The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Nice brainstorming NR
10 Feb, 2013 – 4:44 am but it’s easy to slip into the impractical or irrational isn’t it? Leaving aside the reliability of WBM testimony on a vehicle, there is clear observable evidence of there being a vehicle on site (probably a 4×4) that swept a circular arc from a skidding start. If it wasn’t the killer’s vehicle, and it certainly fits, it must have been made recently by another vehicle unrelated to the killing. Highly unlikely I would say. Even EM confirms there was a forestry vehicle on site at the very time of the incident yet quite innocent! Yet it took several weeks to identify it. How coincidental and unbelievable is that?
It’s worth considering your idea that SM might have been an advance scout/body guard making sure all was clear before WBM arrived. Trouble is although quite possibly a skilled hunter, there is no evidence that SM had had any military or specialist training and middle management in a metal factory doesn’t appear to be likely background for it. Then again would you send a French speaker (although we haven’t completely nailed his linguistic proficiency) to a meet with a foreigner? Then again looking at the triathlon WBM, despite his TV image, I have no doubt he could handle himself if push came to shove. He’s more like the Kevin Costner here. He MUST have heard the shots and either he was already there or he pressed on, knowing they had been made. Now this indicates a high degree of bravery or stupidity UNLESS he was convinced the killers had departed or he was otherwise sacrosanct.
James
10 Feb, 2013 – 10:19 am I think WBM’s story about the car can be accepted, in part at least. The car was “stuck” because the driving rear wheels were spinning in reverse and it was against the bank. This corroborated by the obvious fact that had it been in a forward gear it would have ended up in the stream(!) and there are clear rubber burn marks in the layby. Had all the doors been locked, as they may well have been – after all it would be an obvious thing for SAH to do if he was under attack from outside, pushing through a crazed window to turn off the engine, would be a quite believable action. The noise and smell would be understandable additional sensory motivators. Where his story doesn’t make sense is moving the bodies unless he thought the car might be stuck in a FORWARD gear which might not have been immediately discernable. This action is more understandable in the case of the living Zainab than the dead Sylvain. What clinches it however is that there is absolutely no evidence of blood in front of the vehicle, so certainly the heavily bleeding Sylvain COULD NOT have lain there as Martin claims. Sylvain must have lain adjacent to to the passenger side of the car and out of danger even were it to “lurch forward” as he put it. This proves his reason for moving that particular body (to where we can’t be sure) spurious.
Now as to your suggestion that he broke the window glass just to provide explanation for Molliers blood on SAH’s is a bit too far fetched I would think. Second hand blood rubbed on to clothing say, is very different to sprayed blood from gunshot. In any event I think I saw it reported it was on Al Hilli’s shoes that would be hidden from Martin. If Martin had been the killer and he was looking for explanation for SAH’s blood on HIM, it might work. In which case what would be his explanation for the women? No I go along with WBM’s account on this one.
Finally (and how many finally’s are there on this one?) the BMW obviously reversed but it is clear it had not had sufficient distance or time to build up speed. This is multipy indicated by the lack of damage to the rear valance, the comparatively shallow indent in the bank, the fact that the air bags did not fire and significantly the mysterious cap on the dashboard was still in place. Even a moderate bupm would have sent it backwards onto the passenger seat.
I’m not sure if a BMW E60 Touring (GB) come with automatic central locking as “standard”, but I’m sure that this can be config’d by the dealer (or carsoft).
So if I assume he has it, I’m unsure if it activates “in reverse only” or does if it requires forwards motion also.
Assuming it just requires any motion (or period of time) and that Al Hilli had it on his vehicle. I would then be able to understand why the vehicle was indeed locked.
Now we have the eldest girl outside the vehicle.
I cannot believe (in mortal danger or not) Al Hilli would leave his daughter behind as he tried to escape.
Which then leads to the question, if she was in the vehicle at the at the time, how did she escape ?
The only obvious answer…and one I an inclined to believe is that a safety feature on the E60 was activated, that being in the event of a collision or impact, the automatic central locking is released.
If this is so, would it then relock after a period of time ?
Or would it this mean that it would have to be re config’d in order for it to operate again ?
If it needed to re config’d, then when Martin arrived at the scene, there would be no need for him to break the window of the vehicle for him to gain access.
I think that detail is CRUCIAl.
As it would lead to the questions (or answer)….
1 Why was the window broken ?
AND therefore
2 Why were the series of crime scene photos taken and released ?
I think you might have scored a bulls eye there Bluebird
10 Feb, 2013 – 12:20 pm. I have a feeling in my bones you may well be right and what we are seeing here is an attempt at a “mopping up ” operation. What ever we think of Chevaline, once we have ruled out “average” criminality for lack of motive basically, and lone psychotic nutters for a variety of reasons (unlike the gullible Maillaud) we only have vindictive or cover-up motivation left and only wealthy individuals or states as perpetrators. The sophistication of the operation, the collusion by the French State and the brutality of the action must point to a BIG issue. Something to do with Iran nuclear obviously presents itself, but the big issue above all big issues, is the circumstances of 9/11 and who was behind it. It is truly the clay feet of the golden idol. If planned and carried out by its own agencies, it would be a crime , too great to accept. It has taken more than ten years for the official explanation to crumble. The consequences of proving it so would be difficult to imagine. Any number of “truthers” and inconvenient witnesses have undoubtedly expired in suspicious numbers and circumstances. We are told SAH was convinced of US/CIA?Mossad culpability and had advertised that view. But he was far more than an opinion holder. He had links to BOEING as did WBM and it was Boeing planes (two 757 and 767’s) that were allegedly used in the attacks. No plane parts were found at the Pentagon. The second plane to hit the North Tower is clearly not a conventional aircraft with a large bulge attached to the underside. Did SAH and his immediate family have access to PROOF that the attacks on the 11th September 2oo1 was in fact an US/Israeli conspiracy? Was an Iranian front involving Cezus and Mollier set up just to lure the Al Hillis to their deaths to stop further revelation and potential breach of the leaking dam?
James
10 Feb, 2013 – 2:53 pm the arial shot clearly shows two bullet holed in the driver’s door window IN ADDITION to a hole that would approximate to WBM’s claimed hand hole. The large hole may hide another bullet hole that was there but we have at least the two head shots accounted for. Whether these were made whilst the car was still moving or come to rest is anybody’s guess. A speeding car would be impossible though a slow moving might be. In any event it places the killer right next to the door and he obviouly wasnt interested in turning off the engine (unless it was WBM) or opening up the car to look for anything inside. In respect to the Al Hilli’s at least, certain death appears to be the one and only objective.
I am personally sceptical of the claim that this was only one weapon – an old and potentially unreliable luger. I simply do not believe this expensive and sophisticated killing would chance a misfunctioning weapon. Are the ballistic results reliable? We just don’t know but they at first came up with the Skorpion even though they must at that stage have already been in possession of the claimed Luger handle part which is inexplicable. Further the luger part is just too convenient. Again using a weapon that was falling apart? Why announce a Skorpion when the part had been found at the beginning? Then there is official suggestion of at least two other weapons I believe.
Thirdly have you noticed how initially Maillaud said he thought this was a professional killing and by more than one shooters. This has been progressively closed down to only one gun, one killer, unprofessional, unplanned, only a motor bike, no 4 wheeler let alone 4 wheel drive, not even rational. Good one Maillaud, you must feel proud of yourself.
Tim V
You have missed the point !
He broke the window as an explanation of Mollier’s blood on Al Hilli ???
Not at all.
But a person that had traces of fibres or blood on him FROM Al Hilli AND FROM Mollier …as well as traces or fragments of glass on him, could be said to be “the hitman”.
I would expect “that” to be found on a person using a pistol at close range !
Surely that would seem logical ????
So who else (fibre and fragment wise) who contain such items ????
Over to you !
“We are 99% sure he was nothing to do with it,” Mr Maillaud said.
Because they are 99% sure he (SM) was to do with it !.
I have one certainty: The family was murdered because SAH could identify criminals. Otherwise, the criminals would have left alone.
I have another certainty: the family SAH has not stopped in the parking lot, continue your way, in return is all that happened.
Back to the car park, family SAH found the cyclist (SM) stretched on the ground.
These convictions are based on the reverse movement of the BMW.
The BMW was stopped by another car, which forced him to backpedal.
8.19am
Strawberry I don’t why that’s why I am asking ,if it’s important to get Zainab back quickly what is the reason ,I cannot imagine it’s because they might put her on TV she could only embarrass the french investigation ,we have not seen a british one ,other than a couple of photo ops outside SAH’s house where there was no crime committed .
@all
I have been looking at old links again and this one is talking about previous shootings where EM uses the term “double life” to indicate an affair.
Mayor Jean-Pierre in 2009, Jacky Meynet in 2011 and in 2012 Marcel Desbiolles: Chablaisiens these three have been the victim of a gunshot. Two of them did not survive. The authors are still free.
For 4 years, the Chablais region renowned for its tranquility, is the scene of crimes and attempted crimes unsolved gunshot.
Jean-pierre Mayor in 2009, Jacky Meynet 2011, Marcel Desbiolles in 2012: in recent years, three were victims of Chablaisiens shooters. Is it one and the same person? Hard to say. Still, for the moment, none of these cases have been resolved.
In October 2009, Jean-Pierre Mayor, former police commander of Thonon-les-Bains, is the target of a gun 12 gauge shot through a window of her apartment. He was wounded in the knee by a shard of glass. A few days later, after leaving his home in Post, the officer is again the victim of a bullet this time, the hit in the head. The investigation is oriented in a first step towards a neighborhood quarrel. A track that will prove inconclusive, as was a possible settlement business account. The inquiry then moves to the private sphere.
Two and a half years later, the shooter has not been identified.
Much like the man who killed Jacky Meynet, in Champanges in May 2011. This 61 year old entrepreneur has been hit by a bullet 22-long rifle in the neck while he was eating dinner, sitting in her kitchen. The bullet was fired from outside the house through the kitchen window overlooking the rear of the cottage. A single shot was fired. This time it is the FBI that passion is preferred. The investigation has indeed revealed that the man had ” a double or triple life “had indicated the prosecutor Annecy, Eric Maillaud. Two women had been identified but are neither married nor in a couple, the assumption of a husband or jealous friend had been rejected….. read more
http://www.lemessager.fr/Actualite/Chablais/2012/06/06/article_quand_le_chablais_devient_le_pays_du_cri.shtml
We have talked about the antique Luger exploding in the gunmans hands and therefore BM as the hitman would be covered in blood.
He then needs to pretend to check if SM is dead (7 shots not enough), to put Zainab in the recovery position blood transfers to her and then to break the car windows to turn off the ignition transferring more blood to SAH.
If Bluebird’s cleaning up 9/11 has any truth then maybe SAHs online rants that we have never found were actually about 9/11 and how he could disprove the official story.
I have just seen that currently on BBC2 is the programme:- In Orbit: How Satellites Rule our World. One for BBCi Player.
Holmes I was thinking about this .
If SM is shot 5 times and then gunman/woman hears the car coming down from above,he/she throws bike “in corner of parking” drags SM towards cover and runs out of time and hides in the wood behind cars final position.
SAH drives into parking sees SM who they say is not dead at that point and gets out to see whats going on ,realising something is not good maybe even a warning from SM he grabs Zainab’s hand and runs for car ,Zainab is shot once and probably falls ,SAH is shot once losing his hold on Zainab , he then gets into the car and reverses at the gunman to try and protect Zainab.
SAH must have been shot fairly quickly before he could select a forward gear so gunman then has targets that are not going anywhere ,so why all the other bullets he uses 3 clips?
@ bluebird 10 Feb, 2013 – 12:20 pm
“As soon as getting dangerous regarding talking, they will be executes. Accidents, suicides, and assassinations will happen. Those events will be set up with signs and symbols to warn the remaining rest for staying quiet.”
In the UK paedophile scandals, Jimmy Savile, elites, politicians, orphanages, etc., there are allegedly a huge number of suspicious suicides and outright murders going back to the 1970s and 80s, of victims who attempted to reveal what happened. Don’t recall much of that in the paedophile priest scandals.
You’re correct in strange murders/suicides set up with elaborate symbolism and also the most improbable situations. The perps are showing their power, “We can do these things, that are so obviously fake, and nobody can touch us.” Otherwise it would be sufficient to quietly disappear anybody who might leak.
On the JD and AC affaire in Norfolk another oddity is the lack of helicopter aerial pics or videos of the crime site, the boatyard or the search of their dwelling.
On Sandy Hook, there’s allegedly a video of a US TV personality (Dr. Phil or Dr. Oz – I haven’t seen it) interviewing a surviving child with parent, where the child doesn’t say the “right things” and they quickly go on to something else.
There was in the US a few years ago the case of the Balloon Boy whose parents hid him in a loft or attic while claiming he was floating away in a runaway balloon in order to get their own reality TV show. The fraud came unraveled when the boy couldn’t remember his lines and barfed during a TV interview.
There is allegedly another “crisisactors” type organization called “upwithpeople” — don’t know more about it.
The family may have been shot because SM was still alive after the first shots and knew his attacker ,he would know BM from the club possibly.
On MZT in the past they were speculating about the choice of weapon and amount of ammunition carried and thought the gun could have been chosen because it was the gunmans only unregistered one ,and the 3 clips out of habit, for instance what a policeman would be used to carrying I am not sure about who else gets issued ammunition but you get the gist.
They also decided the person must have been forensically aware.
A walk man would never forced a car to return back
http://www.leparisien.fr/espace-premium/actu/ce-pistolet-est-au-coeur-de-l-enquete-12-11-2012-2312915.php
Translation at MZT
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11-12-2012 at 16:25:42
Le Parisien
This is a very special weapon that serves as a guide to the police in their investigation into the killing difficult Chevaline (Haute-Savoie): a Luger pistol. September 5, Saad al-Hilli, British aeronautical engineer on vacation with his family on the shores of Lake Annecy, his wife, Iqbal, a dentist by profession, and his stepmother, Suhaila were gunned down in the parking lot of Martinet at the mouth of a forest road, along with Sylvain Mollier, a cyclist passing a native of Ugine (Savoie), with an automatic gun Luger P 06.
Swiss Version 7.65 mm in the famous German pistol calibrated it in 9 mm.
This weapon collection very popular with fans, today is “anachronistic and obsolete references ballistic far a professional killer,” said a source close to the investigation.
Broken pieces of the butt pad found on the crime scene helped identify the weapon. “A copy of the German Luger 9mm, known for its precision, reliability, durability and ease of removal,” says Clément Brunet worker at Armory Station Lausanne (Switzerland).
Few hundred copies still in circulation in France
These famous pieces were sent to the laboratory of the renowned armory German Criminal Police. Objective: To try to find out if it has been used or Luger was recorded somewhere. Each piece of this gun has a single common number, identifying the weapon.
Chips can conceal those precious numbers.
Made from 1900 until 1929, this pistol has equipped infantry officers Swiss and French police until 1949 before being shelved.
He would about a few hundred in France. “It was a P 06 barrel a little longer than the German series to allow for greater shooting accuracy at 50 m. But it is especially the cult object of some collectors, “adds Bruno. Investigators listed collectors, dealers and traders, but these tracks have so far nothing.
A Chevaline, the killer probably used at least 3 chargers, “easy to implement,” says Bruno Clément 8 cartridges to perform its victims and hurt Zainab, 7 years, one of the couple’s two children survivors of the killing.
Le Parisien
Pink, you are on the right track. Continue, forgotten coincidences. Things that your friends in this forum do not do.
@Holmes.Pt
10 Feb, 2013 – 6:47 pm
To be fair Holmes there is no point to sticking to one point of view none of us know what happened we can only explore and see if anything comes to light a lot of people think there is a wider story to all this,I have no knowledge to contribute on that so I stick with what I can do.
James
10 Feb, 2013 – 3:35 pm I am trying hard to follow your reasoning. Are you suggesting IF WBM was the killer he would have his victim’s blood on him, so he claimed to move SM and Zainab and broke the glass to give hime a cover story for it being there? If so, I get it. But how about the back seat passengers? And we have heard nothing as to whether they checked him and his clothes out. If he was the murderer I can’t think why he wouldn’t have just gone along with the French story of him making the first call. If he had been the murderer wouldn’t he have been more likely to have slinked off by the alternative route or just cycled past “Didierjean”. And we have to ask what he did with the weapon and magazines. And wouldn’t Zainab by now have watched his TV appearance and recognised him as the attacker?
On checking the double life comment it looks like just another avenue to explore rather than something that is known.
According the Daily Mail SM was shot 5 times including 2 to the head .
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2204165/French-Alps-massacre-Could-Sylvain-Mollier-main-target.html#axzz2KWjUSAwZ
But Lt Colonel Benedict Vinnemann, who is leading the gendarme inquiry, revealed he was considering other possibilities.
He said: ‘Was the al-Hilli family the main target? Was it not the cyclist? Only ongoing work on the scene can answer this question clearly.
‘We’re talking about someone whom everybody says was a gentleman, but who’s to say he did not lead a double life?’
Not to sure if its significant but when reading some comments on Huff post I found a link to a comment supposed to be by SAH .
http://wikimapia.org/7286069/af/%D8%B1%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AF
Egypt / al-Buhhayrah / Rosetta / Рашид
Rashid is a city of magic and beauty. City Sea and the Nile, ancient city of its own style 12 enriched mosque and 22 home enriched established in the Mamluk and Ottoman era and city Rashid ranks second after the city of Cairo in terms of the amount of existing Islamic monuments
Coordinates: 31 ° 24’5 “N 30 ° 25’10” E
Mohamed Saad Hili (guest) wrote 4 years ago
Rashid, a land of history and world-renowned country
…..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta
Straw44berry10 Feb, 2013 – 5:47 pmIf Bluebird’s cleaning up 9/11 has any truth then maybe SAHs online rants that we have never found were actually about 9/11 and how he could disprove the official story.
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Exactly! That is what is my opinion after carefully investigating everything what has been found of evidence during the past 6 months.
Tim V.
Exactly. But more than that. In my opinion, he did not just try to inform but he was part of the 9/11 event planning and setup. Recently he became unhappy because the result had been different than what they had promised the Iraqi exile opposition in London pre 9/11. In fact, they had hoped for better in Iraq but it got worse and they felt being betrayed by the Americans just like they were betrayed and deceibed by the liar Lawrence of Arabia in 1916.
He began to hate the Americans and the zionists and therefore he became a dangerous piece of the 9/11 planning and executing members just like his friend al Awlaki (Aulaki) who was killed by a drone a little while earlier.
That is my opinion. This is a 9/11 clean up setup with symbolism to warn others for staying in line with the official version or else receiving the same treatment …
Pink, 1:08AM: “I am still not understanding why getting Zainab back would be important ,she would return back to the UK in the normal course of events the French are not going to keep her there what is the reason there is an urgency to get her back?”.
Just to clarify, there are a few assumption that went into my conjecture that it was important to get zainab back under UK jurisdiction:
1. There is a cover-up going on, which is however, falling apart at the seams because of cross-purposes between French and the British agencies.
2. The French likely had a deeper involvement in the killings and/or are far more susceptible to pressure by the killers’ agency than the british are. This assumption is bolstered by everything we’ve seen from EM, and the fact that we have a deafening silence from the UK.
3. Zainab by the second week has recovered enough to where she started to recall details, and could possibly even recognize individuals. Some of these details could prove problematic for the cover-up as concocted by the French, putting her in unacceptable danger, and making her physical recovery more urgent. basically the British don’t trust the french to be capable of assuring her safety.
4. THe Brits are also much more annoyed by what has transpired than the french and are actually quite keen to piece together what might have gone wrong with the original plan. If there was a leak, an unintended one to a “fourth” agency which showed up as killers, and/or there was a rogue element within the agency with whom the meeting was suupposed to take place, the British intelligence would absolutely need to know who, what and how. information Zainab knows and has seen is absolutely critical for them to get hold of as pointers to where the weak link in the original set-up was. The longer she is kept in a french hospital the more chances to play with her memory and/or instill false ones. The french could also continue to use her presence on their soil as an excuse to put things out in the public and give it dubious support from zainab’s words, like “there was only one baddie”. just another hearsay we should not actually believe.
Naturally, we must not discount the possibility – a somewhat less likely one but one which cannot be excluded, that WEB was involved in the killings personally, and Zainab, once recovered would recognize him. Perhaps she did when shown a picture as either one of the killers or one who was there during the killings. In which case, she needs to be removed immediately back home right along with the erstwhile WBM.
Finally, Zainab’s story is also critical for a ‘extraction/rendition” theory as suggested here. She could have been, for example, a child actor, who got injured by mistake, so that once recovered will need to be immediately returned to base. No child actor can be that good as to sustain a story through injury.
In any case, my conjecture that zainab needed to be returned ASAP has some solid grounds I think, no matter which scenario one holds to. TSeveral arrows all pointing in that one direction.
@ bluebird 10 Feb, 2013 – 9:29 pm
“Straw44berry10 Feb, 2013 – 5:47 pmIf Bluebird’s cleaning up 9/11 has any truth then maybe SAHs online rants that we have never found were actually about 9/11 and how he could disprove the official story.”
Alternately, what if it was not about 9/11, but the later events leading to the invasion of Iraq. Not Bush/Blair/Cheney/Halliburton/CIA and exaggeration of WMDs threat, which would surprise no one, but the deep complicity of the other political side in all that. Something that would derail the chances for the next in line to the presidential throne. That would be worth an assassination.
Tim V Feb 9 10:19 PM:
Our posts crossed – yours which lays out the full mess revealed by EM’s contradictory and improbable statements is right along the lines of what I suggest would be a more fruitful avenue of research, ie
Concentrate on the incongruous and evolving details of the cover-up, rather than spend too much time speculating which particular item as disclosed is true. Some details may be true, some may be not. But they all add up to a falsehood, which is, as you show so effectively, is falling apart by its own weight, even as a web of lies. And if the web is coming apart, showing where and how may provide clues as to what direction authorities are trying to steer us away from.
So just looking at EM’s statements as they retract, retrace, contradict, evolve and what not, is so useful.To me he is a guy entrusted with keeping some kind of a cover-up veneer going. What we know for sure so far, is that he has not done so well with this job, mostly because the british did not cooperate. Honestly, have you ever seen a worse cover-up? it doesn’t even qualify as a beginners’ fairy tale. Thatnks for laying it out in this post – I think I’ll use some of your highlighted items in the future.