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The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?

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  • James

    The RQ-170 Sentinel Drone.

    The USA claim it crashed. Iran claim it was spoofed. You decide ?

  • Q

    Japan invoked an international treaty within an hour of the earthquake on March 11, 2011 as per the article from the Small Satellite Conference noted above:

    “International Charter ‘Space and Major Disasters’ was activated at 15:24 (JST), less than an hour after the earthquake, by JAXA / Cabinet Office.”

    I think that there may well be images very close to the time of the earthquake and tsunami, but that they have been embargoed under the charter. The reasons why Japan might want to do this would be many, including political motives and financial ones.

    Ultimately, this disaster showed the usefulness of small satellites and highlighted the need to increase their numbers.

    If it’s not a matter of an embargo, what could have caused all satellites in the area of Japan on March 11, 2011 to malfunction and stop taking images of Japan for one day?

    I’ve been reading about techniques of disposing of nuclear waste at sea, legal or not. One involves scattering waste on the ocean’s surface. Another involves drilling holes in the seabed to deposit contained waste in the ocean floor.

    There’s also the matter of various kinds of nuclear fuel being shipped to and from Japan. As we know, ships are required to have GPS tracking devices which can be monitored by satellite. I’m sure some ships don’t follow the rules. And American GPS satellites are equipped with nuclear sensors and detonators, as explained in the wiki piece I posted. Could this tsunami/earthquake have been a catastrophic mistake?

  • Q

    @James: Spoofing is a big problem:

    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/07/drone-hijacking/all/

    GPS has vulnerabilities. China and others are now getting into this field. I think your question about Saad al-Hilli and spoofing is a good one.

    Could a number of earth-observing satellites be spoofed on the same day? If a single GPS satellite were spoofed, would it set off a chain reaction in other satellites that were relying on it for data? Could a single signal jam any satellites in the area? What about viruses?

    Military satellites are supposed to be protected, but is this really so?

    The one-day lack of data is a red flag to me. If something like a gamma ray burst or electromagnetic pulse had damaged the satellites, wouldn’t they be out of commission for some time, possibly forever?

  • Q

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:gA7SWDhBRGsJ:www.responsivespace.com/Papers/RS5/SESSION%2520PAPERS/SESSION%25203/3005_EVES/3005P.pdf+satellite+spoofing+%2B+SSTL&hl=en&gl=ca&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgZXFvYPxypf1Lr5t_Ymjtt4FAY2inf0diA9eYMWiEtEtfNHjGMflFHYjtoCFvfGdG3ZSUMyg_UD_kz4WBZemw__yi8ufm5eBrVNPdh0I2jJJ1b0cJmyqDkbagkrEmSsIv1ZXW6&sig=AHIEtbQCHppmVs50N2AEY1uecMTDtgWDOA

    Spoofing and jamming are mentioned here, as SSTL explains its AstroSAR-UK satellite, designed for military use.

  • Q

    It is incredibly difficult to believe that Saad al-Hilli did not have a security clearance of any kind at some point in his life.

    So a mechanical engineer who was born in Iraq walks into the offices of a company that builds military satellites and starts working…

  • Ricki Tarr

    Q – Land Crusier I think is typical of the 4X4 that would be available in the Middle East and is
    Probably very popular I think this was a generalisation!

  • Tim V

    Q @ 3.33 “The story begins with the fuel rods themselves, and what it means when they fail. Fuel rods are zirconium alloy tubes that contain the radioactive uranium in reactor cores. If they fail, radiation is next contained by the coolant system. The third and final level of defense is the actual containment building.”

    A little while back in the American Presidential election debates I was struck by Joe Biden’s response on Iran. He repeated with some emphasis “Iran is not going to get a nuclear bomb”. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE5tbgDHw7I On national television I doubt he would have made such an unambiguous statement without a degree of certainty. Was it based on knowledge of a planned attack by US or Israel? Or was it based on knowledge relating to technological problems that would sabotage some element of urananium concentration or bomb design or detonation.

    It was something I suggested a long time ago but here we go again. Could Mollier’s role have been a Brit/US Intelligence asset used to supply technical information to Iran on nuclear matters intended to embed such flaws as to undermine their nuclear efforts. It is common knowledge they did experience problems with enrichment and prob others. Or was SAH the double agent Iran trusted and Mollier was a source feeding to him? Just flailing in the hope it might ring a bell.

    Then just another thing from the debate arising from the Lybian attack (not a consulate apparently but centre for shipping arms to Syria it is claimed) Paul Ryan in passing stated “Our Ambassador in Paris has a Marine Detachment guarding him – shouldn’t we have had one in Bengazi?” Now as far as I know the British Ambassador doesnt keep a detachment of Marines. Is it possible that the “twenty military types” were American rather than British????

  • Tim V

    Very odd Q
    8 Jan, 2013 – 4:05 pm. Perhaps the eathquake induced a shake in the satellite that ruined the image??????? (Of course I jest)

  • Tim V

    but an exceedingly bright flash or a radio pulse might be a different matter or even more likely something on them that required embargo

  • Q

    @Tim V 11:10 p.m.: We have come full circle, and those questions and possibilities seem to be as valid as ever.

  • bluebird

    Off topic, perhaps not, because it shows that assassinations are used for achieving political goals today. While 20 years ago, people were killed only because when they became dangerous for homeland security, today people are being killed because they oppose political plans. Perhaps they are being killed because what they are doing does not fit into the political agenda of the opposite party. Summary: The level for a reason to be killed is getting very low. Let’s see the SAH assassination from that point of view.

    Off topic coincidences.
    Keith Ratliff was found dead, tied to a chair and shot into the back of his head. Police says that ot was suicide.
    John Noveske was killed in a strange single car accident.

    Both guys were some of the most prominent gun lobbyists.
    Just a strange coincidence with those accidents and suicides? Did we ever consider that SAH perhaps committed family suicide?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2259190/Keith-Ratliff-Popular-online-guns-explosives-expert-shot-death-rural-Georgia-road.html

    http://libertyandsuch.com/manager-of-fpsrussia-found-murdered/

    http://fnforum.net/forums/freestyle-room/36265-john-noveske-involved-fatal-car-accident.html

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/foghorn/john-noveske-killed-in-car-accident/

  • bluebird

    Neurostim….

    Links together Morange, Schutz, al Saffar and al Allaf.

    And it links to American shooters.

    And it links to Israel’s TEVA.

    This is no future. This is present!

    http://hplusmagazine.com/2009/12/23/cognitive-commodities-neuro-marketplace/

    http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/12/24/1350229/is-neurostim-becoming-a-reality

    http://www.neurostim.eu/

    And then, there is neurostim software. Let a person sit in front of a computer screen triggered with neurostim software and he would not even know that something in the background of his computer screen is manipulating his brain by e.g. short flicker rates.

    http://qneuro.rutgers.edu/Lists/Software/DispForm.aspx?ID=1

    Since I had personally seen two healthy young people falling into an eptileptic coma due to a computer screen that had a technical problem, i definitely know that flicker rates can destroy your brain consciousness.

    I am not so sure whether or not SAH is the person to search for the reason. We did ignore the multi billion $ neurostim biomed business. Ot’s not just money involved but it is a most important thing for future and present military operations. Neurostim mind control.

  • NR

    @ Kenneth Sorensen
    You can click on these links; they are UK. Besides there is nothing happening today in Colorado or in New Mexico with the aliens. 🙂

    “A laser weapons system that can shoot down two drones at a distance of over a mile has been demonstrated by Rheinmetall Defence.”

    “The German defence firm used the high-energy laser equipment to shoot fast-moving drones at a distance. The system, which uses two laser weapons, was also used to cut through a steel girder a kilometre away.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20944726

    A German death ray! I want one of those before the gangstas across the street get one, and before the guv’mint forbids citizens to own them.

    It is a dangerous business to be an expert on Russian oraganized crime.

    “However, the consensus among US officials involved in the case is that despite years of denials, Iran’s intelligence service was almost certainly behind the 54-second video and five photographs.”

    “An expert on Russian organised crime, Mr Levinson, who would now be 64, retired from the FBI in 1998 and became a private investigator. He was investigating cigarette smuggling in early 2007, and his family has said that took him to the Iranian island of Kish, where he was last seen.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9789263/Former-FBI-agent-missing-in-Iran-photographed-in-Guantanamo-jumpsuit.html

    The Daily Mail acknowledges there are many unanswered questions about the Sandy Hook school shootings in Connecticut, but then goes on to deplore anyone who does not accept the official story. The reader’s comments mostly disagree with the DM. One quotes, “The further a society drifts from Truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” – George Orwell

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2259104/Newtown-shooting-Conspiracy-theory-professor-says-Sandy-Hook-shooting-happened.html

    I think here we have have had only one comment from a person, maybe a friend or associate of SAH, who deplored our theorizing, unusual for these discussions, where typically many people object to anyone asking questions on the grounds it will cause survivors grief or “The police know more than you do, so shut up”.

  • NR

    Over at MZT a new commenter came up with something interesting about BM that I don’t think anyone suggested so far.

    SUNFLOWER 1-8-2013 at 20:16:23

    http://www.marilynztomlins.com/articles/the-chevaline-shootings-saad-al-hilli-sylvain-mollier-brett-martin-philippe-didierjean-and-xavier-baligant/comment-page-73/#comment-8904

    Oui 1-8-2013 at 23.39.33
    And there is this about Marc Rich, Clinton’s friend, and his many connections to Mossad as a ”sa-ayon” which I didn’t know of, but you have likely discussed already.

    Also, British/US publisher Robert Maxwell’s mysterious death and his alleged connections to Mossad.

  • bluebird

    Neurostim, mollier

    Found a health blog where a guy with the name MollieR is asking for neurostimulation because of his pain. Posts from 2004 (before he met Ms Schutz).

    There are in total 39 posts of MollieR. Of course we dont know whether or not this is our Mollier.

    Pierre Morange is into Neurostimulation biotech pharmacy. And Mohammad al Allaf is one of the first scientists dealing with neurostimulation. And so are a dozen more al Allafs and al Saffars leading figures in neurostim science, as well as a couple of other Morange people.
    Here is the blog. I cannot give all 39 links here but you can find the other 38 posts. But be quick. If it is related, the clean team will delete it quickly.

    http://www.healthboards.com/boards/back-problems/161117-aching-feet-ankles.html

  • bluebird

    More on neurostim

    (i am following this route now because there are the most connectivities between the allaf/saffar/morange characters and the recent events.

    http://www.utdallas.edu/news/2012/7/19-18871_Research-Shows-Nerve-Stimulation-Can-Help-Reorgani_article-wide.html

    http://www.news-medical.net/news/20120914/Trigeminal-Nerve-Stimulation-an-interview-with-Dr-Leon-Ekchian-President-and-CEO-of-NeuroSigma.aspx

    http://www.anthem.com/medicalpolicies/policies/mp_pw_a053286.htm

    Who could not feel any pain? See below:

    http://www.neurotucson.com/medical-specialties/pain-management-tucson/neurostimulation/

    And more:

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurostimulation

    In addition to the enormous usage of neurostimulation for clinical applications, it is also used widely in laboratories started dates back to 1920s by people link Delgado who used stimulation as an experimental manipulation to study basics of how the brain works. The primary works were on the reward center of the brain in which stimulation of those structures led to pleasure that requested more stimulation. Another most recent example is the electrical stimulation of the MT area of primary visual cortex to bias perception. In particular, the directionality of motion is represented in a regular way in the MT area. They presented monkeys with moving images on screen and monkey throughput was to determine what the direction is. They found that by systematically introducing some errors to the monkey’s responses, by stimulating the MT area which is responsible for perceiving the motion in another direction, the monkey responded to somewhere in between the actual motion and the stimulated one. This was an elegant use of stimulation to show that MT area is essential in the actual perception of motion. Within the memoryfield, stimulation is used very frequently to test the strength of the connection between one bundle of cells to another by applying a small current in one cell which results in the release of neurotransmitters and measuring the postsynaptic potential. Generally a short but high frequency current such as 100 Hz helps strengthening the connection called as long term potentiation. However, longer but low frequency current leads to weaken the connections called as long term depression.[25] Finally, combining neurostimulation with neural recording devices can lead us to the brain-computer interface, which currently seems to be more than just a reality, but a daily necessity.

  • Kenneth Sorensen

    The right honoured Mr. David Irving is interviewed for a new documentary about freespeech by a chap called Rex Broomstein.

    🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
    Irving says that Mr. Bloomstein’s future career is now threatened 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

    Mr. Bloomstein says that he was previously in favour of all denial of ‘the holocaust’ should be banned, but since he started working with documentaries he has changed his mind completely. And this interview with Irving is perhaps his way of making good past mistakes.

    It all go to show that there still could be misdirected unfortunates out there in favour of banning “holocaust denial” [sic!].

    And they need to be confronted every day and told how stupid and misdirected they are, and that it is THEY that is a threat to the free society.

  • Q

    @Marlin: Straw44berry posted a link to another forum:

    http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061028459&postcount=90

    It references this person:

    http://www.bis.gov.uk/ukspaceagency/careers/i-work-in-space/professor-richard-crowther

    Is this one of the connections Saad al-Hilli made while he was working at Rutherford Appleton? The scientific community is really a small one. Even world-wide, scientists who specialize in a specific field are interconnected by their work and conferences. Personal connections are important and considerable.

  • NR

    @ Kenneth Sorensen 9 Jan, 2013 – 1:59 pm
    “It all go to show that there still could be misdirected unfortunates out there in favour of banning “holocaust denial” [sic!].”
    “And they need to be confronted every day and told how stupid and misdirected they are, and that it is THEY that is a threat to the free society.”

    Yes, not allowing people to question official versions of things turns secular society into a religion, where citizens recite a catechism, “I believe in the one true holocaust…”

    Or the one true global warming, the 9/11 story, the Sandy Hook story, etc. If they don’t they’re declared heretics and blasphemers and in some countries jailed.

  • Q

    @NR: Speaking of this story, remember some of the lines? Saad al-Hilli couldn’t possibly have had security clearance because he was born in Iraq. The al-Hillis must have been killed by racists. It had nothing to do with the obvious: Saad al-Hilli’s line of work. A lone nutter did it, completely at random. No, it was a family feud. No, it was a settling of accounts over money and assets held in a Swiss bank. Etc.

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