, is in the best secular traditions!
    ,
    The vilification of the Egyptians with a view to stifle their right to self determination, is to ensure the rule of sock-puppets in charge for the duration of the American New Century (however long that may be?). Is akin to turning a blind eye on the numbers killed in Yemen, in addtion to those killed in Bahrain, and of late more killings as the unrest spreads to Saudi itself; Deadly clash hits Saudi province .
    ,
    Arab spring may well have been hijacked, but the Arabs, are bent on going for; “let’s roll”!

  129. Interesting, Felix. I suspect the firm is a cutout to avoid disclosing who exactly is paying him, and for what. Where have I seen that before?
    .
    I don’t remember if anyone mentioned that Gould had been a member of the Joint Intelligence Committee. This looks as if it would have been during his two years in Washington:
    http://graphic.pepperdine.edu/news/2006/2006-09-28-britdiplomat.htm
    .
    Pepperdine is a Christian university, and the words “religious Right” spring unbidden to mind.

  130. Ruth,
    I wouldn’t know about any of that. I’m coldblooded.

  131. Jonathan Cook quoting Craig in the Palestine Chronicle
    http://palestinechronicle.com/view_article_details.php?id=17271

  132. It is widely reported (Indy, Telegraph, Guardian) that Werritty was debriefed by British intelligence. This last decade debrief was of course part of the precursor planning meeting to construct the Iranian election violent protest conspiracy that team Mossad’s subversion unit fabricated. This failed for a number of reasons not relevant here (those interested contact me) but was adaptable in a plot to overthrow Assad and destabilise Hezbollah.
    .
    British intelligence know (we can guess) that Iran’s intelligence is active in Syria. My source has revealed that MI6/CIA have been exhaustively working to gather proof from ‘ghosts’ they call ‘trainers’ dressed in Syrian security forces uniform and murdering and killing ordinary Syrian protesters.
    .
    To the extent the Iranian government is trying to impose a 2009-style reaction on Syria’s crackdown, it has clearly failed and now an explicitly organized militant faction of the Free Syrian Army (FSA), are being given organizational assistance by British Security.
    .
    I believe Werritty et al. working with Israel were/are contriving to start a war on Iran by shining a bright light on the FSA fighting with “Iranian Revolutionary guards” – ghosts made up from so called ‘green movement’ activists or ‘anti-regime’ defectors and traitors – Werritty’s ‘opposition groups’ armed to the teeth with Iranian/Russian automatic weapons.
    .
    I want to know where the wonga came from that paid for these weapons. I also charge Werritty with some organisation responsibility (he speaks Farsi) and I also want to know how and why this merry band of fighters are stationed in Turkey?
    .
    You have been busted and now the British public demands the truth.
    .
    Thank-you Craig

  133. Craig,

    You could resubmit your request but ask that the extent of the search be limited to what GOD has already had made available to him. The cost should be negligible since the search has already been done.

  134. Here is the link to Cook’s article on Murray’s findings in Al-Akhbar English. It appeared on wednesday.

    http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/matthew-gould-missing-link-%E2%80%9Crogue%E2%80%9D-uk-foreign-policy

  135. Antelope Grazer

    26 Nov, 2011 - 2:39 am

    Komodo
    What makes you think Robin Cook actually wanted to reform the FCO? He made a big song and dance about having an ‘ethical’ foreign policy, and that was just for show. Probably having ‘all three genders’ and so on is likewise.

  136. Is it absurd to think that the media will not touch your investigation because it is subject to a DA-notice?
    .
    And if, as seems evident, both the last and the present government were and are, respectively, keen to promote war against Iran, then are not all meetings between Zionists, spies, ambassadors, Israeli ministers, UK ministers, shadow or otherwise, and Iranian traitors which promote that objective entirely consistent with government policy and, therefore, entirely commendable from the Government’s point of view.
    .
    Which is not to say that those who oppose a war on Iran should not oppose and attempt to expose those who plot it, but merely to suggest that the odds on getting a government that is already worthy of commitment to the Hague for its war on Libya to admit anything in response to your inquiry seems essentially nil. If that is the case, bothering about FOI requests may be a waste of time, except insofar as the need for evasion may cause the government slight embarrassment. But war criminals seem not to embarrass easily.

  137. It’s a standard reply. You are paranoid.

  138. The company registered to that same address as Halfon’s Eucalyptus Leaves Ltd.
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    Fox Associate LLP / Albert Marcus Fox
    http://companycheck.co.uk/company/OC309435
    .
    All these others use the same address.
    {http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/902108955}

  139. Craig Chinless

    26 Nov, 2011 - 9:01 am

    “Talking about democracy – why were my comments deleted twice? Am I banned??”

    What on earth does democracy have to do with it? Do you know what “democracy” means?

    I suspect that you went to the kind of comprehensive “school” that Craig’s mates and former paymasters installed in this country.

    Wanker.

  140. Enoch,

    And do you contend it is standardly given at 11.31pm? As I said in a comment above, I have made a number of FOI requests – nostly involving a lot more work than this one – and I have never had that reply before. Of course it is a standard form of words sometimes used – but its use in this case is baffling.

  141. @ Craig Chinless

    While I despise your cheeky, pointless name and the general tone of your comment, I do agree that comments are being deleted without recourse. Nor are they recorded as being posted and deleted: they simply vanish. This is a great weakness of this blog which – in essence – has become a “me too’ club without any real debate. Pity.

  142. Liam Fox’s Facebook Page is worth a visit for the comments readers have left, like inviting him to come out of the closet.

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Liam-Fox/13948119719

  143. Emma, we probably all had comments deleted yesterday. I know I did. But it was explained that for the moment the focus should be strictly on the blog. So in a way I’m surprised that your last one and that of Craig Chinless are still up.

  144. deepgreenpuddock

    26 Nov, 2011 - 9:51 am

    There can be no doubt that you have touched a very sensitive spot and that the timely reply and the nature of the reasons given are , to put it mildly suspicious and with little doubt-spurious.

    The issue then comes to a point of asking whether making a false statement under the FOI act is actionable in any way. I am not familiar with the legislation.
    Is there any way tp ask for a justification of the rejection on cost grounds? Surely they have to make some statement qualifying their position.
    It must be very weak legislation (and more or less worthless) if some official can simply make a peremptory rejection of the request which touches on sensitive material on cost grounds, without having to justify his or her position.
    The problem here is that they have not used the justification for rejection of national security or some other critical matter that would preclude providing the information. So we must assume that to have done so is either dangerous or more easily unravelled under pressure or less defensible by a minister than the cost reason. Now that in itself is rather interesting as it suggests there is something improper here.
    My main experience of large public organisations is that they are incredibly bone headed. Under the least pressure they start to come apart and make the most feeble errors and simply resort to petty territoriality and authoritarian pronouncements even when these make little sense . This is always a surprise because such organisations
    appear so powerful and we make assumptions about power being smart. The head of the organisation is primarily sustained by the narcissism induced by the deference of subordinates and eventually has only this facade left, even when the person has shown considerable ability in achieving the position. O’Donell is certainly in a great self loving embrace as revealed by his use of the expression GOD as his mark. No doubt amusing once, after repetition such affectations simply become sinister. It is like the comedian howling with laughter at their own jokes or the lackeys who have no other option but to titter approvingly for the three hundredth time.

  145. Emma, whilst not having anything against anybody’s pointless names here, your or mine included, or the general tone of your reply, was it something you said to the issue?

  146. Enoch: Because Robin Cook was a (relatively) honest man.
    Mark:
    “To the extent the Iranian government is trying to impose a 2009-style reaction on Syria’s crackdown, it has clearly failed and now an explicitly organized militant faction of the Free Syrian Army (FSA), are being given organizational assistance by British Security.
    .
    I believe Werritty et al. working with Israel were/are contriving to start a war on Iran by shining a bright light on the FSA fighting with “Iranian Revolutionary guards” – ghosts made up from so called ‘green movement’ activists or ‘anti-regime’ defectors and traitors – Werritty’s ‘opposition groups’ armed to the teeth with Iranian/Russian automatic weapons.
    .
    I want to know where the wonga came from that paid for these weapons. I also charge Werritty with some organisation responsibility (he speaks Farsi) and I also want to know how and why this merry band of fighters are stationed in Turkey?”
    .
    These are extremely relevant questions, and I hope the matter will be given more attention, not least by Craig. To drift off topic for a second, you will see that some of the principals in this (notably Halfon) have developed an interest in the Kurds, who live in Syria, Iraq, Turkey and Iran, Formerly a tribal area, since Roman times wholly lawless, the area is held by the Kurds to be Kurdistan, and they want it. For years, Israel and probably the US have been “advising” the Kurdish MEK, who are fighting Iran from E. Iraq. They are, paradoxically, listed as a terror group by the US, not least because they are rather difficult to distinguish from the PKK, which has a history of planting bombs in Turkish tourist resorts; they share the same training bases, or used to. But the US is hoping to de-list them:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14533756
    No doubt that when the US/Israeli aim is accomplished, the formerly splendid chaps of the MEK will overnight be transformed into evil jihadists whose only aim is to destroy Western civilisation and who eat babies. So it goes.
    .

  147. For “Enoch”, above, read “Antelope Grazer”.

  148. Komodo, good point about the the courtship of the Kurds. Wasn’t Hazel Blears running a similar courtship for Blair? I thought it was komodo dragons that ate babies! LOL.

  149. More illumination here, with a map of “Kurdistan” – which has never been a state,or anything like one – and some fairly biased reporting by (I’m guessing) Mark Regev’s pet researcher…
    http://israelkurd.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=164:israel-kurd&catid=42:report
    The names Crouch and Buckingham have been mentioned in connection with Fox-Werrity; Buckingham has oil interests in the autonomous Kurdish region of Iraq, and donates to the Conservatives.

  150. “I thought it was komodo dragons that ate babies! LOL.”
    .
    I’d like to be able to say that was the Murdoch press again, but yes, we do. Our own, even.
    Re. Blears/Blaagh…I’m sure you’re right, but I’m trying to stay close to the topic.

  151. BBC Radio 4,The Week In Westminster…just been a discussion between Jonathan Powell and Kampfner about FOI…11.20 AM

    Probably be on iPlayer later.

  152. Mary:
    Eucalyptus Leaves: both the address you found and the Saxon House one are co-occupied by Fox Associate LLP. Fox is a chartered accountant. It’s just a cutout. Or maybe Fox (probably no relation) is Halfon’s accountant, in which case he’s a very generous man….

  153. Craig,this is directly from the Information Commissioner’s Office detailing the protocol for refusing a request.Seems to me your refuser has missed at least 4 of the necessary procedures.

    “If you have grounds for not releasing the information requested, you must issue a written refusal notice to the requester. The notice must explain:
    •what exemption applies and why;
    •the public interest considerations you have taken into account;
    •the internal appeals process, if one is offered; and
    •the requester’s right to complain to the ICO.
    The refusal notice must:
    •be in writing (email or letter);
    •state which exemption applies; and
    •explain why the exemption applies – including the public interest test if it is a qualified exemption. “

  154. Robert Halfon’s interest in Kurdistan:
    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmallparty/register/kurdistan-region-in-iraq.htm
    Michael Gove is a past chair, and note also Lord Trimble and Mike Gapes…both staunch supporters of Israel. A prediliction which almost defines upfront Kurdish sympathisers.

  155. ‘Enoch Powell’: As I said to ‘Julian’ on a previous thread, no, Craig is not mentally ill. In any case, better ‘paranoid’ than ‘dead’, wouldn’t you agree? And in this schema of shadow puppets, ‘Enoch’, you most certainly are the latter. Choose another name. May I suggest, ‘Adolf Hitler’?

  156. And this cover all for Israel in OUR Parliament. ‘You’ve registered. So that’s OK then.’
    .
    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmallparty/register/israel.htm

  157. Antelope Grazer

    26 Nov, 2011 - 12:29 pm

    Komodo: Because Robin Cook was a (relatively) honest man.
    .
    Pah!
    .
    http://www.zcommunications.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=8590

  158. Fair enough, Antelope. Once Blair got hold of the reins, all ethical considerations disappeared forever, and the lefties found themselves sidelined if they didn’t conform. Decisions were made by Blair without reference to the Cabinet, too. But,the FCO revamp wasn’t very highly publicised, and it is hard to see why pretending to do something, and not doing it, would have been preferable to just not doing it. Anyway, back to the topic.

  159. Thanks for that, Mary. While we’re on APPC;s, there is, to my surprise, an APPC on Iran, too.Compare and contrast the stated purpose of the Israel group:
    .

    To create a better understanding of Israel and to foster and promote links between Britain and Israel.
    .

    and that of the Iran group:
    .
    To inform and educate members of both Houses about issues surrounding the Islamic Republic of Iran.
    .
    *puts shoes on head and leaves room*

  160. Emma

    I never delete anything without explanation. Sometimes the software sticks things into a moderation queue – on what grounds it chooses them is sometimes baffling. Then it is a matter of when a meodrator looks – which at weekends can be a long time. There are 11 stuck in moderation at the minute and I am about to look at them.

    Nope, nothing from you, and nothing from you in spam or trash either.

  161. Objectives of APPC on Israel:
    .

    To create a better understanding of Israel and to foster and promote links between Britain and Israel.
    .
    Objectives pf APPC on Iran (yes, there is one):
    .
    To inform and educate members of both Houses about issues surrounding the Islamic Republic of Iran.
    .
    See what they did there?

  162. Komodo – It is clear to me you have an understanding of the strategy involved however convoluted it appears – deception is the game and unfortunately we are not the masters of this art.
    .
    Clearly however the ‘game’ has to be played in the international arena and rules exist and have to be obeyed. Plunder, pilfering and murder abuse the international covenant of political and tactful discourse. To directly attack a sovereign nation, especially a non-aggressive Iran on weak assumptions, invalidated and unconvincing arguments of nuclear blitzkrieg and implausible threats to world peace is difficult to justify.
    .
    Deception is de rigeur and I will attempt to rupture that deception at whatever costs, but I cannot do that alone, I need help.

  163. Komodo,
    To inform and educate members of both Houses about issues surrounding the Islamic Republic of Iran

    Hence the endless “observations” and trite statements; “Repressive Iranian regime”, as so often seen on these pages. As well as being seen in the beauty parade of the “democratic” miss world contest. Evidently the hijab covered Iran is a darn “dictatorship”, and a poopy pants to boot.
    ,
    Heard this from a Prof. ; A Lynch Mob is the best expression of Democracy. After all it is composed of a majority intent on lynching one man!
    ,
    So far as the accountability and checks and balances go, don’t talk about the Israeli nukes. Why it is not in NPT? Who gave the nukes to Israel? That is in direct contravention of the NPT (ie the signatories whom supplied the non signatory to the NPT with nukes). Why Werrity an unprofessional carpetbagger has been meeting so many times with ambassador Gould and Secretary Liam Fox? The same bunch attending dinners with the same none NPT Signatory to debate attacking a Signatory to NPT, are just antisemitic tropes won’t you say?
    ,
    We all know how repressive Islam is and what poppy pants Islamists are, because we all are so awfully informed; how , by whom, and where? these do not matter, we know that we are in the know, and that is what matters!

  164. Mark: I’m learning what to look for, on the basis that deception is a core principle – “by deception shalt thou wage war!” -as they say in Tel Aviv. The enemy of deception is the truth in conjunction with publicity. We all need help…don’t let its absence stop you, however. A loose association of individuals is harder to suppress, even by rumour and innuendo, than an organised group. The minute you mass under a common banner, it is possible to demonise the banner. If individuals happen to agree on an issue, they have to be chased individually. Almost certainly, I disagree strongly with you on other issues (I may have met you on a Russian forum – if so, make that “certainly”)….and that is a strong point as far as our zone of agreement goes. It is very difficult for Them to identify your views and mine as belonging to a single targetable stereotype (“hippies”, “Islamists”, “doglovers”) and attack the stereotype.
    .
    Sorry about the OT, Craig. I’ll shut up for a bit now.

  165. @ Mark Golding

    “deception is the game and unfortunately we are not the masters of this art.”

    Mark,who are the masters of the art if they are so predictable and poor at the deception that most people can see through it? I’d say they are less masters of the art more chancers,cack-handed and entirely predictable.

  166. @Jives:
    “Mark,who are the masters of the art if they are so predictable and poor at the deception that most people can see through it? I’d say they are less masters of the art more chancers,cack-handed and entirely predictable.”
    .
    But Jives, most people /can’t/ see through it: they don’t realise there’s anything to see through. What are two dozen regular commenters on Craig M’s site compared to the millions who swallow everything they’re told by the mainstream media? I’ve been ridiculed and called a conspiracy theorist by educated friends for suggesting that the agenda of the powers that be is not what it seems and that they /are not on our side/.
    .
    I am pessimistic that the Government’s real agenda can be brought to light, and even more pessimistic as to what good it would do anyway. In an energy-constrained and economically devastated future, Britain has alarmingly few cards to play except joining the USA in its adventures and hoping it gets thrown some bones.
    .
    Sorry if that sounds excessively negative, but it’s just how things look to me.

  167. Franz,

    I understand what you’re saying but you shouldn’t be pessimistic,
    Consider the numbers who marched against the Iraq war etc. Ok it didnt stop the war going ahead but i think,particularly in the internet age the numbers are growing.Consider the Occupy movementetc.There’s alot more people out there who deride/ignore the MSM and that number is surely growing.

    Be positive!

  168. Mark
    You have developed a poetic brevity which leaves things half-explained. I have heard the snipers in Syria described as mossad, co-religionists of Assad, Iranian, and Saudi-backed AlQaida.
    I feel safer in the zone of ‘a plague on all your houses’ and to assume for the moment at least that all sources are lying.
    Logically, I agree with Assad when he says that an attack inside his country will set the Middle-East on fire, because people in the region have experienced the ongoing ‘fitna’/anarchy in Iraq and everyone is united against the USUK should they interfere as they have done in Libya.
    But anything to do with Zionism and Israel has to be viewed through the religious kaleidoscope as well. Jewish tribes had moved to near Mecca in anticipation of the Great Prophet who is to come’ King James Bible talking about Muhammad SAW.
    They also know that Jesus pbuh is destined soon to return to this earth in Damascus. Is it conceivable that the Zionists actually believe that they can con Jesus pbuh and God that they are really good guys, much maligned? Maybe they will allow a relatively peaceful exchange of power to an Islamic government to collect Brownie points against all the squillions of their other sins. Orthodox Islam is increasingly looking like Orthodox
    Judaism. Not just neighbours, but good friends?

  169. Antelope Grazer,
    .
    Maybe we are all responsible for the genocide in East Timor, the US/UK sanctions on Iraq, the ’98 Iraq bombing and the ’99 bombing on Serbia. I cannot justify these actions, they were plainly wrong. These horrors have been revealed to us. Our actions at the time were seized by ignorance, hidden by propaganda and entombed by priority. Yet I believe we are not judged by our actions and neither should Robin Cook RIP. It is our reactions that expose who we are and explain our self.
    .
    The ‘falling towers’ changed everything, the ‘war on lies’ changed everything; our *reaction* to these abominable realities testifies to our humanity; we can see through a window opening on hell.
    .
    How do you react? Do you now close the curtains, turn on the lights and illuminate your own diminutive world protected in your own limited box?.
    .
    If we do then I suggest our house burns down around us, in the flames of sedition exposing a scorched and lifeless world.

  170. Mark:
    “Is it conceivable that the Zionists actually believe that they can con Jesus pbuh and God that they are really good guys, much maligned?”
    .
    I’ve met quite a few religious people who believe that their religion justifies all their acts. In fact I’ve come to the conclusion that this kind of arrogant self-delusion is the norm in human beings. And so yes, I think they probably do believe they will be “saved”.
    .
    I’m not religious myself, but I believe there is some kind of truth to the dictum that the meek shall inherit the earth – not in the literal sense, but on some spiritual level.

  171. (Sorry, I meant to address my previous comment to Anno, not Mark.)

  172. I don’t know much about D. Milliband but one incident has stuck in my mind. During his period as Foreign Secretary, he gave an interview on BBC radio in connection with a massacre of Jews that occurred during WWII. I was surprised to hear him becoming almost hysterical in his responses and have subsequently wondered about where his loyalties lie in relation to British interests vs. Israel’s

  173. I am not sure if tis link has been reported buthere it is:

    Is Britain Plotting With Israel to Attack Iran?
    by JONATHAN COOK

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/11/25/is-britain-plotting-with-israel-to-attack-iran/

    A report based mainly on your investigations.

  174. Rob The Milibands’ family name is Adolphe. {http://radioislam.org/islam/english/jewishp/britain/miliband_jewish.htm}
    Their father changed it to Miliband. They have relatives in Israel, some living in West Bank settlements.
    .
    http://website.thejc.com/home.aspx?AId=56719&ATypeId=1&search=true2&srchstr=miliband&srchtxt=0&srchhead=1&srchauthor=0&srchsandp=0&scsrch=0

  175. Mary
    Jonathon Cook is mainstream UK intelligence. He believes that Shi’a Islam is less dangerous than Saudi, what he calls, Wahabism, because the latter is more intellectual and more of a challenge to Western ideology. I’m sorry I don’t have a reference but I heard/read him say that just the other day.
    He is part and parcel of the UK special forces sniping from rooftops in Syria, and not even remotely objective. He is part and parcel of the catastrophe of UK divide and rule policy in Northern Ireland, where the divisions sown will take many generations to overcome.
    UK policy is to torture its enemies mercilessly with indiscriminate false flag violence that causes sectarian pain.
    The plan in Syria is the same as Libya, for the ultra-political groups of all parties, Mossad, UK intelligence, war- and prison-hardened Islamists, to create chaos and an opportunity to sieze power from the diplomatic tentacles of all other interested parties, Iran, Saudi, Turkey, Iraq, Israel.
    The UK hosts the troublemakers of the whole world, on the pretext of political asylum, but in the hope of fashioning future colonial power through their discontented guests.
    It’s an expensive operation, but well worth it in their eyes because they retain influence in places they should have lost influence in at the end of the last world war.
    If your driving licence has expired, you have to renew it. Power in the world has to be phoenixed in the same way, through regular destruction of civilians by fire.

  176. Methuselah Now

    27 Nov, 2011 - 9:54 am

    Hi,

    Craig, as a former ambassador, surely you aren’t so naive.

    It’s always been the plan. If this were to be revealed, then so what, the people are lazy and stupid, their consent can be manufactured any which way, even the once mighty anti-establishment C4 News has got lost up its own twittering arehole, more ready to feed the narrative of the establishment, from Syria, Libya, iran, uk terrorism, et al.

    You’ve been beavering away on this story for some time now, yet not only has it not been touched by the mainstream media, but all those self-involved naval gazers on the internet, who are so ready to pounce when there’s a story about a celebrity having additional relationships, or who get stuck in lifts, and would claim to be soh so liberal and believers in truth and justice, are equally no where to be seen.

    Keep going, keep the fight and the light alive – the MP’s expenses story took Heather Brooke’s many years, where she faced intimidation/cost in one form or another, almost as an individual, before it was revealed fully, and with the Telegraph getting much of the credit; Their were rumours about the Hackgate crisis going on from quite early on its execution, becoming a story about 4 years ago, and almost completely ignored, with the editor of the guardian still being restrained in seeing the worst of the perpetrators, but eventually with enough determination, the truth will out.

    Good Luck!

    In the meantime, here’s an interesting video of how this is all part of one unstoppable force and plan.

    http://www.salon.com/2011/11/26/wes_clark_and_the_neocon_dream/singleton

    Yours kindly,

    MN

  177. Arsene Wenger

    27 Nov, 2011 - 1:10 pm

    Mary
    The Milibands’ family name is Adolphe.
    Do you mean this sentence?
    His father Ralph changed his name from Adolphe when he arrived in England
    I think you’ll find it was his given name which he changed. He was not called Ralph Adolphe.

  178. So Gould, not only an Israeli agent, but also a Conservative one. The Conservatives most likely had all kinds of agreements in place, most likely gave Fox free reign. Werrity a go between, a middleman between Anglo-American zio-con agents plotting against Iran. Traitors

  179. Hey Franz: I got that impression from PE too. PE has been pushing the limits when it comes to these ‘super-injunctions’, and has been riding Judge Eady quite hard for a while. All good work, but not the sort of establishment-destroying bombshells to which we are entitled, considering the depths of the crimes, and the culpability of the war criminals at liberty these days.
    .
    That is interesting about the foam pie. Perhaps it’s a gentle reminder to the rest of us to sit down and shut up. After all, if they can allow that sort of thing to go down on live television in the very heart of the World’s Democracy , how can they hope to protect the rest of us, particularly if we go astray? Maybe we just shouldn’t meddle too much, or ask unwelcome questions.

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