It is a sign of the terrible decline of Britain’s “democratic” system that figures as insignificant as Hoon and Hewitt should ever have held political office. The only reaction I have to this “crisis” is that it is a reminder how deeply unattractive are the entire New Labour cast being paraded before us.
Is this attack on Brown motivated by revulsion at endless war on weak countries, at the attack on civil liberties at home, at the incredible amount of debt loaded on ordinary people to bale out the bankers, at the widest ever gap between rich and poor in this country?
No! They talk only about the chances of Labour MPs and the thousands of other Labour hacks sponging off the taxpayers, to keep their jobs and their noses in the trough. It is not about policy at all, or anything that benefits you or me. It is about New Labour politicos’ personal access to money and power.
You are all a bunch of troughing, hypocritical, war criminals. Fuck off New Labour, all of you.
Off topic, but anyway. See you’re addressing the Scottish Independence Convention soon. I won’t be able to attend, but if I could this would be my question for you: in the midst of all the awfulness we see, does anything give you cause for optimism? You see, my answer is ‘no’. Maybe you can make a post out of your answer.
“You are all a bunch of troughing, hypocritical, war criminals. Fuck off New Labour, all of you.”
Couldn’t have put it better myself. The only decent New Labour minister died on a country walk.
Indeed Tony and his constutuency is lloking into a void for the next 6 month, they are without any representation whatsoever. NoLabour has invoked the six month rule, which is not a rule but a convention, leaving them in limbo to sort out their own casework. the other main parties must have agreed to this otherwise they would be saying something, but representing people does not seem important anymore to them, instead its back stabbing and self serving power games.
have they realised that they are talking to themselves?
ingo,
Last February, my Son got stuck in the snow in his car overnight with his girlfriend, and I was extremely worried they were going to freeze to death.
As a result he has bought some snow chains and they do work exceedingly well.
Whilst I probably agree with you on the vast majority of political issues, I will not be voting for anyone who believes the nonsense of Global Warming, nor anyone on the Right. This basically means that, so far as I can tell their is absolutely no one that represents my political views. If the Green Party admitted that Global Warming was a load of nonsense and that we need to re-open coal mines and build new coal and nuclear power stations, and take sensible measures to protect the environment as well as humans then I may again vote Green.
I accept that the vast majority of Global Warming believers are sincere people, who passionately care about saving the planet. They care so much that thousands are prepared to demonstrate, spend days at climate camps, do their utmost to prevent power stations being built, and are even prepared to go to jail.
They have had enormous success, not only in preventing power stations being built, but in convincing politicians in Governments and much of the General Public, That Global Warming is Happenning, and is caused by CO2, and the effects will be catastrophic as the planet reaches a tipping point and warms uncontrollably.
But its all lies, fraud and religious junk science.
The effects however will be catastrophic. Not because the planet is warming, and not because CO2 is a problem, but because policy makers who make long term decisions, believe the propaganda to be true, and are implementing totally disastrous policies that will literally kill Billions of People.
You may believe that such Genocide is necessary in order to save the planet, but how can you believe anything from the originators of such blatant lies.
With regards to renewable energy, well the UK Government and much of Europe are its main proponents.
The only problem is that it doesn’t work at all when you most need it.
In the UK, vast numbers of conventional power stations are scheduled to be closed down, because they are old and worn out. They are being replaced by vast numbers of windmills.
Yet in the winter in the UK, sometimes there is an anti-cyclone (an area of high pressure) that lasts for as long as 3 months. This happenned in 1963, and has happenned several times over the last few hundred years. It may well be happenning now. In such conditions, there is no wind – for months. Windmills generate no energy.
2-300 years ago, we were in a mini ice age, where it was so cold for months that the Thames froze solid, and even much of the English Channel.
The UK population then was a tiny percentage of what it is now – less than 5 Million (Now over 60 Million due to mass immigration) and there was sufficient trees for wood to burn, and sufficient food stocks to keep most of the population alive.
With current policies, if we get more exceedingly cold winters, then many Millions of People will Freeze to death in The UK. The wind won’t keep them warm, the supply of gas from Russia may well be cut off, and over 500 years worth of coal will be left buried in the ground whilst the old coal power stations have been dismantled and not replaced.
This is a Crime Against Humanity. The Planet is Not Short of Energy, but is Controlled By Genocidal Psychopaths who have got much of the population voting for their own extinction on propaganda of blatant proven lies.
Coal may be black horrible stuff, but it has an enormous concentration of energy. Whilst the other contaminants are already removed from coal burnt in power stations, the CO2 does not have to be removed because we need much more of it in the atmosphere. I realise this will sound like heresy, but it is true. We Need More CO2, Not Less.
The Climate is Controlled by Activity on The Sun, which has entered a period of very low activity with hardly any Sunspots. People who observe the activity of The Sun, accurately predicted the very cold winters of the past two years, whilst the Global Warmers with their computer models got it totally wrong. They have now been proved to, not only be wrong but criminally fraudulent by the Climategate revelations.
Forget all their propaganda and educate yourself with the facts. We need to be prepared for the very worst climate change and we should be opening up new coal mines and building new Nuclear Power Stations. The alternative is Mass Death.
Tony
go buy yourself a set of yak trax for the icy conditions £20, and they strap onto the soles of your boots, and no i dont have shares.
go google them…
Couldnt agree more Craig.
Nu Labour Bastard SCUM.
Hoon is truly a low low reptile.
Disgusting.
anno,
Thanks – I was not aware that Israel ‘gave nuclear technology to Iran’ – but I wholeheartedly agree with you — ‘The pustulent Hoon with his permanent conscienceless smirk and legal training has calculated that there is more chance of a continuation of the evil and illegal invasions of the Blair years under Cameron than under Brown.
Such determined loyalty to his Zio-sponsors would be well rewarded, even if the insurrection to remove Brown as P.M., did not succeed.’
This is probably the most important statement of 2010 and MUST be conveyed to every educated Brit. in the land.
MI6 is struggling to contain constant pressure from Zio-‘friends of Israel’ to ‘back’ DC, effectively using ‘black-mail’ by sighting certain past ‘Blairite’ events that would be unproductive to mention here.
I am also ‘interested’ in how Gordon Brown will proceed and this will influence my ‘modus operandi’ in the lead up to the election.
Sir William Patey, who was British ambassador to Baghdad from 2005 to 2006, revealed how Tony Bliar was in a ‘state of panic’ to stabilise Iraq. Due to give evidence on February 5th Blair is talking to Alastair Cambell, Jonathan Powell and possibly Lord Goldsmith – WHY – trying to get your story straight Mr Blair – I hope I get a seat – I condemned you at Walton High remember? I will condemn you again – war criminal and blatant liar.
Tony Optomoc, coal and oil are for pussies who don’t want to move away from their warm and comfy profits.
the future is desertec, CSP.
There are so many ways to generate energy that it is a crime not to consider as many as possible.
I am not a Gren party member anymore, but have been for 34 years. I shunned away from the dogmatioc approach and the centralisation of decision making vs. decentralisation.
Schumachers messages are very valid and I shall leave yopu with this.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8437703.stm
The isss has a long record of scientific arctic excellence and their messages are stark but not alarmist, enjoy
Tony Optomoc, coal and oil are for pussies who don’t want to move away from their warm and comfy profits.
the future is desertec, CSP.
There are so many ways to generate energy that it is a crime not to consider as many as possible.
I am not a Gren party member anymore, but have been for 34 years. I shunned away from the dogmatioc approach and the centralisation of decision making vs. decentralisation.
Schumachers messages are very valid and I shall leave yopu with this.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8437703.stm
The isss has a long record of scientific arctic excellence and their messages are stark but not alarmist, enjoy
Off topic again – sorry – my son (who has ADHD) but great insight found this:
Great minds behind the ‘underpants’ bomber – On 20th January 2009 an announcement, prominently featured in select Internet websites, said that al-Qaeda, the alleged global terrorist organization created by the late CIA-trained Saudi, Osama bin Laden, had opened a major new branch in Yemen for both Yemen and Saudi operations lead by Nasir al-Wahayshi.
A Saudi national, former Guantanamo detainee (Number 372) Abu-Sayyaf al-Shihri, would serve as al-Wahayshi’s deputy and Abu-al-Harith Muhammad al-Awfi, Guantanamo detainee (Number 333) as field commander. These high ranking graduates we know had been set up and trained by the CIA and Pentagon interrogators using severe torture to set up a sleeper cell in Yemen.
The group promised to take the jihad from Yemen to Israel to “liberate” Muslim holy sites and Gaza, something that would likely detonate World War III if anyone were mad enough to do it.
Yemen government leader Saleh had claimed the Southern Movement and al Qaeda are one and the same, a convenient way to insure backing from Washington.
According to US intelligence reports, there are a grand total of perhaps 200 al Qaeda members in southern Yemen. (Abigail Hauslohner)
The emergence of a tiny but well-publicized al Qaeda in southern Yemen amid what observers call a broad, popular-based Southern Movement front that eschews the radical global agenda of al Qaeda, serves to give the Pentagon a kind of ‘casus belli’ to escalate US military operations in the strategic region.
Now the Christmas Day Detroit bomber drama gives new life to Washington’s “War on Terror” campaign in Yemen.
Obama has now offered military assistance to the Saleh Yemen government. (Strategy for oil?)
Okay BS scaleometre is coming off at the deep end here up north, time for you Mr Murray to spearhead another push to claim back our democracy.
Here goes….why not create a base line questionnaire in which we can pass on to our new prospective politicians, so under:
Finance
1) Would you implement a a procedure like http://www.taf.org in the UK? if Yes when will it be implemented?
2) Would you withhold funds to the EU until full accounting practices had been implemented?
UN
1) Would you investigate War Crimes ‘tourture’ by UK Citizens.
EU
1) Would you seek a referendum on joining the EU? When?
UK
1) When would you set up an enquiry into the 7/11 bombings?
The list is obviously endless be there could be a whole host of things we could agree on that should go in there…..
@anno: “The UK political question in my mind is whether Gordon Brown would be able to refuse to collaborate with Obama in an attack on Iran from Israel or directly, sometime soon in 2010.”
Yes, early dates are being predicted, but tunnelling by Afghanistan is creating a problem for would-be attackers.
“Iran Shielding Its Nuclear Efforts in Maze of Tunnels” –
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/06/world/middleeast/06sanctions.html?hp
ingo,
desertec, CSP…
Great in theory, but the numbers do not work..I did do Pure Physics and Maths..
Even if it did work such energy should be used locally in the country of origin. Distributing it to Europe is Star Trek stuff – but it won’t work numberwise. Its all a matter of scale.
Sure electricity can be moved from a Concentrated Solar Power Station in The Desert in North Africa….
But its a Volume thing
There is an enormous diference between
10,100,1000…etc
and I am completely useless in counting in multiples of 10 as most people are.
I coundn’t handle the sums in Italy when I was 9 years old. It was about 1,000,000 Lira to £1…
And then in Turkey – it got even sillier…
In some places of the world you get such an enormous wad of paper for a quid, you think no one locally will take it seriously
I was once in a Rural Part of India and I tried to give a tip that was the equivalent of an English Pound and he wouldn’t accept it…
Because he thought I was trying to give the equivalent of well over £100 for a coconut…
Same with Solar Power…
Sure it works or we wouldn’t be here
In my experience, humans are a blessing to the planet earth, but some really evil cunts are trying to destroy both the human race and our planet, and it is they who are in control.
We may move permanently to rural India or Thailand , once our Kid’s lives are settled and they are truly Independent of Us their Parents
The entire Philosophy and Way of Life is Just So Much Superior. So long as you have enough, why do you want more?
It doesn’t matter if it takes a long time, just talk and relax, whatever else do you want to do?
And whilst I used to love the snow when I was a kid, and have taken some fantastic photos and videos today, soon the fresh snow will start to melt and then turn to sheer ice and I am not as fast on my feet at correcting an involuntary slide as I once was and would rather risk the odd moszuito instead.
You could ask Craig why he is not using Solar Power in Ghana by the way and at least suggest solar cookers for remote areas where he can’t get electricity to…
Solar cookers work and are much better than cooking using animal shit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cooker
Tony
Suhayl Saadi
I don’t see any answer to Dreoilin’s question.
If its object is allowed stand, it is very close to a racist comment.
Suhayl,
Let me try and explain.
I thought Dublin would be much the same as London…
Yet not only was the weather as different as if we had travelled over 1,000 miles, so was the Cultural Difference
People were just so incredibly Nice and Friendly and went out of their way to be Generous and Welcoming To Us in Dublin
And we thought we knew something about Irish people and the history of the Irish
Its not a question of Race
Its just Irish people in Ireland are totally different to anything you might expect
Tony
The election battle must be really in action now – the New Labour troll ‘eddie’ has resurfaced.
Hi eddie, hows it hanging me old fuckwit.
Millbank must be really draughty this time of year.
Tony: Good thing you’re white, eh mate? Otherwise you might have got a rather less than incredibly Nice and Friendly reception. And that’s based on personal experience, and in no way biased against yourself.
How to annoy an American NAZI
True Liberals Do Not Support The Wars Of The American Right
They just talk bollocks to each other sat in their wealthy mansions about how aweful Americans are to People with Dark Skins who live in Foreign Lands.
Of Course they don’t actually send ANY of their Sons and Daughters to Fight These Wars
And They Do Absolutely NOTHING To Stop The Evil Right Who Do
You See, I am sat Here in England from a Very Poor Working Class Background Observing Americans From Afar
Is Their Much Difference Between Americans
So Far as I Can Tell, Americans are The Most Ignorant Horrible People in The World
Who Have Got Their Heads So Stuck Up Their Own Arseholes – They Just Want The Chinese To Feed Them By Tube Through Any Orifice Still Open
Lets Face It
You Don’t Give a Fuck About Other Americans Let Alone The Rag Heads in Foreign Lands You Are Bombing To Fuck By Remote Control From a Hollywood Studio For a Laugh in Between Takes.
Why Not Take a Real Break and Go and Distribute Solar Cookers in Foreign Lands
And Build Some Real Infrastructure To Deliver Clean Water and Sewage
You know the kind of things that English Kids Do
when they are Teenagers
American Teenagers Just Play Computer Games and Join The Army To Kill The Rag Heads That They Hate Cos They Did 9/11 and are Terrorising them in Kentucky
For Fucks Sake
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Tony
The Irish are Much Nicer
…lets be kind to eddie, he has provided us at least with some entertainment if not enlightenment, soon No Liebour will be out in the wilderness for an eternity, he will be useless to them and put outside with the other empty bottles when the party is finally over…
Funny that Jono Woss is leaving the beeb pretty much at the same time that gordo will be leaving number 10, talk about rats deserting a sinking ship…
And as regards our local police, whilst I have totally slagged them off on occasion, for actually doing what Tony Blair told them to do to collect all the local teenagers DNA by arresting them for doing nothing other than just walking down the street…
They did pay us a visit a couple of days ago – like they did with all our neighbours and they were completely lovely
And in far more serious cases they have been completely utterley brilliant
I can only go from my own personal experience – because everything you read even in the local press is not the entire truth – sometimes for exceedingly good reasons
My Wife and I and our Children and The Police sometimes find ourselves working with each other to protect completely Innocent People. It’s Never Planned, but in my own personal experience when something horrible happens, the police, the ambulance service, the fire brigade, the doctors and nurses – are just so completely fucking wonderful that you realise that what you read in the press and see on TV bears little relation to reality.
Tony
For many years my Wife was a Registered Childminder after she gave up her job working in a bank because She wanted to be a Mother at Home looking after our Babies…
It took a Year of Police and Loads of Other Checks of Both of Us Before she got Her Registration
Some of the Checks on Me were attempts to completely wind me up to provoke a violent reaction (which never worked) – sometimes by phone and sometimes by turning up at my door (such activities were subcontracted)
I think such checks are completely appropriate
Though I was never much involved with how my Wife looked after all these Children..I was away at Work..
And over The Years it will have been well over 20 Children. I was there in Our House.
I was My Wife’s Husband and The Father of Our Children…
Our Children Grew Up and went to Primary School – and of Course Brought Their Friends Back To Our Home
They Then Went To Secondary School (An Ordinary Comprehensive – Well Actually It is Really Good – (Far Better Than The Local Grammar Schools) and of Course Brought Their Friends Back To Our Home…
Which was perfectly O.K. and acceptable by everyone – All The Parents Knew Where All Their Kids Were – They Knew They Were Safe – Because They Knew My Wife and Our Home and The Other Kids…
But Our Kids Met Other Kids at School – and Some of Them Were Being Beaten Shitless By Their Parents who We Didn’t Know
Our Children Had Always Seen Our Home as a Place of Sanctuary and Love and Asked Us
When the first time it happenned…
The Girl had been beaten Black and Blue – By Her Mother…(though we didn’t know that then)
She Was 15 years Old…
And Was Going To Runaway
My Wife Was Completely Wonderful With Her
She instantly lost 30 years and was a 15 year old girl at exactly the same level
She may have been 45 years old but became 15 and said I am coming with you tomorrow. I want to come with you too…
But not now
Well of course we had to provide Sanctuary and give her the time and space and support to make her feel safe. Our kids were completely wonderful
I went into an instant panic – but didn’t do anything except explain the situation to my friend and his wife who were fostering teenagers of the same age..
So we gave her Sanctuary and after a couple of days we said you really do need to phone the Police…
A day or so later when it was getting silly with wanted posters everywhere…she said to My Wife can you phone The Police For Me…
So they came round with the social services – and wanted to take her back home where her mother was beating her to shit…
And then they eventually realised it was
not safe to do so – after seeing her bruises…
So they asked us if we can look after her for a few more days – and we will tell her Mother where she is…
I said we can look after for a few more days providing you tell her Mother She is Safe and Well and No More
They said O.K.
And so we did
And then she was Fostered with a Family in a Different Area of The Country…
And She Gradually remade contact with her Mother
And a Few Years Later She Came Back and Thanked Us, and Told Us about Her Job as a Stylist and How She Had Made It Up With Her Mum
And Then There was another Friend of Our Children…
Some People Do This Kind of Thing Because They Can’t Think Of Not Doing So
And Then The Bastards Do This
http://www.carers4carers.co.uk/
Both my wife an I have been retired for over 5 years
Tony
@ anno.
“The US handed Iraq to Iran, by placing a Shi’a minority government in ” – I was under the impression the Shi’ah were the majority in Iraq, not that it made a difference in many people-people conducatnce of life, but it does seem to have make a difference as to which group was more oppressed. I don’t think Saddam liked the Shi’ah version of Islam.
Tony,
As always I spend an hour a day interpreting your posts…wonderful..keep them coming mate..
This turned up in VeteransToday:
WASHINGTON, DC — Officials in the Obama White House are considering the possibility that the Christmas day attempt by Nigerian terrorist Umar Farouk Mutallab to blow up an airliner about to land in Detroit was deliberately and intentionally facilitated by unnamed networks inside the US intelligence community. This was the gist of a report by Richard Wolf delivered in this evening’s edition of cable network MSNBC’s Countdown program, hosted by Keith Olbermann. This report comes on the eve of a special White House interagency conference convoked by Obama to deal with the massive systemic failure of US intelligence in allowing the Yemen alumnus Mutallab to board the Amsterdam to Detroit flight while allegedly carrying a PETN explosive device on his person.
http://veteranstoday.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=10020
lwtc247
If you include Kurdistan in Iraq, the Sunni/Shi’a divide is about equal.
If you made a survey of religious groups in Britain, excluding Wales and Scotland you would get a totally different result from a survey of the UK as a whole.
Iraq refuses to hold a census, partly because of the six million Sunnis who are taking refuge abroad, and partly because there is an agreement in place to divide the oil wealth according to ethnic population.
Talking of Iraq statistics, I wanted to listen to the BBC’s future religious affairs correspondent, Edward Stourton’s programme Defining the Decade to check whether I really heard him say:
‘The Iraq War in which as many as 30,000 civilians may have been killed.’But it is not available.
In other words the British Broadcasting Crusade’s argument is that only the same number have died as would have died by natural causes. That would put them in the Hague as co-conspirators to genocide, in my opinion.
Tony optomoc, as much as I value your lamentations and you objections to CSP, it is of much morte value than to carry on with fusion power or litter the globe with nuclear power stations and an uncertain dangerous legacy, especially during the coming 42 years of this war on terror.
Back to the issue, Geoff and Patricia seem to have been wound up by big ears Charles Clarke,soon to be disposed of by one of the first two green MP’s, he started this of on news years day, Hoon and Hewitt are just fall guys who have been instigating it for him.
Charles Clarke would like to step into his fathers footsteps, to say that he is as bullying than his dad, alledgedly, would be calling the pope a catholic.
The backbenchers are far too much up their own marginal backsides, paranoid and worried in their westminster politics bubble, than to do anything rash.
My Labour MP is a decent local man who voted against the war and most bad things. What was he meant to do, resign and leave the field clear for some sucking New whatever parasite? I’d also far rather have him over the terrifying Green woman I encountered (bodyguards and wearing black leather gloves in summer, I kid you not). Why are people so obsessed by parties? Especially on a blog which supports an independent?
anno,
According to Gideon Polya:
Not only is the US involved in an ongoing Iraqi Holocaust and Iraqi Genocide (post-1990 violent and non-violent excess deaths 4.4 million), the US and its Iraqi Puppet Regime are grossly understating post-invasion mortality rates to the United Nations Population Division.
In the 2006 Revision of the United Nations Population Division the crude death rate in “deaths per 1,000 of population” was given as 8.3 (1980-1985), 6.9 (1985-1990), 9.6 (1990-1995; Gulf War and commencement of Sanctions in 1990 and Bombing in 1991), 10.0 (1995-2000), 10.6 (2000-2005; the invasion and occupation of Iraq commenced in March 2003); and 9.1 (2005-2010).
This data makes sense in that one would have expected the successive impositions of Sanctions, Bombing, War and finally violent Occupation would have increased the death rate in this period.
Further, the above estimates are conservative because the classic epidemiological study on post-invasion Iraq by top US medical epidemiologists estimated a crude death rate of 13.3 per 1,000 people per year in the 40 months post-invasion. [1]
Using UN Population Division data on the population of Iraq in the 1990-2009 period and using as a baseline death rate the 4 per 1,000 of population obtaining in a range of peaceful Developing Countries with similar demographics, the mid-1990-December 2009 non-violent excess deaths (non-violent avoidable deaths) were calculated to be 2.8 million.
Using the 2006 Revision of the United Nations Population Division one can readily estimate mid-1990- December 2009 under-5 year old infant deaths as 2.1 million.