27 thoughts on “Saddam Hussein

  • MJ

    Moronic nutjob comment specially for Larry: this picture illustrates well why some people maintain it wasn’t really Saddam Hussein who was captured and tried. It’s those teeth, the lower set in particular. They’re very uneven. Pictures of the real Saddam show him to have very even, expensively capped teeth.

  • Larry from St. Louis

    MJ, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt – I’m sure that you’re smart enough not to believe that.

  • tony_opmoc

    MJ,

    Thats an interesting theory, that I had not previously considered, but I have yet to find a convincing old high definition photo of him smiling.

    Also if it was an actor he put on a very convincing performance at his trial and execution.

    However so did Gary Glitter – or rather actor Hilton McRae

    digital-tv.co.uk/blog/channel-4-to-air-fictional-gary-glitter-drama.html

    I guess anything can be faked.

    Someone posted a link here

    http://julyseventh.co.uk/

    The investigation and conclusions of “A Forensic Analysis of the 7/7 London Bombings by David Minahan”

    Did my head in, such that I am totally confused and don’t know what to believe

    Conclusions

    The primary purpose of this exercise has been to collate information in as structured a form as possible so that a reader can make up his or her mind as to the implications.

    The writer himself has come to the startling conclusion that there were in all probability eight explosions in the Capital on the 7th July in addition to the four publicly acknowledged; and that there is a possibility this figure may be as high as seventeen.

    The lower estimate would be correct if the blasts referred to in the following folders were one and the same (ie a single explosion at each group of sites) (index numbers 1 & 2) (3, 4, 5 & 6) (7 & 8) (10 & 11) (22 & 25) and if there was a device on a train between Kings Cross and Euston Square; one additional bus bomb; and a single explosion at Kings Cross Station!

    If, however, there were individual explosions at all the locations specified in the groups above, plus one at Old Street and a total of three bus explosions (as was originally reported) then the higher figure emerges.

    Conceivably the total could be even greater as there are some indications that there may have been an explosion on a Northern line train coming into Kings Cross; and in an unspecified building in the Euston area.

    There are also a number of “second hand” accounts of a shooting at Canary Wharf.

    There is little doubt that (as outlined in the “advance warnings” folders 12 & 13) the authorities knew in advance that something was going on. It is also beyond dispute that strenuous efforts were made to limit media reporting (28 & 29) not least in the case of the two Benton sisters from Kentucky (exhibit MR18).

    Was there concern at what they saw, or didn’t see?

    Motivation

    If the above conclusions are even partly correct the question arises as to why the “powers that be” should embark upon such an extraordinary programme of subterfuge?

    Even the most enthusiastic conspiracy theorist must surely admit that it would be absurd for anybody to embark on a ‘false flag” type of operation and then go to great lengths to hide the success of it.

    Is it more likely that the explanation stems from a desire, on the part of the government, or the security services, or both, to cover their backs and not to be seen to have ‘egg on their faces’?

    About the Dossier’s Author, David Minahan

    David writes:

    “I was by occupation a claims investigator for an insurance company and later a leading firm of solicitors so I have some experience of “forensic” matters. I was also some years ago the National President of a major Trade Union (MSF now merged with the AEEU to form Amicus).

    I am convinced that there has been a massive cover up and campaign of disinformation about this matter.”

    Tony

  • Polo

    Anyone consider a troll count meter on this site worthwhile, particularly in the run-up to a UK general election.

    In passing, the frequency of Larry’s “Fuck you” brings punctuation to new heights.

  • Anonymous

    “Anyone consider a troll count meter on this site worthwhile, particularly in the run-up to a UK general election.”

    I’ve seen blogsites where a moderator got annoyed enough to do stuff with checking which names were coming out of which IP addresses; in some cases some of them were indeed registered to organisations that might have been thought to have an interest, but I forget the details.

    And it’d be academic, anyway, if Craig says “all comments welcome”. (second thoughts – not that academic means boring, necessarily. Someone with some tech, statistical skills and access to the logs, might see some interesting things.)

    We’ll just have to learn to ignore, or enjoy the speculation. Think of it as a kind of extended Turing test.

  • Richard Robinson

    “We’ll just have to learn to ignore, or enjoy the speculation. Think of it as a kind of extended Turing test.”

    Oh, bleargh. That was not a good time to let my name run away again. Me, sorry.

  • Richard Robinson

    “hey Richard I worked out a way to beat the Turing test :)”

    Refuse to say anything ?

  • technicolour

    omigod. clark! look, it doesn’t matter that you’re not a humanoid. i bet you have seen starships exploding off the coasts of orion

    🙂

  • Anonymous

    I’ve seen things you people would not believe. Attacked ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time… like tears in rain… Time to die.

  • dreoilin

    “In passing, the frequency of Larry’s “Fuck you” brings punctuation to new heights.”

    –Polo

    I think it’s the first time I’ve seen anyone do that here, but I could be wrong.

  • Rob Lewis

    @dreolin: “I think it’s the first time I’ve seen anyone do that here” – angrysoba fuck you’d someone the other week. Forget who. Been awful hot in here recently – inversely proportional to the weather.

    Anyway, point is, look at the photo. Saddam Hussein looks great. The stylists provided by the occupying coalition, even though they can’t have been trying that hard, achieved more in a couple of weeks than the Baathis regime ever did.

  • Clark

    Technicolour,

    if you’re referring to the Bladerunner quote, I found it on IMDB by googling the first line. Yeah, I love Batty’s final speech.

    Think I’ll sign off for a bit. It’s nice again here now Craig’s back.

    Larry?

    if you want that chat you’d best say so in the next minute or two, or I’m off.

  • Richard Robinson

    “hey Richard I worked out a way to beat the Turing test :)” Refuse to say anything ?

    Of course, a human could fail it too. But that’s fine – the more they fool me that they’re a robot, the less I lose by treating them as one.

  • Richard Robinson

    “Mmm, would say the more you lose by treating anyone potentially human as a robot…”

    Yes, I thought I might have to clarify that, or qualify it, or think harder, or something.

    … So I did, and spent, ooh, minutes typing a woffly response which I then decided I didn’t like. Perhaps I’m talking about my repsonse to a perception of whether the other party is treating me as a human, or engaging in mechanical behaviour, operating to some kind of script, that’s going to come out the same regardless of what I say.

  • technickour

    yep, this is the difference (TM)

    Fascinating insight into our own stuff, though, maybe.

  • Richard Robinson

    “yep, this is the difference (TM)

    Fascinating insight into our own stuff, though, maybe.”

    I find it interesting, yes. Which bits of what we do can be automated (described, in terms a machine can deal with), and which bits just won’t go ? I offer no grand conclusions, but it’s given me much more appreciation for the sheer unlikelihood of even the most predictable of humans (going by the last few threads, I reckon 80% or 90% of Larry would be possible to write, but the remainder would defeat me; as would the question of “why ?”. Ahem. Sorry).

    You know ‘computer’ used to be the word for a human who did arithmetic for a job ?

    “woffly” – you’re welcome 🙂

  • angrysoba

    “@dreolin: “I think it’s the first time I’ve seen anyone do that here” – angrysoba fuck you’d someone the other week. Forget who. Been awful hot in here recently – inversely proportional to the weather.”

    Yeah that was to someone who said they hoped to see a civilian airliner blown up and two hundred passengers offed. A reasonable response on my part under the circumstances. I forget who it was too, though.

    I used a similar response to Jadumkopf who was falling in with Apostate and Steelback and denying the Holocaust.

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