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“For the record, Ritter was using a general chat room – as people often do – when a girl said she was in trouble in MacDonalds, being pursued by a couple of men.”
Glenn, are you really that stupid? That’s just not how it happened. And what was it this time? Did his webcam *accidentally* turn on for a scene of him spanking one out while being watched by someone he thought was a teenage girl?
It would be quite hilarious if the video of this encounter ever gets leaked. How would you twist the facts then, Glenn?
TO LARRY from St. Louis ?” HERE IS AN OUTLINE OF TORTURE FOR YOU: AND LARRY PLEASE TELL US WHO DO YOU REALLY REPRESENT?
You have asked me to point out why I define all that my family has been put through as torture.
Though it hardly does it justice, below is a summary of what we have gone through for many years. It fully complies with the definition of torture in the UN & EU Codes.
Then go to The Wiki ?” Go to the left hand margin, Table of Contents. Then click on 5. Zerzetsen Death Threats / Psychological Torture. You will see a list of various specific threats, and you will note that many of them are witnessed. See for yourself. Then click on 2. Zerzetsen Torture ?” A Serious Human Rights Abuse to see why this is defined as a serious human rights abuse, and a process of torture that has gone on for many years. As you will note it meets the legal definition of torture.
I would rather have spent 6 months being physically tortured in a foreign jail, knowing that my family were safe at home, than have 10 years at home knowing that my family were constantly under threat of murder and that the MI5/6 and CSIS intelligence services are involved.
So below is a brief summary of what my wife and I have been put through.
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What it is like to be a victim of zerzetsen?
In my families case it all started with a professionally executed defamation / slander job in Vancouver, Canada after I decided to resign as Group Controller of Grosvenor International. At this time, I had no idea what was going on or why it was happening, since I have never done anything wrong. Friends and head-hunters who once eagerly sought after me for senior positions, now avoided me. I applied for thousands of jobs to no avail. I had become unemployable. Gradually I became ostracised from all my friends and from the community.
What effect did this have on my family? Well we began to run out of money, and we were bringing up 3 children. We had to sell our house (in West Vancouver) and rent, use up all our savings and investments, sell both our cars. We have continued to survive because some relatives stepped in to help. The intelligence services plan was to break my family up and force my wife and I out onto the street. This is the zerzetsen approach developed by the former East German secret police to pressure dissidents and used by CSIS in Canada, and MI5/6 in UK ?” but I didn’t know that then.
Then the tactic changed. We began to get many hundreds of telephone calls with no one on the other end of the line. Yet people who genuinely phoned me could not get through, but were answered by shrieking fax tones. Stalkers began to follow us around quite openly. We were clearly under surveillance. People in cars staked out the house, and sometimes waited right in our driveway. Street Theatre acts were put on for us (a known intimidation tactic where they act out threats). Telephone clearly being tapped and mail interfered with. My computer going haywire with threats appearing on its screen. We feared for our lives; Yet not one word was spoken to us ?” This is the zerzetsen, though I didn’t know it at the time. One of the advantages of this technique to MI5/6, CSIS is that it is designed to mirror the complaints a paranoid would make, except that I have plenty of witnesses to corroborate.
Thinking it was just West Vancouver and Canada, I fled to the UK. The threats on my family got worse. The old implied threats continued, but now my children and I were getting death threat calls (some recorded) and threats from people in the street, our apartment was smashed into, and shots were fired at my son (in front of an independent witness) and at myself. Now outside witnesses were also threatened. One woman was sexually harassed and threatened twice in 24 hours. Threats of violence or death were implied heavily against my children. Cars and motorbikes were run at me at high speed and right up onto the sidewalk. A death threat was made in the name of the royal family (in view of the cover-up, and the involvement of MI5/6, I felt this threat was possibly genuine). We reported the crimes (numerous times) and each time it was covered up. Often the police start being honest; then they get the message ?” cover-it-up. Police cars fired firecrackers under my bedroom window in the middle of the night and set their sirens off, hoods pointed guns at me in the street, and crowding and escorting me as I walk.
In 2006 we returned to Calgary and there have been a number of threats here though less so than before. For example, people moved in to the apartment block and started harassing us, my daughter was threatened in the street, and much more. Recently I have had extensive computer interference (which I can prove), some open surveillance, and my daughter has had a large nail driven into the same tire on her car three times in one month (Nov 2009).
Imagine what my wife has had to deal with bringing up our three children though this. For 10 years she has had to live with the knowledge that her children have been under constant threat of murder by very powerful people, and that the very people who should be protecting you (government) are the persecutors and are covering-it-up. Not surprisingly my wife has developed some very serious health issues.
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And then Larry you enquired into the cover-up leaving the false impression to readers of this blog that I have based my case of cover up on just one small email (your quote of “government unhelpful = cover-up conspiracy”) when in fact anyone who chooses to review the Wiki (See table of Contents on left hand margin and click on: “4. government cover-up conspiracy ?” UK & Canada) – can see for themselves that I base my accusations of cover-up on numerous items of evidence. Bloggers can go to the wiki and see for themselves. So why Larry are you misleading people; what’s your agenda (or can I guess)? Who is your employer, or who was your last employer?
Larry ?” I posted a little comment earlier on today that was aimed at you, though I was too polite to say so. You clearly have an agenda. That’s fine, but don’t hide behind anonymity, let’s have your contact details.
Regarding Scott Ritter, to me it looks like a stupid, kinky little charge really. Yet the kind of charge which people do associate with serious sex crime.
Fox ‘news’ outlines he is accused of streaming webcam of himself masturbating to someone online who said (typed) they were a girl who was 15.
Ive never done that, except taken up an invitation to sex talk with somebody (who knows real a/s/l) on a chat channel once, silly embarassing fun. but i know enough about ‘relay chat’ and camming that there are many thousands of people streaming embarassingly intimate stuff to poorly identifiable strangers over the internet, all the time, all over the world. Taking part in that very widespread activity is what Scotts charge amounts to and if the definition of paedophilia now extends to it that is perversion of language.
Considering the previous deceptive sting in 2002 which Glenn detailed, which was thrown out of court for being perfectly innocent behaviour, and the history of smear campaigns which Wolfowitz (of all people) once defended him against -i dont even credit it happened.
Roderick – could you please point out your best two pieces of evidence that proves this torture that is being committed against you?
So, crab, let me get this straight – if an older man is chatting online with a 12-year-old girl, and he turns on his webcam and shows himself masturbating, you’re totally OK with that? How about a 10-year-old girl?
And yes, I know the putative girl was 15, but that’s not relevant to your analysis (or lack thereof).
If someone engaged in internet sex online with an anonymous partner who typed in that they were ten or twelve years old, i would find that disturbing and suspect.
15 years old, not so much, basicly. Its not my thing. But i dont think its a strong indication of paedophilia.
If photos or cam of an immature looking child/youth are exchanged, or there is evidence of grooming, i think that deserves prosecution and investigation for even more serious paedophile activity.
hth larry 🙂
Roderick Russell –
…Often the police start being honest; then they get the message ?” cover-it-up. Police cars fired firecrackers under my bedroom window in the middle of the night and set their sirens off, hoods pointed guns at me in the street, and crowding and escorting me as I walk.
In 2006 we returned to Calgary and there have been a number of threats here though less so than before. For example, people moved in to the apartment block and started harassing us, my daughter was threatened in the street, and much more….
Sorry Roderick, i have read and pondered some of your posts but im no great poster so i havent commented. But your experiences sound harrowing and i believe you and hope you can get peace somehow soon. You are an impressive guy to have kept yourself and your family together through this.
Should be in Accra 2nd week in Feb…keep u posted.
“I can’t help but think that by writing such a paper, Sunstein will have helped create more conspiracy theories than he will debunk”
Quite. It actually lends credence to the conspiracy theories – if they’re not true, why not just ignore them? He may soon appear in Wiki as the unwitting author of the Sunstein Effect, defined as establishing the truth of a theory in the public mind by attempting to prevent discussion of it. We’ll be saying ‘Honestly, I really didn’t believe it, but then I saw it being Sunsteined….’
Ahh the Sunstein effect, the political sibling of the Streisand effect.
Michael Hasty’s article “The Paranoid Shift” is interesting. Couple of quotes:
“In his book, “Rogue State: A Guide to the World’s Only Superpower,” William Blum warns of how the media will make anything that smacks of “conspiracy theory” an immediate “object of ridicule.” This prevents the media from ever having to investigate the many strange interconnections among the ruling class — for example, the relationship between the boards of directors of media giants, and the energy, banking and defense industries. These unmentionable topics are usually treated with what Blum calls “the media’s most effective tool – silence.” But in case somebody’s asking questions, all you have to do is say, “conspiracy theory,” and any allegation instantly becomes too frivolous to merit serious attention. On the other hand, since my paranoid shift, whenever I hear the words “conspiracy theory” (which seems more often, lately) it usually means someone is getting too close to the truth.”
and
“The precision of communications technology and graphics; the century of research on human psychology and emotion; and the uniquely centralized control of triumphant post-Cold War monopoly capitalism, have combined to the point where “the manufacture of consent” can be set on automatic pilot.”
Article at: http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/printer_203.shtml
are angrybutsober and larry the same person?
Arsalan, you caught me!
🙂
Roderick,
If you don’t mind my asking, just why would anyone be interested in having you persecuted you across the world over 20 years, if all you did was leave your job and change careers? What would they hope to achieve?
@AbeRene
The same question occurred to me.
Roderick Russell,
What you’re talking about sounds very bizarre indeed but what could possibly be in it for MI5/MI6 or the CIA?
You say that their aim is to break up your marriage (!)
Two questions
a) What on Earth is the purpose splitting up your marriage and at such a massive use of resources?
b) How do you know what their purpose it?
Arsalan, you caught me too.
And I’m still waiting for his best two pieces of evidence of his torture claim.
Roderick, so you know, if I send President Obama a letter stating that the CIA is tapping my phone, that is not evidence that the CIA is tapping my phone.
I think Roderick may be wrong in his interpretation of what is going on but, unless we simply dismiss him as paranoid and delusional (which I doubt), it seems something is nevertheless going on.
I believe he was an employee of Grosvenor International, part of the Duke of Westminster’s property empire. I wonder if he is in possession of sensitive and potentially damaging infomation. He may not even know what it is.
MJ, it looks like those who don’t believe in conspiracies are damned if they do and damned if they don’t look into them.
“I can’t help but think that by writing such a paper, Sunstein will have helped create more conspiracy theories than he will debunk”
Vronsky: “Quite. It actually lends credence to the conspiracy theories – if they’re not true, why not just ignore them?”
And just now, MJ, you quoted William Blum as saying that the media have a tendency to ignore conspiracy theories, which is so not fair, or else be dismissive of them.
So what is the correct attitude to “conspiracy theories”?
Is it worth a newspaper’s time and resources to investigate the possibility that the US was using its top-secret HAARP weapon to cause an earthquake in Haiti?
Or is that one just too silly?
Is it worth their time and resources to investigate whether the US military is creating “cottage cheese chemclouds” in Hawaii.
Or is that one too silly?
Besides, it is not as if conspiracy theorists get no media attention at all. They do. Stephen Jones was on MSNBC, ths “Scholars” got an article about them in the New York Times. Kevin Barrett, Jim Fetzer et al. have been on TV a few times. C-Span broadcast the Scholars jamboree.
Norman Baker had his David Kelly book serialised by the DAILY MAIL! (One of the biggest-selling newspapers around).
“He may not even know what it is.”
So Roderick Russell = Jason Bourne, eh?
Jesus Christ, time for you to stay away from fiction. Grow up.
And stop egging on someone like Roderick, who clearly needs help. In other words, don’t be like Craig Murray, who seems to want to encourage Roderick – the purpose for which I can’t understand.
Perhaps we should have a look at the “theory” put forward by Bill Quigley (Legal Director for the Center for Constitutional Rights) who writes:
“What the Mainstream Media Will Not Tell You About Haiti: Part of the Suffering of Haiti is ‘Made in the USA'”
http://tinyurl.com/y9as5bm
Nice of Obama to draft in GW Bush to help oversee the assistance, now …
That didn’t take long, now did it?
angrysoba: Blum makes particular reference to “the relationship between the boards of directors of media giants, and the energy, banking and defense industries”. He refers to these as “unmentionable topics” and I think he is right.
It is true that some alternative analyses of specific events – we can add the death of Princess Diana to your list – get some serious coverage, especially in the Daily Mail for some reason.
So what is the correct attitude to “conspiracy theories”?
I think the question should be: “what is the correct attitude to politically sensitive events?”
Many years ago, when there was a multiplicity of genuinely independent news organisations, they used to try to outdo each other in groundbreaking, investigative journalism. I think this was healthy. I think the current situation, where the MSM simply repeats as “news” whatever the government tells it, is unhealthy.
I think HAARP and chemtrails are far more worthy of investigation that the private lives of TV personalities, which appear to be the limit of investigative reporting these days.
“And stop egging on someone like Roderick, who clearly needs help”
Larry: perhaps by discussing his claims, rationally but sensitively, we are helping in some small way.
At 3kbps, you should be using a simplifying proxy server like loband.org. For urgent communications, it might be best to set up a telnet service (using pine for email, lynx for web surfing).
Internet telephony services in Ghana are routed through the SAT-3/WASC cable, which is jointly owned by Ghana Telecom and 35 other telecoms. Local ISPs are assigned 2Mbps bandwidth, and supply it to subscribers at an average speed of 1kbps.
The common alternative is to use a VSAT satellite system, but this is more expensive and is rather clogged in West Africa. Additionally, MTN & Zain are now offering GSM or 3G mobile access.
Things are set to improve, though. Glo has just laid the Glo1 fibre optic cable from UK to Nigeria, which should be operational soon, and the Main One cable from Portugal should be installed by May 2010.
“I think HAARP and chemtrails are far more worthy of investigation that the private lives of TV personalities, which appear to be the limit of investigative reporting these days.”
MJ, I sometimes try to give some examples of so-crazy-no-one-could-possibly-believe-it conspiracy theories only to find that they are indeed taken very seriously.
I mean, earthquakes caused by a HAARP weapon?
Now, I am not saying that real investigative journalism should be eradicated or that news should be written purely on the basis of what the journalists are told in press conferences. Absolutely not.
But simply throwing out highly speculative conspiracy theories defies basic jounralistic ethics and newspapers that print such stuff can only have themselves to blame if people no longer take them seriously.
While official lines should certainly be questioned, counter-claims need to be subject to exactly the same kind of rigourous scrutiny. Is this theory coherent? Does it make any kind of sense for the US military to be spraying “chemtrails” everywhere? Does it make any kind of sense to set up intelligence services dedicated to waging a twenty-year harassment campaign of one of that nation’s citizens?
MJ, what about Bigfoot and Roswell?
Sembe,
good on you. You obviously know your stuff!
Angrysoba,
starting from theory and then choosing what evidence to look for is back to front. Investigators should be gathering evidence – you never know where it will lead, or when it might cast light on some theory.