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New Tom Parry article in the Mirror – Here is the link:-
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/murder-alps-5-clues-could-32391347
Quote:- “The bewildering mass murder of a British family on holiday in the french alps remains unsolved more than two decades on”
Yes, you read that correctly, “two decades on”. . .
See how many other doubtful statements you can find.
It was thirteen and a half years ago.
David Cameron was the newish prime minister of the U.K. in a coalition.
Today, he is reborn as Foreign Secretary.
Perhaps he could be asked to look into it?
Tom Parry, implies that Suhailia went with the family al-Hilli from Claygate, to The Alps.
I don’t know where he gets his information but as far as I am aware, it has never been stated how Suhailia got to The Alps?
It would be useful, to have a timeline of the movements of Suhailia.
The girls claimed to not know who she was?
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8q56va
at approx 2:54
“C’est 70 hommes dans des chemises de couleur jaune”
So 70 suspects are, or have been, numero un!
Pity I don’t speak French but picked some of it up from reading.
Gun stopped being made in 1929.
So, about a ninety year old gun, probably Swiss.
The youngest the gun could be (if we have been told the truth) would be 83 years old.
How many times, since the Second World War, has an 80-100 year old pistol been used to kill four people at the same site, at the same moment?
2012 − 1929 = 83
Perhaps the barrel had been changed, prior to the Alps Massacre?
I expect, if the barrel had recently been replaced, this could be spotted by ballistic scientists,
in the recovered ammo?
@michael norton
The gun was first manufactured in 1929. The final manufacturing run for the Swiss armed forces was completed in 1946. A small number of sales to private individuals was made in 1947.
Good In Parts.
So you are claiming the gun could be as young as 65?
2012-1947 = 65
In my view, still a very old gun to be doing a quad murder?
If they have not got the actual gun but only the shots fired, barrels can be changed?
Actually, I have remembered, that, they have claimed a fractured part of a grip was recovered.
But again, grips are also replaced.
So, the actual gun used in 2012 does not have to be 65 -100 years old.
It could be a made up gun, not a classic.
If the actual gun has not or never will be recovered, we will not know?
The question, though, is why use a 100 – 65 year old gun
or why pretend it was a classic?
I was just musing about the tightness of the timeline, particularly just before and after the murders themselves.
Just imagine that Sylvain’s ex-wife had stayed on the phone for, say, another minute, or insisted that he stop cycling and talk to her. Sylvain would have been further delayed and the gap between him and WBM reduced. WBM would then have cycled straight into the middle of the massacre.
Wikipedia
“Eventually, ballistic analyses of the cartridge cases and butt plate fragments showed that the weapon used by the killer was a Luger P06 semi-automatic pistol (model 1906) firing the 7.65×21mm Parabellum ammunition”
So, Wiki thinks it was a 1906 model?
Have we seen written proof that it was a much more recent gun?
@michael norton
The most interesting issue with regard to the gun is just how pieces of the grip plate ended up found near to Sylvain Mollier’s cycle.
Zainab’s recent recollections seem to imply that she was grabbed from behind before she could get into the car, then bashed around the head. If this was when the grip plate was broken, how did pieces end up near to the cycle?
It is possible that the grip plate was broken by the killer before he got to the middle of the car park (where Zainab presumably was) and that the cause was that the killer had an issue with the grip safety. If so, this implies to me that the killer had not had much (if any) experience of live-firing this particular weapon.
Good In Parts,
maybe if the weapon was extremely old, the grip plates could be fragile.
However I do not believe that a modern gun would shed a grip plate by being bashed into the head of a young girl.
More likely the grip fragments were scattered at the crime scene to throw off future investigations.
Good In Parts I have heard it suggested that Sylvain was the first to be shot, with the shootist moving on to the occupants of the BMW.
It has also been suggested that the shootist moved back to Sylvain to make completely sure he was dead. Maybe Sylvain was also clubbed, maybe he was clubbed before he was first shot, perhaps because Sylvain preemptively attacked the gunman?
How about this: Sylvain cycles up the mountain, he sees man holding Zainab, Sylvain rushes man and man bashes Sylvain and shoots Sylvain.
@michael norton
Interesting idea but the recent information from Zainab is that she saw Sylvain (presumably already there at Le Martinet parking or just arriving) as she was instructed to get into the car.
We still do not have a full picture of the events at Le Martinet. However les gendarmes have much, much, more information than us.
For instance, forensic examination of the pieces of broken grip plate found near Sylvain Mollier’s velo should have revealed the presence, or absence, of Zainab’s DNA. Which would be a big help.
Previously I have advocated a killer working shifts (les trois huit) possibly at the same works as Sylvain Mollier.
Well it turns out that les gendarmes found just such a man, ‘Nicolas’, who is pretty much the archetype for this scenario, who worked with SM, played sports with SM and had a serious beef with SM. See this video starting at the 8:00 minute mark:-
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8q56n7
Apparently he was exonerated because he could not shoot well enough… Still, there could be others.
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Take a gander at our Eric under questioning about Sylvain Mollier in this video, starting at about 16:30 minutes in.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8q56n7
I am embarrassed to admit that I thought that some of Zaid’s comments about the wall of silence and “protection” of Sylvain Mollier were somewhat overblown.
But watching this video of Eric smugly stonewalling, makes Zaid’s position seem more than reasonable.
Good In Parts, the brother, Zaid, always seemed pretty genuine, to me.
Maybe he did have a dispute with his younger and stronger brother about their parents fortune.
So what, nothing out of the normal there. Getting your brother and his family rubbed out, five hundred miles from home, almost, no chance, too difficult to organize, unless he was a major crime boss or in British Intelligence, so that did not happen.
I had not previously heard of this, Nicholas, who used to be an item with Clair, the mother of the last child of Sylvain.