The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
@ Bluebird + all interested in odd coincidences or connections
Bluebird said: “3 members in the 1800dreds had the name Martin, the most famous one was Georges Martin. This might be conspiracy, but i read the the Royals of the Grand Loge de Savoie are called the “black royalty”. It is said that the black Royalty is seekung for a new world order (conspiracy?). However, the Grand Loge de Savoie in Annecy (the center of freemasonry and templars) is reality and it is the centre for the memphis-misraim freemasonry.”
“In the Middle Ages the Venetians were known as the archetypes of the parasite, the people who “neither sow nor reap.” For the Greeks, they were the hated “frogs of the marshes.” In Germany, a folk tale describes the merchant of Venice as an aged Pantaloon who makes his rounds robbing men of their human hearts and leaving a cold stone in their place.”
“The role of the Venetian oligarchy (linked to the so called Black Nobility) was first brought to light in the 1990s by a team of researchers centered around Lyndon LaRouche.”
http://www.archive.org/stream/SatanicIlluminatiBloodlines/SatanicIlluminatiBloodlines_djvu.txthttp://www.archive.org/stream/SatanicIlluminatiBloodlines/SatanicIlluminatiBloodlines_djvu.txt
“Lewis [duPont Smith] was the person behind the book Dope, Inc. [by Lyndon LaRouche] and it was this involvement that got him in hot trouble with his family. The book exposes the Queen of England is a participant in the drug trade. Yes, the British royal family does tie in the elite, the occult, and the drug trade. They are not as nice is their pictures suggest.”
“Since 1916, members of the [Rothschild] family have been vacationing at MegA’ve, an exclusive ski resort in the Haute Savoie department of France, whose restaurants are among the best in the country. However, even in recreation the Rothschilds find a way to utilize their entrepreneurial skills: they own five of the village’s gourmet restaurants.
There are some powerful Stewarts (also spelled Stuart) in the Illuminati today, some who are friends with theRockefellers. James C. Stewart, a member of the Illuminati, built the Mormon’s capital building in Salt Lake City, 60 Wall Tower in NY, and the Savoy Hotel in London that the Illuminati use for their Pilgrim Societyheadquarters. James belonged to the Pilgrim Soc. too.
Recall this? “Prince Rocky Johnson, protocol officer at Pilgrims Africa Nigeria Security and Investigations. Cobus Classens, Managing Director, Pilgrims Africa … Pilgrims Group Pilgrims House PO Box 769 Woking Surrey United Kingdom.”
“The American diplomats stayed at the Savoy Hotel in Moscow. The Savoy Hotel in London has been used as an important Illuminati building. The key to understanding the Illuminati is that it is headquartered in the London area. The Satanists (and witches) refer to Great Britain as the mother country. When W.W. II broke out on Sept. 3, ’39, Onassis was living in Savoy Hotel where the headquarters for the Illuminati’sPilgrim Society are.
As explained in Be Wise As Serpents, Britain’s overseas intelligence MI-6 is the Illuminati’s chief intelligence agency…. The [Astor] family may have moved from Savoy to Waldorf, Germany.
Concernings Thirty-Twos:
32° Freemason
http://www.skullandcrossbones.org/articles/skullandbones.htm
One doesn’t need to scratch deeply to uncover accusations of sinister ties with the CIA, the Trilateral Commission, the Illuminati, the Council on Foreign Relations, even the Nazis… The Yale society fastened a picture of its symbol — a skull and crossbones — to the door of the chapel where it met. Today the number 322, recalling the date of Demosthenes’ death, appears on society stationery. The German connection to the Illuminati is extensive; the Order of the Skull & Bones is an important element.
32 St James’s Duke St, RODINA HOUSE is another address used by many companies with nominee directors. “BEC TRADERS LTD Rodina Hse Room 420, 32 St James’s Duke St, London”
SOME IMPORTANT CONNECTIONS ~ COLLINS – WHITNEYS – VANDERBILTS: William Collins Whitney, a member of the Illuminati via the Skull & Bones Order.
Leading Satanists try to own cemeteries for several reasons. First, it facilitates the disposal of human sacrifices which are buried in pieces below the fresh holes dug for someone else’s burial. When the casket is placed in the hole, it would be rare for anyone to dig below the casket level ever again. Second, magic power is associated with cemeteries. The spiritual power of the dead is pulled up by making a circle of light over them then within the circle a naked Satanist lays. Third, specific bones are sought such as the skulls and left hands.* Left hands are preserved in order to hold candles for certain ceremonies.**
* Or posted to government offices and left in parks.
** Or frozen and used for other activities, best not mentioned without a XXX warning.
The Russell’s are responsible for starting the Skull & Bones Order, the Pilgrim Society… G.W. Bush, did you know his Skull and Crossbones nickname was “Temporary.” More recently, Antony C. Sutton suggested that the secret society Skull and Bones was founded as the American branch of the Illuminati; others think Scroll and Key had Illuminati origins, as well. Writer Robert Gillette claimed that these Illuminati ultimately intend to establish a world government through assassination, bribery, blackmail, the control of banks and other financial powers, the infiltration of governments, mind control, and by causing wars and revolution to move their own people into higher positions in the political hierarchy.
The Illuminati’s SECURITY SYSTEM: Russell Trust is the legal corporation that is the Order of the Skull and Bones,
financed the creation of host of security co. under the Wackenhuts, incl. a Security Service called Wackenhut Corporation. Another part of this is Wackenhut World Technologies, Inc. or WWT Inc. Wackenhut operates worldwide. Their headquarters are in Florida. Wackenhut handles all Intelligence-related and Super Secret work-classified ULTRA for the US. worldwide.
Q 20 Military types?
The only suggestion I have is that there was a search going on for missing Brit in Sanvensa using the military (mainly French?) did they come on from there?
http://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2012/09/06/1433604-affaire-patricia-wilson-les-gendarmes-recherchent-un-cadavre.html
Oops, Search was on 5/9/12 over 300 miles, 6+ hours away
NR
That is interesting stuff. I am 99% sure that all those rich people dont live close to Annecy just because of its landscape. Ok, Geneve is closeby, but other nice landscapes exist nearby, too.
I found Pierre Mollier as the french freemason historian and i found some links regarding Sarkozy apparently being a free mason. I did not find Morange being mentioned.
Quote:
Coignard ticks off the Elf-Aquitaine African bribery scandal, the Paris housing projects scandal in the 1990s, and now the Carlton affair—an ongoing investigation of a prostitution ring in Lille. “They’re mostly all Masons,” says Coignard of the Carlton’s ringleaders (Dominique Strauss-Kahn, also embroiled in the Carlton affair, is not a Mason.)
Not the French. In many ways, French Masonry has struck out on its own, ignoring the basic precepts of its Anglo-Saxon brethren and positioning itself as a counterweight to the deeply conservative Catholic and monarchist strains of French society. “Freemasonry has always had a political role in France,” says Pierre Mollier, director of archives at the Grand Orient de France, the country’s largest and most important lodge. “We would never tell people who to vote for, but we’re a moral authority.”
http://mobile.businessweek.com/articles/2012-04-19/france-where-freemasons-are-still-feared
Also quote:
In France there are two dominant themes when it comes to critics of Freemasonry. The theme found in news magazines like Le Point, Nouvel Observateur, and Marianneemphasizes the clusters of Masons found in the highest posts of our largest public-private corporations, i.e., EDF, GDF, Areva, SNCF, etc. There is definite circumstantial evidence of the power of this network, though the only common thread between the beneficiaries is that they are republicans who do not wish for a monarch and are probably not devout Catholics (since there is a Latae Sententiae excommunication in place for Catholic Masons).
http://intellibriefs.blogspot.co.at/2009/11/freemasons-of-sarkozy.html?m=1
http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/11/freemasons-against-the-modern-world/
http://www.freemasoninformation.com/2011/01/some-10000-french-masons-want-to-join-grand-lodge-of-spain/
So if we could find Morange being close to Sarkozy ….
I do not know Pierre Mollier, but that name caught my attention immidiately.
Berlusconi was a P2 member and therefore connected to Memphis-Misraim.
I believe that Annecy has more political importance in this world than we would ever have thought of. Can we somehow link the al Hillis to freemasonry? Was he one of the mentioned London Iraqis who risk their lives by organising freemasonry in Iraq? What’s about his friends, e.g. Gary Aked. Can we find some mason link for him?
When Saad was a mason, then we would know about why he loved Annecy.
Can we link that American white collar crook who was recently arrested in annecy to freemasonry?
NR, well spotted about Megeve and the Rothschilds! I had forgotten about that, although I
used to go there on skiing holidays, hence my original interest in this story.
Yes, Megeve has a much more interesting history than Les Arcs!
Found that when searching for masons in our story
Mr Brun aka Skull Kid aka dirt of dirty.
http://www.myspace.com/onedirt/photos/12317307
After having watched the photo, check the profile! He is lisred as a “macon”.
I found Pierre Morange as a macon. However, my French is not good enough to verify whether or not freemasonry was meant there.
http://patrimoine-de-france.com/Metiers/macon.php?20
And finally, here are some REAL conspiracy links. Maybe there is a piece of truth. I am no mason but being just a bird, i am sure that unintentionally i had similar handshakes in my life, too. 🙂
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1699564/pg1
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/codex_magica/codex_magica08.htm
http://www.whale.to/b/12_masonic_signs.html
Mr Brun aka Skull kid – warning, just coincidence
What is a skull kud. It is a Nintendo game.
http://zeldawiki.org/Skull_Kid
Lives in lonely forest.
No face, wears the head of a cow sometimes (dead cow?)
Can shoot projectiles.
Is dangerous.
It is a pretty weird story that could happen in the annecy forests when somebody thinks that he is skull kid.
Of course just a strange idea after i found freemason mr. Brun aka skull kid aka dirt of the dirtiest.
@ Bluebird @all
Watch what you wish for: Previously on marilynztomlins.com
I commended the Connecticut police, in the aftermath of the school shooting, for saying they would investigate people making threats against others on social media. I thought they meant to prevent this type of Internet foolishness:
http://www.thelocal.se/45142/20121218/#.UNB4ZG_AexU
But unexpectedly this is what they intended:
http://www.infowars.com/facebook-suspends-account-for-questioning-official-narrative-on-shooting/
Of course the so-called MSM, including some “respected” unpaid freelance blogger sites such as Huffington, can publish whatever disinformation and nonsense they wish. A very few of the MSM (Fox & National Public Radio) are still today issuing apologies and corrections for the many factual errors reported since last Friday.
Wait ’til EM figures out how this works. He’ll shut us all down for questioning his stories.
From Bluebird’s link above:
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio
“Vincenzo Vinciguerra claimed during his trial: ‘You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public to turn to the State to ask for greater security.’”
Mr Brun aka skull kid akaThe Dirt of Dirty Bastard.
I was wondering about what could mean the dirt of dirty bastard?
Found that:
http://xms.songmeanings.net/m/song/49660/
http://therumpus.net/2009/01/digging-for-dirt-the-life-and-death-of-odb-by-jaime-lowe/
Btw. Skull kid has only a chain saw and an old pistol and the well known forest to hide, while his “enemies” have automatic weapons of any kind.
NR thanks for the infowars link.
I am shocked that they can prosecute them for their opinions.
This is 1984 and the ministry of truth. Better than Orwell did ever describe it.
I learnt today that you will be arrested and prosecuted in California simply when you are wearing a bullet proof vest. No weapons necessary. Wear a bullet proof vest and you will go into jail? Why? Simply because it is more difficult for police to shoot you dead when they wish to.
Can we arrest and prosecute Mr Maillaud and Mr Martin for misinformation? 🙂
@ bluebird 19 Dec, 2012 – 9:01 am
“Mr Brun aka Skull kid – warning, just coincidence. What is a skull kud. It is a Nintendo game.
http://zeldawiki.org/Skull_Kid
Lives in lonely forest. No face, wears the head of a cow sometimes (dead cow?)”
Marilyn, over at marilynztomlins.com said, we thought jokingly, that in the pic of the cows on the road surrounding the press cars, that one of the cows in the center, looking straight at the camera, looked very suspicious and could be the shooter. But she didn’t put a smiley face on her remark.
What if the shooter escaped in a cow costume – they could make them better these days, photorealistic – but he or she would need an accomplice to run one end or the other. Or maybe it was animatronic and the shooter just rode inside. We are all looking for 4x4s and motorbikes and the shooter escaped inside a cow! 🙂
On Masonic signs: #1 = pointing of the index finger in a photograph. My computer has Masonic signs built right in. Whenever the cursor crosses a link, it changes to a hand with the index finger pointing straight up! 🙂
Annecy, the general assembly of freemasons. Carte Postale.
http://postcards.bidstart.com/Annecy-the-General-assembly-of-Freemasons-CPA-/11773992/a.html
Addendum: I said above:
“A very few of the MSM (Fox & National Public Radio) are still today issuing apologies and corrections for the many factual errors reported since last Friday.”
What if what they at first inadvertently reported was the truth, and now they’re correcting the reports to match the “offical” version?
On the intersection of occult or black magik and stage magic. Stage magic is useful and used in simple extractions, but it could also be used in an elaborate extraction involving dead bodies. I’ll bet someone like David Copperfield, given a large enough budget, could manage something like what happened at Chevaline. If it was an extraction.
Or, say, someone wanted a large group to believe they were witnessing some horror, like a human sacrifice, but didn’t want to really sacrifice anybody? They could do some stage magic.
Or the reverse, they wanted a real magik sacrifice, but if anyone catches them at it, they say, “Oh, it’s just an old magic trick. Here’s how it’s done.”
Or they trick someone into thinking they’re doing stage magic, for a movie maybe, and don’t tell the actors all of the details of the trick, or they substitute a real weapon, or the actor misunderstands part of the trick, and the actor finds to his or her horror that he or she has killed someone dead.
I wonder what David Copperfield’s first movie role was?
Annecy
It’s churches reveal tge secrets of Dec. 21st 2012 and the 26.000 years sun turn. Annecy churches provide hidden signs of the Templars and the truth about Christianity like no churches elsewhere in this world.
Very exciting to read. A lot of that i already knew, but i did not know that this is Annecy where it comes from.
http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/The%20sunny%20side%20of%20Christianity.html
Much recommended to read. No conspiracy! Just facts. Exciting reading. You won’t be disappointed. Annecy reveals a lot of riddles regarding Christianity and the Templars.
Bluebird: There’s a related story here about the village of Bugarach.
http://www.marilynztomlins.com/articles/12-21-2012-end-of-world-bugarach-says-do-not-come-here/
NR
Bugarach is stupid conspiracy. Not worth to mention at all. However, the mason and templar signs in Annecy churches regarding Isis and Osiris and the new world order (pesce towards aquarius new world time), end of catholic chiristianity fake, are reality.remember the musical “hair” – the song “time of aquarius”?
However, i found a new interesting connection (in fact 2) with freemasons in lebanon.
Quote:
SCHOOL OF KNOWLEDGE lebanon:
Every Church built prior to the second worldwar is a Masonic building and has within its boundaries the lessons taught at Masonic Lodges.Masons attending Lodges during the week would learn the principles associated with the very first Schools of Knowledge known to Man. This knowledge was presented by God himself to Mankind.
http://www.freemasonlb.net/school_of_knowledge.html
Trinity Colleges are freemason colleges. Frederick Humphries’ wife is a teacher at trinity school. Benjamin Franklin (freemason) who was a member of the Annecy Grande lodge while he was in france, is an ancestor of humphries.
Then we have the al Khawams being lebanese christians. Now i quote: every church in lebanon prior to WW2 was a freemason building …
While searching for masonry of eric maillaud, i stumbled across stan maillaud. He is said to be a mason. Perhaps just bad conspiracy by somebody as we do not know. However, is he somehow related to eric maillazd? Perhaps?
http://stanmaillaud81.over-blog.com/m/article-30902778.html
http://lavapeur.over-blog.fr/m/article-111327748.html
http://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Stan-Maillaud-sur-le-meurtre-de-deux-gendarmes-a-Collobrieres-12998.html
Here is a Stan Maillaud link in english.
Amencey is not that far from annecy.
http://planet.infowars.com/activism/france-activists-against-pedophilia-jailed-stan-maillauds-affair
And here is about ex-gendarme stan maillaud’s family. Where can we put Eric Maillaud there into that mason family?
Informations About “Stan” Maillaud
“Stan Maillaud is the grand son of Pierre Maillaud (also called Pierre Bourdan), former resistant. Pierre Maillaud is the origin of “the French Agency Independent”, London. Politician and journalist, he talks to Radio London (BBC) from July 1940 to June 1944, participated in the program “The French people speak to the French people.” He became minister of culture after the war and prepare a draft law on the status of the press, calls for the abolition of “prior authorization” which governed the press … He died strangely.”
Now this vid(s) fits perfectly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Bu6pZ0HPw
Some insight in the mason-handshake, signs, dates, Royals, bloodlines and many more…..
BTW: who is this Sandra Barr? Truthseeker 444
Any ideas?
Seems, she’s quite good in linking things- maybe sometimes quite farfetched and coincidentally
But… have a look by yourself!
Or re-look
Oh
Pierre Bourdin nee Maillaud is the grandfather of gendarme Stan Maillaud who strangely disappeared. Dont know whether or not he is the grandfather of Eric Maillaud.
Pierre Bourdin was a mason.
Now, he really died strangely. He was sailing in 1948 and suddenly he drowned as his boat was sinking into a “hole” in the lake. Dind’t we discuss a similar sailing accident before?
It isnt just Mollier or al Hilli who die strangely, but the Maillaud family, too.
http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-44417776.html
It is german. Did not find anything in english regarding his death.
Here is a book of pierre maillaud:
http://books.google.com/books/about/France.html?id=ZCLK64doHqQC&redir_esc=y
And here is a better biography, however, in german only.
http://www.munzinger.de/search/portrait/Pierre+Bourdan/0/1513.html
BB: Did you find more than this single sentence at this spiegel-site?
I can’t
Shelock
No. Only this sentence but it says how he died. Who was the other guy who disappeared from a sailing boat? Seems to be a commin death.
I need help of somebody i am not good in recognizing facds.
Please check google picture of eric maillaud and stan maillaud and tell me whether or not they can be brothers.
Stan Maillaud is in reality Christian Maillaud, but friends are calling him Stan. So you will find photos of Stan Maillaud only. Stan/Christian Maillaud is missing and probably dead. His friends were arrested for no apparent reason. He got missing on sept 22 2012.
Does somebody blackmail Eric?
This is interesting to read, but french:
http://novusordoseclorum.discutforum.com/t3009-recherche-d-infos-sur-stan-maillaud
BB: sorry, I remember vaguely- but withount any name.
Do you have any idea who is the truthseeker 444?
Seems he/she knows quite well about masons et all….
background and word of this missing Stan Maillaud
http://transition888.heavenforum.org/t788-sos-disparition-suspecte-de-stan-maillaud
(so far, couldn’t find a link to a “frere” Eric…..
There are still links available from november, telling he’s alive….
.. should read “work”
Thank you
NR
19 Dec, 2012 – 6:21 am for the suggestions on Maralyn’s site incl the following very rational one. Problem is the British have never denied the military types WERE from their Paris Embassy. Peter emphasises below my point that this of itself is extremely unusual. If true it at leasts suggests preparation for something. My guess is Will and Kate but dispatched because incident relatively close but I could easily be wrong, and it was indeed back up for SAH’s mission. If the latter it HAD to be an important and dangerous one which makes taking his family with him rather unbelievable doesn’t it?
Peter
12-18-2012 at 15:08:49@ Lynda
I very strongly suspect that, if there ever were “twenty military types” at the scene of the crime, they were members of the 27 Chasseurs Alpins
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/27e_bataillon_de_chasseurs_alpins
from nearby Cran-Gevrier.
Just as the UK police might get some specialist advice from the SAS if they were looking for a suspect potentially hiding out in the mountains, it would make sense for the gendarmerie to consult the Chasseurs Alpins, who know that particular area very well.
Regarding the UK Embassy in Paris, I am quite familiar with that institution – they simply *do not have* twenty crew-cut bods on site. They have a few security staff and there is this outfit
http://ukinfrance.fco.gov.uk/en/about-us/working-with-france/defence/
a few houses down from the Ambassador’s Residence, but those are senior military bureaucrats.