The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
shelock,
that’s what I found about Jack Cecil Drummond
He was several times travelling to Quebec, to Argentina and to the USA, Washington. Not surprisingly, though.
1924 Quebec
1928 La Plata, Argentina
1929 New York
1933 New York
1934 Buenos Aires, Argentina
Interesting bit was 1942 (scroll down)
1945 New York
1949 Quebec
1951 New York
Now 1942, where I git a list with names from the immigration office:
He travelled with an interesting party of chaps:
Feb 9th 1942
Donald V. Mc Donald, State Dept Washington
Robert Patterson, State Dept Washington
Charles Gossweiler, Swiss Legation, Washington
Harry Jephcott, British Embassy Washington
Jack Cecil Drummond, British Embassy, Washington
Philip Burton Moon, British Science Washington
William Charles Hammond, British. Purch.Comm Washington
Frank Arthur Allen British Embassy, Washington
Samuel W White, British Air Comm. Washington
He wrote as his address the British embassy in Washington. This is interesting because I did not know that he was a diplomat. Other scientists had other addresses (see above), but he had the embassy address. Just like Hashim al Hilli.
Perhaps you can do something with the names from the State Department. Particularly the Swiss guy could be an interesting link, could he?
Unfortunately I could not find any more what would not be listed in wikipedia yet.
Yes, I know, its been a long time since.
But too many strange coincidences beside that above mentioned.
I’ve just started to make some notes when re-reading the text. But I’m not yet in the middle …. until Orson Welles’s docu about the case aprox.
so far:
– date of the crime: 05.08.1952 (almost exactly 60 years !!)
– river close by the scene (Durance)
– the finder of the victims stops a car and asks him to call the police…
– victims each shot 3 times, 1 shot possibly at the fleeing daughter, but missed, so skull fractures with the wappon to kill her
– wappon is an old US-military gun (Rock-Ola)-
– the police team arrives late – in the afternoon as they had lot’s of troubles until they got to the scene….
– troubles between police/gendarmes during their work
– the team is under great pressure (even political)
– lots of people trampeling on the crime scene very soon
– wall of silence
– a possible (Gaston) throuser with blood spots, but failed to investigate any furhter
– complaints against the team(leader) for just looking on one party during their work
There’s still more (interesting) to be continued.
All the above mentioned is taken from the linked article.
May be important to look at: the Dominicis had a new born (nursling) named Alain.
This man should be in his sixtees now. If not died already, don’t know.
BB:
I know it’s a lot to read, and even more worse if translated by machine- but please have a look at the article in two parts, I linked above.
This is a quite good summary on the case.
(but we don’t know how reliable- anyhow it’s thrilling to read…..)
When I read it for the first time – I couldn’t help feeling that there’s somebody trying to link/copy something….
Am I the only one??
shelock
I think you can read that. This is about the Swiss Charles Gossenheimer.
He worked for OSS and he was in Greenbrier to supervise the convicted German embassy members beginning from 1942 since he could speak German. Since they were travelling in a “package”, we can assume that Drummond was apparently working for the OSS or MI6 (was it called MI6 in 1942?), too.
http://www.zeit.de/2008/28/A-US-Botschaft/seite-3
Note: This text is in German and Gossenheimer is mentioned on page 3 only, but there are 4 pages.
Charles Gossweiler, Swiss Legation, Washington is mentioned here at may, 7 (end of page)
http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/united-states-dept-of-state-office-of-public-co/department-of-state-bulletin-volume-v-6-apr–jun-1942-tin/page-16-department-of-state-bulletin-volume-v-6-apr–jun-1942-tin.shtml
Oh look, Robert P Patterson. He was one of the diplomatic (spies) chaps of Drummond in that team. Guess when he died. He died in the same year when Drummond died. Patterson died in an airplane crash …
I have no time, but could anybody check the other embassy and OSS characters of the “Team Drummond”? Did they die in accidents and/or in assassinations, too? Perhaps all of them died in 1952?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_P._Patterson
The next one from team Drummond dead in 1953
http://www.odmp.org/officer/8911-investigator-donald-d-mcdonald
“Investigator Donald McDonald suffered a fatal heart attack while wading through a swamp in search of a still in Tampa, Florida.
He was accompanying other federal and state revenue agents to the location and had to wade through knee deep water when he suddenly collapsed. The other agents located his body in the water after retracing their steps.”
Read more: http://www.odmp.org/officer/8911-investigator-donald-d-mcdonald#ixzz2FJmNlcUJ
There is something! “Team Drummond” died like flies in 1952/1953. Next one?
Should I keep digging or is it getting dangerous?
Getting closer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Burton_Moon
Philip Burton Moon from “Team Drummond” wasn’t killed. He was allowed to survive. However, he worked as a British representative in the Manhatten project and in the MAUD commission!
Frank Arthur Allen has two patents from 1944. Did he work in the Manhatten project for the British, too? Looks like:
http://www.patentmaps.com/inventor/Frank_Arthur_Allen_1.html
This guy from “Team Drummond” did survive, too. In contrary, he became a pharmaceutical tycoon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Harry_Jephcott,_1st_Baronet
BB:
The only thing I can found on that swiss Lt. Col. is here:
http://db.dodis.ch/dodis;jsessionid=565EBA73452C957ADC18F925424DBAC9?XE7lhitk6BYp8Bj1HerossIz0CAeFQBgQGE5qfVRBR8H516do4oCtlYCU9TWwBSX2FRizv5zS86vdGP
He has died in 1967. It’s a diplomatic search site. So I guess, it’s him.
But he has worked in nutrology/chemcial field as well, as you can see.
Like Drummond….
Frank Arthur Allen has two patents from 1944. He worked on the Manhatten project for the British side, too? Looks like:
http://www.patentmaps.com/inventor/Frank_Arthur_Allen_1.html
Magnesium alloys were used for the first nuclear bombs.
This guy from “Team Drummond” did survive, too. In contrary, he became a pharmaceutical tycoon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Harry_Jephcott,_1st_Baronet
So what did he do for the Manhatten project? Testing Pharmaceuticals for radiation therapy? Not unlikely.
Gossenheimer was obviously the asset for getting information from the Germen in Greenbrier. Were was Oppenheimer?
But what did Drummond do for the Manhatten project? Biogenetic analysis? Food protection and food research regarding radioactivity?
Studying the names of “team Drummond” 1942, it is most likely that “Team Drummond” of 1942 did work on the Manhatten project. Some of those guys had to die (including Drummond), while some of them did survive. Was Drummond leaking details of the Manhatten project to the Russians or to the French? So then, we were in another nuclear scenario.
Interesting info regarding Glaro and Charles Gossenheimer. That means, that after WW2, Gossenheimer was in the board of directors of a Swiss pharmaceutical company that did trade with food, too. Incidentally this is the same science for what Drummond was a specialist. I would be keen to know what kind of pharmaceuticals Glaro was into.
Team Drummond was the European Team of “Project Manhatten”. I have no doubt about this. Consequently, we must look at his assassination from a different point of view. Of course this has nothing to do with the al Hillis, however, it could have been likely taken as a script. But then, the French definitely knew that their first script already failed terribly in 1952. Why would they use an already failed script once again? Doesn’t make much sense.
I don’t know exactly where and what this OLt Charles Gossweiler worked for.
Its been mentioned Glaro/Wander. Where the famous OVOLMATINE comes from. Swiss chocolate powder. Wander also makes (or at least made) high caloric food for hospitals eg.
Even if it has nothing to do with our AlHilli case, I guess they both were some kind of collegues…. as Drummond was in vitamines and nutrititon during war in UK and ?? when food was few, of bad quality and expensive during WWII.
re your article, BB: as the swiss was neutral during WWII this Mr. Gossweiler was in the US in the Hotel “to help out” the German/american communication. As all the US info-flow in Germany went via Switzerland/Bern – for the same reason.
He later came back by ship, the Drottningholm… he had a diplomatic status.
Your last question, BB:
So my first intention, when I first read the article I linked you to in the afternoon was:
I thought somebody wanted to have it like that (Drummond case)
In the latter eg, the victims when found, had been moved before….
There was a big mess – between the French team itself and between the French/British
as well. Lots went wrong from the very beginning.
Isn’t it possible this was exactly the intention- to have a mess about the case?
Are there any bills which hadn’t been paid (beside the tipping in the US-Hotel)
Or does our EM has any “foes”? Inside war – like in the US?
(sorry, I mentioned before- but still ask again)
Have you seen the copykill movie….
Here’s the “Team Drummond” (Project Manhatten) list again as a summary:
Donald V. Mc Donald, State Dept Washington (OSS investigator, died 1953 due to a “heart attack” in the Tampa swamps)
Robert Patterson, State Dept Washington (United States Secretary of War, formerly Undersecretary of war, Chief of Project Manhatten, died 1952 in an airplane crash)
Charles Gossweiler, Swiss Legation, Washington
(died 1967, Swiss contact to German embassy priosners in USA/Greenbrier, later board of directors of GLADO pharmaceuticals in Switzerland).
Harry Jephcott, British Embassy Washington
(Pharamaceutical and chemical scientist, today Pharmaceutical Tycoon in the UK)
Jack Cecil Drummond, British Embassy, Washington
(Bioscientist, died 1952, assassinated)
Philip Burton Moon, British Science Washington
(Nuclear physician, “MAUD commission” and team “Project Manhatten”)
William Charles Hammond, British. Purch.Comm Washington
(unknown)
Frank Arthur Allen British Embassy, Washington
(Physician, created magnesium alloys patents in 1944 used for the first nuclear bombs)
Samuel W White, British Air Comm. Washington
(unknown)
Shelock,
the complete “Team Drummond” (Team Project Manhatten) was travelling as diplomats. That is why I could put them so easily into “one team” as they were all listed on the same seperate US immigration form. There were also three “Chilenian” diplomats (perhaps German NAZIs travelling under a false name) but I left them off side.
Hashim al Hilli was travelling to Ann Arbour in 1938 as a diplomat. Together with Saddam Hussein’s stepfather Hasan Ibrahim and Saddam’s uncle Hammoudi al Majid plus two other Iraqi “diplomats” whose names I can’t recall by heart.
It is evident that Hashim al Hilli had been in the USA during WW2 as well as Jack Drummond. However, we don’t know whether they had worked on the same projects nor do we know if they ever met each other. I don’t think so. But there are some “diplomatic” paralells.
Shelock
Nutrition together with Ovaltine is a good keyword. “Ovomaltine” was still called Ovaltine in the 1940tees and 50tees. Ovaltine was in 1940 about what Red Bull is meant to be today (an energy drink). Ovaltine was used by RAF pilots as well as by foot soldiers. Of course you need nutrition experts for Ovaltine. Therefore it isn’t unlikely that the Swiss translator who definitely knew Drummond and Jephcott was going to become part of the Ovaltine production lateron. I guess that after the war, and probably even during the war, Drummond, Jephcott and Gossweiler were working for Ovaltine research in the UK and in USA. The Swiss had just the patent. The most Ovaltine production was done in the USA and in the UK.
SoftCat
17 Dec, 2012 – 12:08 am
Just a point, people in the village said that SM was often seen pushing the baby around the village. Sounds to me like SM was a lovely dad, who took paternity leave which is good in France as compared to Ireland where it is non existant. Paternity/Maternity leave in France, from what I gather, can be taken for a year and repeated 2 more times upto 3 years. It makes sense to me that SM would take this leave as his wife was self employed and I think the statement that he was going to live off his partner was unfair. If a woman takes the time of work to look after her child it is not considered that she is living off her partner.
Who is a man on the counsell to say what is decided between a couple behind closed doors. SM seems to have had joint custody of his 2 children from his marriage, not a sign of a bad parent. CS is running a pharmacy which on paper is valued at 1.1m but we do not know how many people are being supported by that business (her mum, dad etc) The value of the business does not make her wealthy. The cycle which it is claimed she bought for SM as a gift is their own concern. A man who is a stay at home husband and looks after his kids and who cycles as a way to relax (as opposed to sitting in the pub) to me seems like a good man.
CS worried about his return when only a little late could also just reflect the fact that he was a punctual dependable man, and nothing more sinister. When she could not make contact with him by phone she drove down to see if he was okay, saw the police road block, made enquiries, heard a cyclist had by involved in a scene, said it could be her partner as she was having difficulty contacting him, and was asked to bring his photo to the police station to check if it was him. This she did, and discovered the terrible news.
The above is my take on the SM CS situation. At no time, in my opinion, has anyone (other than that council man) given any indication that he was a bad father or partner. The fact that he was divorced proves nothing. His ex wife has remarried and all were just getting on with their lives.
I hope this does not drag on 10 years as stated, with mud being slung at family members on all sides, the Schultz, Mollier and Al Hillie families.
Poor Ghadaffi, he tried to warn people about Nescafe during the outrageous Libya invasion, made some rather curious allegations..I thought it was rather peculiar.
Ovaltine, I drank that maybe twice as a child..hated it. I am happy Monsanto “gave up” after the protests by farmers..on UK..but the already have dibs in Egypt at the moment. As Monsanto used to say..Chemistry ..Life would be impossible without it..
Yes Shelok, fascinating case..the son in Dominicci affair has been waging a campaign to clear his name. I read the reviewing magistrates case which pointed a very cogent case to guilt, imo. I posted the link a while back or that might have been MZT. What I see happening here is the internet has outpaced the ability of all these people in cointel to create the kind of airtight alibis they used to get away with just splashing a headline or two in newspaper or TV or radio. They are still using WWII methods and can’t create sufficient layers of credibility. They have to employ teams and special software.on the internet to detect deflect and discourage a systematic attack on their scripts credibility, while at the same time exposing who or what is pulling the strings. Even controlling what Main Stream News is not plugging the holes fast enough..and they are trying.
Off topic, but maybe relevent too.
Over the last 10 years with the rise in Mass shootings in schools etc, and teenage and adulescent suicides I wonder has the effect of the Mosquito security Device, used by shop keepers etc, and only heard by teenagers, effected our young.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mosquito
It is widely used in Ireland and not heard by adults. It is used to move on loitering teenagers who hear an irritating buzzing sound. Note mothers chatting outside shops with babys in prams can not hear the sound but what is it doing to the young child.
Just a thought.
Interesting juno,
we don’t know quite a lot.
manny
if we have had the internet in 1952, the Dominici case would have been uncovert within 2 weeks. It’s getting harder for them. Perhaps they tried to prevent the errors they had made in that assassination in 1952 but forgot that we have 2012 and that there is the internet. The more data they provide us, the more complicated for them to hide something. OK, they invent fake people and fake personalities. They invent doubles with false characters. That might confuse us for some time. But it won’t confuse us forever.
Just a bit off topic, but I was laughiung because there is all about drugs:
This was the FIRST Lanza in America. He married the daughter if General William Alexander Hammond, a military surgeon who later became one of the most famous neurologists in the USA.
However, what flattened my mind was the last sentence of the Marqui’s obituary from 1895 (simply read it):
Obituary, year 1895: The Marquis Manfredi Lanza die Brolo of Palermo, Sicily, died suddenly at Washington on Thursday. He was the son-in-law of ex-surgeon General William A. Hammond, his widow, with three sons, surviving him. The Marquis was about fifty years of age and was distantly related on his father’s side to Queen Marguerite, as well as to the Cardinal of Naples. Marquis Lanza had been in this country about twentyfive years, and was for some time engaged in the wholesale drug business in New York.
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F40F16FC355D15738DDDAF0994D9415B8585F0D3
He was married with Marquise Clara Lanza, who was the daughter of William A Hammond.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Alexander_Hammond
Almost everybody we reserach here seemed to have been into the drugs/pharmacist business.
Sandy Hook Shootings
Copied from Icke but worth repeating here I thought:-
31 QUESTIONS TO ASK YOURSELF
1. As yet, we have not seen any concrete evidence that any child died.
2. As yet, parents have not been allowed to see their children. (Photoshopped pictures do not count).
3. As of now, I have seen only one unambiguous statement from a grieving parent (Robbie Parker).
4. According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother’s ID, and it was not
stolen. However, older brother Ryan–who officials say is very cooperative–claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?
5. According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest, if he planned to kill himself?
6. The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was found dead in the school with only handguns–a rifle was found in the trunk of his car. But then he could not possibly have been firing the rifle, and could not have committed the murders. Who did?
7. According to the official story, the killing was tightly confined to two classrooms. But then why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building?
8. Joanne Didonato, the principal’s secretary, called in sick on Friday–something she rarely does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give an interview. “Of all days,” she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence.
9. The hospital went into lockdown and cleared four trauma rooms, but received only three patients, two of them dead children (according to the official story) and one mildly wounded adult.
10. Why were there such persistent reports that Mrs. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher, and that she died at the school, when the new official story is that she was not connected to the school and was killed at home?
11. What happened to the report that Adam Lanza’s girlfriend and another friend were missing in New Jersey?
12. What happened to the woodsman in a black jacket and camo pants who was arrested and handcuffed outside the school? He actually shouted to parents, “It wasn’t me.” Who was he and what was he doing there?
13. What happened to the dark van or SUV that the police surrounded in the parking lot, or the maroon sedan with a blown-out back window they were on the lookout for?
14. The official story is that Nancy Lanza was a gun collector who obeyed the law. But since 20-year-olds are not permitted to buy guns or ammo or carry guns in Connecticut, why would she give her “autistic” son access to both guns and ammo?
15. Why were parents told on Friday that “if you haven’t been reunited with your child by now it’s already over”? Does anyone imagine that real parents of real children would simply say, “Okay, the show’s over, let’s go home now”?
16. Would real parents of real children really be satisfied with (possibly photoshopped) pictures of their children? Wouldn’t they demand to see their children one last time firsthand?
17. According to the official story, 28 people died but only 1 was wounded. The dead included 20 small, squirmy children–difficult targets even for professionals. How could Adam Lanza achieve such amazingly deadly accuracy, in such a short length of time?
18. A child asserts that he/she heard someone say, “Put your hands up,” followed by the reply, “Don’t shoot.” This indicates that the police took a suspect into custody inside the school. But if that was Adam Lanza, how did he kill himself after that point?
19. Another child asserts that he/she saw a man pinned down to the ground with handcuffs on. Again, this indicates that the police took a suspect into custody. If that was Adam Lanza, how did he then kill himself?
20. When Ryan Lanza was falsely identified as the shooter, who deleted his Facebook profile and created many others in his name?
21. Is it reasonable for a geeky 20-year-old to carry two pistols and hundreds of rounds of ammunition while wearing a bulletproof vest and a mask?
22. Why did the police say on Friday that they were going to leave the bodies rotting in the school until Sunday, then Saturday morning announce that they had spirited the bodies away in the middle of the night? Perhaps to ensure that the transport, if any, would go unrecorded on photos or video?
23. Why won’t police tell us where they found the Henry repeating rifle, the Enfield rifle, and the shotgun?
24. Did the school have one or more security cameras? What do they show?
25. Why did a police officer specifically mention, on radio, that “they’re coming at me through this wood,” followed by a fellow officer saying, “This is it”?
26. One officer in the school said, “We’ve got one suspect down.” Who was that? Down in this situation generally means in custody (on the ground and cuffed), not dead.
27. Why didn’t Adam’s uncle see anything out of the ordinary in Adam when the two saw each other in June?
28. Why is Adam Lanza reported to be a loner when a teenager said (oxymoronically), “[Lanza and his friends] always gathered alone in a corner in school”?
29. Why did police assign an individual state trooper to every grieving family, whether the family wants such “protection” or not?
30. Why are Ryan Lanza and his roommates still in custody, and why are the police pretending that it’s for their own benefit?
31. Is it a coincidence that Nancy Lanza’s brother is Kingston Police Officer James Champion, who lives next door to the former Lanza home?
Stepping back for a moment, is anyone familiar with the technology transfer regulations concerning Surrey Satellite Technology Limited SSTL) and the university from which it sprang to life? I am wondering about intellectual property rights pertaining to patents. What happens, for instance, if a university researcher discovers or invents a process or idea leading to a patent that happens to be worth a great deal of money? If the patent is sold by the university to private interests, where do the creators of the patent stand?
Furthermore, where does the government stand if such an idea was developed at a government-owned and run facility? And where do government-employed scientists stand in relation to intellectual property rights if the idea came about with their help, expertis and intervention? Are they viewed only as employees, or rightful owners of ideas?
And finally, in relation to these thoughts, do we know if Saad al-Hilli had worked at SSTL on contract or as part of the staff prior to 2010? This might explain why the company called him a “long-term” employee (although he worked there less than two years). We had discussed this last idea previously relating to layoffs at another area employer. Can it be confirmed?
@Straw:
#4. Col. Russell Williams apparently took great interest in cataloguing identity documents during his so-called “lingerie” break-ins. He photographed one victim’s driver’s licence and insurance information. So much for being a “fetishist”, as the trademark fairy tale goes. The man was hacking into people’s computers. Sounds more like someone in special ops might do, IMO. Of course, identity fraud can be done by people who aren’t trained in electronic warfare, but they are usually “con artists”, not “fetishists”. Williams did not steal the documents, from what we know, but couldn’t someone fraudulently request replacement documents?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2010/10/18/col-williams-court-1018.html
@Straw44berry: Piotr Drabik comes to mind with the topic of nano(bio)technology. Often this type of research is done with relation to pharmaceuticals and drug delivery methods. What was Saad al-Hilli’s sister-in-law’s research at Reading U.? Oh, right, she’s not on the webpage any more.
@Tim V: Speaking of scandalous royal photos, a person really never knows when they’re being watched or photographed, what with all the low-orbit satellites taking images in near real-time.
I am surprised no journalist has posted what kind of medication was being used by that boy. Its Guns Guns guns and and now mom was a survivalist waiting for doomsday. God forbid we mention a Pharm giant.
@ bluebird 17 Dec, 2012 – 3:06 pm
“Here’s the “Team Drummond” (Project Manhatten) list again as a summary: Donald V. Mc Donald, State Dept Washington (OSS investigator, died 1953 due to a “heart attack” in the Tampa swamps)”
There is a similar story, I think it was in the last 2-3 years, of somebody important – a politician / FBI / military maybe – I can’t remember enough details to find it, dying of a supposed heart attack on a boat in a swamp in the southeastern US. There was some mystery about it – questions asked.
@ bluebird 17 Dec, 2012 – 10:47 am
“NR I looked the picture of Nancy (Champion) Lanza in that NY Post article that you linked (thank you!), and although I am no expert, I would say that her face looks exactly as a face of a vegan and I am sure that I already met such very similar faces when I was walking on the streets when I saw animal liberation activists there. Her face would fit perfectly. Probably fits ideally. Biocentrism? Survivalist? It’s all making some kind of picture. Taking James Holmes as an addicted bow&arrow archer (was he a vegan, too?) and all the links to the Salk Institute, the neurologist, biogenetics, pharmacists, ….. I think we may get somewhere. However, our problem is that we don’t understand their own world and their ideology right now.”
Holmes has the same appearance as Adam Lanza. Didn’t see anything that said he’s a vegan. Jared Loughner has some of the same facial appearance. Is it veganism or drugs or some aspect of mental illness?
@ Bluebird + some slightly off-topic stuff:
Relates to my previous mention of the ranch in Montana with Russian orphans. Possibly relates to events in Canada in 1982.
“A ban on the adoption of Russian orphans by U.S. citizens can become one of the positive consequences of the notorious Magnitsky Act”
http://english.pravda.ru/society/family/17-12-2012/123203-americans_adopting_russian_children-0/
“Young cannibal kills and eats 11 people to impress his girlfriend”
http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/crimes/14-12-2012/123186-cannibal-0/
Are spies really artists at heart? What’s Anna Chapman doing now? [Her hair is not as red as it was] plus a short tale of a spy, Trotsky, Castro, coffee and the Pope.
http://english.pravda.ru/society/stories/13-12-2012/123150-anna_chapman_spy-0/
Anna Chapman ?
Wasn’t she an FA at NJ in the States a few years back ?
Nice smile, great ass …and always wanted to be “famous” ?
Yeh. That’s her. Where is she now ? In the “media” ?