The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
It’s gone quiet Suhayl Saadi
4 Mar, 2013 – 8:19 pm because the media are wholely dependent on, and don’t stray from, the official version. The old and honourable role of investigative journalism appears completely dead. Either that or all the media is uniformly subject to some sort of warning not to go there. Nothing eminating from Maillaud has been challenged. None of the blatent inconsistences followed up. No independent inquiry or anonymous sources. Not once the Swedish end of the story followed up. They all appear to accept their role as a passive conduit for whatever dubious nonsense the respective authorities wish to say. The witch hunt of phone hackers and malfeasance in public office all no doubt help persuade Editors “not to go there”. In the process individuals and organisations are able to get away with murder. Literally.
James
4 Mar, 2013 – 11:21 pm It appears that two important Iraqi/Iranian families are linked by marriage. You could hardly get a more important pre-Baathist family than the Al Hilli’s but post 1970 they were largely a spent force with arguably little domestic influence. No doubt however with their knowledge and links with western intelligence, Hashim and Khadim remained useful for insights. Saad was second generation, too young to be of much use in the first war but with father still alive in Spain, useful in the second. In return full British citizenship. He had a personal vendetta against the man who had tortured his uncle and forced his father out. It didn’t take long for disillusionment to set in in the face of the destruction, theft of Iraqi assets, targetted killings and all the rest. Now if Suhaila is linked (sister) to the 2006 abduction of Ammar al-Saffar, Saad has further reason for finding out, getting back at, securing the release of, his wife’s uncle? More to the point, he also may have been party to the contents of the report that AAS was intent on publishing. Getting all the extended family together to be neutralized ends. This is all plausible but I still can’t work out how SM fits into the picture. Perhaps just to make the reason for the meet more convincing?
How damaging would it be to have documented proof that Mossad and CIA were behind the systematic assassination of hundreds of Iraqi academics or other nefarious actions? Saad goes to Dubai. His wife ostensibly comes from Dubai. Dubai main smuggling route into Iran. Mossad assassination that goes wrong in Dubai. Major Ariva nuclear contracts Dubai. Following Dubai killing something requires the detention under exceptional conditions of one of their own. Within months a complete Mossad spy network collapses in Lebanon. This stuff is hanging together. We just need the needle and thread.
@ Trowbridge H. Ford 4 Mar, 2013 – 4:35 pm
“Still cannot find a relevant photograph of Hershkovitz at the time: only ones of him as a youth, and one where al-Abed is made out to be he.”
I do not know if these are of the WH in question, but take a look, the first two are low-res thumbnails, one younger the other older. I think this site had higher-res versions up yesterday, could be mistaken about that:
http://mi-cache.legacy.com/legacy/images/cobrands/poughkeepsiejournal/photos/pjo018191-1_20121018.jpgx?w=80&h=80&option=0
http://mi-cache.legacy.com/legacy/images/cobrands/poughkeepsiejournal/photos/pjo018180-1_20121018.jpgx?w=80&h=80&option=0
This is something he wrote under his nom de potter — William Merlin — [pic at bottom page]:
http://ulster.happeningmag.com/salt-fired-pottery/#more-3136
Is this the “young” WH you refer to, and which was used by the media?
http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2012/10/06/news/web_photos/06.1n018.israel–300×300.jpg
Tim V
I agree with your two last posts. There are so many possible reasons as long as we do not know a little bit more of Saad’s life. A lot is speculation due to deliberate disinformation by Maillaud and the media. We uncovert more lies than truth.
We won’t get any further without confirming that the Dutch al Hilli is dead or alive. This should be an easy task for a journalist. We have his phone number. Why no interview?
We won’t get any further as long as we do not know what the children said. Were they THE children or rather two already previous orphans provided by Marie Ange Mottier?
We won’t get any further as long as we do not have any information regarding Iqbal and her mother. Who were they? Hezbollah headquarters? Hezbollah intelligence? Or Mossad spies? There must be a reason that there are no pictures anywhere on the web nor in the media.
Why dont they release the picture where they are smiling in front of a flowered house shortly before being killed? Usually police is asking the general public for help and support! E.g. Who had seen these people on Sept 5th.? Where have they been? Did you see other people meeting them? Etc.
But nothing happened. Very unusual. We do not seek to get any support nor any information from the local people …
This alone makes it 100% that this was a secret operation but no “lone nutter tourist hater killer”.
We have plenty of reasons collected and documented:
Smuggling (drugs, oil for food, weapons, children, you name it)
Leaking of information (names of spies, previous operations, conspiracies, false flag operations, spy networks, you name it, names of Libyan/British/Vatican pedophile networks)
Blackmailing (“give me money for my documents”)
Stealing (getting access to illegal Iraqi money in FL or CH banks that belongs to criminals and mafia)
Providing detailed satellite maps to other governments or to the “missing people” foundation of Paul Tuohy. (e.g. Ammar al Saffar or Maddy McCann for whom Paul Tuohy was seeking detailed US sat image maps).
There are a lot of possible reasons. Perhaps and most likely there was not just one reason for the killers to kill but two or more from the above mentioned altogether.
As long as Maillaud lies and as long as no journalist investigates and asks the families with reasonable questions, as long we won’t get any results.
NR
I posted a lot of links of William Herskowitz several months ago with recent pictures. Some are on the facebook page of his mother Mrs.Wolfsohn. His grandfather and grandmother Wolfsohn are in the board of governance of the ZOA (zionist organisation of America, director Morton Klein).
NR
For your information:
http://m.legacy.com/obituaries/poughkeepsiejournal/obituary.aspx?n=&pid=160499657&referrer=0&preview=True
Here you have his whole family including his Iranian cousins.
You will find very good photos made shortly before his death on the facebook page of his mother Risa Wolfzahn. Just search “risa wolfzahn” on facebook.
NR
William Herskowitz’ own facebook page still exists.
http://www.facebook.com/william.herskowitz
He has 613 friends (maybe even Ben Alon?).
In the photo with the title “my baby and I” he is shortly before his death with his girlfriend depicted.
You can get most information about his family from his mother’s fb page and from his grandma’s fb page “Reida Herskowitz”.
One of the released prisoners said that he was in that secret prison. The Prison consists of metal caravans divided into small cells2 meters long and 1 meter wide. The ground and walls are all of rusty iron, the toilet is inside this cell too, and is sometimes blocked so the dirty water floods out. In the winter, the rain pours inside and fills the cells. Many prisoners have serious diseases,like scabies, as a result of this terrible condition. The prisoners are enduring continuous torture and many of them died after the harsh torture.
New information aboutthe torture of the security guards of Al-Hashimi& Al-Isawi
IraqiRabita reported recently that they have received new information about the methods of torture used against the security guards of Al-Hashimi and Al-Isawi.The investigators have been torturing those guards continuously for 14 days, using electricity, beating, cutting their tongues with sharp razors andthen filling their mouths with salt.
A committee from the Ministry of Interior came to see one of those prisoners, then a judge sent by Al-Maliki met him, the prisoner told the judge that he couldn’t walk, so they wrapped him with a blanket and carried him. The judge told the prisoner that this was a “political issue” and that he couldn’t do anything for him. One of the imprisoned guards told the investigator who was beating him to stop hurting him if he had some honour left. The investigator replied that the guard and his family have no honour, and that he will slaughter all the Sunni Iraqis and throw them in the Tigris River.
Just a little reminder of “free” “democratic” Iraq today:
“These are the names of some of the investigators who tortured the guards on a sectarian basis:
– Major Ali Hasan Al-Bahadli: an ex convict, accused of murder and rape. Maliki released him to torture people especially for this case.
– Lt.ColonelNema Al-Gharbawi.
– Saad Al-Lami – the judge who supports all of this.Bluebird”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/crimes-against-humanity-routine-torture-and-murder-in-iraqs-prisons/5320703?print=1
Sorry that popped up incorrectly. It should have been prefixed with my comment”Just a little reminder of “free” “democratic” Iraq today:”
Then all the rest is an extract from the referenced article.
Bluebird
5 Mar, 2013 – 10:25 am the question is whether SAH’s mothin-law, Sohaila al Allaf (74) is blood or marriage related to Ammar al-Saffar, the Public Health Minister about to produce the incriminating report that has never since seen the light of day, who was abducted by “police” in 2006. I can’t locate his age but he appears a generation younger than Sohaila and roughly same generation as Saad so if anything might be an aunt and Iqbal a cousin?
His son ALI AL-SAFFAR who is now 27/28 and lived in London in 2010. “I’m a political and economic analyst working for a British company. I’ve been living here for 23 years. I was born in Dubai, raised in the UK.” he says. I think BB already flagged up the Dubai connection. That would have been 1985 leaving in 1987 which ties in with the dates for his father’s residence in England. By then Saad would have been a young man of 19 by my calculation.
This quote is quite pertinent to the Chevaline case maybe:
“ALI AL-SAFFAR: In my mind it’s quite clear that the whole issue of ransom was almost a diversion tactic to kind of throw the, throw the authorities off the center, make it seem like, it’s a money motivated kidnapping rather than a political, corruption-based one. I think a lot of stuff that happens in Iraq is explained in this very narrow scope of sectarianism and I think quite often it misses the nuanced aspects that really need to be understood to explain the true reasons behind what is happening now. My father wasn’t kidnapped for ransom, you don’t kidnap a deputy minister, you don’t take that risk if money is the issue. There’s far more important reasons for the kidnapping, and that was to stifle the investigation.” http://warnewsradio.org/read-more/the-disappearance-of-ammar-al-saffar/
Surprise, surprise, Bluebird still cannot spell the suspect’s name, William Hershkovitz, correctly, and provides a link which is not available to resolve what he looked like when he too was murdered.
Still have only seen photographs of Hershkovitz as a mere youth, probably one from some student year which were provided twice, NR, and ones of Armando al-Abed, claiming that they are of him.
And Bluebird has never provided one of the 24-year-old murderer, as I can recall as I have been looking for them often.
Actually, all Bluebird can provide is , is information about what a friendly guy he was, and all the friends he had before the Lake Annecy fiasco – what completely refutes Israeli claims that he was always a depressed, potentially dangerous loner.
So, who really made Hershkovitz “go postal”?
This is the question we should really be answering rather than looking for clues which might have justified killing the al-Hillis et al.
Anyone had a chance to look at this one that I referred to above.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/mar/04/devizes-shooting-family-concerned-mental-wellbeing
What did he do for the Ministry of Defence? What information was he party to? What did he do in Australia (maybe just holiday?) Why did he start carrying a 12 bore or whatever around with him towards the end? Another case of “Not looking for anyone else. Case closed”.
An extract from: http://www.globalresearch.ca/crimes-against-humanity-routine-torture-and-murder-in-iraqs-prisons/5320703?print=1
“Al-Maliki himself has dropped all charges against mass murderer IsmaelHafid Al-Lami.
This well-known criminal nicknamed Abu Diriwas summoned to Al-Rasafah Criminal Court, after a direct decision by Nouri Al-Maliki to drop all charges against that man. Ismael Al-Lami was accused of many sectarian killings, kidnapping, torturing and burying the victims alive. Nouri Al-Maliki headed theAsaibAhlulHaq Militia and they formed a Special Operations Cell. This Cell is connected directly with Al-Maliki’s Office and is run by Abu Diri himself. Its main duty is to assassinate everyone opposing Al-Maliki policy. Abu Diri is a well-known killer of Iraqis, carried out many crimes in 2006 and 2007 on behalf of the Al-Mahdi Militia,Al-Jaafari and Iran. He used terrible ways to torture and killed many Iraqis, whether they were Sunni or Shiite.Later, he escaped to Iran and joined the Iranian Basij, but he went back to Iraq after an invitation from Al-Maliki himself.
Jawad Al-Bolani, the former Minister of Interior escaped to Beirut after a scandal of being involved in terroristic activities. Hamid Al-Mutlag, the Iraqi League Representative said that the former Minister of Interior Jawad Al-Bolani escaped to Beirut, after it was discovered he was involved in terrorist activities. Al-Mutlagdemanded the government to take legal actions against the officials who have corruption cases in order not to allow them to escape the country, assuring that when those corrupted people escape, and no one punishes them, the Iraqi people would never trust the government again.
Al-Mutlag said in a statement that such an escape by Al-Bolani increased the suspicions of corruption. Al-Mutlagadded that Al-Bolani had connections with terrorist activities from the first day of his job as Minister of Interior. The Parliament Defense and Security Committee haveample evidence about terrorist operations supervised by Al-Bolani and his brother. Al-Mutlag added that it’s the duty of the government to arrest such criminals to submit them to the Iraqi judiciary.
Al-Zamili: from serial killeras Deputy Minister of Health to Parliament Member in acommittee to provide security forthe iraqis!
To make things even worse, and to fully understand the anger of the Iraqi people and the demands of the Iraqi protest movement, here is the incredible case of Hakim Al-Zamili.
Hakim Al-Zamili was well known when Ibrahim Al-Jaafari was the Prime Minister in Iraq. The Iraqis used to call him the Butcher of the Ministry of Health (MOH), because he was leading militias that kidnapped employees from the MOH, or patients from the hospitals and health centres, to kill them and throw them on the garbage dump. He also formed a militia to watch the families who visited the morgues to look for their sons who were killed. A member of this militia would address one of the family members and if the victim was a Sunni, he would contact the militia to kidnap that family member and kill him. Hospitals became a source of horror for every Sunni in Iraq, because as soon as they would enter a hospital, they would be kidnapped and brutally killed.
When he held that position,the MOH distributed medicines that caused miscarriagesto pregnant women.So, Al-Elwiyah Hospital registered the miscarriages of 25 infants daily.
The most famous crimes Al-Zamili was that when his militia kidnapped Dr.Al-Al-Mahdawi who was nominated to be the Deputy Minister of Health,they met with Al-Mahdawi in the MOH building, and there he and his security guards were kidnapped, and until now they are still missing.
He was accused of kidnapping Ammar Al-Saffar,the second nominated Deputy Minister of Health,although Al-Saffar was from the Dawa Party. No one found his corpse or found out anything related to his kidnapping, until the Dawa Party closed the case for unknown reasons.
After many complaints, and after his crimes exceeded all limits, when even Al-Maliki couldn’t stop this murderous creature, the American Forces arrested him and submitted him to the Iraqi Judiciary, accused of kidnapping tens of innocent people. After he was arrested, he directly confessed things about the Minister of Health,he also mentioned to the Americans the names of 61 members of death squads in Baghdad, Najaf and Samawah. He confessed that he used the ambulances to transport weapons and wanted members of the Mahdi Militia,and to transport the kidnapped victims to theKalf-al-Sadda Area to kill them there. After those confessions and details the Americans formed a committee headed by Colonel Mark Martins,this committee transferred Al-Zamili and Hameed Al-Shammari, the Head Security Guard in the MOH, into an open court, saying that this trial would be more important than the trials of Saddam’s regime officials.
But, since the Iraqi judiciary is terribly corrupted, and the Mahdi Militia controls the courts, the judiciary and the police stations, all the accusations against Al-Zamili were dropped, and he was finally released after the witnesses failed to testify against his crimes. That’s how Al-Zamili was released after less than a year, although the Americans claimed that his trial would be the trial of the decade! Later it was discovered that his militia threatened the judges and witnesses, kidnapped their family members and threatened to rape and kill them, even when the Coalition Forces assured their safety !
The MOH under Al-Jaafari’s rule was controlled by the Sadr bloc.Dr.Ali Al-Shammari, the ex- Minister of Health was nominated by the Sadrists. But, after Dr.Al-Shammari found out about the crimes the Mahdi Militia against the Sunnis in the MOH, after he noticed that he was actually leading a Ministry of kidnapping and torture and a slaughter house, not a Ministry, he was threatened by the Sadrists when he dismissed many criminals who used to work in the MOH,as Ismael Haqqi,the Red Crescent President declared. Dr.Al-Shammari decided to seek help from the Americans, had loads of evidences and files that proved corruption and crimes committed by the Sadrists and the Mahdi Militia in the MOH. He also decided to leave his job because of those crimes.The accusations incriminated Al-Mahdi Militia and Muqtada Al-Sadr personally,crimes committed in every department related to the MOH. Unfortunately,the Americans also decided to ignore those evidences and closed the case. Were they themselves involved? Were these militias used as local stooges to carry outtheir counterinsurgency program? All the available evidence points in that direction.”
Mr. Ford, with due respect but you are a disinformant.
William Leo Herskowitz never used the name “Hershkowitz”. Your false spelling did result from a dumb journalist who wrote one if the first articles and who wasnt able to spell even his own name correct.
You can search Haaretz, Jerusalem Post, the Guardian and even NYT and they will all spell his name correct as Herskowitz. His whole family spells itself as Herskowitz. Even on his own fb site he spells Herskowitz. His father and his famous uncle Ira Herskowitz are spelled “Herskowitz”.
It is only you who copy a wrong spelling from a dull journalist that is blatantly wrong and false.
Documents on ancestry.com back to their time in Budapest are all spelling Herskowitz.
I do not know why you do not accept the truth and facts. Are you that stubborn to correct your error? I do not care what you are writing, but you accuse me and attack me of wrongdoing for the reason that i am simply presenting facts and links and the reality. Whenever you dont like the truth you are attacking that truth.
There is a family that spells in all their documents back into 1850 the name Herskowitz and they are using this name in science books (Ira Herskowitz), in several obituaries and on their own facebook pages (several dozens of different Herskowitz fb pages, all relatives approved by ancestry and obituaries).
I could care less about Herskowitz because he is in NO way related to Annecy and the murders. However, i care about deliberate disinformation from your side. Stay stubborn and deny the facts and the truth or better present your truth and facts, other than a news article of a single journalist who is so dull that he cannot even type his own name correct.
I welcome you to submit facts and links other than your fantasy. Without any kind of fact presenting i treat you like somebody who tells fairy tales to children. Unfortunately for you, i am no child and i do not believe in fairy tales any more, unless you would present us some kind of proof. Period!
http://www.facebook.com/william.herskowitz
Facebook page of the late william herskowitz.
@Bluebird 11:35 a.m.: You’ve done it again. “This content is currently unavailable”.
@ Trowbridge H. Ford 5 Mar, 2013 – 2:25 pm
“Surprise, surprise, Bluebird still cannot spell the suspect’s name, William Hershkovitz, correctly, and provides a link which is not available to resolve what he looked like when he too was murdered.”
It is why I referred to him as WH without spelling his name, to avoid that controversy. I will stay out of it. Did not find any other pics however the name is spelled.
Tim v
I just read the dowling case.
Question: what does cul-de-sac mean?
“Neighbours on the cul-de-sac ….”
Is cul-de-sac a British verb used for something special?
I am asking because Mr. Tuohy wrote in his description of how to access, that Le Chatox is on the “cul-de-sac”. Could Mr. Dowling have been a neighbour of Mr. Tuohy in Jarsy or does cul-de-sac mean something different in the UK as a special expression for e.g. “backyard”? Please verify.
Q
The william herskowitz fb page is still available. However, i believe that you must be logged in as a fb member in order to access it. It is unavailable for non fb members.
I checked and i could still access it.
http://www.facebook.com/william.herskowitz
@ Tim V 5 Mar, 2013 – 2:26 pm
“Anyone had a chance to look at this one that I referred to above.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/mar/04/devizes-shooting-family-concerned-mental-wellbeing
“What did he do for the Ministry of Defence? What information was he party to? What did he do in Australia (maybe just holiday?) Why did he start carrying a 12 bore or whatever around with him towards the end? Another case of “Not looking for anyone else. Case closed”.”
Original reports had the usual accolades for the victims, now the smears. Note it’s another “murder/suicide” by shotgun, almost in public view, like the Johnson’s up in Cromer. Johnson was also reported “depressed” before the event. Felix commented on this latest case at Icke.
“During the last three weeks Bill’s emotional and mental wellbeing have been in sharp decline and we are shocked and saddened by recent events.”
http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/news/towns/devizesheadlines/10265499.Families_of_man_and_woman_in_Devizes_shooting_tell_of_their_grief/?action=complain&cid=11353646
There are stories worldwide that police and other persons investigating Jimmy Savile type crimes often disappear or unexpectedly suicide. I couldn’t find a good list of names, but there are several in England (Elm House, etc.), Stan Maillaud in France and a district attorney in the US that disappeared when investigating Sandusky.
bluebird 5 Mar, 2013 – 3:58 pm
“Tim v : I just read the dowling case. Question: what does cul-de-sac mean?”
It is a dead-end road, but with a loop at the end big enough to drive around and reverse direction. With newer areas there are homes built around the outside of the loop, and people with kids like living on cul-de-sacs because there is little traffic and no high speed cars.
NR, have found only two alleged photos of William Hershkovitz.
Bluebird is a proven liar about everything regarding Hershkovitz, especially the spelling of his name.
Have found nearly 100,000 threads on google when his name is spelled correctly, and only a handfull when it is spelled Herskovitz.
Bluebird just wants to do everything he can to make sure we never get anywhere in determining who carried out the Lake Annecy massacre, and why.
NR
Thanks for the cul-de-sac explanation. I thought tgat it is some french word used in the UK for a special description.
NR
About the pedo suicides. Those are literally endless. Those who want to leak the truth suddenly commit suicide with no reason. There were suicides in the Dutroux case in Belgium, heart attacks that were later detected as poisoning in Belgium and a suicide of an honest police officer in Austrian the Kampusch case.
Here is a Belgian link:
http://www.wikileaks-forum.com/index.php?topic=15315.0
Here is the Austrian link, but in German only, however, I guess that you are German speaking.
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/fall-natascha-kampusch-das-erbe-des-oberst-kroell-a-818862.html
Mr Ford
I dont think that you had ever submitted only one kind of proof. I have dozens. You cannot even read! Omg!
His name is neither Hershkovitz nor Herskovitz.
His name is HERSKOWITZ!
COULD YOU READ IT NOW?
For the rest you accused me, it disqualifies you as a stubborn old man who cannot even read nor think. Forget about presenting any truth. I am keen on knowing and investigating the truth. You, however, present fairy tales. Please present only ine piece of proof! One! An obituary or an ancestry or some kind of document. Nada!
I did!
If his name were William Herskowitz, why are tens of thousands of reputable journalists, and Israeli police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld still calling him William Hershkovitz?
And even if it were Herskowitz, it makes no difference about what he really did, especially after he went to Israel last August.
You are just cultivating the confusion about his name in order to give him an alibi for what really happened – what Hershkovitz certainly doesn’t have despite your claim that he is completely innocent.
Where is your proof?
Mr. Ford
Where is your proof of the 10.000 william Hershkovitz who are – as you said – him?
Nada! One link you posted ages ago and that was the dumb journalist who could not even spell his own name.
Where are those thousand media reports?
Yes, indeed it is irrelevant how you spell him except that you confuse other board members with a wrong name.
And it is indeed orrelevant because you did not present one single proof nor one reason abput why he should have been the shooter. This is all your fantasy and a fairy tale only, unless you will present links and connections, but you fail doing this. Why? Probably because you’ve got no proof and no evidence and no link.
I got the suspicion that you plonk with your theory in order to destroy reasonable research and evidence that would be just on the correct track.
Finally, i have never lost a word about william herskowitz anywhrre. I am not qualified to tell stories. All i did was presenting his family, links and evidence and the correct name, including the names of his two Iranian Sephardim cousins.
Mr. Ford, present me some evidence other than your theory and i sm happy to search deeper for ypu. Other than that, Herskowitz is a waste of time in this topic as the connection obviously existsin your fantasy only.
Just more of your undocumented claims, empty denials, and continuing obfuscation which avoided your last stories about William Hershkovitz’s absolute innocence: “I could care less about Herskowitz because he is in NO way related to Annecy and the murders.”
Pray tell what is your evidence for such absolute conviction!
When you provide it,I shall stop my research into his critical involvement in what happened at Annecy.
Bluebird
Please dont feed the troll.
looking for links between the al Khoei, the al Saffar and the al Hilli families. Jawad Al Khoei (a) is the senior cleric at the North London Al Khoei mosque where Saad Al Hilli’s funeral took place. It was arranged by Ahmed Al Saffar (brother in law) and Zaid Al Hilli (brother). Two significant murders in Iraq were of Mohammed Taqi al Khoei, father of (a),(car crash 1994) and of Abdul Majid Al Khoel,father of (b),shot in Najaf, (2003) and left to die on the doorstep of Moqtada al Sadr. Both were sons of the late Grand Ayatollah al-Khoei predecessor of Grand Ayatollah Sistani Hayder sl Khoei (b)writes a Guardian blog. Balsam Al Hilli Xanthis, a female Iraqi politician is Saad’s cousin and Walid al Hilli is an MP in Iraq and leader of the Dawa party’s Baghdad office said to be another cousin of Saad al Hilli. Whilst looking at Iraq related sites the anti virus programme flagged up two warnings and today the anti virus programme was not running. The help desk warned against accessing arab related sites and suggests that hackers are trying to penetrate the anti virus firms software and may track those who look at these sites….. Cant help thinking the murky murderous world of the Sadrists and the Dawa party assassination squads come into this tangled web somewhere….
That makes sense, olifant. I found al Khoei on several occasions before, all related to this topic, but I didnt know where to put him and ignored this name. Thanks for giving some insight. I shall look a bit deeper into the al Khoei connections.
I did never find any proof for family relations of Walid (Waleed) al Hilli. Did you find any connections?
Al Khoei
Interesting connections. Who was CIA agent “Abu Ali”?
Both Hussein al Hilli and Ali al Saffar are connected with Haydar al Khoei:
http://fr.linkedin.com/pub/ali-al-saffar/28/773/632
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/hayder-al-khoei/29/697/481
Interesting facts about Iraq and the al Khoei assassination. Well, when the Hillis were close supporters of al Khoei …. But then, why Saad but not Zaid and Balsham?
Recommend to read the below to understand backgrounds. Najaf makes sense because Hashim and Kadhim al Hilli grew up and they studied in Najaf.
http://www.jafariyanews.com/articles/2k7/SMKhoei_untoldstory.htm
http://www.meforum.org/655/understanding-muqtada-al-sadr